Hi,
My Samsung S8 since last upgrade to Oreo was a complete disaster. Just to be clear battery life during Android Nougat was good and it was the first thing ive noticed that samsung completely stepped up their game since their battery disaster on their certain phone model. Battery life would run at least from a day to 2 before recharging. Ive noticed there are other threads similar to these so i knew im not the only one affected, my colleagues also experience similar issues since upgrading to oreo so this is not something isolated to my s8 phone.
Few key points that ive noticed since upgrading to oreo:
1. Going to settings then battery usage. Screen would be the foremost battery hog at 26%, followed by Android System at 13%, then Device Idle at 9-8%. Cell Standby and Android OS remains normal.
2. Go to Settings then App. Ive noticed by checking each one of the apps that beaming services, device maintenance, settings, gear vr services were among the ones that took up most of the battery usage this is excluding system apps like AASAservice, etc.
3. Go to settings then data usage. The Android OS is sending or receiving 100MB of data (still counting). I wanted to know what are these data that is worth 100MB.
4. Device easily gets hot even light use of facebook, ig or 7 minutes of youtube video.
5. It sometimes restart, this is rare but ive noticed it since fingerprint cannot be used initially when there's a restart.
Now what ive done so far:
1. Cleared partition cache by holding bixby btn, volume up and power.
2. Disabling unused apps, even certain bixby services, etc.
3. Went to developer option and disable always on mobile data.
4. Factory reset device hoping it would go back to nougat but it did not. With a mint condition reset, it still drain too much battery. (without any third part apps or data restore)
5. Called up samsung customer service but was told to go to service center. Went to service center they check the ASOC of battery (which i think is unrelated) and according to them reprogram oreo. which did not help. wasted my time.
Now what is the implication?
1. I need to charge my phone at LEAST twice a day.
2. It heats up the phone which would definitely have negative impact on the longevity of this device one way or another.
3. It drains too much battery, with the amount of charge discharge multiplied at least by 2, this will literally messed up the battery life in the long run.
4. Im currently using 2 phones and my samsung s5 which is a 4 year old phone had better battery life. lol. Since in just 3 hours it consume almost 40% of battery.
There are tons of related post like these on different forums and on reddit but i surmise i should dig more on this problem before writing a more concrete post. At this point, i can only see 2 remaining options: 1. There is a step online that would revert the OS back to nougat but this would involved third party apps like odin, there are risk involved like phone brick, etc. Im not sure if it will void the warranty. OR i can just wait for a patch from samsung.
Now SAMSUNG NEED TO FIX THIS ASAP or provide us a way to revert back to nougat. With the s9 just available at the market, this terrible oreo release could not come at better time. I know there are several issues like the battery issues with their previous note model and Apples intentionally slowing down their phone, Samsung got to fix this fast before this issue becomes a blowout and many people will start to notice.
There are several threads about this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/to-to-fix-battery-drainoreo-t3771716
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/oreo-battery-life-t3749459
On what version of Oreo are you? Since CRC7 batterylife is great.
Android 8.0.0
on SM-G950FD
update_king said:
Android 8.0.0
on SM-G950FD
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What security patch do you have and what can you see under "Baseband"? Everything will be fine with latest March security Patch and CRC7 Baseband. Just be patient, if you do not have it, yet.
Marvinho+ said:
What security patch do you have and what can you see under "Baseband"? Everything will be fine with latest March security Patch and CRC7 Baseband. Just be patient, if you do not have it, yet.
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I have the same issue but thanks for the info as I'm still on the February security patch
I have to agree CRC7 shows good improvement with battery life
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What security patch do you have and what can you see under "Baseband"? Everything will be fine with latest March security Patch and CRC7 Baseband. Just be patient, if you do not have it, yet.
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Its February Security Patch Level
Man, i´m totaly on same boat!
In CRC7, i'm experiencing terrible battery life. Max 2.00 to 2.30 Screen on time in one charge. Now, for the first time, i have to recharge my phone befoure dinner.
Wifi , Bluetooth, Aod On, location history Off.
It´s the worst experience on any phone that i had in the past.
Like you, already disabled some apps, clear cache and already done a fresh install. Nothing works, nothing improved my battery.
I´m thinking send it to warranty, but it´s probaly not worth the time...
Maybe it´s time to forget about Samsung phone and move on. P20, or even iPhone X...
After updating to OREO and updating all galaxy apps, "beaming service" was draining my battery (67% of the battery actually). After uninstalling the updates on beaming service, the phone seems fine now. Maybe uninstalling the updates of which apps are draining the battery could help you guys as well.
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After updating to OREO and updating all galaxy apps, "beaming service" was draining my battery (67% of the battery actually). After uninstalling the updates on beaming service, the phone seems fine now. Maybe uninstalling the updates of which apps are draining the battery could help you guys as well.
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ive tried that before but after fresh install. beaming service could no longer be disabled, nor its updates uninstalled.
Besides other apps are also draining battery like AASAservice, settings, device maintenance, etc.
I received an update yesterday for the CRC7 March security patch.
Battery life aint any better
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ive tried that before but after fresh install. beaming service could no longer be disabled, nor its updates uninstalled.
Besides other apps are also draining battery like AASAservice, settings, device maintenance, etc.
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You're right, that can't be disabled but I was simply able to uninstall the updates by clicking three dots top-right corner of app info screen. I've the latest version CRC7 on the phone by the way.
Hello !
I've been s8 for three months and I've never had any particular problems, I've upgraded to CRC7 (second update of Oreo) and I've already got twice the phone with a flat battery:
last week in the morning I found it at 1% from 35% the night before (during the night only the gsm network was active, everything else off); when in doubt I did a factory data reset by installing only minimal applications (FB, whatsup and little else) and I installed the Accubattery application to monitor the battery.
Last night put away (active gsm only) at 65% of residual charge and this morning after 10 hours it was 5%: 60% of charge consumed in one night.
Android does not report any abnormal consumption of any application .... it seems an anomalous battery drain
I enclose battery data screenshots; is not that the new Oreo update is buggy? or could the battery or the phone power circuit or the radio part that consume excessively might have a problem? Before bringing it to service I wanted your opinion and in case I wanted to try to put back the CRB7 version of Oreo .... how do I do it? do I lose the guarantee in this case?
https://imgur.com/a/tmEH5
i'vre tried with beaming service but clicking three dots top-right corner of app info screen not available for this app : three dots top-right corner are for all the apps
Do you have a drain simillar to mine ? Help me please !!
timo74 said:
Hello !
I've been s8 for three months and I've never had any particular problems, I've upgraded to CRC7 (second update of Oreo) and I've already got twice the phone with a flat battery:
last week in the morning I found it at 1% from 35% the night before (during the night only the gsm network was active, everything else off); when in doubt I did a factory data reset by installing only minimal applications (FB, whatsup and little else) and I installed the Accubattery application to monitor the battery.
Last night put away (active gsm only) at 65% of residual charge and this morning after 10 hours it was 5%: 60% of charge consumed in one night.
Android does not report any abnormal consumption of any application .... it seems an anomalous battery drain
I enclose battery data screenshots; is not that the new Oreo update is buggy? or could the battery or the phone power circuit or the radio part that consume excessively might have a problem? Before bringing it to service I wanted your opinion and in case I wanted to try to put back the CRB7 version of Oreo .... how do I do it? do I lose the guarantee in this case?
i'vre tried with beaming service but clicking three dots top-right corner of app info screen not available for this app : three dots top-right corner are for all the apps
Do you have a drain simillar to mine ? Help me please !!
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I have the exact same problem as you and many others. I have tried various things to solve it and I concluded on that the modem firmware has a serious bug . airplane mode consumes more battery than on cellular. To make sure we are talking about the same thing please try removing your SIM card and let it all night . By the morning you have to be -2% of the battery . With the SIM inside now you have to drain 15-20% . If thats the case for you , you make sure that its not a faulty device and there is no drain from your setup (like an application draining etc .. in this case factory reset should fix it).
Cinfirm your findings and lets hope they will release update soon.
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I have the exact same problem as you and many others. I have tried various things to solve it and I concluded on that the modem firmware has a serious bug . airplane mode consumes more battery than on cellular. To make sure we are talking about the same thing please try removing your SIM card and let it all night . By the morning you have to be -2% of the battery . With the SIM inside now you have to drain 15-20% . If thats the case for you , you make sure that its not a faulty device and there is no drain from your setup (like an application draining etc .. in this case factory reset should fix it).
Cinfirm your findings and lets hope they will release update soon.
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he doesn't do it every night, but random : in a week it happened twice
It's not in airplane mode, modem is switched on only for phone line (LTE off) ; I already tried two factory reset
Yours is affected only in airplane mode ?
Tonight , my s8 have to drain 60 % in 9 hours !
timo74 said:
he doesn't do it every night, but random : in a week it happened twice
It's not in airplane mode, modem is switched on only for phone line (LTE off) ; I already tried two factory reset
Yours is affected only in airplane mode ?
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It drains in general but while in cellular it's difficult to distinguish if it's a bug or bad signal . Each ones phone may consume different amounts of energy depending on coverage etc. But in airplane mode you can be sure it's a bug because antenna transmission should be off and therefore not consuming energy . Just try as I said just to be sure we have the same issue . One night with airplane mode and SIM card in and another night airplane without SIM. You should see great difference .
Vagosd said:
I have the exact same problem as you and many others. I have tried various things to solve it and I concluded on that the modem firmware has a serious bug . airplane mode consumes more battery than on cellular. To make sure we are talking about the same thing please try removing your SIM card and let it all night . By the morning you have to be -2% of the battery . With the SIM inside now you have to drain 15-20% . If thats the case for you , you make sure that its not a faulty device and there is no drain from your setup (like an application draining etc .. in this case factory reset should fix it).
Cinfirm your findings and lets hope they will release update soon.
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Tonight ( gsm on ) have no drain : 0,3 % / h. ( 3 % in 10 hours ).
if it is faulty the battery should always do it?
Did you try to see if it drains, leaving the radio part active?
timo74 said:
Tonight ( gsm on ) have no drain : 0,3 % / h. ( 3 % in 10 hours ).
if it is faulty the battery should always do it?
Did you try to see if it drains, leaving the radio part active?
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This will not help determine the bug because as I told you it's signal dependant. It's 3% in 10 hours because you probably had good signal . Else it could be more and even if you contact a service they will say it's not a bug but the signal . Anyway if you were with data on and 4g seems more than fine to me . Now if you try this night airplane mode for 10 hours it could drop 15-20% ... is this reasonable ?
Vagosd said:
This will not help determine the bug because as I told you it's signal dependant. It's 3% in 10 hours because you probably had good signal . Else it could be more and even if you contact a service they will say it's not a bug but the signal . Anyway if you were with data on and 4g seems more than fine to me . Now if you try this night airplane mode for 10 hours it could drop 15-20% ... is this reasonable ?
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in airplane mode is a bug, but a 60% night-time consumption with active gsm?
0.3% / h. the device was in the same position the night before when it consumed 60% in 9 hours
timo74 said:
in airplane mode is a bug, but a 60% night-time consumption with active gsm?
0.3% / h. the device was in the same position the night before when it consumed 60% in 9 hours
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Your case seems more like a random application wakelock . Did you do a reboot between the 2 nights?
To distinguish better the cause of the drain , when you see an abnormal consumption try removing your SIM card for a while . If this fix the drain it's the buggy modem/radio firmware ...
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What runs under "Phone Idle" on the V20. It's been the largest battery consumer for the last week of use that I've noticed. My wife's V20 is the same and I had my brother check his and his wife's V20.
I'm only asking because I'm not see great battery life like other have been reporting. I don't have live wallpaper, have only two widgets on the home screen. GPS is set to battery save, screen is set to auto but that doesn't even come close to chewing up the battery.
Sadly I feel like I'm still using my old 2.5 year G3 where it'll need a charge mid way through the day.
VDoubleUVR6 said:
What runs under "Phone Idle" on the V20. It's been the largest battery consumer for the last week of use that I've noticed. My wife's V20 is the same and I had my brother check his and his wife's V20.
I'm only asking because I'm not see great battery life like other have been reporting. I don't have live wallpaper, have only two widgets on the home screen. GPS is set to battery save, screen is set to auto but that doesn't even come close to chewing up the battery.
Sadly I feel like I'm still using my old 2.5 year G3 where it'll need a charge mid way through the day.
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Factory reset it
czerdrill said:
Factory reset it
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Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
VDoubleUVR6 said:
Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
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I agree with you. Although my phone is just beyond a week old and does have all my apps installed, a factory reset can't be the solution here. This is the typical "I don't know how to fix this" answer always given by manufacturers and carriers.
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In the roughly 3 weeks I've had my V20 I've only seen this once where phone idle was higher than Screen. I started looking thru all running apps for 'keep awake' time being high and noticed Android OS had keep awake of over 2 hours when it's normally less than an hour after a full day use. I power cycled the phone and it stopped.
The weird thing was Android OS didn't show high battery usage even though something was triggering keep awake. Looks like the keep awake was causing phone idle to be high.
I'd look at everything in your battery usage to see if you have any high keep awake times.
VDoubleUVR6 said:
Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
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Sorry did not mean to be short in my response. When you set up your phone did you restore it from another phone using the nfc bump thing? I did the same and my phone battery was the same way. Wouldn't last even half a day. After i factory reset and set everything up manually i get 18+ hrs with 7 hrs screen on time sometimes.
If this situation doesn't apply to you then maybe a reset won't help. But you have to understand your situation isn't normal.
Make sure Google now features are all turned off and not running in the background.
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In the roughly 3 weeks I've had my V20 I've only seen this once where phone idle was higher than Screen. I started looking thru all running apps for 'keep awake' time being high and noticed Android OS had keep awake of over 2 hours when it's normally less than an hour after a full day use. I power cycled the phone and it stopped.
The weird thing was Android OS didn't show high battery usage even though something was triggering keep awake. Looks like the keep awake was causing phone idle to be high.
I'd look at everything in your battery usage to see if you have any high keep awake times.
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I'll have to go through the apps one by one like I did previously on my G3 and see. Now within the battery stats there is only a handful of apps like hangout, play music, chrome and camera. The rest is OS related so that's why I was curious what ran under Phone Idle.
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Sorry did not mean to be short in my response. When you set up your phone did you restore it from another phone using the nfc bump thing? I did the same and my phone battery was the same way. Wouldn't last even half a day. After i factory reset and set everything up manually i get 18+ hrs with 7 hrs screen on time sometimes.
If this situation doesn't apply to you then maybe a reset won't help. But you have to understand your situation isn't normal.
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No and sadly I was looking for that feature a week ago but couldn't find it so I had to individually install most of my apps I had on my previous phone...made for a long night along with the additional emails and configuration or icons and such.
I'll keep digging away at the phone...I really want to like this phone ?
Has there been a definitive resolution to "phone idle" battery drain? I just got a V20 2 weeks ago on sale for $360 and its a fantastic upgrade over the One+1 I've been rockin all these years, but I'm also suffering from mediocre life due to whatever phone idle is. Some forums (for other phones) say phone idle is related to your wireless signal. I'm still with the same carrier and frequenting the same locations and had no such battery drain with that old One+.
i finally discovered whats was goin on with me..
i had the same issue..
phone idle was topping my battery usage list
it turns google plays have this "locationmanager service " and locationwhatever" that kills your battery over wifi even with location button off
Go to locations/ 3 dots in top right corner/ turn off WiFi scan. See if that helps.
My phone has been suffering from poor battery life for quite some time now, here are the screenshots, Android OS has been this high on almost all battery cycles.
I disabled wifi scanning as suggested above and will watch the performance, does the community have any other inputs to fix this? View attachment 4212978View attachment 4212979
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Phone idle is always the biggest battery draw on my phone too. I have minimal apps too. No Facebook or similar types of apps. I'm on a Verizon V20 stock with the latest security update. Is this normal V20 behavior to have phone idle consume more battery than everything else?
how about doze mode , isnt that meant to help with this sort of problem ? ( my phone is currently on a ship )
Any update. İ have the same problem
andreqf said:
i finally discovered whats was goin on with me..
i had the same issue..
phone idle was topping my battery usage list
it turns google plays have this "locationmanager service " and locationwhatever" that kills your battery over wifi even with location button off
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So what did you do?
Would also be grateful if anyone shared a solution.
I specifically have a SIM-unlocked Sprint model (LS997) which am using in Europe with another carrier.
Using it in LTE preferred mode drains about 10-15% overnight.
Using it in WCDMA preferred mode drains up to 5% per night (yes, wifi and cellular data OFF and many apps greenified) . So I'm really interested in how this can be fixed and achieve 0% battery drain across several hours.
Or maybe it's SIM-unlocked Sprint ROM related?? I can't root my phone since it has the Feb 2017 patch and is a ZV6.
I suspect rooting it and using another ROM would solve this + the annoying issue of not being able to send images via FB Messenger and Viber while on cellular data (I imagine the Sprint guys placed some kind of restriction to deny media transfer for these apps when using cellular data).
I have noticed this too.. wondered why "phone idle" takes most battery... any suggestions would be great!
I am also curious about the solution. Phone Idle is at top. Even without SIM card. 30% drains during a night (everything is disabled, but no airplane mode is on). I tried factory reset, reinstall older ROM, replace battery, use no app but still sucks.
hi
my v20 phone battery draining was about 1% per hour before (about 7% totally ) and recently increased to 2% during sleeping time overnight. (draining 15% overnight in sleeping state)
it seems that during day either performance off battery is decreased.(about 5h with wifi and screen on usage)
Fast charging while second screen is On , is slower than when it is off therefore when second screen is Off , fast charging goes better . exactly , first 30 mins fast charging makes about 40% battery charge(instead of 50%) and after 60 min leads to 85% and full charging taking place after about 100 min instead of 80 mins.
another important thing is that sometimes shades have been seen on the LCD that many users have complained about it.
phone information is :
Android security patch level: September 1, 2017
BASEBAND : MPSS.TH.2.0.1.c3-00045-M8996FAAAANAZM-1
KERNEL : 3.18.31
BUILD NUMBER : NRD90M
SOFTWARE VERSION : V10g-AME-XX
MODEL NUMBER : LG-H990ds
my actions are as follows :
phone is factory reseted. No third party apps is installed. [especially social media apps.]
battery calibration steps for not rooted phones is taken place.(turning off the phone and charging several times repeatedly).
testing battery drain in safe mode in done and didn't change results
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
turn off WiFi being On during screen is Off.
turn off auto sync, NFC, GPS etc.
not using auto brightness.
not using comfort view .
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
second screen is off during test overnight. (either with second screen is ON with faced down to lower brightness in other day test )
phone is in Air Plane Mode and all data services is off.
system apps like Google services and Play and Assistance is limited by permissions.
following are some advanced battery drain overnight figures of my phone for more analyzing.
any help with this issue is appreciated.
recently i encountered a lot of battery drain even without using my phone ( galaxy s8 dual sim ) i noticed that cell standby is using a lot of battery sometimes as much as if not greater than the screen it self which is weird because my signal is ok i dont think ian losing signal
anybody having this problem ??
alaa96 said:
recently i encountered a lot of battery drain even without using my phone ( galaxy s8 dual sim ) i noticed that cell standby is using a lot of battery sometimes as much as if not greater than the screen it self which is weird because my signal is ok i dont think ian losing signal
anybody having this problem ??
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The image shows the phone was without signal for some time which was about 32% and it will consume power. Don't know the reason behind this, but if phone really had no signal for a long time, then be in another place where there is a good signal and test there. I have seen few times with my old Moto X, that sometimes after using internet via mobile network(without wifi), the connecting would somehow still be open and it would consume battery and the way to fix this, I had to restart the phone.
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The image shows the phone was without signal for some time which was about 32% and it will consume power. Don't know the reason behind this, but if phone really had no signal for a long time, then be in another place where there is a good signal and test there. I have seen few times with my old Moto X, that sometimes after using internet via mobile network(without wifi), the connecting would somehow still be open and it would consume battery and the way to fix this, I had to restart the phone.
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this is ridiculous ! i never had an issue like this with any of my older phones
best bet do a factory reset and see if it still persists
Same happens to me too. Yesterday I went outside my house and traveling in the city - my battery went from 100% to 43% in 6h40min. I had SOT only 1h. I am wondering if something related to GPS is killing the battery as it always drain very fast if i am moving - but in the other hand it seems that phone radio is draining also the battery a lot. Any advices what could I do?
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best bet do a factory reset and see if it still persists
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i already did it but no good i think this problem happened after an update
nixun said:
Same happens to me too. Yesterday I went outside my house and traveling in the city - my battery went from 100% to 43% in 6h40min. I had SOT only 1h. I am wondering if something related to GPS is killing the battery as it always drain very fast if i am moving - but in the other hand it seems that phone radio is draining also the battery a lot. Any advices what could I do?
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cell standby is not related to gps and location services i dont think so at least iam pretty sure it is mainly phone network related
Cell standby drains too much battery
I'm using Galaxy S8 Exynos Version (Dual Sim). Facing this cell standby extreme battery drain issue recently. I have tried several options like- reset network settings, restart / power off-on, factory reset and wipe cache partition to see if the problem goes away or not. These things can solve the problem only for 2-3 days. Then after that same cell standby battery drain occurs again. The only thing left is to hard reset. But I don't think this will solve the problem either. These are not the permanent solution. When I first got the phone this problem was not there. For the last 2-3 weeks I have been facing this issue and it is bothering me a lot coz my battery drains too much even when i'm not using my phone. I really need a solid solution for this. Can anybody help? And I hope Samsung will address this issue and solve it asap.
I think cell standby is the worst problem in the S8. It really kills battery. It can make your phone drop 2% per hour.
Same issue here. Didn't have this issue before the latest two updates. Before I had 6-7 SoT and now barely 2-3 hours.
yes, this issue was not pronounced before the latest updates (one or two as mentioned)
Same thing here. After the last update there is a battery problem with standby. Hope they fix it with next release.
same with my s8+ dual exynos
Hello all,
So I know there's various discussions all over the web about the Galaxy s10 and battery issues on both Snapdragon and Exynos variants. It seems people are experiencing a wide margin of difference in avg battery life..
So here's my situation. My wife and I both have S10+'s through AT&T. We got them the first week they came out. I looked though the forums and performed several battery optimization tweaks on both phones and since then the battery life has been really impressive... No complaints really. Until this last week.
We both recieved the March security patch and fingerprint scanner fix about a week ago. My wife's phone seems unchanged by this. Everything working as expected. My phone however has been draining battery MUCH faster both in SOT and standby time. I'm losing 2-3x more battery % overnight. In the last 20 mins of just reading through threads on the XDA forum app, I've lost about 10% battery. I'm sitting in the dark with my screen brightness very low too. (down another 5% since I started typing this!)
My wife and I have very similar phone habits. Since both our phones are optimized identically, and we used most of the same apps a play the same games, I started looking through everything different I've done in my phone since this problem started. I installed Adhell3, which seems to be setup properly and working. Mike B. from Adhell's Discord assured me that Adhell shouldn't be draining my battery. I'm mostly using it just to remove a bunch of basic bloatware and block some ads.
The update seems to have worked fine otherwise. My FP scanner is much better now, but something is definitely wrong. I've tried wiping the partition cache afterwards. I've tracked down others experiencing issues after this particular update, but cant seem to find a way to fix this problem yet. I saw something about Deep Sleep problems after the update when someone uses a VOIP service like Skype or WhatsApp, but I dont use anything like that. I can't even find a good tool to use to see more information about my battery usage, as the built-in battery monitor lacks a good deal of information. CPUspy doesn't work on my version.
If anyone has any ideas of what could be the culprit, what else I could try, or what tools I could use to try and track down what exactly is causing this sudden increase in drain, I'd really appreciate it.
Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
clear cache helped a lot of people
Update 1
Reset all phone settings to factory. Don't do full factory reset, just all the settings, fixed my post update battery drain issues
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Hrrm. It seems I don't have ASBA or ASCA, I have ASD3. The March update.
I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
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I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
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Well that seems rather strange to be honest, you can eliminate possibilities by just testing and see what works. Last possibility can be that factory resetting and installing all new, but then again, it could be that it solves your issues or not. You should be having rather horizontal lines to prove your phone is truly going into deep sleep in my opinion, but also you can check with CPU Spy
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Try to log too safe mode and check the battery drain
If stopped then it was from an application that have a problem
If not I think it might be a system app or something
So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
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So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
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You can look at this thread and see if you can install the app without being root or not
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
aromerodaniel said:
Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
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10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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I have done it before, I can look for the image, if you would like. That was a full day of wifi actually.
paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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Here is the pic
Also you can look at this thread
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You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
da1e8 said:
You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
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You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
aromerodaniel said:
You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
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I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
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I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
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Then I don't what you can do, either do a factory reset and so not restore anything from backups and see if that works. I usually set my phone that way, clean no restoration from any backup all apps are installed manually, and I do not even use adhell to disable most of Samsung crap apps and services.
Has anyone any ideas, if I turn my x727 off the battery will drain to zero in a few hours. If I just set to airplane mode battery is good for three or four days. Accubattery shows battery in low nineties for remaining capacity. Currently using AICP pie ROM but also did this on lineage and AEX ROMs. I don't even know what to check as phone is off. Any help appreciated.
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Has anyone any ideas, if I turn my x727 off the battery will drain to zero in a few hours. If I just set to airplane mode battery is good for three or four days. Accubattery shows battery in low nineties for remaining capacity. Currently using AICP pie ROM but also did this on lineage and AEX ROMs. I don't even know what to check as phone is off. Any help appreciated.
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Only thing I can think of in order to discard some things are:
When did you notice this? after some modding? Have you flashed the recomended firmware for your device from the first post of AICP thread?
Then just for test:
While the device is off, connect the charger to see if the charging screen appears.
Then power on and once in AICP reboot to TWRP and from there just power off with TWRP menu, wait few hours, power on and see if there were battery drain while off.
Regards.
Thanks, it has done it for about one year, kind of thought about powering down from twrp. Have just been hitting airplane mode instead of powering down all this time. Firmware is correct. I thought something must be hanging. Appreciate the insight.
Just tried the shutdown from twrp. Battery went from 45 to 16 in one hour of shutdown. I am befuddled.
hello i have the same problem. i bought Lex722 as used one
i installed fresh Lineage OS.
when phone is off it drains in about 1-2 days down.
So i replaced the Battery with a new Battery. But... it get also down.. to i think its an hardware problem
one more thing: i charged from 0-90% . the Battery gets really hot. (Original charger). so maybe something with charging unit in the phone not ok
I have an X722 and I have a similar problem, after changing the display I have some problems like the one you mentioned, battery drain in stand by and my smartphone charging above 80% it shuts down and starts draining the battery, has anyone tried Qfil to try to solve this problem? or is it a hardware thing?
sorry if my English looks bad I'm using a translator
Daniel Doughlas said:
I have an X722 and I have a similar problem, after changing the display I have some problems like the one you mentioned, battery drain in stand by and my smartphone charging above 80% it shuts down and starts draining the battery, has anyone tried Qfil to try to solve this problem? or is it a hardware thing?
sorry if my English looks bad I'm using a translator
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I think I had something hanging and the phone not really shutting itself off completely. Did a wipe when doing an update and it fixed itself.
I have similar problem too, have X722, started somewhere in summer, spring where basically discharged by 10-20% daily when not using..
I always update to latest AICP. Just replaced battery today and still seems there is a small drain, charged to 100% for the first time, 2 minutes of usage and already down by 3%.
This may or may not help. You need to track down all the hogs. These were two that caused me endless issues. I tried disabling backup by switching it off and this and that... until going full rambo on Google.
Google Backup Transport and Backup Framework wuv to run amuck even with screen off.
I finally package block them and firewall blocked them. Clearing their data, as well as Goggle Play Services* and system/residual data caches if they act up.
Now it's stopped.
>1%@hr battery drain with AOD always on.
AT&T Note 10+ Pie
*enabled as needed for gmail, gmaps, playstore.
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Google Backup Transport and Backup Framework wuv to run amuck even with screen off.
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Can I successfully disable them by just disabling their services in MyAndroidTools? (just checked and i already had them disabled)
I also have Magisk module - Universal GMS Doze.
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Can I successfully disable them by just disabling their services in MyAndroidTools?
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Yeah but portions* will still run in the background just like the malware it is.
Hence the firewall and the frequent data deletes.
Maybe 10 or 11 is better behaved but it doesn't seem that way from what I'm reading... they look worse than Pie. With unrooted phones they even block more user diagnostic tools than Pie, perfect. Pretty sure my 10+ will run on Pie for its whole service life because Google dropped the ball.
Fortunately Pie is a good OS... add to that AT&T and their partner Samsung are notorious for device killing near update end cycle firmware.
Not updating is simply an act of device self preservation.
*hopefully you can pull these weeds out better than I can on an unrooted device.
Each user/device is different though, good luck
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Lite's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
When i go to sleep and put my galaxy note 10 lite on the table at the morning when i wake up i have lost 18% of battery. I keep only the wifi on and it is full bars. No apps are draining the battery on the background and have it on mute and only s pen air and auto rotate are turned on. I do not know what the problem is. Any advices please?
Hi, same for me all is disabled except the bluethoot and the battery loses between 30 and 40% per 24 hours and it goes well into prolonged sleep. Sorry about my English.
Battery Drain Problem Solved
PeshMesh said:
When i go to sleep and put my galaxy note 10 lite on the table at the morning when i wake up i have lost 18% of battery. I keep only the wifi on and it is full bars. No apps are draining the battery on the background and have it on mute and only s pen air and auto rotate are turned on. I do not know what the problem is. Any advices please?
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I had the same issue. I did a reset within 5 days of buying, and it does not have the battery drain issue anymore.
I made sure to switch off all the (optional) services at the fresh boot of the device. Most importantly, do not switch on the customisation service. It is the biggest battery drainer and quite a useless feature if I must say.
Moreover, do not switch on the inbuilt antivirus software in the device status menu (present with the battery stats and all). It keeps scanning needlessly thus draining the battery.
Make a backup using the Samsung account (especially your Notes and contacts) and reset your phone. It helped me and hope it helps you and anybody who encounters the battery drain issue.
The reset didn't fix anything for me, I noticed that if I move the sim card the consumption is minimal but as soon as I reinstall it it's about thirty percent per day with almost no use of the phone.
mario1959 said:
The reset didn't fix anything for me, I noticed that if I move the sim card the consumption is minimal but as soon as I reinstall it it's about thirty percent per day with almost no use of the phone.
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Did you switch off the Customisation service, because it uploads your call data and other private data in the background.
Try switching off sync (button in the status bar). It should help pinpoint the issue.
One more way would be to go into safe mode and see if the battery drainer is the system or any app.
Everything is deactivated, there is only normal consumption in airplane mode.
I have already reflash the rom to start again on a clean basis without effect.
thanks
neerut said:
I had the same issue. I did a reset within 5 days of buying, and it does not have the battery drain issue anymore.
I made sure to switch off all the (optional) services at the fresh boot of the device. Most importantly, do not switch on the customisation service. It is the biggest battery drainer and quite a useless feature if I must say.
Moreover, do not switch on the inbuilt antivirus software in the device status menu (present with the battery stats and all). It keeps scanning needlessly thus draining the battery.
Make a backup using the Samsung account (especially your Notes and contacts) and reset your phone. It helped me and hope it helps you and anybody who encounters the battery drain issue.
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hey i did everything u said last night and together with the july software update i feel like battery consumption went down a lot. thanks mate
Can I ask for specific functions?
Great battery life. No complaints here
I never had any issues with my battery life. I don't give it much down time but when I do very little battery drains at all. I can use it heavily all day and I usually only have to charge it once a day at most and that's using apps like flstudio mobile which would drain my battery in two hours at most with any other phone I've used before, galaxy s5 and note 4 specifically and the s5 had a custom rom that managed battery life quite well. If you're having battery issues you may want to do a reset or check your power settings. I always keep power saving mode on myself which makes a big difference. Also I don't keep things like Bluetooth, scan for nearby devices or nfc on and my location services are usually off or on low accuracy mode. But yeah, great phone with awesome battery life!
One more thing I noticed. When you press and hold AutoSync in notifications panel, go to Google account. Open the syncing items. Press the drop down menu (3 dots) on the top right. If it says Cancel Sync, press it. It initially got stuck on my phone and was the biggest culprit. Secondly, open the Samsung Cloud sync settings and check for the same issue of sync being stuck on Cancel Sync. You could check for other accounts as well.
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PeshMesh said:
hey i did everything u said last night and together with the july software update i feel like battery consumption went down a lot. thanks mate
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Glad to hear that
I have disabled more than 100 applications (system, samsung, bloatware, etc) via ADB AppControl and now I am losing 2% overnight only.
normally i got this problem when i restore backup from another samsung phone.
if you restore your settings try to wipe clean your phone and set it up as a new normally this solution solve my battery drain
Another Solution
If the standby battery drain (most probably with WiFi ON) problem still persists, go to an authorized Samsung Care Centre and get the software installed by them. It will iron out any bugs that might have crept in during original installation. As it stays official, so it's worth a try.
As I said above, it is when I put the SIM card that I have my problem of discharge, I do not think that Samsung will be able to do more than what I have already tried ! Unfortunately, I dropped the phone, there is a knock in the chassis, so the warranty is dead.
@ parvizchitsaz, I knew the trick, it didn't solve my problem!
Please excuse my poor English.
With my G6 Play, if I charged it to 100% and left it on at night it would be dead in the morning.
With my Note 10 Lite, if I charged it to 100% and left it on at night, when I wake up it might be at like...90%? The battery life is bananas (well compared to the the G6 Play anyway). I actually can't think of the last time I owned a phone and it wasn't dead in the morning. Maybe my S4?
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With my G6 Play, if I charged it to 100% and left it on at night it would be dead in the morning.
With my Note 10 Lite, if I charged it to 100% and left it on at night, when I wake up it might be at like...90%? The battery life is bananas (well compared to the the G6 Play anyway). I actually can't think of the last time I owned a phone and it wasn't dead in the morning. Maybe my S4?
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You, my friend, have been coned multiple times or you just leave your porn running in the background when you go to sleep. No smartphone ever dies when you wake up in the morning with 100% battery in the night unless you have been sleeping for 20 days.
yusufjee said:
You, my friend, have been conned multiple times or you just leave your porn running in the background when you go to sleep. No smartphone ever dies when you wake up in the morning with 100% battery in the night unless you have been sleeping for 20 days.
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LOL To be fair, this is the first flagship-esque phone I've had since the S4. Before I've had cheapos: two ZTEs, a Huawei, and that G6 Play. All way under $100, in fact the G6 Play was $35 cause they (Target) were trying to get rid of them to make way for the G7/G7 Plays and the G6/G6 Plays weren't moving.
So a full night of sleep (8 hours) if my phone wasn't plugged in...dead. Nothing running in the background except the alarm and data. I only ever get phones that can be rooted so updates in the background weren't possible (and I always disable auto-update in the Play store).
For now: during sleep time 7-8 hours goes down approx. 6-7%