Suggestion on latest update - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

My Moto G4 Plus is currently running on build# NPJS25.93-14-13 and there is an update available with build# NPJS25.93-14-15(this contains the security patch update to Feb 1 and fix for KRACK vulnerability).
I've also installed TWRP (64-bit version, by tywinlanister).
Is it okay to update my Moto G4 Plus? Will it cause bootloop or hardbrick issues?

n_sameem said:
My Moto G4 Plus is currently running on build# NPJS25.93-14-13 and there is an update available with build# NPJS25.93-14-15(this contains the security patch update to Feb 1 and fix for KRACK vulnerability).
I've also installed TWRP (64-bit version, by tywinlanister).
Is it okay to update my Moto G4 Plus? Will it cause bootloop or hardbrick issues?
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OTA updates gets successfully installed only if everything on device is stock and unmodified.
Since you have custom recovery, it will fail by recovery side.
Also on startup screen of TWRP for first time if you have allowed modification, this may have modified system, so it will fail at many points.
Best thing you can do is flash complete fastboot stock ROM then take available updates..

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Need Serious Help Regarding Moto G4 Plus Official Nogut Update...

At first I updated my Moto G4 plus to Nougat soak test 1(Octobar Security Patch)...Then I unlocked my bootloader & Downgraded to stock Marshmellow...Bt now I am not getting any Official Ota & unable to flash the official Nougat zip file using stock recovery...(Status 7 Error...Unknown Error...)
My Device is not rooted...
Plzz help me guyzzz...I'm in a serious trouble...
Have you gotten the OTA notification? What version did you downgrade to?
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I have not received any ota notification...Mm build no. is MPJ24.139-64
Koustavsarkar85 said:
At first I updated my Moto G4 plus to Nougat soak test 1(Octobar Security Patch)...Then I unlocked my bootloader & Downgraded to stock Marshmellow...Bt now I am not getting any Official Ota & unable to flash the official Nougat zip file using stock recovery...(Status 7 Error...Unknown Error...)
My Device is not rooted...
Plzz help me guyzzz...I'm in a serious trouble...
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If you want an OTA, your system (including bootloader, recovery, system, etc) needs to be untouched.
If you've already upgraded to a soak test, remember - you would've overwritten your MM bootloader and recovery with an N version one (from the Soak you had upgraded to earlier)
Again, all major official updates (except small incremental one like patches maybe) look for a previous version of the OS (in our case - Stock MM)
If you've flashed the N Soak - you can't downgrade your bootloader just yet ( you'll get a Preflash Validation error)
Because a system update looks for the stock, untouched firmware (Stock MM)
That's why you won't be able to sideload the Official N update even if you're back to MM - because it doesn't have the MM bootloader and recovery etc files it's looking for.
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Koustavsarkar85 said:
build no. is MPJ24.139-64
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For Indian variant who got official update that build no. is 139-63, I think you flashed wrong firmware... Flash correct firmware...
Anyway to flash the whole Nougat via adb as Mm???
Koustavsarkar85 said:
Anyway to flash the whole Nougat via adb as Mm???
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It will take a month (or less/more) for release of Stock Nougat Images...
No other way for Nougat Update now..
Hmm...I request to all the Developers for Nougat image file as soon as possible...Thank u...
Guys i am on soak test as we know yesterday update came out and i havent got any notification,so it means i will not get to update my phone
you need to go back to MM
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Koustavsarkar85 said:
At first I updated my Moto G4 plus to Nougat soak test 1(Octobar Security Patch)...Then I unlocked my bootloader & Downgraded to stock Marshmellow...Bt now I am not getting any Official Ota & unable to flash the official Nougat zip file using stock recovery...(Status 7 Error...Unknown Error...)
My Device is not rooted...
Plzz help me guyzzz...I'm in a serious trouble...
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Its because you flashed a wrong firmware. Flash firmware ending with 63 and not 64.
I'm already on stock Mm...

Can't find update (XT1625)

So I cannot find an update for the Moto g4. The software update says it is fully up to date even though it is running Android 6.1.1 when 7.0 is out.
If any info is needed, ask me.
I'm guessing you mean v6.0.1 MM (NPJ24-139.64/65 I think is the latest MM for XT1625 and XT1644 devices)?
If you wanted to, you could flash the fastboot stock ROM for NPJS25.93-14.4 which is the latest update available (v7.0, March 2017 security update):https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138 As always, be aware that the update may affect your data (as with any flash to system), back up accordingly.
echo92 said:
I'm guessing you mean v6.0.1 MM (NPJ24-139.64/65 I think is the latest MM for XT1625 and XT1644 devices)?
If you wanted to, you could flash the fastboot stock ROM for NPJS25.93-14.4 which is the latest update available (v7.0, March 2017 security update):https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138 As always, be aware that the update may affect your data (as with any flash to system), back up accordingly.
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Are you sure this is for XT1625? It looks like it is for XT1641 and 1645.
FIUSHerson said:
Are you sure this is for XT1625? It looks like it is for XT1641 and 1645.
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It should work, as the NPJS25.93-14.4 build is based on the NPJ25.93-14 (Dec 2016 security patch) build, just updated with the March 2017 security update.
If you wish to be more certain, you can flash the aforementioned NPJ25.93-14 update via the fastboot ROM (from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369) which has XT1625 users reporting it flashes, and then wait for the OTA for the March 2017 security patch (which recent indications suggest it's been deployed in the US), or you could sideload the OTA (after flashing the Nougat 93-14 update) by downloading from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/official-moto-g4-plus-ota-update-build-t3584982
Hopefully, by flashing the Nougat update, OTA updates will arrive again via the retail USA software channel.

What firmware for XT1681

Hey there !
I have a Moto G5 Plus International edition (XT1681) with firmware NPNS25.137-92-4 (latest January Patch).
I want to know what firmware to download from here (https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/) for factory flash not to get bricked like an idiot.
I don't know which one is good
Thanks
The last 2 ROMs are for your device, if you have a custom recovery I recommend to install the flashable version from this link .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
Here are the same version of your device NPNS25.137-92-4 (20180101 security patch)
Oh nice !
Is it OK to OTA update on these flashable .zip ? As I have also modified the kernel which is not stock anymore :/
CobraBoyFR said:
Oh nice !
Is it OK to OTA update on these flashable .zip ? As I have also modified the kernel which is not stock anymore :/
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i didnt try to flash over a fastboot rom, maybe you cant do that.
Thanks
But basically, what I need is flashing full stock firmware (with recovery and kernel), no matter if it's january update or not. Just the factory images I had when I bought the phone. And I don't know what version is OK for my phone (XT1681 with NPNS25.137-92-4 now) 'cause I don't want to hard brick it when OTA updating (to Oreo for example)
From your link the last 2 ROMs are the same so you can use both.
You are on stock right? Do you planning on flashing custom ROMs? If you flash Oreo ROMs and you want to downgrade flashing fastboot rom maybe you lost volte.
RokCruz said:
From your link the last 2 ROMs are the same so you can use both.
You are on stock right? Do you planning on flashing custom ROMs? If you flash Oreo ROMs and you want to downgrade flashing fastboot rom maybe you lost volte.
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Right now I'm on stock NPNS25.137-92-4, with TWRP recovery + Magisk root + ElementalX kernel
I'm not planning to flash any custom ROM for the moment. When the official Oreo update comes out, I want to update. But I know it won't go well if I OTA update it with my current configuration. That's why I want to be able to flash stock with fastboot (rough clean install), no matter what version I get : All i want is to be able to update to Oreo when it's out. Problem is, I don't know which image I need to download from here : https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/
I know it's there, but don't know exactly the good version.
This is for our device xt1681
https://firmware.center/firmware/Mo...ubsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
I'm on flashable stock with ex kernel and magisk, when the Oreo ota start rolling out I'll wait for flashable rom so I'll can upgrade (dirty flash) so I don't loose anything.
RokCruz said:
This is for our device xt1681
https://firmware.center/firmware/Mo...ubsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
I'm on flashable stock with ex kernel and magisk, when the Oreo ota start rolling out I'll wait for flashable rom so I'll can upgrade (dirty flash) so I don't loose anything.
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If your device was flashed with stock firmware newer than NPN25.137-15, I would strongly advise against flashing the NPN25.137-15 stock firmware.
The reason is that downgrading stock firmware downgrades your system, but not usually your bootloader (your bootloader will likely report a security downgrade/pre-flash validation error). As such, you'll have a newer bootloader but older system (in terms of patch levels). For example, you have the NPNS25.137-92-4 stock firmware (before flashing TWRP), so your bootloader is the Jan 2018 patch level. You flash this NPN25.137-15 firmware - you have a Jan 2017 system, but still a Jan 2018 bootloader.
The downgrade generally goes okay. However, taking OTA updates with this mismatch in bootloader and system is generally what results in hard bricks; the OTA update checks for your system patch level - in the above example, you'll probably get the OTA update to upgrade from NPN25.137-15... However, your bootloader is not the NPN25.137-15 patch level bootloader, as such your bootloader may get overwritten by the OTA and gets corrupted in the process, leading to hard bricks. This scenario isn't just applicable for the NPN25.137-15 update, this potentially applies if you flash a stock firmware older than what was on your device and then attempt to use OTA updates (unless you could flash the stock firmware directly preceding the firmware you had).
Easiest way is to re-flash the same stock ROM build you had before flashing TWRP. I don't see any NPNS25.137-92-4 stock ROMs leaked yet from the Motorola Firmware Team page https://androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 or firmware.mirror but hopefully they'll be along soon.
If you're on stock NPNS25.137-92-4, in theory you could flash NPN25.137-92 (the build directly before the NPNS25.137-92-4 Jan 2018 security update), so the next OTA update would update your device to NPNS25.137-92-4 - the OTA would be simply patching your device to the same build it's currently on and in theory that should work. NPN25.137-92 is one of the firmwares currently available so may be worth thinking about. Best thing though is to flash the NPNS25.137-92-4 firmware or newer firmware that is the correct build for XT1681 devices.
echo92 said:
If your device was flashed with stock firmware newer than NPN25.137-15, I would strongly advise against flashing the NPN25.137-15 stock firmware.
The reason is that downgrading stock firmware downgrades your system, but not usually your bootloader (your bootloader will likely report a security downgrade/pre-flash validation error). As such, you'll have a newer bootloader but older system (in terms of patch levels). For example, you have the NPNS25.137-92-4 stock firmware (before flashing TWRP), so your bootloader is the Jan 2018 patch level. You flash this NPN25.137-15 firmware - you have a Jan 2017 system, but still a Jan 2018 bootloader.
The downgrade generally goes okay. However, taking OTA updates with this mismatch in bootloader and system is generally what results in hard bricks; the OTA update checks for your system patch level - in the above example, you'll probably get the OTA update to upgrade from NPN25.137-15... However, your bootloader is not the NPN25.137-15 patch level bootloader, as such your bootloader may get overwritten by the OTA and gets corrupted in the process, leading to hard bricks. This scenario isn't just applicable for the NPN25.137-15 update, this potentially applies if you flash a stock firmware older than what was on your device and then attempt to use OTA updates (unless you could flash the stock firmware directly preceding the firmware you had).
Easiest way is to re-flash the same stock ROM build you had before flashing TWRP. I don't see any NPNS25.137-92-4 stock ROMs leaked yet from the Motorola Firmware Team page https://androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 or firmware.mirror but hopefully they'll be along soon.
If you're on stock NPNS25.137-92-4, in theory you could flash NPN25.137-92 (the build directly before the NPNS25.137-92-4 Jan 2018 security update), so the next OTA update would update your device to NPNS25.137-92-4 - the OTA would be simply patching your device to the same build it's currently on and in theory that should work. NPN25.137-92 is one of the firmwares currently available so may be worth thinking about. Best thing though is to flash the NPNS25.137-92-4 firmware or newer firmware that is the correct build for XT1681 devices.
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In few words we only can flash ROMs with the same compilation number or higher to avoid hard brick right?
RokCruz said:
In few words we only can flash ROMs with the same compilation number or higher to avoid hard brick right?
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Pretty much, yes (or at least it minimises the chances of a hard brick). If you really want to flash older stock ROMs, please do not use OTA updates at all. Ignore the OTA prompt or freeze the Motorola OTA updater if you downgraded your stock firmware. It's not fun seeing a £150-200 (or your regional equivalent) device hard bricked.
However, with Motorola's habit of releasing different builds to different regions, please ensure you flash the correct build for your device, else the Motorola servers may not issue OTAs if you're on the incorrect series of builds for your software channel. The latest available leaked firmware for your device appears to be NPN25.137-92 (we don't have access to NPNS25.137-92-4 yet).
echo92 said:
Pretty much, yes (or at least it minimises the chances of a hard brick). If you really want to flash older stock ROMs, please do not use OTA updates at all. Ignore the OTA prompt or freeze the Motorola OTA updater if you downgraded your stock firmware. It's not fun seeing a £150-200 (or your regional equivalent) device hard bricked.
However, with Motorola's habit of releasing different builds to different regions, please ensure you flash the correct build for your device, else the Motorola servers may not issue OTAs if you're on the incorrect series of builds for your software channel. The latest available leaked firmware for your device appears to be NPN25.137-92 (we don't have access to NPNS25.137-92-4 yet).
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That was roughly what I figured out but damn, those explanations, thanks buddy :highfive:
The January update's bootloader is the same bootloader that the November security patch update has. You can flash the
POTTER_NPN25.137-83_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC files from fastboot (skip gpt.bin) then OTA to 93 (November Patch), then OTA to 93-4 (January Patch)
The OTA will not brick the phone since the bootloader the OTA flashes is the same one it is currently on.
Also, this is what I did to get onto the January Patch so I can confirm my phone works fine and did not brick.
driverdis said:
The January update's bootloader is the same bootloader that the November security patch update has. You can flash the
POTTER_NPN25.137-83_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC files from fastboot (skip gpt.bin) then OTA to 93 (November Patch), then OTA to 93-4 (January Patch)
The OTA will not brick the phone since the bootloader the OTA flashes is the same one it is currently on.
Also, this is what I did to get onto the January Patch so I can confirm my phone works fine and did not brick.
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On xt1681 right?
Thanks for your feedback
echo92 said:
Pretty much, yes (or at least it minimises the chances of a hard brick). If you really want to flash older stock ROMs, please do not use OTA updates at all. Ignore the OTA prompt or freeze the Motorola OTA updater if you downgraded your stock firmware. It's not fun seeing a £150-200 (or your regional equivalent) device hard bricked.
However, with Motorola's habit of releasing different builds to different regions, please ensure you flash the correct build for your device, else the Motorola servers may not issue OTAs if you're on the incorrect series of builds for your software channel. The latest available leaked firmware for your device appears to be NPN25.137-92 (we don't have access to NPNS25.137-92-4 yet).
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yeah i cant apply normal OTA over flashable rom. I was on NPN25.137-92(flashable) i download NPNS25.137-92-4(flashable too) i dirty flashed it and it works perfect without lose my stuff
I ordered XT1681 International version from Amazon.ca. I replaced the recovery with TWRP. I have two questions.
(1) I am prompted to install 137-92-8 via OTA. Where can I find this TWRP flashable ROM for this version ? I am on 137-92-4.
(2) Is there any other compatible stock ROM that I can install on it ? The OTA message is in Spanish. My preference is in English and as long as it supports the dual SIM and the NIC.
Thanks.
jkl555 said:
I ordered XT1681 International version from Amazon.ca. I replaced the recovery with TWRP. I have two questions.
(1) I am prompted to install 137-92-8 via OTA. Where can I find this TWRP flashable ROM for this version ? I am on 137-92-4.
(2) Is there any other compatible stock ROM that I can install on it ? The OTA message is in Spanish. My preference is in English and as long as it supports the dual SIM and the NIC.
Thanks.
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Just to reply to myself for (2). I found the following link
https://www.stockrom.net/2017/05/st...g5-plus-xt1683-xt1681-android-7-0-nougat.html

Latest official Moto G4 Plus ROM

I have a Moto G4 Plus that has TWRP and was also rooted. I got a notification for a OTA security update today and I installed it. But after reboot my phone goes into TWRP.
I tried to restore my back up, but even after restoring the backup it still goes into TWRP. I think I need to reinstall the ROM? If so is the latest ROM available on xda so I can manually install it?
If you want to try to bypass the bootloop, here's a potential guide. I have not tried it so up to you: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/troubleshooting-twrp-boot-loop-ota-t3714325
If you need to flash the latest stock ROM, the latest for G4/Plus (not G4 Play) is NPJS25.93-14-18 (with the B1:07 bootloader): https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138 I have noted this firmware has been deployed to Brazil and EU/UK devices, may arrive to India devices and other regions but please verify before flashing. For US devices, they are on a different update stream, the latest firmware I noted for them is NPJ25.93-14.7-5 (Feb 2018 security patch) but the latest leaked US retail firmware is NPJ25.93-14.7 (Sept 2017) https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617945295

Heip with G5 plus non-rooted phone with unlocked bootloader running August 2018 8.1

Hello,
I've just bought a second-hand moto G5 Plus that had a custom rom installed on it, I'm guessing it was also rooted at some point. It currently has the Aug 1 2018 version of 8.1:
build #: OPS28.85-13
It's been a while since I've messed about with flashing phones, so I wanted to ask for some assistance before potentially bricking the poor thing.
Ideally, I'd like to get it back on the stock update channel, so it can get OTA updates, but with root -- if that's not possible, I'd be almost as happy to just flash a Sept 1 2018 build (which my other 100% stock G5 plus already has) and root it. I've looked at a few posts here, notably this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482
Though not knowing the exact history of the device, I'm reluctant to just follow the instructions. Can anyone provide some insight as to the safe(st) procedure?
Thanks!
-pir
You can't have root and receive updates from official channel at the same time.. the bootloader need to be locked to recieve updates.. you can however flash twrp on the device.. flash the stock rom( you will find latest in the forums).. and when the updates come out someone will capture it and make a flashabe zip, so you just need to flash that.. you can have root that way and stay updated.. cause from what I've read so far you don't get OTA when you're bootloader is unlocked..
That makes sense. So I guess the moto software won't even attempt an update if the bootloader is unlocked? Thanks!
Unlocked bootloader won't make any difference. The OTA update checks the system files and bootloader. If you have made any modifications to the system, kernel, or are running an older bootloader version the update will fail. Lock status of the bootloader makes no difference.
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