Galaxy A5 2017 (A520F) overheating issue - Galaxy A3, A5, A7, A8, A9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

Hi guys and girls,
I've got my A5 a few days back, and at start it worked great. I've messed up with a lot of software, tried everything out, and instead of uninstalling everything I thought it'd be best to do a factory reset. That's where my problems started.
While I set up the phone and installed all the apps (updated) that came with the phone, connected to a 100Mbps optical internet via AC wifi, I lost about 15% of battery. Okay, who knows what the phone needed to do, lets move on.
Next day I was just using Whatsapp, messaging with my gf, and the phone was a bit warm with 20-25% brightness (auto-off). The battery temperature was 32-33C, and I used an infrared thermometer and measured 33.5C on the back of the phone at the Samsung logo. Then I just browsed the settings, setting up my phone a bit more, and it was still getting warm, getting anywhere between 31 to 33C on the battery and around 33C with an IR thermometer. I still can't say much about battery drainage but the phone is getting pretty warm even while browsing the web or doing non-intensive tasks.
Does the A5 2017 get warm or is it just me? Should I RMA it?

Have a520f, 33C is near average. But it's also dependent on the weather. Fast charging or charging with the screen off will raise it. If it wasn't always like that, maybe something in the background is using the CPU, checking for updates or notifications. The CPU/GPU is like a car engine, running at various 'speeds' and 'weights it is carrying', and it does get warm. Only if it gets hot, then it's a problem. Many apps could do those checks once the screen is turned on. Uninstalling/changing settings will only help with battery life (percent drain), the temperature is ok. The a520f (and a510f) also has touchboost, temporarily raising the CPU clock when the screen is touched. Might be noticeable with background tasks while using a keyboard.

Thanks friend. Didn't know about "Touchboost", you opened it up for me a bit there.
While the screen is off, It's perfectly fine. Once I take it in my hands, it starts to get warm around the Samsung logo. It's probably screen + apps + nowhere to dissipate heat, but I wasn't noticing it at start. I've only had it for a couple of days now. I don't know about the battery drainage, with a charge lasting me ~40hrs with 7h SOT I wouldn't say it's draining at all - though my screen is at low brightness, 1/4 max.
Just wanted to see what you other guys are getting as I thought it was high. My ambient is around 24-25C all year long. I've seen tests where people weren't getting more than 30C at all, but as you said, it's the ambient that dictates that.

Idk if this is only with mine but sometimes I turn the phone off completely and put it to charge and it happens that it can reach like 35°C without touching it. Now the phone is plugged, I only browse with chrome facebook.. and it is like 37°c. That can happen when it is not plugged too. Using wifi seems to be better though.
I dont think I have an important battery drain because it can last about 6-8h SOT normal usage.
Onr other thing, when I turn on the mobile hotspot, the battery drains way more than usually and heats up too.

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Question: Has ANYONE figured out a...

...definitive solution to the overheating (and subsequent crap battery life) issue with the Tytn/Hermes/8525?
This seems to be one of the most prevalent hardware-related problems I've encountered after perusal of numerous boards.
Charging, it heats up. Duh. Fine. Disconnect, put it in my breast pocket after it cools down, twiddle my thumbs. During this whole time, for purposes of this test, EVERYTHING is switched off: phone radio, wifi, bt, push, and as many of the background processes as I can kill without having the phone hang on me.
You'd think the symptoms would be the same every time. But nooooo...this thing has a mind of its own. Sometimes it'll be 5 mins before I start feeling the heat, sometimes 40. It's totally unpredictable. I've tried every way I can find to extend the battery life with no luck; this is getting retarded.
So: Battery life drops drastically once the thing starts heating up. But not before. From 3PM to 4PM today, battery life was at 100% and did not move. Sweeeet! I thought...too soon. Got that warm and fuzzy feeling - then it's in free fall. 10% down in 45mins, another 20% by 5:30, dead as a doornail by 8PM. That's exactly FIVE hours of "standby" with ZERO activity. Screen was turned on maybe 4 times just to check battery status. 200 hours of standby?? Sure, in a deep freezer packed with dry ice...
Installed Batti: if anyone with close to normal (advertised?) battery life has also installed it, could you tell me what your temperatures are like? When I'm charging, I'm at 35.6C. My voltage is at 4.213V - this might be the problem since the battery is listed as a 3.7V 1500mAH. Also, I removed the charger for about 30 seconds after Batti said it was charged, then reinserted it. It took about 30 minutes to tell me again that it was full - all the while listing the "Percent" as 100%. Gah!
Anyway - back to the reason I've posted:
1) Is this a phone issue, tweak/registry/software issue, or a good old fashioned battery issue? I've got another battery coming in shortly but it's nothing special, not sure of the brand, just want to compare it to this one - which is a Seidio.
2) If anyone else has had this problem and solved it, please let me know what you did.
3) This phone is for sale if anyone wants it and knows how to fix it. Other than the 5 hours of battery life, the phone is perfect.
Thanks all!
The only time I've ever had this problem was when I installed the very first Palringo mobile beta, and it continuously polled the Palringo servers whenever it was connected... I had a battery life of about an hour and a half!
I can only suggest you have some poorly-written app on your device which is polling some piece of hardware or using (or trying to use!) the data connection, subsequently failing and looping round to try again and again.
I'm not using Batti (using the BatteryStatus Today Screen plugin), but it shows temps - I'm charging my device at the moment and it shows ~41 degrees celcius. When I unplug the charger, I have about 70mW usage and when I tap to turn the backlight back on it roughly doubles (backlight on its lowest setting). Using roughly 40-45mA just idling, I have push mail turned on and ActiveSync is syncing probably every 5/10 minutes or so (can't remember the interval).
I get about a day's worth of usage including regular phone usage, data usage, then locking the device (including turning the backlight off) when it's just on the desk or in my pocket (less if I have BT turned on all the time, obviously). All I can think of is that you have some app on there which is either interacting with something else or causing the problem itself.
@slidizzy:
what is the manufacturer name on the battery?
There are threads around about certain manufacturer brands (there are a couple of different brands) and their performance..
i had a dynatec and it was crappy.. took it back and got a sanyo battery and all was good...
Possible solution - Same geographic location
Hi. I seemed to have the same problem recently. I think my radio was the new 1.54.00.10. I have two batteries and each one was killed in 6 to 8 hours.
I first downgraded the radio to 1.51.00.10 and it seemed a little bit better, but upon upgrading to 1.54.70.00, it seemed to have gone away. My OS is Pandora's 7.1 w/ 3.62.
With 1.51.00.10, I was able to get over a day's worth of life on one charge in 3G/H mode. It seems this 1.54.70.00 is giving me more life, but I'm still testing.
Maybe give this a try, upgrading to 1.54.70.00 and a 3.62 os. No problems for me so far and it seems like it's a keeper!
Hope this helps!
Quakie
Soft reset when it starts getting warm, soft reset after charging if it is warm when on the charger.
My 8525 used to have this problem, but it went away on its own. However, soft resets when the device felt warm did solve the problem when it was occurring. Note that my phone is no longer warm while charging, either.
A lot of people try various radio upgrades/downgrades and ROM changes to fix this, but I think that's on the wrong track as I've never seen anyone report that doing these things made any difference. However, if you're not using WM6, I recommend at least making that change.
Other than that, hit the reset button if it starts to feel warm for no reason and after charging, and you should be fine.
My guess on this is that there is some kind of problem where the device thinks it is plugged in when it isn't, and then it over stresses the battery causing the heat and fast battery drain.
My experience
I am on Rogers in Canada, the same company that owns Fido, and I wonder if there is a problem with their network/ActiveSync/3G/units compatibility.
carrier: Rogers wireless (Canada)
device: branded HTC TyTN WM 5
ROM: 1.34.631.14
Radio: 1.42.00.00
Recently activated Push Email and connecting to exchange server via Activesync. Push requires an "always-on" data connection. It seemed to have been working fine for about 2 days, then suddenly my unit started to heat up significantly, (luckily no screen warp), and my battery would drain from 100% to 0% in 5 hours (if I was lucky). Unsatisifed with Rogers suggestion that replacing the unit with a refurbished unit was the way to go... I continued my research and experimentation and 48 hours later here is whatI came upwith so far:
1) Hard Reset - did not help the situation
2) Soft Reset when heating up - did not help the situation
3) Most frequently associated activity - ActiveSync on with 3G Data Connecton enabled and server directed to exchange server... no difference depending on how often I had the mobile device ping the exchange server. The heat and battery drain occurred while the TyTN was in hibernation (dead unit in the AM when I awoke).
4) Battery drain modifiers - worsens with worsening heat, worsens and acclerates if you remain in an area of low signal (less than 2 bars showing)
Best solution(s)/explanation(s) to date:
1) 3G is a battery killer - it uses a lower intenisty signal, and it generally draws heavier on the battery and hardware when using the network
2) In Phone settings, switching your Band to GSM (2G) fixes the device into one band (does not allow automatic switching and constant detection of best signal). Unless you are a real Power User and rely heavily on every ounce of speed that can be squeezed out of 3G there is no noticeable difference.
3) I have switched off the "receive allincoming beams" for the Ir interface to conserve every mV of power in my battery.
4) Since the switch (a few hours now) I have had no heat issues and the voltage has remained stable with ActiveSync on and mild websurfing to download a couple of CABs... granted it is minimal usage as it is 2:30AM but I think this may be the trick (on Rogers with a TyTN anyways)
I'll keep an eye on this and do some more analysis on the battery... Any input readily welcomed...
M
sounds like you simply need to buy a new battery.
It's not a tumoh!
Doesn't seem to be battery...
I recently tweaked reg with some battery hacks, locked it into 2G and all has been well. Holding a charge with the data connection engaged 24/7 - drops to about 65% charge over 24h, having to charge only every 2nd/3rd day...
M

Running a lil hot?

I've noticed it previously during usage (like on the internet while having MSN running, or while playing games)
but I just got off a phone call which lasted about 20 minutes, and the front (and back) of my phone was just too warm for me to ignore. I would have suggested that it was the heat from my cheek against the phone but that wouldn't explain how the phone was quite noticeably warmer than my cheek.
The backlight wasn't on (i doubt the LED backlight would cause much heat anyway).
Does the mega have any internal temperature sensors like PC's have? And any software to read them?
My previous phones NEVER got this hot on even hour long calls,
and mix this with the fact that at my work one of the PDA's blew up a few weeks ago (was the battery), it just makes me that more paranoid!
I am going to Hard Reset soon anyway as things started running a little slowly recently, I hope it will also stop any hidden processes that may be running in the background and overworking the cpu. But I would still like to know of any software
Weznezz said:
I've noticed it previously during usage (like on the internet while having MSN running, or while playing games)
but I just got off a phone call which lasted about 20 minutes, and the front (and back) of my phone was just too warm for me to ignore. I would have suggested that it was the heat ..../QUOTE]
I think its pretty normal to heat up during long conversation. Their manual also says "Using any function for long time will heat up the phone", but only upto a level.
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i've never experienced warming of the phone which is coused by operating it , well maybe just a lil utube watching for an hour but it was warm of my hands , i'm only worried when i leave it charging and after 15-20 mins LOL ! the phone is HOT i know that is normal , just sharing opinion
Heat comes from 2 sources in general external and internal.
External is from sun, your hands or phone in your pocket. On longer run this is not good for battery life.
Using navigation in your car during summer can run your phone real hot and feels quite uncomfortable! From a 20 min call it should not. But this is subjective.
Internal heat is caused when your processor has to work hard; like when several programs running and processes in back ground. You can check and kill them with task manager (FDC soft task manager) and batteryguard. Also soft reset kills most "unwanted" processes. A good indication for high level of processor activity is when your battery level goes quickly down.
Its normal mate, on mine when i use GPS for long time it does the same, processor works hard and battery gets hot.
Not sure if navigation alone causes your battery to run hot. Since navigation can run on 200Mhz processors and Mega processor has much higher clock speed it is overspecified.
The influence of phone close to windscreen and therefor impact of light/sun may be much bigger. When I run navigation (TomTom) in winter phone stays nicely "cool".
Not sure if it could help but once i noticed the Mega too warm and discharging instead of charging, after i connected it to the notebook via usb cable!
Rebooted PC and HTC and everything luckly returned normal...
gfreeman86 said:
Not sure if it could help but once i noticed the Mega too warm and discharging instead of charging, after i connected it to the notebook via usb cable!
Rebooted PC and HTC and everything luckly returned normal...
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Indeed a soft reset in most cases solves this.

[Q] i9505 Overheating @ idle

I noticed that my S4 i9505 was getting hot despite what I was doing, playing heavy games like RR3, or just seeing some stuff on the gallery, and my battery is lasting around 10h...
So I made a test, put the screen timeout to 10 mins, and let it on the homescreen (with black background and no widgets, I have absolutely no widget on any homescreen), the battery drained very quick, and the screen was hot like hell
I forced to close all apps, cleaned RAM, and began the test again, same thing, battery draining quick, and screen very hot...
So I tried turning off wifi+GPS+mobile data, and made the test again, the battery didn't lose even 1%, and the screen was room temperature...
Now, why is it getting so hot and draining battery with wifi+GPS+mobile data even if I don't have any widget, and I always chose APPs like facebook to keep me always offline and never notify anithing?
This phone was very expensive, and I use Gotya to protect it from thieves, but I need to keep wifi+GPS+mobile data ON with I want this program to work, so I don't want to need to turn everything off and take the risk of being robbed and now getting it back, but also I just wanted to the battery last long enough so I don't need to charge more than at night while I sleep....
These are the options I use daily:
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Even with power saving ON on two places, it rarelly lasts enough to not charge it before I go to bed
And this is my homescreen:
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Using Wifi+GPS+Mobile Data, it will spend ~4% every 10 minutes... but when I turn them off, it'll spend ~1% every HOUR!
Specht77 said:
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Using Wifi+GPS+Mobile Data, it will spend ~4% every 10 minutes... but when I turn them off, it'll spend ~1% every HOUR!
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That's not too unusual. What do you expect? Using Wifi+GPS+Mobile Data does consume battery rather quickly on any device, particularly when the screen is on and driving a 5" Full HD screen.
If the Wifi+GPS+Mobile Data have weak signals, the battery will be consumed even more quickly than normal as the respective radio strains to connect to the weak signal. Even when the phone is completely off your phone, the battery will lose power, though at a slower rate.
The art and science of power management is about knowing what you want and prioritizing your needs based on realistic performance expectations. Almost nobody needs to run Wifi+GPS+Mobile Data at the same time, so ask yourself what's the thing you are doing and then prioritize your power expenditure based on those needs.
In my case, I don't use autosync. I sync manually every hour or so if needed, or less if not, and same for location services: Off until I need them. I toggle my data off when not using it, use Wifi over mobile data because it tends to be stronger signal and use less battery, keep my brightness at manually set reasonable levels, and I can easily get two days out of a charge, even with 4-5 hours of screen-on time, which includes gaming, surfing, calls, texts, voicemail, etc.
I'm not dissatisfied with the battery life, but I am dissatisfied with a few other things on the S4. It's not a perfect device, but overall, it's good, and I'm not even running a stock ROM, which is most typically said to give even better battery life overall.
Every Wiz-bang "feature" of Touchwiz comes at a price. There's no free lunch, my friend. Turn off what you don't need, or be prepared to pay the price for it.
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That's not too unusual. What do you expect? Using Wifi+GPS+Mobile Data does consume battery rather quickly on any device, particularly when the screen is on and driving a 5" Full HD screen.
If the Wifi+GPS+Mobile Data have weak signals, the battery will be consumed even more quickly than normal as the respective radio strains to connect to the weak signal.
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About the screen, as I said, in 10 minutes with W+G+M ON (Don't want to keep repeting every time) it spends +-4% with screen turned on (and it even gets HOT!)
with W+G+M OFF it spends 1% or less with the screen turned on (at least on my homescreen that is very dark) (and it keeps on room temperature)
I just expected that it didn't drained the battery so furiously, since I have no widgets to keep getting updates from internet, Sync is turned off, etc...
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About the screen, as I said, in 10 minutes with W+G+M ON (Don't want to keep repeting every time) it spends +-4% with screen turned on (and it even gets HOT!)
with W+G+M OFF it spends 1% or less with the screen turned on (at least on my homescreen that is very dark) (and it keeps on room temperature)
I just expected that it didn't drained the battery so furiously, since I have no widgets to keep getting updates from internet, Sync is turned off, etc...
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I live in a warm, tropical climate, and at times, during gaming or in poor signal areas, my S4 will get a bit warm, but nothing unusual, and again, when you have the radios turned on, they are going to heat the device up and consume the battery, and the hotter it gets, the worse the power loss is. It's just a fact. There are inescapable Laws of Physics at play here. There's no way around them at present.
The radios use a lot of power, and much more so when they are all on at once (as you described) and straining to connect in a poor signal area.
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are going to heat the device up and consume the battery, and the hotter it gets, the worse the power loss is. It's just a fact. There are inescapable Laws of Physics at play here. There's no way around them at present.
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By the way you're talking to me, I assume you think I'm a dumbass, it's obvious that the hotter it's getting it's because it's speding more energy, that's why I'm putting enphasis on the fact it's getting HOT, because I'm with absolutely no APP open, even made a "clear RAM" to close everything, and still it's getting HOT of how much energy it's spending even in IDLE
I have a nokia N8, and if I let it with screen on, on IDLE, wifi ON, 3G on, it won't get hot as my S4 is getting from the draining of the battery
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By the way you're talking to me, I assume you think I'm a dumbass, it's obvious that the hotter it's getting it's because it's speding more energy, that's why I'm putting enphasis on the fact it's getting HOT, because I'm with absolutely no APP open, even made a "clear RAM" to close everything, and still it's getting HOT of how much energy it's spending even in IDLE
I have a nokia N8, and if I let it with screen on, on IDLE, wifi ON, 3G on, it won't get hot as my S4 is getting from the draining of the battery
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That's not what I think. I don't experience what you do, so I can only guess that it's something related to a) Tochwiz and/or your software cong or b) something hardware related to your device.
Have you thought about flashing CM to test it? I'd be curious to see if it continues.
FWIW, I'd love a Nokia-based Android device. Their hardware is amazing.
Go into Settings > More > Developer Options > Show CPU Usage. It should indicate which process is using a lot of CPU and heating up your device.
That gotya protection app should be working overtime on all radios keeping it awake and running all the time ... may be something with it's settings or you should find another one to do the job ... generally if you have some apps syncing and an open data connection halves your battery life and even more if that is mobile data but still your case is certainly abnormal and i think it has to do with the particular app you mentioned using ...
uninstall it and test how battery hold with data connections and gps on ...

[Q] Battery drain issue

Hi,
I got my second android phone (LG G2 obviously) this christmas, and I haven't had time to properly use it (I don't have a micro SIM yet). I noticed that my battery is going empty pretty fast, although I heard this phone has a amazing battery. My friend got this phone too and he told he's been on one charge for about 36 hours with constant wi-fi connection, app downloading, playing games etc. so I figured something's off. I charged the device before going to bed and when I woke up (10 hrs later) battery was on 85% (only 2 MINUTES of screen time!!!!) and I had no apps running on the backround, no nothing. So now I'm thinking is there some easy fix for this or should I return it and get a replacement? Also something weird I noticed yesterday was that even though I don't have a SIM card yet, but 16% of the battery was used by the phone application. I did some screenshots of battery usage today and yesterday too if anyone's interested.
There are literally dozens of similar threads... suggest you start searching.
And I literally have gone through 90% of them so I decided to start a new thead. Do you (or someone) think that a factory reset could help? And the next question might sound stupid, but if I do a factory reset then does the warranty remain? Better safe than sorry I guess
I just played 4 minuts of hill climb racing and lost 3% of my battery, this is not normal. Does anyone even have a solution for this? All I see on other threads is questions and questions, but I don't see anyone saying "That worked and my battery life is normal now"
It's normal if screen is bright. Especially if carrier bloat is still there. Post screens, all you have, and what carrier. The phone could have been sick in a search state.
I don't think my phone is tied to any carrier, it was bought from just a regular electronics shop, but frankly I did a facory reset and didn't realize that all my screenshots will be gone too. Do you really think it's normal that 10 hrs of idling causes 15% battery loss? And it has the stock LG apps (safety care, life square, cell broadcast etc.). What do you mean by "The phone could have been sick in a search state."? My screen brightness is on 70%.
It's normal with bloat in it. They all have bloat stock. 70 is high and can eat at the battery pretty good. I mean it could have software glitched and was struck searching for activation behind the scenes. Use Wake Lock Detector and see what is keeping it awake.
This, almost 20% drop was caused by downloading 3 apps (facebook, facebook messenger and twitter), updating ~10 apps (all done via wi-fi) and rearranging my home screen.
Steamer86, are you sure? My friend told me that he has been 36 hrs on one charge without changing any settings and just downloading apps, playing games and testing the phone.
Your idle is great at that point in time. Facebook is a battery killer. That's a lot of activity with 70% brightness all the time. It's 17% and medium higher side usage and an hour+ of screen time. What are you expecting? At this rate with 70% constant screen and Wi-Fi pushing pretty good you would get almost 6 hours OST. That isn't bad bud.
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Your idle is great at that point in time. Facebook is a battery killer. That's a lot of activity with 70% brightness all the time. It's 17% and medium higher side usage and an hour+ of screen time. What are you expecting? At this rate with 70% constant screen and Wi-Fi pushing pretty good you would get almost 6 hours OST. That isn't bad bud.
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I hope you are right, but for helping and giving advice I'm going to hit that 'thanks' button
This night i lost 18% of my battery and my phone was almost all the time on deep sleep.
But i did notice something weird, battery usage shows that Android OS is using up most of my battery and when I press on it and then hit the back button then the Android OS changes to something called surfaceflinger for a millisecond (check the screenshots)
xyrrrrr said:
This night i lost 18% of my battery and my phone was almost all the time on deep sleep.
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Can you try putting your phone in airplane mode and then turn on Wi-Fi? If you aren't using a cell carrier than there's no need to keep that on.
See how this works in increasing battery life for you.
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Unrooted 6P on Nougat Hot in Pocket, Cool on Desk (Project Fi)

Hi, I've had my Nexus 6P since June now and I've been noticing some issues with battery life and Android N. The weird thing is, the battery is only having troubles when the phone is in my pocket. If I leave my phone on my desk the battery drains very slowly, but while in my pocket the phone gets hot and the battery drains much quicker (e.g. a short 10 minute run to chipotle for lunch left me with 5% lower battery. My phone didn't leave my pocket the entire time).
I'm using Project Fi for service and am in Manhattan, so service isn't an issue. I use the phone with backlight settings at 50% and I don't use the screen more than 30 minutes a day on average. I have location services disabled, I'm on the most recent Android N preview, I use WiFi at work and at home. I have a Pebble Time smartwatch that is connected via Bluetooth to my phone all hours of the day. My phone is Unrooted and has no custom bootloader. I don't have any apps that contribute significantly to my battery drain.
I suspect that my battery issues are from the new and 'improved' Doze feature on Android N.
I don't have a battery breakdown handy (cause I stupidly plugged it in before screenshotting) but the top stat on my battery drain is Android System, with CPU total over 1.5 hours in a given day and Keep awake over 45 minutes at least.
If anyone has experienced similar behavior or might have a clue as to why my battery is dying and how to fix it, please let me know!
Thanks!
- Eric
I turned off the 'ambient display' option in Settings/Display almost immediately upon getting the phone (which I've had for 3 days now!) I found that it would wake the screen and turn off a bunch of times if I was just carrying the phone and not actually interacting with it. I can see that being a big battery drain just for the screen time.
Good luck!
I don't have a solution, but my Nexus 6P has a similar symptom: It gets hot when it's in my pocket at work.
Based on the wifi wakelocks I've seen in Wakelock Detector, I suspect it's trying too hard to stay connected to the wireless network. We have a few access points at work, and it's possible my phone is switching back and forth between the two closest access points. It's also possible that the wifi signal isn't strong enough, so the phone boosts power to the wifi radio.
I'm on Project Fi, and I know the T-Mobile and Sprint signals are both weak at work. I don't know how much energy the phone wastes trying to keep itself registered on the mobile network, but I imagine that could also be related. Even though Project Fi will successfully use wifi to send and receive messages and phone calls, I'm pretty sure it still keeps trying to get a better connection to the mobile network (like every other phone).
It's difficult to judge whether the phone actually does something to cause a higher temperature while it's in my pocket, or if it just dissipates heat better on my desk. My pants are definitely too tight, so I'm sure that doesn't help.
FractalSphere said:
I turned off the 'ambient display' option in Settings/Display almost immediately upon getting the phone (which I've had for 3 days now!) I found that it would wake the screen and turn off a bunch of times if I was just carrying the phone and not actually interacting with it. I can see that being a big battery drain just for the screen time.
Good luck!
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Hey, thanks for the tip about ambient display. I turned it off and I'll let you know how it goes
This is pretty simple. Phones rely on airflow to remain cool because they have no active cooling. A phone on a desk has airflow. A phone in a pocket doesn't. No airflow means hotter phone. A hot battery drains much faster than a cool battery. That's all it comes down to.
Heisenberg said:
This is pretty simple. Phones rely on airflow to remain cool because they have no active cooling. A phone on a desk has airflow. A phone in a pocket doesn't. No airflow means hotter phone. A hot battery drains much faster than a cool battery. That's all it comes down to.
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Totally not what's going on. When in my pocket, the processor gets really hot, the rest of the phone warms up from my leg heat, but there is a hot-to-the-touch feeling to the top of the screen near the CPU which indicates higher clock speeds on the CPU while supposedly 'idle' in my pocket.
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I turned off the 'ambient display' option in Settings/Display almost immediately upon getting the phone (which I've had for 3 days now!) I found that it would wake the screen and turn off a bunch of times if I was just carrying the phone and not actually interacting with it. I can see that being a big battery drain just for the screen time.
Good luck!
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No luck . Still having serious battery issues in pocket despite turning off ambient display.
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No luck . Still having serious battery issues in pocket despite turning off ambient display.
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Meh, sorry that's not the issue. In settings/battery what is listed as using the most percentage?
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Meh, sorry that's not the issue. In settings/battery what is listed as using the most percentage?
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Hey, thanks for the reply. The "Android System" app is currently listed as using 19% of my battery followed by android OS then Chrome.
Android System has a CPU Total of 1 Hr, 30 Minutes, 34 minutes of keep awake and 800 mAh computer power use.
My screen has been on for 13 minutes and is computed as using 42 mAh.
This is all only 6 hours after taking my phone off the charger.
Thanks.
ericvolp12 said:
Hey, thanks for the reply. The "Android System" app is currently listed as using 19% of my battery followed by android OS then Chrome.
Android System has a CPU Total of 1 Hr, 30 Minutes, 34 minutes of keep awake and 800 mAh computer power use.
My screen has been on for 13 minutes and is computed as using 42 mAh.
This is all only 6 hours after taking my phone off the charger.
Thanks.
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Here are images for reference of my battery usage today: https://goo.gl/photos/2XXCCkonFYMUn2Nx9
ericvolp12 said:
Here are images for reference of my battery usage today: https://goo.gl/photos/2XXCCkonFYMUn2Nx9
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There's a lot of processes covered under Android System. I would start with location services by switching them to off for at least a day.
Jammol said:
There's a lot of processes covered under Android System. I would start with location services by switching them to off for at least a day.
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Location services have been off since I got the phone. I only turn them on when needed for maps.

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