Hello, I have a question, I have a Moto G4 XT1621, which in STOCK works correctly and smoothly, but when installing a CUSTOM ROM, a LAG and an intense BATTERY DRAIN is presented, I pass this with RR 7.1.2 and RR 8.1, in the same way install Mokee this worked normally, but it consumed a lot of battery, and in the three ROMS the phone was heated more than normal, now well in Kernel Auditor in the three ROMS I noticed that 3 more frequent nuclei with name "BIG", they were detained and even if they were activated they stopped again causing the above described.
My question is why and if someone else has happened to this type of problem and what solutions there are.
Like when I install a custom kernel, the cores remain deactivated and with the lowest frequency, this happens to me so much in stock with any rom
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Hello, I have a question, I have a Moto G4 XT1621, which in STOCK works correctly and smoothly, but when installing a CUSTOM ROM, a LAG and an intense BATTERY DRAIN is presented, I pass this with RR 7.1.2 and RR 8.1, in the same way install Mokee this worked normally, but it consumed a lot of battery, and in the three ROMS the phone was heated more than normal, now well in Kernel Auditor in the three ROMS I noticed that 3 more frequent nuclei with name "BIG", they were detained and even if they were activated they stopped again causing the above described.
My question is why and if someone else has happened to this type of problem and what solutions there are.
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Did u disable live display?
SD 617 is a heater and heats up a lot... only stock ROM is the coolest.. after that, i found Invicta OS. RR both nougat and oreo are good given you use Invicta/EX kernel for nougat or you use frostbitten kernel for oreo version of it. I do not remember other ROMs, since i have tried too many.
custom tweaks that you can apply are... having atleast 1 big cluster core and 1 small cluster core active, as it results in less heating, if needed you can make 1 big cluster and 2 small cluster or 2 big cluster and 0 small cluster.. find the combination that works on your phone the besT! Also, give sometime for the ROM to settle before testing for battery and heating issues!
Deactivating live display and night light on oreo ROMs result in less lag!
i have tried all the oreo roms both 64 bits and 32 bits (with and without Gapps) tried changing kernel profile to performance (also tried different kernels) as well but status bar and recents were lagging horribly and i dont know whats the reason, the only rom that ran smoothly ware Bootlegger and Aosip (but these 2 also had lags here and there sometimes)
So the we will never get a good custom rom? The phone came out 2 years ago and still no custom rom that can match or beat the stock ROM.
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So the we will never get a good custom rom? The phone came out 2 years ago and still no custom rom that can match or beat the stock ROM.
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InvictaOS was very good(better imo compared to stock) followed by official ressurection remix
Custom ROMs can not match the stability and smoothness of stock ROMs. Stock ROMs are made only for the specific device/model, hence it is perfectly tuned and optimized according to the device hardware requirement. On the other hand, custom ROMs are made universal (maintainers pick it up and compile it) which may or may not go well with your device.
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What do you think the best rom for the moto g4 plus is in terms of battery life and performance. And which rom would give the best battery life for a light user
I tried most of them, and I think stock is best.
I have my setup with magisk: systemless xposed and superuser.
using vanir, that or stock best for me.
RR 5.8.0 is very good in battery life out of the box, I'm using it for 5-7 sot for nearly 2 days(no gaming, no stream,Bluetooth, WiFi, flight mode over night)
For the simplest experience, don't look away from Stock.
Or you can go with RR 5.8.0. That's an awesome ROM for customization freaks.
I tried a few, but Resurrection Remix 5.8.0 is best so far.
Good battery life, rooted out-of-the-box, all features I tried actually worked.
I have a canadian 1641, retail, and have NOT upgraded my modem to the N version yet.
For me the rom has been xenon hd it's great has reasonable battery life around 5 hrs sot and it is smooth AF.
Stock ROM here. Stable, no issues. Systemless rooted SuperSU, added XtremeMusic mod and Dolby Atmos (same thread).
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using vanir, that or stock best for me.
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Im also using vanir but after upgrading to latest build battery draining fast.. any idea why this happening..?
Stock, Xposed, and maybe custom Kernel
I agree with stock. A little tweaking and stock is hard to beat.
Of you want a stable daily driver then stock can't be beat. Rooted makes it even better. Tried all the roms and they aren't good enough for daily drivers for me. Until an official rom, PAC was and has always been the second best to stock in my opinion.
I tried XPerience and Resurrection Remix, both for about a week, but I returned to rooted stock with ElementX kernel. That is the most stable setup I have found so far. Best battery life too.
Resurrection Remix hands down, been on it since the day it got released. Yes, it is a feature rich ROM and can let you customize in innumerable ways, and yet won't cost you in terms of performance and battery life.
Motor G4+ has official status to its RR ROM which means support from the Xda thread and RR devs as well.
Having tried quite a few Nougat ROMs on the Moto G4+ forum, can vouch for RR's stability. How about not having a single freeze, boot loop or auto restart since past two weeks I've been on it?
You can check its support thread, you'd have to look hard for reported bugs. In all the years of using custom ROMs, this ought to be one of the rare cases.
And it comes prebaked with kernel based on ElementalX, which means you get not only the kernel but can also tweak and optimize it with EX Kernel Manager, just as you'd do on stock.
As for the battery, I'm getting between 6 and 6.5 hours SOT with moderate - heavy use (streaming Spotify over VPN included)
Also, Xposed for Nougat is still nowhere in sight, which means having to wait still longer for the mods to be updated for 7.0 and 7.1. So, having a highly functional and feature rich ROM that can offer at least some of the functionality and customization of Xposed mods, is where RR wins over other custom ROMs.
Here's my current configuration on my XT1643:
RR 5.8.0 + SuperSU 2.78SR5 + ARISE Deuteronomy alpha with Dolby Atmos add on + Patched Adfree background playback YouTube + NoChromo adfree browser + Greenify Donation (sucks without xposed but nevermind)
Though I've not tried, but users confirm running (some) Substratum themes as well.
Future updates should get CMTE support as well, just in case.
I guess there's still lot more customization that can be done along with finding patched/alternative apps that Xposed mods would take care of other wise.
And yes, MotoG4+ is now officially supported for dualboot patcher, meaning you can boot into different ROMs which significantly expands scope of how you can use your device.
Lastly, all that's mentioned above is from Xda itself which means not only can you trust what you're doing to your phone, in case you do screw up you'd still have good chance to salvage yourself.
Sent from my Google Pixel XL using XDA Labs
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What do you think the best rom for the moto g4 plus is in terms of battery life and performance. And which rom would give the best battery life for a light user
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Id say stock with your criteria. I have only tried several versions of CM 14.1 myself but if I remember correctly the battery felt as if it was lasting longer on stock 6.0. The experience after dealing with several reflashes and getting used to that process is a bit hard but the system I use now feels allot faster. I can only guess that the better performance comes at the cost of battery usage.
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Resurrection Remix hands down, been on it since the day it got released. Yes, it is a feature rich ROM and can let you customize in innumerable ways, and yet won't cost you in terms of performance and battery life.
Motor G4+ has official status to its RR ROM which means support from the Xda thread and RR devs as well.
Having tried quite a few Nougat ROMs on the Moto G4+ forum, can vouch for RR's stability. How about not having a single freeze, boot loop or auto restart since past two weeks I've been on it?
You can check its support thread, you'd have to look hard for reported bugs. In all the years of using custom ROMs, this ought to be one of the rare cases.
And it comes prebaked with kernel based on ElementalX, which means you get not only the kernel but can also tweak and optimize it with EX Kernel Manager, just as you'd do on stock.
As for the battery, I'm getting between 6 and 6.5 hours SOT with moderate - heavy use (streaming Spotify over VPN included)
Also, Xposed for Nougat is still nowhere in sight, which means having to wait still longer for the mods to be updated for 7.0 and 7.1. So, having a highly functional and feature rich ROM that can offer at least some of the functionality and customization of Xposed mods, is where RR wins over other custom ROMs.
Here's my current configuration on my XT1643:
RR 5.8.0 + SuperSU 2.78SR5 + ARISE Deuteronomy alpha with Dolby Atmos add on + Patched Adfree background playback YouTube + NoChromo adfree browser + Greenify Donation (sucks without xposed but nevermind)
Though I've not tried, but users confirm running (some) Substratum themes as well.
Future updates should get CMTE support as well, just in case.
I guess there's still lot more customization that can be done along with finding patched/alternative apps that Xposed mods would take care of other wise.
And yes, MotoG4+ is now officially supported for dualboot patcher, meaning you can boot into different ROMs which significantly expands scope of how you can use your device.
Lastly, all that's mentioned above is from Xda itself which means not only can you trust what you're doing to your phone, in case you do screw up you'd still have good chance to salvage yourself.
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Thanks a lot man I have switched to RR I am not getting 6-7 hrs sot but I am getting around 5 hrs. Thanks for your detailed answer.:good:
Okay I have a question every nougat ROM I install I cannot get my hotspot to come up no problem with marshmallow
How can i install Ressurection Remix on my moto g4 plus..?? Give me a explained procedure for it
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How can i install Ressurection Remix on my moto g4 plus..?? Give me a explained procedure for it
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I guess you did not read, search and you're also rude. That's not the way you should request something on XDA.
Did you ever installed a custom rom? If not, please take your time and learn basics BEFORE going further with installing ressurection remix. Otherwise you will run into big trouble.
Ok sorry for that..?
I am gonna unlock my bootloader and flash custom rom as i need to overclock the cpu and suggestions?My.main.reason for that is games.coz after 5 mins of gaming the game starts to lag but for starting 5 mins its smooth.
You can try some light and smooth ROMs like Invicta, AICP and use the ElemenentalX kernel. (LineageOS base)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/development/kernel-elementalx-g4-0-01-t3424836
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You can try some light and smooth ROMs like Invicta, AICP and use the ElemenentalX kernel. (LineageOS base)
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Invicta's desclaimer says no to elemenatal x,moreover any tips for overclocking?
Don't use custom roms, IMO all based on Lineage have issues. Use stock ROM, EX kernel (with a kernel manager), root with SuperSU beta, not the normal one, see the threads here.
Also, gaming will overheat any device, do you have a case on your phone? That impedes the heat transfer and overheats the CPU, kills the battery...
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Don't use custom roms, IMO all based on Lineage have issues. Usu stock ROM, EX kernel, root with SuperSU beta, not the normal one, see the threads here.
Also, gaming will overheat any device, do you have a case on your phone? That impedes the heat transfer and overheats the CPU, kills the battery...
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Thanks,so i won't​ flash custom rom (i agree with u)i play with case removed,also another reason i am eager for ex kernal is.that i have image retention problem so i have to lower the rgb values too.i just do short gaming of 15-20 mins and i want that to be good.currently it starts disappointing me after 5 mins.Moreover my friends k6 power which has SD425 runs game more smoothly...thats a 9k phone while i have a 16k phone.
I started having retention after the Nougat update. Coincidence? Maybe. Putting the RGB values to 240 on all channels fixed it and is not visible any difference from 256.
I don't game, but setting the default minimum BigCPU number to one instead of two (busy down at 33% and busy up at 68%) helped my phone to be cold permanently. Interactive governor.
Its been a long time since I've flashed anything on my pure ( I think it's on a slightly tweaked stock marshmallow rom now), and looking around I can't seem to find a recommended rom.
What would you all suggest as the current most stable and fully functional roms and tweaks that I should be looking for?
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Its been a long time since I've flashed anything on my pure ( I think it's on a slightly tweaked stock marshmallow rom now), and looking around I can't seem to find a recommended rom.
What would you all suggest as the current most stable and fully functional roms and tweaks that I should be looking for?
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I recommend updating to stock nougat and flashing the system with SuperSu for root. It's the most stable rom and I get a solid four hours of battery life. Lineage OS has bugs with sound and the audio effects aren't as good. Also Lineage OS has a battery profile I figured out that Stock has one like that but it functions dynamically as the battery life drops the clock speeds automatically reduce and cores turn off but on Lineage based roms if you leave it on balanced it'll drain the battery faster but if you put it on power save you'll struggle with lag and get the same battery life as stock. If you take my advice I don't recommend changing anything in the kernel except the I/0 schedular I set mine to ROW instead of CFQ and apps open faster. Another thing with stock roms don't try changing the partition format in TWRP that'll make it bootloop some people like to set their cache to f2fs and Magisk causes bootloops that's another issue with stock.
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Its been a long time since I've flashed anything on my pure ( I think it's on a slightly tweaked stock marshmallow rom now), and looking around I can't seem to find a recommended rom.
What would you all suggest as the current most stable and fully functional roms and tweaks that I should be looking for?
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I tried everything, but pretty much exclusively used AICP when I had this phone
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I tried everything, but pretty much exclusively used AICP when I had this phone
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Is that Android Ice Cold Project? If so, after looking it up, only see for the Moto G5. Guess they stopped for the Moto X Pure?
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Is that Android Ice Cold Project? If so, after looking it up, only see for the Moto G5. Guess they stopped for the Moto X Pure?
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They haven't released anything new for the pure/style since nougat, and old builds have been shuffled off their website. Look at the last few pages of this thread. Some users mirrored the last builds after the downloads disappeared. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/development/rom-aicp-clark-xt1575-t3222868
My pure died a little over a year ago, but at that time aicp was the best rom. The newer custom roms all seem to have some camera issues. The builds of aicp that are available do require the marshmallow modem stack.
Hello everyone,
I'm using a 2gb Redmi 3s and running Pixel Reloaded pie ROM. Which kernel would you suggest me to flash?
Also can I flash the kernel now without formatting or re flashing the ROM?
I was looking at Chimera, anything better than it for gaming plus a bit good battery backup?
I am running LOS 15.1 based e/ OS on my 2GB variant(because of less RAM consumption). The stock kernel is very barebones and doesn't expose much features to the user. I flashed Chimaera and it works well. Battery backup,performance and idle drain , everything is A-OK.
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I am running LOS 15.1 based e/ OS on my 2GB variant(because of less RAM consumption). The stock kernel is very barebones and doesn't expose much features to the user. I flashed Chimaera and it works well. Battery backup,performance and idle drain , everything is A-OK.
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Have you used any Pie ROM which worked well on 2gb variant with enough free RAM?
I tried most of them and they only let around 200 mb RAM free...
LOS 16 + Magisk + FDE.ai
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Have you used any Pie ROM which worked well on 2gb variant with enough free RAM?
I tried most of them and they only let around 200 mb RAM free...
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Among Pie ROMs, I have only tried AEX 6.7. It used 1.3-1.4GB RAM after fresh boot, all stock, no GApps. LOS by e/ foundation (with microG integrated ) averages only around 800-850MB leaving almost a gigabyte available for use. Multi-tasking is now viable once again. Land is my secondary device but it still wasn't a pleasant experience with Pie ROMs. I have also flashed the low RAM enabler patch.
P.S. Carbon Oreo uses 1-1.1GB RAM reportedly.
Oh and have you tried Hyper kernel which was updated very recently? Officially only compatible with P/Q but it worked well in O. But since exFAT support seemed to be missing I switched over to Chimaera.
Thanks to both of you. I will try both of the ROMS as suggested by both of you ASAP.
Once again, thanks to help me..
After using Chimaera kernel for almost a month I can now say that it excels when it comes to idle drain. Mostly 0.2-0.3%/h. Many a times goes below 0.1%/h. Active drain is decent and on par with stock LOS kernel 8-10%/h. General performance is as good as can be expected. No bugs so far.
Oh and here's the link to e/ OS for land in case you are interested
https://doc.e.foundation/devices/land/install
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Hello everyone,
I'm using a 2gb Redmi 3s and running Pixel Reloaded pie ROM. Which kernel would you suggest me to flash?
Also can I flash the kernel now without formatting or re flashing the ROM?
I was looking at Chimera, anything better than it for gaming plus a bit good battery backup?
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I think stock kernels is good nowadays ( android 9/10 ) since 3.18.x kernel isnt get any update/upstream by linux ( EOL ), so we cant expect any custom kernel update
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Have you used any Pie ROM which worked well on 2gb variant with enough free RAM?
I tried most of them and they only let around 200 mb RAM free...
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Use nicheream's lineage os it has Linux 4.9 kernel and 700-800 mb free ram on 2gb model it's the smoothest rom for this device.
I'm having havoc OS 3.6, android 10, can I change the kernel for better battery performance and which one do you suggest?
I'm trying to flash a kernel (chimera) with twrp 3.2.2.0 on my 3s but, i have havoc os rom 3.6 with sd card as internal storage, so when i try to flash anything, twrp cant see internal storage (0MB) - I/O error...
Is there a way of bypassing this problem without formating everything?
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I'm trying to flash a kernel (chimera) with twrp 3.2.2.0 on my 3s but, i have havoc os rom 3.6 with sd card as internal storage, so when i try to flash anything, twrp cant see internal storage (0MB) - I/O error...
Is there a way of bypassing this problem without formating everything?
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Chimaera isn't officially supported on Android 10 ROMs.
Your recovery is really old. Latest is 3.4.0 R3. Flash the latest TWRP/Orange Fox(I use this) /Pitch Black Recovery etc.
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Chimaera isn't officially supported on Android 10 ROMs.
Your recovery is really old. Latest is 3.4.0 R3. Flash the latest TWRP/Orange Fox(I use this) /Pitch Black Recovery etc.
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I took this screenshot showing havoc os 3.6 with chimera kernel.
1. Was this kernel the default kernel on havoc, or have i somehow managed to flash it?
2. Suddenly double tap stopped waking the device, could this be a result of flashing chimera kernel (in case this wasn't the default kernel)?
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I took this screenshot showing havoc os 3.6 with chimera kernel.
1. Was this kernel the default kernel on havoc, or have i somehow managed to flash it?
2. Suddenly double tap stopped waking the device, could this be a result of flashing chimera kernel (in case this wasn't the default kernel)?
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That's strange because AFAIK Chimaera isn't the stock kernel in Havoc Q. Also Chimaera supports DT2W. Use any kernel manager to activate it. If using Franco Kernel Manager check under Kernel settings>Miscellaneous, in Smartpack/Darkness kernel mgr. under Wake Gestures etc.
And you really need to update the recovery if you haven't already. It will solve the issue of not being able to handle encrypted partitions. Plus the ability to deal with ROMs with 4.9 kernel.
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That's strange because AFAIK Chimaera isn't the stock kernel in Havoc Q. Also Chimaera supports DT2W. Use any kernel manager to activate it. If using Franco Kernel Manager check under Kernel settings>Miscellaneous, in Smartpack/Darkness kernel mgr. under Wake Gestures etc.
And you really need to update the recovery if you haven't already. It will solve the issue of not being able to handle encrypted partitions. Plus the ability to deal with ROMs with 4.9 kernel.
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1. Is there a way of returning to havoc's default kernel back again without loosing apps n' settings? (I couldn't back up at twrp because of the old version...).
2. Are there any roms now that use kernel 4.9?
You've been very helpful so far! Thank you very much!
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1. Is there a way of returning to havoc's default kernel back again without loosing apps n' settings? (I couldn't back up at twrp because of the old version...).
2. Are there any roms now that use kernel 4.9?
You've been very helpful so far! Thank you very much!
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If you have the original ROM zip just extract the boot.img from it and flash it in recovery while choosing the partition type as "boot" when asked.
There are more than a few kernels running 4.9. LOS 17.1 unofficial, Corvus OS latest, Pixel-Reloaded latest etc. with more expected to follow. All are Q ROMs. There was even earlier one, LOS 16 by nichcream who was in fact the first to bring 4.9 kernel for land. But it was closed source. The recent release OTOH is open source. Performance wise reportedly pretty good but idle drain is quite high for now.
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If you have the original ROM zip just extract the boot.img from it and flash it in recovery while choosing the partition type as "boot" when asked.
There are more than a few kernels running 4.9. LOS 17.1 unofficial, Corvus OS latest, Pixel-Reloaded latest etc. with more expected to follow. All are Q ROMs. There was even earlier one, LOS 16 by nichcream who was in fact the first to bring 4.9 kernel for land. But it was closed source. The recent release OTOH is open source. Performance wise reportedly pretty good but idle drain is quite high for now.
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Can i flash one of those kernels as you described instead of havoc's kernel or it would be a hassle in terms of factionality?
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Can i flash one of those kernels as you described instead of havoc's kernel or it would be a hassle in terms of factionality?
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No. 4.9 kernels can only work in ROMs that shipped with the same.
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Can i flash one of those kernels as you described instead of havoc's kernel or it would be a hassle in terms of factionality?
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Fixing high idle drain with Chimaera? Its true that Chimaera is very good in that aspect but its active drain is a bit high. LOS 16 Official is pretty good in both aspects but very little in the way of customization. I use the stock LOS kernel in AEX 6.7 for now. Battery backup is pretty good although idle drain at 0.8%/h is higher than in the LOS ROM itself.
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No. 4.9 kernels can only work in ROMs that shipped with the same.
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Fixing high idle drain with Chimaera? Its true that Chimaera is very good in that aspect but its active drain is a bit high. LOS 16 Official is pretty good in both aspects but very little in the way of customization. I use the stock LOS kernel in AEX 6.7 for now. Battery backup is pretty good although idle drain at 0.8%/h is higher than in the LOS ROM itself.
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Yes! I tried lineage 17.1, pixel experience plus and now havoc 3.6. I liked very much havoc with its customisation aspects but for some strange reason in my case it uses a lot of battery even at sleep mode. So i thought maybe i can use a deferent kernel...
Is aosp anywhere near havoc's customizing? I'm using the phone as primary, trying to revive it!
I want customisation ability and battery life, I don't play games, any suggestions?
Thanks again!
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Yes! I tried lineage 17.1, pixel experience plus and now havoc 3.6. I liked very much havoc with its customisation aspects but for some strange reason in my case it uses a lot of battery even at sleep mode. So i thought maybe i can use a deferent kernel...
Is aosp anywhere near havoc's customizing? I'm using the phone as primary, trying to revive it!
I want customisation ability and battery life, I don't play games, any suggestions?
Thanks again!
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AEX has a good deal of customization (otherwise I wouldn't be using it!) but not as much as Havoc. I think the battery is either degraded or in need of calibration as I have had inconsistent results. Yesterday I could have achieved 12 hour SoT(purely web browsing with a little TElegram) but today it would struggle to breach 7-8 hours. Battery percentage occasionally doesn't budge at all for a long while but at other times it will drop few points within minutes. That being said with LOS kernel in AEX battery life is still decent. Accubattery estimates SoT at over 9 hours. YMMV.
Recently my phone broke. I found my old S5 (G900M, Snapdragon) in the garage and installed Lineage on it.
I'm pretty sure there's something terribly wrong with the battery. In use, it goes from 100% to 0% in an hour, and a bunch of apps have glitches. Not to mention that it's slow when browsing with FIrefox, and it likes to crash Firefox a lot.
So, I'm hoping that changing roms will make it better in some way.
But I also didn't do any research before installing Lineage, and I didn't install any kernel. I just installed Lineage because it's the one I know, I don't even know if running a newer android version and/or AOSP rom has advantages or disadvantages.
In an old thread, I heard that a stock, deodexed and debloated MM rom and the Boeffla kernel is the best way to go, and I had my eye on vincom's SuperLite MM Rom (still no idea on what kernel to use),
But I'd really like to have TwiFucker and I THINK it only supports LSposed, which requires Android 8.1 minimum.
I'm also used to having Magisk as the root, but that's a minor issue.
I'm accepting any and all suggestions, even if it's to stay on Lineage.
I'm also accepting suggestions of what governor to use, although I don't know what that is at all.
Please do link your recommendations though.
Thank you in advance!