Yup..Not going Oreo - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

This whole forum is now just people complaining about how Oreo wrecked their S8's. I'm on TMO with an S8+ and I've wanted Oreo for some time but after seeing all this, I'm going to wait a few months and let the bugs get worked out. What a disaster.

Thanks for sharing. What are you having for diner tonight?
And oh, what is you favorite color?

ike_1985 said:
This whole forum is now just people complaining about how Oreo wrecked their S8's. I'm on TMO with an S8+ and I've wanted Oreo for some time but after seeing all this, I'm going to wait a few months and let the bugs get worked out. What a disaster.
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Im on oreo fpr a while now, I don't really see any groundbracking positive changes, but I didn't have a single problem with the rom which i could blame completely on oreo. Of course some fc here and some compatibility issues there.
What I want to say is that I really do not have had any problems with oreo and at some of the problems the only thing possible is to blame the user.

jaannnis said:
Im on oreo fpr a while now, I don't really see any groundbracking positive changes, but I didn't have a single problem with the rom which i could blame completely on oreo. Of course some fc here and some compatibility issues there.
What I want to say is that I really do not have had any problems with oreo and at some of the problems the only thing possible is to blame the user.
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Well, for a system that didn't introduce any big changes, at least they could've made sure that it doesn't bring new bugs. FC-s, lagging apps and other bugs shouldn't be happening on a system that's been trough such a extensive beta testing period, and it has even been paused for a week for being unstable.
I consider myself a very cautious and well trained user, and for me the oreo is just... unfinished. Still looks rushed even after so much waiting.
So I totally agree with OP. Don't update to oreo if U ask me Nougat has everything we need and doesn't come with bugs in the package.

I am on oreo on an S8+, and I have to say, that you are wildly overreacting. It has absolutely 0 issues for me. I don't know what you have read, but for the majority of people, it works perfectly. Samsung has not spent the last 6 months sitting around on their heels, they have been testing and validating TW on oreo.
Let me make it perfectly clear for you.
Number of FCs on Oreo: 0
Number of laggy apps on Oreo: 0
Number of crashes on Oreo: 0
Battery performance on Oreo > Battery performance on N
So I have to completely disagree with your overreaction.

ike_1985 said:
This whole forum is now just people complaining about how Oreo wrecked their S8's. I'm on TMO with an S8+ and I've wanted Oreo for some time but after seeing all this, I'm going to wait a few months and let the bugs get worked out. What a disaster.
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Oh, I'm so happy for you.
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Of course they are. It's a forum! Oreo has made my device feel like a new christmas present! I've had a couple small issues that I worked out but I would much rather be on Oreo. And also yes why did you need to announce that you aren't going to update?

ike_1985 said:
I'm going to wait a few months and let the bugs get worked out. What a disaster.
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Tell me about it, oreo was so bad not only did i downgrade, but i downgrade to marshmallow, take that samsung!

peachpuff said:
Tell me about it, oreo was so bad not only did i downgrade, but i downgrade to marshmallow, take that samsung!
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Bad decision mate. I suggest you go crazy and slap ice cream sandwich:laugh:

andy_n_ said:
I am on oreo on an S8+, and I have to say, that you are wildly overreacting. It has absolutely 0 issues for me. I don't know what you have read, but for the majority of people, it works perfectly. Samsung has not spent the last 6 months sitting around on their heels, they have been testing and validating TW on oreo.
Let me make it perfectly clear for you.
Number of FCs on Oreo: 0
Number of laggy apps on Oreo: 0
Number of crashes on Oreo: 0
Battery performance on Oreo > Battery performance on N
So I have to completely disagree with your overreaction.
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I have updated 48 hours ago. Everything seemed fine at the beginning as I wasn't using the phone too much, then I started seeing the danger, crashes every now and then, lags all around, freezes.. what else? I know that 50% of these issues are related to some apps needing updates "maybe" like the WhatsApp attachment crash (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/s8-oreo-update-whatsapp-stopped-crash-t3766697) which has been bugging me out a lot!
Other issues are Samsung's fault for sure, the device is kinda useless now if I compare it to how it has been on Nougat unfortunately.

How many of you that are having issues have done a factory reset and or wiped cache from within the bootloader?

No problems with Oreo so far. Everything works great!
Take note that:
a) I use Nova Prime launcher so i don't know if the stock Samsung launcher has problems.
b) I don't use the stock Samsung apps (dialer, sms, mail, notes and etc) except from Samsung browser which works great.
c) I did a factory reset after the installation of Oreo.

ike_1985 said:
This whole forum is now just people complaining about how Oreo wrecked their S8's. I'm on TMO with an S8+ and I've wanted Oreo for some time but after seeing all this, I'm going to wait a few months and let the bugs get worked out. What a disaster.
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I really don't think it's this whole forum at all lol. People who complain are just louder than people who are content.
I got the update on my Verizon S8+ 5 days ago. I notice absolutely nothing negative about it. Battery still sucks, but no worse than Nougat. The phone feels much faster, picture and picture is awesome, the new emojis are great, using GIFS and Bitmoji from the Google keyboard now works, Google assistant now works while the screen is off, among a lot of other updates. I see zero reason to stick with Nougat.
I've cleared my cache, too, so maybe that helps any potential issues I'm unaware of. I'm considering a factory wipe to see if the battery does improve, but since it isn't worse from the update, I'm not in as much of a rush. I also always use Nova Launcher so idk if people have been having issues with Samsung's default home screen.

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Poll - are you happy with (Samsung) 4.3?

4.3 is now rolling in a number of countries for Vodafone-branded i9300 but I talked to some of my friends and everybody on stock getting it told me they are very disappointed - to the point where it was even suggested it was only done to push people to buy the S4 :laugh:
LOL. Where is the Poll
And for your information, yes i am.
Right. A poll thread without the actual poll xD. But to answer your question... for me I'm not that disappointed because I'm in no rush to update just because there's an update. People just expected something from Samsung's firmware updates for the S3 since it's still the best selling flagship phone from them but in that Samsung failed hence people now switching to Nexus devices. I can't really blame those people though because my next smartphone will no longer be Samsung but a Nexus device. So basically I'm not happy with Samsung's handling of updates not with their devices itself
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Now I see the poll
At last we are getting 4.3 :good:
As posted fools rush in where wise men fear to tread .
Others can beta test for me ,
All that wait for nothing whats new and full of lag 4.3 is crap
my vote for android 4.3 :good:
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my vote for android 4.3 :good:
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We have waited a lot of time, when it was the time for 4.2.2 update, they skipped a whole android version "to focus on a better 4.3" , now they release this total crap with a tremendous wake lag, not even showing the sender of the message. It's not an UPGRADE, it's a DOWNGRADE.
They don't even care of the problems, and continue to release this **** all over the countries!!!
Shame on Samsung for their tremendous work and indifference,
Next will be a Nexus
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We have waited a lot of time, when it was the time for 4.2.2 update, they skipped a whole android version "to focus on a better 4.3" , now they release this total crap with a tremendous wake lag, not even showing the sender of the message. It's not an UPGRADE, it's a DOWNGRADE.
They don't even care of the problems, and continue to release this **** all over the countries!!!
Shame on Samsung for their tremendous work and indifference,
Next will be a Nexus
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Actually there is a setting in messages for that. Just pointing that out?
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I´m not happy with 4.3 and switched back to 4.1.2 - but I hope there will be an update soon without all that bugs.
I made the mistake of upgrading to 4.2.2 leak without a previous nandroid. I was having so much problems and was really happy when 4.3 leak came out. But the deep sleep problems plus constant freezes continued. (I didn't want to go through a data wipe and reconfig).
installing yank's kernel didn't help much.
It was only when I installed wanamlite and yank that I regained the stability and battery I once had in 4.1.2. Should´ve waited more...
Hi All,
Yes, I'm happy.
But just after install a Custom Kernel. In the case Yank.555 kernel.
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Was hoping for 3.4 kernel, disappointed
I surprisingly checked for an update last night (11th nov) and to my surprise it started to download ota 4.3.
It's now 24 hrs later and im really really fed up with it.
This wake screen caper that everyone's talking about is no joke. Its horrendous.
This coupled with the fact that the android os has used 40% oc ths battey today and the screen has used 31%!!!!!! I just canr believe it. That they would release such a carp firmware.
I used to flash alot of sonys in the past but have never delved into Samsung flashing before as ive heard lots can go wrong and im at my teathers end because I like all of you need my phone for work.
im desperate to change back tonight but need to find my uk unbranded fw first and then learn how to do it . Ive heard a lot of people losing their imei whilst rolling back so im just stuck
every app lags
the whole design of it just sucks really
Updated ota last night on BTU. Lock screen a bit laggy but on the whole not too bad. After all it is 4.3, I'm sure all will be good on 4.3.1 or .2 or .3........
Just ordered Nexus 5. Sorry Samsung, great phone but tooooo slow with updates.....
Sometimes upto 10 seconds wakeup lag, a lot of apps are slow to startup, my saved words in predictive text have erased theirself twice, don't know about others but multi window won't work at all and has huge lag at doing basically anything...
So yeah I'd say I'm not happy and is by far the worst update I've seen on S3, So I'm going back to 4.1.2
Let's check it all out for myself and out of curiousity, and give a DECENT feedback on 4.3..
For those who are NOT happy, maybe try a custom ROM and kernel? I've found it provides more than you could need for daily use!! And with 4.4 development coming up, forget about stock sammy! :laugh:
Other than the very slightly improved multitasking (still pretty garbage), the experience has never been so laggy. What a useless update, looks like Samsung didn't try to even fix the fundamental problem of the s3, and it's actually laughable when a quad core cpu phone manages to lag thus badly.
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Keyboard bug!
Do not update ....4.3 is seriously buggy the keyboard crashes the phone when i long press on a button :crying:

T-Mobile 5.0 Update Rush

Hey guys are we really rushing lollipop on T-mobile. With all these US carriers talking about bugs in the latest version why would we even want it right now. 5.0 No 5.1 YES. I have a great running 5.0 rom running now but yes the battery isn't that great, yes it's gets hot, yes it takes longer to boot, yes my LTE is spotty at times, yes my WiFi isn't as strong at kit Kat. Am I alone on this one? Read the below article. The U.S. carriers isn't the only ones with the problem.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm
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Hey guys are we really rushing lollipop on T-mobile. With all these US carriers talking about bugs in the latest version why would we even want it right now. 5.0 No 5.1 YES. I have a great running 5.0 rom running now but yes the battery isn't that great, yes it's gets hot, yes it takes longer to boot, yes my LTE is spotty at times, yes my WiFi isn't as strong at kit Kat. Am I alone on this one? Read the below article. The U.S. carriers isn't the only ones with the problem.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm
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IBTL:highfive:
I like cheese.
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
Most of these articles make me like tmo even more. I can wait for greatness. I think sprint use to watch xda closely because some how after every update leak that had problems and xda devs fixed them sprint would release a newer update with those problems gone lol gotta love xda
racer83l said:
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
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Flash Dynamic Pop or Dynamic Kat and it'll change your mind about the phone.
I have been using the unmodified port of SM-N910W8 Lollipop firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...t-unmodified-port-sm-n910w8-lollipop-t3072920) for a while now and it has made my phone better. That said i rather wait for the tmo version without bugs instead of right now and render my phone unusable. Also there are many 5.0 roms already out which are infinite better than anything tmo can ever gives us .
racer83l said:
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
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Bad camera??? Laggy??? I dunno what phone you're using, but my Note 4 has an AWESOME camera and is faster/smoother than anything I've ever used before. Are you you running straight stock with no root, mods, etc?
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
mgbotoe said:
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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I agree. Samsung should not push lollipop to anyphones unless google irons out all the bugs. Right now 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 is out for most. But why not wait for stable OS from google as nexus users will be the testers for us.
Also samsung needs to do lot of testing on stable OS from google because of TW skin
topgun303 said:
I agree. Samsung should not push lollipop to anyphones unless google irons out all the bugs. Right now 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 is out for most. But why not wait for stable OS from google as nexus users will be the testers for us.
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To be fair it's not like Apple and Microsoft put out perfect OS's right out of the box. Granted Apple is a different model but software is software, at some point the decision has to be made to release, bugs and all.
I have become so used to cm12 and now 12.1 and very happy that honestly dont see myself bothering with the official when ever its released
I like orange peanuts. ....oh and I'm loving the modified Canadian Lollipop port!
OTA
I spoke with my friend who works for TMO he told me that they had been testing show failed it has reported back to Samsung takes little longer. He thinks it will release out in late summer. I am disappointed. I wish I had kept note 3 (N900T)
holywhitebread said:
Flash Dynamic Pop or Dynamic Kat and it'll change your mind about the phone.
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Very true statement here... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :good::good::good:
Suzook1 said:
I have become so used to cm12 and now 12.1 and very happy that honestly dont see myself bothering with the official when ever its released
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Is Bluetooth working on it? 12.1 I mean also how's the battery. .last I tried it sucked bad
I agree with a lot of what was said here, but if you're on XDA, why not root and flash a custom ROM if you're unhappy with your phone? I've tried at least 4 ROMs for the Note 4 (and many more with the Note 3) and have found at least a couple are almost perfect and most have been far superior to stock in every way. And I'm just talking about normal performance; with root you also have the ability to add and subtract apps and features and theme your device and truly make it yours. With a custom ROM and all the options and performance root brings, we really won't need to update for years from the current OS. But if Samsung would lighten up TouchWiz, the updates would come faster.
mgbotoe said:
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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G4???? Lmao
BAD ASS NOTE 4
So some people are not happy and wish to stay with their old phones or even want to sell the note because an incremental update is late. LOL, that's f**king absurd.
BACARDILIMON said:
G4???? Lmao
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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Haha u getting it?!?! That camera!

To Update or Not!

Hi guys!
Just wanted a few suggestions. I have a SM-G935FD and currently running G935FXXU1BPH firmware. Some time ago I had received the OTA update for BPIO. Am still wondering if one should update the phone or not. I am happy with my current setup and battery life, and historically whenever I have updated samsung phones they have led to some or the other bugs and poorer battery life. The only compelling reason is the security patches. What is the view of people out here? Can one continue to use his phone as stock always if he is happy with the performance or should you always do the OTA updates?
I think, if you happy with current version and the next version doesn't has useful features(read update change log) then you should keep it.
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The update changelog usually don't say anything. It is just a "standard" text to inform you that the update MAY contain security updates, fixes or new features. You never don't know exactly what is changed or added...not from that log anyways. Best thing is to check over the Internet by the update code to find a detailed changelog but that's also hard to find.
I would advice to update tho, regardless of your past experiences. Most of the time updates contain bug fixes and/or security patches and they are also incremental. That means that, even if you don't update now, at some point, when a big update will come containing new features for ex, you'll want to upgrade. And that update will contain also previously skipped updates. Nobody tries to ruin your end user experience, especially on a high end phone like this and for sure they have a high quality control in place. But as everyone knows, there are bugs and flaws that could cause issues in some specific cases.
On S6 Edge and my current S7 Edge I had several updates and none brought me an issue...so go ahead.
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Perosnally I don't understand why you wouldn't update.
I'm on 1BPH and no updates available at the moment.. Haven't had an update since I've had the phone
Received mine several days ago,haven't had an update.
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The update changelog usually don't say anything. You never don't know exactly what is changed or added...not from that log anyways. Best thing is to check over the Internet by the update code to find a detailed changelog but that's also hard to find.
I would advice to update tho, regardless of your past experiences. .
On S6 Edge and my current S7 Edge I had several updates and none brought me an issue...so go ahead.
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Perosnally I don't understand why you wouldn't update.
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Well the only reason I don't feel like updating is that I have the mortal fear of bugs and bad battery life. In all previous experiences with android, updates mostly gave issues (mostly used Samsung and LG). Also its so difficult to know what are the changes being made.
We have no way to know that companies are actually injecting bugs to reduce battery or performance once their next flagship phones are out! So that customers are compelled to upgrade! Infact so many of friends and family have given this opinion that android phones don't last. After a year or too it becomes buggy or slow. Whereas look at apple my Ipad 2 still gets updates and battery is phenomenal!
I know most of what I am saying may be more of hunch but that's the reason I was wondering what others think about it...
Smith 001 said:
Received mine several days ago,haven't had an update.
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As long as it runs good don't worry. You may have got an already updated phone
alok_dhawal said:
As long as it runs good don't worry. You may have got an already updated phone
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Simply put, it is a gamble. Ask anyone who had the phone in March, then updated to April and got Android System drain and 6-7 hour SOT down to 4-5 lol. There is a 200+ page thread and the only known thing in there is that Samsung update on the S7 series have made battery life dog poop (compared to what it used to be).
Even those who claim great battery life, would have more if they flashed March firmware again. I flashed the most recent update and it was OK. Nothing special. Went back to March though, battery took a massive hit. I'd say stay where you are if things are running smoothly. I ain't updating till Nougat or till they fix Android System burning through 20-30% of the battery.
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Simply put, it is a gamble. Ask anyone who had the phone in March, then updated to April and got Android System drain and 6-7 hour SOT down to 4-5 lol. There is a 200+ page thread and the only known thing in there is that Samsung update on the S7 series have made battery life dog poop (compared to what it used to be).
Even those who claim great battery life, would have more if they flashed March firmware again. I flashed the most recent update and it was OK. Nothing special. Went back to March though, battery took a massive hit. I'd say stay where you are if things are running smoothly. I ain't updating till Nougat or till they fix Android System burning through 20-30% of the battery.
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Exactly!!!
Galactus said:
Simply put, it is a gamble. Ask anyone who had the phone in March, then updated to April and got Android System drain and 6-7 hour SOT down to 4-5 lol. There is a 200+ page thread and the only known thing in there is that Samsung update on the S7 series have made battery life dog poop (compared to what it used to be).
Even those who claim great battery life, would have more if they flashed March firmware again. I flashed the most recent update and it was OK. Nothing special. Went back to March though, battery took a massive hit. I'd say stay where you are if things are running smoothly. I ain't updating till Nougat or till they fix Android System burning through 20-30% of the battery.
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one day one charge,always on display with a pic,mostly use it at noon and evening,battery life is not so poor.
Maybe the firmware on my phone is March firmware.lol:laugh:
Galactus said:
Simply put, it is a gamble. Ask anyone who had the phone in March, then updated to April and got Android System drain and 6-7 hour SOT down to 4-5 lol. There is a 200+ page thread and the only known thing in there is that Samsung update on the S7 series have made battery life dog poop (compared to what it used to be).
Even those who claim great battery life, would have more if they flashed March firmware again. I flashed the most recent update and it was OK. Nothing special. Went back to March though, battery took a massive hit. I'd say stay where you are if things are running smoothly. I ain't updating till Nougat or till they fix Android System burning through 20-30% of the battery.
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Exactly my point. When you buy the phone you know what you are buying and what is expected. However once you update that control goes back to the supplier who may ruin or improve you experience!!
Which firmware are you referring to? Please share the link.
alok_dhawal said:
Exactly my point. When you buy the phone you know what you are buying and what is expected. However once you update that control goes back to the supplier who may ruin or improve you experience!!
Which firmware are you referring to? Please share the link.
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http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/67697/G935FXXU1APC8_G935FBTU1APB2_BTU/
This is what I use for my UK s7 edge
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Just in 7.1.1 coming to nexus 6 in January

They had a bug to fix finally...
Lenovorola mentioned this last month. Is your source different from mine (Lenovorola Germany)?
Might be AP's post - http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...7-1-1-update-will-come-nexus-6-early-january/ - they sent in a query to Google, and Google's response indicated "early Jan"
Was there ever any doubt? The Nexus 6 will get every Nougat release (7.1.1, 7.1.2, etc.). It will not, however, receive Android O.
@Candy[MAN]: It will be at Google's discretion as to whether we get an official upgrade to Android 8.0 or not. But even if we don't, ROM developers will be building from source for years to come. One way or another, this device will have Android 8.0 on it.
Never underestimate power of Nexus devices.
too little, too late. personally the only reason i bought a Nexus was to have the latest android version ALWAYS. and google has disappointed.
though im glad for drivers being available to public so we can have an arsenal of stable and functional ROMs being developed by other devs.
currently running PureNexus 7.1.1 with the middle finger help up facing google.
woomera said:
too little, too late. personally the only reason i bought a Nexus was to have the latest android version ALWAYS. and google has disappointed.
though im glad for drivers being available to public so we can have an arsenal of stable and functional ROMs being developed by other devs.
currently running PureNexus 7.1.1 with the middle finger help up facing google.
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You have the ability. The nexus line was never meant for the average person. If you cant build from source then a nexus is beyond you
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@Candy[MAN]: It will be at Google's discretion as to whether we get an official upgrade to Android 8.0 or not. But even if we don't, ROM developers will be building from source for years to come. One way or another, this device will have Android 8.0 on it.
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Exactly!! :highfive:
January images posted for every device except Nexus 6.
zelendel said:
You have the ability. The nexus line was never meant for the average person. If you cant build from source then a nexus is beyond you
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Tsk tsk. There's no room for accusations like that here. The reason I got a Nexus 6 was so that I'd have the latest stock OS without having to flash some buggy (yes, they are buggy and there are always room for screwups) ROM and worry about having an operable phone. Google has done a fine job of providing a stable experience on great hardware at low cost. This phone has been out for 2 years now. Why they can't get these Nougat updates out on time is beyond me. "Well it's the only 32-bit Nexus left" is not an excuse. Android has been built on 32-bit up until the past year or two, and 64-bit phones only became "good" in the past year. Whether the fault lies with Lenovo/Motorola or with Google, the fact is that we just don't have 7.1.x yet, and that's just an embarrassment on whoever's fault that is.
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Tsk tsk. There's no room for accusations like that here. The reason I got a Nexus 6 was so that I'd have the latest stock OS without having to flash some buggy (yes, they are buggy and there are always room for screwups) ROM and worry about having an operable phone. Google has done a fine job of providing a stable experience on great hardware at low cost. This phone has been out for 2 years now. Why they can't get these Nougat updates out on time is beyond me. "Well it's the only 32-bit Nexus left" is not an excuse. Android has been built on 32-bit up until the past year or two, and 64-bit phones only became "good" in the past year. Whether the fault lies with Lenovo/Motorola or with Google, the fact is that we just don't have 7.1.x yet, and that's just an embarrassment on whoever's fault that is.
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Well considering that what ever Google pushes can be made by syncing aosp, build it, flash it and gapps and you have the same thing Google pushed out.
The n6 is eol pretty much. So it is not a surprise that it is last.
Also yes 64 bit just started being the norm. Which means they have been working on it for all east 2 years. People seem to forget that when a device is released the oem already started work on the next device a few months prior. So in sense the brand new device you just got is already outdated as far as the maker is concerned.
Also considering that the stock update issued from Google has bricked many devices that did get it. Then by all means be in a rush.
I have been on a bugless 7.1.1 room now for weeks if not months.
zelendel said:
Well considering that what ever Google pushes can be made by syncing aosp, build it, flash it and gapps and you have the same thing Google pushed out.
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I have been on a bugless 7.1.1 room now for weeks if not months.
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Some weeks ago when i flashed PN 7.1.1, as an example, i was stuck outside of home in need of creating an hotspot and not being able to do it kicking out an error (lucky me carrying more than one phone at a time). I wouldn't call that bugless, also the battery life is worse and it tends to lag more with time.
Custom roms are nice as they are, without proper blobs there will always be "bugs", "drains", "hacks" to make it work. It's funny flashing different roms to pass time but in the end i always return to stock with a custom kernel because everything works as it should.
Google spits out bull**** every time an update is released, i would prefer them saying they would stop supporting the device than spiting out lies as they always do lately. Good guy croogle is no more.
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Some weeks ago when i flashed PN 7.1.1, as an example, i was stuck outside of home in need of creating an hotspot and not being able to do it kicking out an error. I wouldn't call that bugless, also the battery life is worse and it tends to lag more with time.
Custom roms are nice as they are, without proper blobs there will always be "bugs", "drains", "hacks" to make it work. It's funny flashing different roms to pass time but in the end i always return to stock with a custom kernel because everything works as it should.
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Can't say anything about pure nexus as I have never used it nor will I.
Of course there will always be hacks but let me let you in on something. Considering that the 7.1.1 update was made for devices with dual partitions, for them to get it to work on the older devices, n6, n6p and 5x there will be hacks to make it work directly from Google. Most likely what caused a bunch of bricks from Google ota. There was a commit just yesterday that was supposed to fix the issue a second time.
No OS is perfect. Not custom or official. They all have bugs.
zelendel said:
Well considering that what ever Google pushes can be made by syncing aosp, build it, flash it and gapps and you have the same thing Google pushed out.
The n6 is eol pretty much. So it is not a surprise that it is last.
Also yes 64 bit just started being the norm. Which means they have been working on it for all east 2 years. People seem to forget that when a device is released the oem already started work on the next device a few months prior. So in sense the brand new device you just got is already outdated as far as the maker is concerned.
Also considering that the stock update issued from Google has bricked many devices that did get it. Then by all means be in a rush.
I have been on a bugless 7.1.1 room now for weeks if not months.
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But that's the thing, it's not technically 7.1.1 without the proper driver blobs from Lenovo/Motorola, and obviously we don't have those without the official 7.1.1 update. You may have the 7.1.1 OS, but until the official 7.1.1 is released for Nexus 6, the hardware won't be any more stable than the latest official nougat we have.
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But that's the thing, it's not technically 7.1.1 without the proper driver blobs from Lenovo/Motorola, and obviously we don't have those without the official 7.1.1 update. You may have the 7.1.1 OS, but until the official 7.1.1 is released for Nexus 6, the hardware won't be any more stable than the latest official nougat we have.
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Assuming that there are significant changes in the drivers and vendor blobs from 7.0 official. Didn't seem to be from 7.0 to 7.1.
Funny we saw this same kind of bullkaka (lies) that google would keep updating our Nexus too. And we got nougat, like 3 or 4 months after they promised it. I ran the beta for a long time. Now we thought it would be 7.1.1 like the other Nexus devices that came out after ours. And not even a January patch yet. It does not take a genius to figure out that they are trying to get us to upgrade the device. I refuse to give in. I will just keep the November build and use a custom kernel and doubt I am missing any swell things.
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Google spits out bull**** every time an update is released, i would prefer them saying they would stop supporting the device than spiting out lies as they always do lately. Good guy croogle is no more.
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I just vented in the 9 forum as well, but F google here too. They suckered me in with the nexus 5 about 4 years ago as bait, great inexpensive phone I enjoyed using. It also opened up my world to sites like XDA and customizing android. I was hooked right away. So I even upgraded to the 6 and 9 when they came out expecting the same kind of experience . But now looking back I have had lie to myself about just how good the experience has been.
The 5x and 6p gave me no reason to upgrade, I was excited for the pixel line but Google seems to be taking steps to lock it all down from now on.... sooo, I'm out !
Can you point me in the direction of the nearest apple store?
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Can you point me in the direction of the nearest apple store?
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First left, second right and then its on the left side of the road.
hey guys, is it possibile that the akku and bootloop bugs from the n6p also can happen to n6??

Maybe Oreo will come today/tomorrow as build G935VVRU4CRE5

Hopefully this is for real this time and not just a tease. The S7 Edge build should be be G935VVRU4CRE5.
Verizon (again) seems to indicate it will be Oreo: https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-update/
I'm hoping it will be rootable (and stable in that rooted configuration) with the stock firmware, and that the root procedures come out soon.
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Hopefully this is for real this time and not just a tease. The S7 Edge build should be be G935VVRU4CRE5.
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NEVERMIND! Bunch of goof-off's at Verizon can't get anything right. The update was pulled. Maybe in a few more months once Android P is officially released. ??
Not sure what VZW is doing here... AA made this situation seem like they're just giving the finger to the update now, but as of 5 mins ago my S7E still shows the "You'll be one of the first to get it" screen on update check. While I'm not generally an optimist with relatively outdated devices and VZW updates, I think they made the promise (ie that screen everyone is getting) and they won't be able to pull out of it without starting fires.
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Not sure what VZW is doing here... AA made this situation seem like they're just giving the finger to the update now, but as of 5 mins ago my S7E still shows the "You'll be one of the first to get it" screen on update check. While I'm not generally an optimist with relatively outdated devices and VZW updates, I think they made the promise (ie that screen everyone is getting) and they won't be able to pull out of it without starting fires.
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Yeah I still fully believe it'll get the update, it's just a matter of when. Most likely within another month or so but perhaps longer. I'll be on new phones in August anyways though, from what I hear there's not anything too crazy about Oreo that'd I gotta have. Android P should be pretty nice though.
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Yeah I still fully believe it'll get the update, it's just a matter of when. Most likely within another month or so but perhaps longer. I'll be on new phones in August anyways though, from what I hear there's not anything to crazy about Oreo that'd I gotta have. Android P should be pretty nice though.
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Ugh I hope it's not that long of a wait. I've seen a few people around even saying 6/8 (today/tomorrow depending on your sleep schedule) or next week - but maybe that's just wishful thinking.
I bought my S7E outright, but haven't had anything launch that's made me want to dump my pockets yet -- and now we're in the awkward phase between S9 and S10, and the Note 9 doesn't look too promising, and I feel like I should wait to get something with a 5G chipset anyways... But yeah, Android P should be the #beesknees.
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Ugh I hope it's not that long of a wait. I've seen a few people around even saying 6/8 (today/tomorrow depending on your sleep schedule) or next week - but maybe that's just wishful thinking.
I bought my S7E outright, but haven't had anything launch that's made me want to dump my pockets yet -- and now we're in the awkward phase between S9 and S10, and the Note 9 doesn't look too promising, and I feel like I should wait to get something with a 5G chipset anyways... But yeah, Android P should be the #beesknees.
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LOL yeah Android P should be the bees knees! I do look forward to the major Android updates for the new api's, but usually with Samsung they already have features that vanilla Android gets later so that's why Oreo isn't as big of a deal for me. I do like project treble, but you gotta have a phone already pre loaded with it to even take advantage of it and then pray that the phone maker is looking to take advantage of it as well to get faster updates. But yeah the Note 9 seems like a decent amount of goodies will be held back for the S10. It'll still be a beast of a phone but makes me wanna hold out for the S10 even though I'll have upgrades available in August.
Is this true? https://www.sammobile.com/2018/06/07/verizon-galaxy-s7-oreo-update-rolling-out-soon
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Is this true? https://www.sammobile.com/2018/06/07/verizon-galaxy-s7-oreo-update-rolling-out-soon
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Sammobile wrote that article right before Verizon pulled the update again on Friday morning. Unfortunately they haven't updated that post to notify users that Verizon pulled the update after they wrote that article. So it makes it seem like sammobile knows it'll be released "soon". They really should update that post and notify users Verizon pulled the update after they had already written the article or just delete it until Verizon decides to actually release Oreo for the S7 and S7 Edge.
Just downloaded the Oreo update and it is installing now. The download failed 3 times before it finally successfully downloaded the file.
Mine download the first time
My phone would not ring or indicate a call was coming in. I removed the sim card, put it back in and now my phone rings ok. Must need to reset the sim card.
bad battery drainage after oreo update
My battery is draining badly since the oreo update on my Verizon sm-935V S7 Edge. I am seeing several people with the same issue. Is there any kind of fix for gbr 935V? My build is the G935VVRU4CRE5 OREO 8.0. What a disappointing piece of crap.
Mikeo31 said:
My battery is draining badly since the oreo update on my Verizon sm-935V S7 Edge. I am seeing several people with the same issue. Is there any kind of fix for gbr 935V? My build is the G935VVRU4CRE5 OREO 8.0. What a disappointing piece of crap.
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Same here - just sitting on my desk, no apps, solid wifi and has drained to 68% in about 3 hours...changed nothing since the "upgrade" to 8.0
PS also hate the stupid icon frames.
me as well.
P_M_G said:
Same here - just sitting on my desk, no apps, solid wifi and has drained to 68% in about 3 hours...changed nothing since the "upgrade" to 8.0
PS also hate the stupid icon frames.
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I have had nothing but problems. apps stoppIng dead in their tracks and battery drain. Getting worse. also in the last few days I've used over 40G of data and no proof of anything using it apps or otherwise. Good thing I'm unlimited I guess. even though I'm sure Verizon will throttle it soon.

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