Installing G4+ ROMS on regular G4 (XT1626) - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

Hi there guys!
I've been wondering if I can install G4+ roms on my xt1626 (regular G4). I know that probably someone already asked this but i couldn't find anything about it on search, so that's why i'm asking.
And if i can't, is there an explanation? Like "oh the camera modules are different" or something like that.
ty for the help ♥
OK so i feel stupid now as i found my answers, used "search all post text" with "regular g4" and ta-da, got what i needed: yes we can install G4+ ROMS on regular G4 but not all of them, so be careful.

giovannipaquier said:
Hi there guys!
I've been wondering if I can install G4+ roms on my xt1626 (regular G4). I know that probably someone already asked this but i couldn't find anything about it on search, so that's why i'm asking.
And if i can't, is there an explanation? Like "oh the camera modules are different" or something like that.
ty for the help ♥
OK so i feel stupid now as i found my answers, used "search all post text" with "regular g4" and ta-da, got what i needed: yes we can install G4+ ROMS on regular G4 but not all of them, so be careful.
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All of the ROMs for the G4+ can be flashed to the G4 too as far as I know. At least I haven't encountered any problems with my G4 on a G4+ ROM.

With my moto G4 all ROMs work fine

I have a XT1622 (Moto G4 Dual SIM) and am trying to install any Oreo-ROM on it but didn't succeeded yet. I'm always stuck in a bootloop. No matter if format system -> installing ROM -> install GApps -> reboot, full wipe -> install ROM -> install GApps -> reboot, full wipe -> wipe system -> install ROM -> install GApps -> full wipe -> reboot or any other solution. No matter if 32 or 64 bit.
That are my free time activities for three months or so. So sad...
(I'm flashing since 2007 on multiple devices, actually my XT1622 runs LOS 14.1)

Related

Anyone working on a Root?

I see theres but one root thread on this device and even that one is just for beta testing and not stable. Is there anyone working on getting this device rooted?
I haven't tested this so don't take my word on it, but a user on the Moto G4 Plus forums with a XT1622 (normal moto g4) used this guide and rooted their phone. This relies on the G4 Plus build on TWRP working on the G4 which I don't know if it does
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/root-systemless-rooting-supersu-2-74-2-t3405772
I've done it according to the indicated link and it works.
how many new features we can get after root?
libralibra said:
how many new features we can get after root?
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The same as any other phone.
Surprised nothing been out already, quite a popular and decently priced phone.... will keep my eyes open for updates

Stock Recovery and possibly Kernel for XT1621 needed

Hello! So, I'm going to update from MM to N. I have TWRP and ElementalX installed and I wondered if any of you have the flashable zips or img's of the stock Marshmallow 6.0.1 for the XT1621 or another working ver.
I know I could download the firmware and just flash the both of them but my internet is not capable of downloading large files. I want to say that I have backed up the "Boot" partition with TWRP before flashing ElementalX but I don't know if this could help. I'm sorry if these files where to be found in this forum since I can't find them.
Thank you in advance! I would love if you could help me!
EDIT: I couldn't update to Nougat officially. As I said, I used Xposed, and some other apps that modify the System Partition. I found a Lineage OS ROM that had everything I wanted, in Nougat. It's working perfectly now! The battery life is so much better! If you want a link, PM me. I'll be pleased!
Restore backup of Boot,
Download recovery from here : https://moto.shreps.fr/?dir=Moto G4 (athene)/recovery
__Madddy said:
Restore backup of Boot,
Download recovery from here : https://moto.shreps.fr/?dir=Moto G4 (athene)/recovery
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Thank you so much! Is it indifferent if I download any of the recovery_stock files? They have the same name
polykiwi316 said:
Thank you so much! Is it indifferent if I download any of the recovery_stock files? They have the same name
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They don't have same name !!
Read complete name, rotate your phone to landscape..
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They don't have same name !!
Read complete name, rotate your phone to landscape..
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I missed two digits, sorry for bothering and thank you again! Stock kernel and recovery working!
polykiwi316 said:
I missed two digits, sorry for bothering and thank you again! Stock kernel and recovery working!
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I can only stock recovery image no stock kernel.....Are those in the image
Ayan0 said:
I can only stock recovery image no stock kernel.....Are those in the image
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I'll give you my backup ASAP.
I couldn't update to the official N. I downloaded a Nougat ROM instead (lineage OS, working better than stock). If you want the link just tell me! ????
Ayan0 said:
I can only stock recovery image no stock kernel.....Are those in the image
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2roAcfgEAbxcjVpNEtzR1BKSjA
There you go!
This is for the Moto G4 I specified up there! Keep in mind this might not work in a different model, good luck! :highfive:
Dumb Question
Hello, I am new to XDA, and I've been looking all over the internet for the answer to the following question: Is the Moto G4 XT1621 same or similiar to other models on XDA? i.e, I have a Moto G4 XT1621 but all I see is ROMs for XT1641 or higher, even if they are the same. Can't even find root for this phone. I know the phone code is same (ATHENE) but I don't want to jump ahead and try and so something when I may not have the community's support for rooting, custom ROMs etc..
Can someone just help me by letting me know if flashing TWRP for Athene would work on XT1621 (RetLA, DualSIM) as it would on an XT164x etc. Thanks.
PS: if on the wrong thread please direct me to the correct one, there's not much info on the main G4 Menu...
mgk3431 said:
Hello, I am new to XDA, and I've been looking all over the internet for the answer to the following question: Is the Moto G4 XT1621 same or similiar to other models on XDA? i.e, I have a Moto G4 XT1621 but all I see is ROMs for XT1641 or higher, even if they are the same. Can't even find root for this phone. I know the phone code is same (ATHENE) but I don't want to jump ahead and try and so something when I may not have the community's support for rooting, custom ROMs etc..
Can someone just help me by letting me know if flashing TWRP for Athene would work on XT1621 (RetLA, DualSIM) as it would on an XT164x etc. Thanks.
PS: if on the wrong thread please direct me to the correct one, there's not much info on the main G4 Menu...
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It will work just fine, the process for flashing TWRP is the same for all xt16xx models.
After flashing TWRP you can flash a custom kernel like ex kernel and root your phone using any method for it.
Take a look over here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3587918
Enviado desde mi Moto G⁴ #StayUnbeaten
syverman said:
It will work just fine, the process for flashing TWRP is the same for all xt16xx models.
After flashing TWRP you can flash a custom kernel like ex kernel and root your phone using any method for it.
Take a look over here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3587918
Enviado desde mi Moto G⁴ #StayUnbeaten
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Thank you! I haven't rooted or flashed anything yet on my Xt1621, as I got a XT1687 and got to play with it.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus (XT1687)
✓ PureExperience 8.1.0
✓ Cricket Wireless LTE
✓ TWRP 3.2.0
on TapaTalk

Apps and OS suggestions?

Hi, and thanx for the chance to introduce myself. My name is Tom and I've only just realized that anyone can make modifications to their Android phone. I found XDA when I googled a search for how to jailbreak my Verizon Moto Z Play, I take it from reading posts that unlocking it is not possible yet. (Hopefully soon).
For now I am using an XT1607 Moto G4 Play which I bought with the SIM unlocked and I've also Unlocked the bootloader. I'm looking forward to developing my own apps,
but for now I'm wondering what modifications would be recommended for the Moto G4? I'm not familiar with the various firmware and software modifications and though I've found some apps to add, I would welcome suggestions for those as well.
Thanx, and Semper Fi to any of my USMC brothers
Tom
tca0218 said:
Hi, and thanx for the chance to introduce myself. My name is Tom and I've only just realized that anyone can make modifications to their Android phone. I found XDA when I googled a search for how to jailbreak my Verizon Moto Z Play, I take it from reading posts that unlocking it is not possible yet. (Hopefully soon).
For now I am using an XT1607 Moto G4 Play which I bought with the SIM unlocked and I've also Unlocked the bootloader. I'm looking forward to developing my own apps,
but for now I'm wondering what modifications would be recommended for the Moto G4? I'm not familiar with the various firmware and software modifications and though I've found some apps to add, I would welcome suggestions for those as well.
Thanx, and Semper Fi to any of my USMC brothers
Tom
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After unlocking your device, one of the first things you'd want to do is install a Custom Recovery like TWRP or CMD. I use TWRP. You can search four your device and download the correct file here: https://twrp.me/Devices/
This will allow you to create backups of your system, install Custom Roms (modified OS), give you root access and install modified apps, to name some things.
So once you installed a custom recovery, you might want to try a cusrom rom. They offer some great extra features. Just make sure to create a full backup (also called "nandroid") in TWRP before, just in case something goes wrong.
One of the most popular, stable and fluid ones is LineageOS: https://download.lineageos.org . It hasn't got so many extra features but works great!
An other good rom for what I've heared is InvictaOS. It's a bit more customizable than lineage and works great as well.
An other good thing to do is root your phone. You can achieve this by installing magisk's zip it TWRP, and then installing the Magisk Manager .apk. You can download both from the magisk thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
This will work on your stock rom as well as on custom roms.
Install Adaway to remove popup add like videos in games: https://adaway.org (root needed for this)
An other cool mod is this modified youtube app to remove all adds from videos and allow to play with the screen off or the app in the background: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-iytbp-injected-youtube-background-t3560900
All the information you need is in the first, second and third post.
I'd probably recomend the third post method, using the magisk module. It's the easiest one, you just have to download the file for you CPU architecture (arm for moto g4) and install it in the magisk manager, in the modules section pressing the "+" icon (Root also needed for this).
You can find guides to all of this on youtube, and always read all the instructions before trying anything.
Many of your questions will have most likely already been asked, so also search the threads before asking something.
Good luck!

Comprehensive step by step guide to flash custom ROM for Moto G5 Plus

Hi all.
I have a Moto G5 Plus(XT1687) that I would like use a custom ROM on. In fact I bought a second one to specifically do this with. I have only done this once with a Samsung Galaxy S5 and the MicroG version of LineageOS 14.1
With the Moto G5 Plus there are some extra steps from what I gather(you have to get permission from Motorola in order to unlock the bootloader is one example). And there are some intimidating things that I am just unsure about - such as to install Arrow you have to have Oreo 8.1 installed - but when you unlock the bootloader it wipes the phone? So how is this possible? Do I have to install the stock Oreo ROM first? Where do I get the stock ROM?
I have done a couple of months of searching for guides but have found different instructions and some with broken links to software on google drives or other sites I am not sure are safe. I asked about on the subreddit for Moto G and they pointed me here(which I have read a lot here over the past several months.).
Here is what I know:
1) I will need to enable developer options and USB debugging on the phone
2) I will have to get a code from the phone through abd and fastboot. In order to unlock the bootloader, I have to contact Motorola. give them a code and they will send me a code in order to do so(correct?)
3) I need to install TWRP in order to flash any ROM and other software, such as Gapps.
What I am asking of the community:
1) Legitimate link to the software needed.
2) Recommendations for ROMs. What do I want? I want to get be able to get out of the clutches of Google as much as possible. I understand that Android is Google, but most of the custom ROMs have removed most of the Google code. There is not a ROM from the MicroG website for Potter, which is what I really wanted(is this just LineageOS with thew micro Gapps?) I also have found replacement apps for almost all of my normal apps in the F-Droid repository. Ones I have studied: LineageOS(no official for Moto G5 Plus), Arrow OS, HavocOS and RessurectionOS. I have heard there are many out there. Important to have the actual phone part working well.
3) What is the differences in the different Gapps packages(Open Gapps, Mind the Gapps)?
4) What is this magisk I keep on reading about? Is that just for root? And don't you need root to install TWRP?
5) A step by step guide to make sure I don't jack this up. Even though this is my 'play' phone, I would like it to become my daily driver and plan on getting a SIM card as soon as I can get a stable OS on it.
6) Any tips or recommendations for someone like me.
I appreciate any input.
Thank you.
OK, I found this, but it is over a year old.
Is the info there still relevant? Is there anything that has changed since it was posted?
one two and three of what you know is ok.
The custom rom must be for the device.
On my motog5 plus I use Crdroid-Rom without Google Gapps.
Magisk is used to get root, that is, make changes and view the root of the device.
The information is valid. Rom-are outdated.
Thank you. Doing more research. Hopefully I will have a functioning device by the end of the weekend.
If you want smoothest experience try citrus-CAF its pure CAF rom its very nice smooth and fast.

Looking to root Moto G7 - XT1962-6

Hi,
I'm looking to root G7:
Model - XT1962-6
Software - retin
Build - QPUS30.52-16-2-7-7
I simply want to get LineageOS with TWRP and Root. I have searched but have not found anything related to my model. I don't want to brick the device so if anyone can assist me by directing to the correct method, it will be a great help!
Thanks in advance
Hi dcybergeek,
Welcome. I have the exact same than that you do. I started here looking to do a twrp/magisk root like I did back with my Motp G5 Plus...was np prob find everyone did it. NOT SO for our plain G7. Being a novice, I gave up.
Now I drop to look and ask (beg) to see if anyone knows of magisk root...with or without using twrp if need be. The silence has been deafening...no yes or no or maybe...after nearly begging.
No pne could be bothered to give a simple reply...over n over as can be seen all over! And I thought was THE PLACE on to net for help, but no.
Luckily YES...Lineage 17.1 does work on our phone!! I'm about to just give up on on findi ANY FORM of a Magisk root, I guess.
Simply go hrre:
[OFFICIAL] [NIGHTLIES] LineageOS 17.1
Moto g7 - Your warrenty is now void. - You have been warned. - Use at your own risk. Introduction: This is the Official Lineage OS 17.1 thread for the Motorola Moto g7, codename river. How to Install: Please follow the...
forum.xda-developers.com
and
Motorola moto g7 - LineageOS 17.1
LineageOS 17.1 Changelog for Motorola moto g7 (river). This page is listing the official LineageOS 17.1 (Android 10 10.0) changes and downloads for Motorola moto g7 (river).
www.lineageoslog.com
or
Download and Install Lineage OS 17.1 for Motorola Moto G7 based on Android 10 Q
Finally, Android 10 Q is official and so the AOSP 10 Source code. Motorola Moto G7 (river) is now getting the official version of Lineage OS 17.1
www.getdroidtips.com
Plenty of help...unless you wanna do a twrp + magisk root...no one will even bother to confirm OR deny anything u ask.The following guide looks good but I can't gey ANY of the XDA Pros to respond! Smdh...
Moto G7/G7 Plus Guide: Unlock Bootloader, Install TWRP, and Root with Magisk
In this guide, we will show you how to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP recovery, and subsequently root the Moto G7 and Moto G7 Plus using Magisk. The instructions will work on any Moto G7 or G7…
www.thecustomdroid.com
I hope all work out for you. I gotta buy a diff. phone if I want a magisk root...I think but not sure. Looks like a usedPixel 3 XL or a used Pixel 4a.
Cheers...
Zaxx32 said:
Hi dcybergeek,
Welcome. I have the exact same than that you do. I started here looking to do a twrp/magisk root like I did back with my Motp G5 Plus...was np prob find everyone did it. NOT SO for our plain G7. Being a novice, I gave up.
Now I drop to look and ask (beg) to see if anyone knows of magisk root...with or without using twrp if need be. The silence has been deafening...no yes or no or maybe...after nearly begging.
No pne could be bothered to give a simple reply...over n over as can be seen all over! And I thought was THE PLACE on to net for help, but no.
Luckily YES...Lineage 17.1 does work on our phone!! I'm about to just give up on on findi ANY FORM of a Magisk root, I guess.
Simply go hrre:
[OFFICIAL] [NIGHTLIES] LineageOS 17.1
Moto g7 - Your warrenty is now void. - You have been warned. - Use at your own risk. Introduction: This is the Official Lineage OS 17.1 thread for the Motorola Moto g7, codename river. How to Install: Please follow the...
forum.xda-developers.com
and
Motorola moto g7 - LineageOS 17.1
LineageOS 17.1 Changelog for Motorola moto g7 (river). This page is listing the official LineageOS 17.1 (Android 10 10.0) changes and downloads for Motorola moto g7 (river).
www.lineageoslog.com
or
Download and Install Lineage OS 17.1 for Motorola Moto G7 based on Android 10 Q
Finally, Android 10 Q is official and so the AOSP 10 Source code. Motorola Moto G7 (river) is now getting the official version of Lineage OS 17.1
www.getdroidtips.com
Plenty of help...unless you wanna do a twrp + magisk root...no one will even bother to confirm OR deny anything u ask.The following guide looks good but I can't gey ANY of the XDA Pros to respond! Smdh...
Moto G7/G7 Plus Guide: Unlock Bootloader, Install TWRP, and Root with Magisk
In this guide, we will show you how to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP recovery, and subsequently root the Moto G7 and Moto G7 Plus using Magisk. The instructions will work on any Moto G7 or G7…
www.thecustomdroid.com
I hope all work out for you. I gotta buy a diff. phone if I want a magisk root...I think but not sure. Looks like a usedPixel 3 XL or a used Pixel 4a.
Cheers...
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Hi Zaxx32 , thanks for putting this up for me.
True that regarding the pixel 4a. I am thinking of moving on to that or even if I could get a better deal on the 3a.
I am still thinking to try out these guides. Worse scenario, dead phone and a chance to buy a new one
Update for someone else if looking for help/advice:
The LineageOS 17.1 nightlies works well. Managed to install Lineage OS 17.1 from XDA with TWRP. Next up will try Magisk and share the progress
I wish u the best of luck...unfortunately, you're gonna need it...esp if u have questions. When I asked just the BASIC question 'if river could successfully be magisk rooted via twrp now that a new version of twrp for river had been released?'...the silence was...still, deafening. Either there are still issues or it now works but those who know how have taken an oath os secrecy OR they just can't be bothered to help those of us stil 'learning android'...I dunno which! My point being...if it doesn't work...JUST SAY SO! lol
Zaxx32 said:
I wish u the best of luck...unfortunately, you're gonna need it...esp if u have questions. When I asked just the BASIC question 'if river could successfully be magisk rooted via twrp now that a new version of twrp for river had been released?'...the silence was...still, deafening. Either there are still issues or it now works but those who know how have taken an oath os secrecy OR they just can't be bothered to help those of us stil 'learning android'...I dunno which! My point being...if it doesn't work...JUST SAY SO! lol
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Thanks, could be the model is getting old. Hence the support is dying? But yea myself too didn't expect that from XDA.
dcybergeek said:
Thanks, could be the model is getting old. Hence the support is dying? But yea myself too didn't expect that from XDA.
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Yes, that adds as a contributing factor. But I think it's still well-supported (at least for now).
Anyways, back to your original question. The first thing you need is to unlock the bootloader.
But before that:
1) Take a backup as everything will be erased during bootloader unlock.
2) Download and set up Android SDK platform-tools on your computer.
Omg...DJBhardwaj...do you know how to root the G7 via twrp + Magisk??
DJBhardwaj said:
Yes, that adds as a contributing factor. But I think it's still well-supported (at least for now).
Anyways, back to your original question. The first thing you need is to unlock the bootloader.
But before that:
1) Take a backup as everything will be erased during bootloader unlock.
2) Download and set up Android SDK platform-tools on your computer.
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I have unlocked, twrp with magisk on Lineage already.
But tbh it cannot be used as a daily driver
Zaxx32 said:
Omg...DJBhardwaj...do you know how to root the G7 via twrp + Magisk??
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Yes, it's quite easy if you know the right steps.
dcybergeek said:
I have unlocked, twrp with magisk on Lineage already.
But tbh it cannot be used as a daily driver
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Have you tried other available ROMs?
What issues are you exactly facing with LOS 17.1? Are there any known bugs?
DJBhardwaj said:
Yes, it's quite easy if you know the right steps.
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That's what I was thinking...and is why I got my unlock but just can't pull the trigger cuz I'm not 100% confident I have the order correct. Been searching even harder since the latest twrp releases but no two guides are the same!! ...and I can't risk bricking my phone. Is there anyway I could convince you to show me the correct order/steps? I'd be happy to compensate you for your time...
Zaxx32 said:
That's what I was thinking...and is why I got my unlock but just can't pull the trigger cuz I'm not 100% confident I have the order correct. Been searching even harder since the latest twrp releases but no two guides are the same!! ...and I can't risk bricking my phone. Is there anyway I could convince you to show me the correct order/steps? I'd be happy to compensate you for your time...
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IMO, always be ready for a brick when dealing with such things for the first time. It's not like it's bound to happen, but it could. Especially with all the confusion because of all the different tutorials out there.
Rooting/TWRP/ROMs only deal with non-critical partitions, so even if it gets brick, you can easily recover.
LOL no, please. No need to compensate for anything. It's a public forum, and we all are here voluntarily.
Just hit me up on PM, Telegram, or Discord.
Gotcha. I only recently lost my 'root-cherry' to my G5+ which was a great first root but I didn't do my homework re: the' seamless' update system that google said would be a requirement moving forward..(then back-tracked on it in short order..). So my single slot learning experience was pretty straight forward...but reading all the posts on the G7 left my head spinning. I'll hit you tomorrow via PM if that's ok cuz I have to use the on-screen keyboard as I lack the dexterity to type/use a normal kb...1 clk per character is too damn slow for real-time chat...lmao Ttys...and thank you for sharing your brain-power! Gonna do my backups and transfer everything to the pc tonight. Thx again...
Zaxx32 said:
Gotcha. I only recently lost my 'root-cherry' to my G5+ which was a great first root but I didn't do my homework re: the' seamless' update system that google said would be a requirement moving forward..(then back-tracked on it in short order..). So my single slot learning experience was pretty straight forward...but reading all the posts on the G7 left my head spinning. I'll hit you tomorrow via PM if that's ok cuz I have to use the on-screen keyboard as I lack the dexterity to type/use a normal kb...1 clk per character is too damn slow for real-time chat...lmao Ttys...and thank you for sharing your brain-power! Gonna do my backups and transfer everything to the pc tonight. Thx again...
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Sure. I will try and help as much as possible. It was confusing at first to me as well, but I managed to wrap my head around with enough reading (thanks to some awesome members of the community).
No doubt...I was 'mentored' thru my first root by Wolfcity. The kicker was I'd never used a smart phone til about 8 months b4. Always been a Windows Desktop PC guy n feature phone (burner) user. Leaned a lot...quickly..lol
Ttys...need some rest atm.
DJBhardwaj said:
Have you tried other available ROMs?
What issues are you exactly facing with LOS 17.1? Are there any known bugs?
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Bugs I am facing are hangs some random times. Plus K-9 does not seem to be working well. I delete mails but on desktop it still shows.
dcybergeek said:
Bugs I am facing are hangs some random times. Plus K-9 does not seem to be working well. I delete mails but on desktop it still shows.
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Have you tried shifting to a custom kernel? Are all users of LOS 17.1 facing sudden hangs?
As for K-9, I believe it's more related to syncing issues. It could be that the K-9 app is not able to run background sync.
Zaxx32 as stated above by both me and DJBhardwaj the very best rather than PM, offsite links would be to go through any XDA related thread.
I understand you are looking for root on stock and not lineage and or any other roms.
If it is to regain privacy I still recom you simply go lineage and or other rom.
And if you still want to root on stock, then there is a high chance it won't work based on the -6 model you own. The best I would suggest is disable unwanted apps if unable to delete. Keep google to the bare minimum (do not sync them all). Use unrooted adblockers, set permissions accordingly and set custom dns under network settings.
DJBhardwaj said:
Have you tried shifting to a custom kernel? Are all users of LOS 17.1 facing sudden hangs?
As for K-9, I believe it's more related to syncing issues. It could be that the K-9 app is not able to run background sync.
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I cannot speak for them all, but yes I too suspect kernal issue as the lineage is supported for my -6 model but I suppose not to a full 100%. Other than this, I am not facing any hard errors just sometimes random freezes for 2-3 seconds but to me it is bearable.

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