Same thing as the OP of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/bootloop-to-twrp-ota-update-t3667456
Late last night I saw that there was an update available and, given that I've only rooted my phone, security updates are important, and it's a mere ~15 minutes download + install time tops I went for it.
I absolutely cannot seem to get the update to install via the OTA channel - it downloads just fine but when I attempt to install it it boots into TWRP and once there the only way to leave is via Bootloader > Start (System just reboots into TWRP) and upon reaching Android I'm told that the update was unsuccessful.
I now have two problems:
1. I don't like having notifications that I can't do anything about. Assuming that this OTA is going to nag me for eternity that's definitely going to become an annoyance - but I'd prefer the update vs blocking the notification (again, IF it nags)
2. Every time I restart my phone (or it crashes) I now have to deal with TWRP. It's not a major annoyance. It's at most 8 extra seconds added to my boot time and I don't restart my phone more than 3 times a week. But it IS butt-ache inducing.
Edit: Forgot to add that I came across this and downloaded it https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4/how-to/boost-mobile-ota-t3763851 My E4 is a 1766 and is also from Boost Mobile (Sprint) so I imagine they're the same update. Point is, can I install this with TWRP successfully or would that do nothing / make things worse?
travistyse said:
Same thing as the OP of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/bootloop-to-twrp-ota-update-t3667456
Late last night I saw that there was an update available and, given that I've only rooted my phone, security updates are important, and it's a mere ~15 minutes download + install time tops I went for it.
I absolutely cannot seem to get the update to install via the OTA channel - it downloads just fine but when I attempt to install it it boots into TWRP and once there the only way to leave is via Bootloader > Start (System just reboots into TWRP) and upon reaching Android I'm told that the update was unsuccessful.
I now have two problems:
1. I don't like having notifications that I can't do anything about. Assuming that this OTA is going to nag me for eternity that's definitely going to become an annoyance - but I'd prefer the update vs blocking the notification (again, IF it nags)
2. Every time I restart my phone (or it crashes) I now have to deal with TWRP. It's not a major annoyance. It's at most 8 extra seconds added to my boot time and I don't restart my phone more than 3 times a week. But it IS butt-ache inducing.
Edit: Forgot to add that I came across this and downloaded it https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4/how-to/boost-mobile-ota-t3763851 My E4 is a 1766 and is also from Boost Mobile (Sprint) so I imagine they're the same update. Point is, can I install this with TWRP successfully or would that do nothing / make things worse?
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You cannot install it with twrp on a rooted device. You would have to modify the updater script in it for that. And remove a bunch of assert props. And hope your system isn't modified too much.
So no, you can't. You have to flash back to stock, (the version you're on now) then install it. Or just sit tight, there is someone working on a partition updater, and a twrp flashable rom with the update included.
Once you root and install twrp, ota updates ain't gonna happen. How do you not know this
If you need a solution for the recovery Loop issue you're going to have to give me a minute to find the link it can be fixed.
It's a problem if TWRP when you format data not wiping something properly
this should help a recovery loop. Only if your issue is, every reboot it goes right to twrp. Then you have to reboot bootloader and select start. Easy fix.
madbat99 said:
You cannot install it with twrp on a rooted device. You would have to modify the updater script in it for that. And remove a bunch of assert props. And hope your system isn't modified too much.
So no, you can't. You have to flash back to stock, (the version you're on now) then install it. Or just sit tight, there is someone working on a partition updater, and a twrp flashable rom with the update included.
Once you root and install twrp, ota updates ain't gonna happen. How do you not know this
If you need a solution for the recovery Loop issue you're going to have to give me a minute to find the link it can be fixed.
It's a problem if TWRP when you format data not wiping something properly
this should help a recovery loop. Only if your issue is, every reboot it goes right to twrp. Then you have to reboot bootloader and select start. Easy fix.
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Thank you! And, frankly, because I never stick to stock. I always flash Cyanogenmod or LineageOS pretty much first thing when I get a phone. This time there wasn't a build available that seemed stable enough (Late November) but I still needed Root. I'm used to getting updates from both LOS and CM OTA so I figured the only thing preventing official OTA updates from working was that the build was entirely different. My assumption in this case was that I was still running the stock ROM that came with the device AND they were offering an OTA via notification so the phone must be eligible to receive it. >-> My bad.
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Thank you! And, frankly, because I never stick to stock. I always flash Cyanogenmod or LineageOS pretty much first thing when I get a phone. This time there wasn't a build available that seemed stable enough (Late November) but I still needed Root. I'm used to getting updates from both LOS and CM OTA so I figured the only thing preventing official OTA updates from working was that the build was entirely different. My assumption in this case was that I was still running the stock ROM that came with the device AND they were offering an OTA via notification so the phone must be eligible to receive it. >-> My bad.
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The ota has a bunch of checks in it. If anything fails the checks, ota fails. When you root, there are system changes, boot.img changes, etc. All of which cause the ota to fail. Of course lineage and cm didn't have such strict checks in their update zips because they expect us to root and modify system. Manufacturers do not.
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I originally had OOS3.0.2, and I tried to get Beanstalk rom installed. Beanstalk didn't load correctly, and I softbricked my phone. I managed to go through the recovery of downloading the qualcomm drivers and that weird updating program and then sideload an older version of OOS (2.2). I went to this link and did method 1 https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...ck-guide-for-a-hard-bricked-oneplus-2.347607/. But when I get things fixed up, I can't seem to update to CM13, or even to do a normal update with root, without root, with twrp, without twrp. Nothing. Strangely enough, no matter what I've been doing, the data I had from the very original pre-screw-up time is still all there. Every time I try an update it hangs on the 1+ screen and stays there. How can I get past this? I can't seem to upgrade, and I'm stuck in lollipop.
Well I was still able to get into my phone and do a stock recovery from the Update and Restore option from the phones settings menu, so that fixed it.
Rooted 6P on stock ROM. Today I got a System update notification. Ignored it, went to Google OTA download location, downloaded the O OTA and attempted to install via Flashify. When the phone rebooted it was in a bootloop. Downloaded OTA to my PC at home, side loaded via ADB and attempted to install via TWRP, failed with Error 7. I then edited the install file to remove the "asserts" from the install script. the script installed seemingly OK but the phone again went into a bootloop. At this point I have re-installed N. Anyone seen that or has suggestions? There is a thread on the Google product forums where a number of people are reporting similar behavior. As usual Google is not responding. They truly are becoming the Microsoft of the early 90s - too fat, too rich, and extremely arrogant.
UPDATE: after downgrading to N (and loosing root in the process since I simply flashed the OTA) I attempted to just take the O update straight from Google as a system update. Everything went without error messages until the reboot, now in a bootloop for the last 5 minutes. Will give it another 5 and then downgrade permanently to N until Google fixes their mess three updates from now. Yup, three updates, just as many as Microsoft used to need to get things right.
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Rooted 6P on stock ROM. Today I got a System update notification. Ignored it, went to Google OTA download location, downloaded the O OTA and attempted to install via Flashify. When the phone rebooted it was in a bootloop. Downloaded OTA to my PC at home, side loaded via ADB and attempted to install via TWRP, failed with Error 7. I then edited the install file to remove the "asserts" from the install script. the script installed seemingly OK but the phone again went into a bootloop. At this point I have re-installed N. Anyone seen that or has suggestions? There is a thread on the Google product forums where a number of people are reporting similar behavior. As usual Google is not responding. They truly are becoming the Microsoft of the early 90s - too fat, too rich, and extremely arrogant.
UPDATE: after downgrading to N (and loosing root in the process since I simply flashed the OTA) I attempted to just take the O update straight from Google as a system update. Everything went without error messages until the reboot, now in a bootloop for the last 5 minutes. Will give it another 5 and then downgrade permanently to N until Google fixes their mess three updates from now. Yup, three updates, just as many as Microsoft used to need to get things right.
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Since it's a new version, I downloaded the factory image and flashed everything via fastboot. No problems. In fact, every time I have a problem using flashify or down grading, flashing via fastboot solves everything. Maybe you ought to try doing that.
The OTA file seems to be structurally very different from the N files. There are a bunch of files I have not seen before in N OTAs - bootloader.cmnlib, bootloader.hyp, bootloader.keymaster - the list goes on and on. I am going to have to read up on what to flash and what not to, since the potential to brick the device is significant.
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The OTA file seems to be structurally very different from the N files. There are a bunch of files I have not seen before in N OTAs - bootloader.cmnlib, bootloader.hyp, bootloader.keymaster - the list goes on and on. I am going to have to read up on what to flash and what not to, since the potential to brick the device is significant.
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I'm sorry to say this, but it's probably down to operator error. Making mistakes is just part of the learning process. Just use the full Google image and be done with it. Don't use OTA with Flashify or TWRP. You could have used flash-all.bat with the -w switch removed to leave your data intact, or used the full image with Flashfire retaining root and TWRP. FF makes life very easy, especially when the security updates come monthly.
Yes, this was my mistake. Flashify was messing up for whatever reason, the flashing via fastboot from the full factory image went through fine. I had not done it for a while since Flashify seemed to be doing a fine job with the N incremental upgrates.
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Yes, this was my mistake. Flashify was messing up for whatever reason, the flashing via fastboot from the full factory image went through fine. I had not done it for a while since Flashify seemed to be doing a fine job with the N incremental upgrates.
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It looks like the Flashify dev has moved on and abandoned his project in Dec. 2015. Flashfire is an awesome product that you should look into. It does have a bit of a learning curve, but well supported by Chainfire. You can still freeload until sometime next year. There is a dedicated thread here on XDA. Works a treat on regular monthly updates, although I prefer to use the full image with FF, rather than OTA. By default it will preserve root and recovery while flashing. Primer and FAQ can be found here. The only good news is you probably won't make that same mistake again!
Just flashed my XT1622 (UK Moto G4, NOT the plus version, but they are generally the same) using Nougat stock rom with September security patch(https://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rch-1-t3608138). Thanks @tywinlannister7 who made the guide. It worked smoothly although it's in Moto G4 Plus forum.
Now, I got some questions regarding root. I did a forum search to find the post (https://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...droid-t3587918), which is quite good actually. However, I flashed my xt1622 for two reasons. The first is to upgrade to the latest system - Nougat (well, it not 'the latest' at the moment). The second is because I flashed TWRP on Marshmallow immediately after buying my Moto G4 to get root access, which stopped me to update the phone via OTA for a long time. I can still get the OTA notification, but it just won't let me update - failed after ~20 minutes. So what I did is just manually delay the update notification for 24 hours every day at 12.00pm. It bothered me a lot so I decided to go for a clean flash.
By flashing the new system, I lost some features I used quite a lot.
1. The root access for sure. I am not going to flash TWRP this time in case new patches would come over OTA again. If I flashed TWRP, I will face the same issue as I was on Marshmallow before this flashing. Is it possible to root without flashing TWRP that stops me to update over OTA?
2. I used to flash a specially made logo.bin to prevent the unlocked bootloader screen to appear. Now on Nougat, is there any similar logo.bin to do the same? A download link would be appreciated.
3. I used Llama with different profiles for some automated work such as change alarm volume at home or at workplace, make the phone ring loudly everywhere else, switch to flight mode at 12.00am at midnight and go back at 6.00am in the morning, automatically restart my phone at 1.00am while I am sleeping, and so on. This app won't work properly without root access. - well, looks like we go back to the first question of gaining root access.
Thanks for reading anyway.
1st you can't gain root without twrp installed and a custom kernel like ex kernel on stock rom. But on the opposite you can't update official OTA with a custom recovery like twrp.
2nd have a look at themes section
3rd see 1st
strongst said:
1st you can't gain root without twrp installed and a custom kernel like ex kernel on stock rom. But on the opposite you can't update official OTA with a custom recovery like twrp.
2nd have a look at themes section
3rd see 1st
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thanks for your reply. I think I'd better stick to the official rom then. After so many times of flashing the phone, it seems that I cannot gain too much by rooting it.
I received an update push from Motorolla that installed Nougat. After that, my phone would crash every 3-10 minutes. I did all the troubleshooting I could find online. I contacted support and they wanted me to spend $150 to get it "refurbished." Of course, it sure seems like a software problem, so that wouldn't help me anyways...
I turned to custom. After rooting, installing SuperSU and TWRP, I couldn't get several versions of AICP or Lineage to ever boot (stuck on loading screens). I also tried all the advice from this thread.
I went back and installed the stock Rom using f2fs , and the phone would get to the "hello moto" part of the boot up, then crash and reboot. I tried again using EXT4, and it worked, but just like before I ever begun, my phone was crashing every 3-10 minutes. However, the first crash wasn't until after I made a phone call, and my phone had been crash free for about 20 minutes before that call.
I'm a I.T. guy, but I'm not a "phone" guy. But it seems to me that there must be some other software that was modified during the update that is causing the problems that isn't part of ROMs. Something in the Kernal, or a driver folder or something?
Also, is there a way to get crash reports? So maybe if I at least go back to the default ROM and wait for it to crash, I have some info to work with?
Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!
Flash full stock 6.0x for your model/region.
Important:
Without bootloader, gpt. Don't try locking BL.
Links you can find in my signature.
Try normal boot and after success any custom.
You cannot allow any ota update after it.
Some customs are only for Nougat modem/radio - don't flash it. @Kaivian
Ok, I got most of that, except I don't know what gpt refers to and am not getting any hits on search.
My signature - flashing stock - without bootloader & gpt.
So, I installed a 6.0 stock ROM and got tons of errors. I tried a 2nd time, still got tons of errors. Needless to say, stock 6.0 didn't boot. I decided, "The heck with it" and tried installing Lineage 7.1 again... and it worked! It finally booted up entirely. However, now I get a "Sim card missing" notification. Can I just reinstall part of something... like the modem? so I can keep this "working" lineage boot? Or am I starting over yet again?
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This caused it to not boot.
I went back to 6.0 and turned off auto-updates. I'll try again sometime when I have time. I did like the custom rom a lot, just couldn't use it as a phone xD
Hello,
I want to know if it is possible to root the stock rom, and keep OTA.
Actually, my objective is to use screen mirroring (miracast), and I heard rooted devices can achieve that by changing build.prop. I didn't want to switch from stock rom, since I like it and like updating OTA.
Maybe if I adb boot twrp and install supersu, but keep regular revovery, I can still get OTA?
If there's another solution to screen mirroring, I'd be glad to know, too.
Thanks in advance!
I've tried to root stock rom and keep the system unmodified through Magisk. For whatever reason OTA always fails even though I have stock recovery, supposedly unmodified system, and rolling back to stock boot image prior to trying the OTA.
The only thing that works is to flash the stock firmware and then taking OTA. The only problem is that the stock firmware is tough to come by, but I read that someone got their hands on the latest 93-10 firmware image. So that's good.
I've since moved onto Pixel Experience 8.1 rom without any regrets. The camera works really well and battery is nearly up to par with stock Nougat.
No, unfortunately these things still modify the the system and boot partition and the upgrade script knows it and causes the update to fail. We don't know exactly everything the OTA update scripts check (it's not just a simple text file) but it is obviously something that it knows you are rooted even when nothing else does. :/
You must be completely stock to take an OTA update... the only exception is your bootloader lock state doesn't matter at this time, we do know that it is capable of detecting that as well.
I have done that and I got Bootloop! So don't Try!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/guide-complex-ota-update-magisk-rooted-t3688175