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Questions about Cyanogen

I'm intrigued by these custom ROMS for the Galaxy S4, but I want to know what I'd be getting into if I used one.
What, if any, hardware features of the S4 would I be giving up? With the stock firmware, the phone can take temperature, humidity, and barometric readings. Are those sensors still enabled?
Are all the camera features in the stock ROM enabled, including panoramic camera?
Where do I find a list of bugs in the released ROM?

Robert3750 said:
I'm intrigued by these custom ROMS for the Galaxy S4, but I want to know what I'd be getting into if I used one.
What, if any, hardware features of the S4 would I be giving up? With the stock firmware, the phone can take temperature, humidity, and barometric readings. Are those sensors still enabled?
Are all the camera features in the stock ROM enabled, including panoramic camera?
Where do I find a list of bugs in the released ROM?
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Sensors will always be installed since they're hardware feature but if software doesn't support it it won't work last time I tried it doesn't
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Robert3750 said:
I'm intrigued by these custom ROMS for the Galaxy S4, but I want to know what I'd be getting into if I used one.
What, if any, hardware features of the S4 would I be giving up? With the stock firmware, the phone can take temperature, humidity, and barometric readings. Are those sensors still enabled?
Are all the camera features in the stock ROM enabled, including panoramic camera?
Where do I find a list of bugs in the released ROM?
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Bugs can be found listed in the rom threads.
Unfortunately bugs can differ from user to user. So it's more of a trial and error process. You'll have to find a rom that appeals you, flash it and test for yourself.
In terms of features, you will be giving up the air gestures, the smart stay crap (which never worked for me), and Samsung's camera app.
The CM camera app isn't that advanced. It does have some features, but not as many as the Samsung camera app. And yes, it does have a panorama option.
I've never actually used any of those environmental readings sensors, nor have I seen anybody else mention anything about them in rom threads or in any rom review I saw.
You give up some stuff, but you also gain some stuff. There certainly is a performance improvement over stock firmware. Ram consumption is also lower (I generally have around 1.2 GB free ram), meaning you could do more multitasking.
If you rely on those Samsung features, then stay on the stock rom and just root it.

For me, custom ROMs nearly always beat stock roms, hands-down, and this has held true from my old ZTE blade (Orange San Francisco), two Galaxy S2s, and my S4, probably down to the greater level of user-input that goes into them, rather than the design-by-committee process that OEMs use to try & impose their brand over the vanilla Android os.
I only moved to this S4 (i9505) within the past month or so, so the experience is still quite fresh in my mind...
I agree with much of the advice of the "try it and see" variety, but I also understand that for some of us, we only have the one phone, so when you're using it as your daily device, you don't always fancy going on a magical mystery tour of trying out multiple roms, if it's likely you're just going to go back to the rom you got rid of, and have a massive task of putting everything back the way it was, having wasted a day of experimenting...
1) I hated the bloat that came with the Sammy rom - sure, there's a tool (debloater) that can block certain apps from running, and if rooted, can remove them from the phone - along with a "safe-list" of apps that you can safely remove without breaking any features of the phone.
The bloat isn't just a problem for OCD-esque reasons, these apps take up space, they can run at inopportune times, update themselves using your data, eat up clock time and generally get in the way of having a device that only does what you want it to, when you want it.
Most custom roms tend to give you a (mainly) clean slate to work from, allowing you to pick & choose the functionality you want by installing apps manually - so (like me for example) if you only want to access gmail through your web browser (just like you would on a PC), and don't want a half decade's worth of emails syncing between your device memory & the web, you don't end up with multiple email clients on the handset all clamoring to be by synced 24hrs a day...
Battery life is a MAJOR factor here - I saw a big improvement after debloating the stock rom, and even better since going to CM12.1....
2) Cyanogen (like most custom roms) give more options regarding features that the stock roms bake-in.
For example, heads-up notifications are screwy in the Sammy roms - I'd get a notification of an SMS received in the notification bar. I'd drag-down, double-tap it, but then I'd have to manually un-lock the screen before the SMS app popped-up and displayed the message. Some people hate heads-up notifications full-stop.
Seemingly minor features like these, that after a while begin to really bug you are often controllable in custom roms like CM, or just plain old implemented better, after real-life user input and advice has been given.
3) User control; It's silly how much additional control you can gain from a well thought out custom rom, and the popular ones tend to be well thought out (as they garner a lot of user-input).
For example, in CM you have a additional control over root access in the device settings, fine-tune the interface and gives more fine control over many aspects of the device that if you're used to the Sammy rom you'd think can't actually be accessed...
As to what you'd give up - other users have pointed that out.
All I can say is I'm quite demanding and I've found nothing that I can't do if I need it - for me it has only been a positive.
Some people say the CM camera is less sophisticated than the Sammy one - I personally prefer the simplicity; There's an abundance of high-end camera apps for those times you want to take a studio quality photo, with detailed light readings, composition aids, etc... But mostly when you're taking a quick phone-cam shot, the ease of use is the main factor (and who doesn't tweak their photos at home with photoshop anyhow?)
So a simplecam as the default and the option to go high-end later is for me, the better way round....
I know some of this has strayed slightly off the specific questions you asked, but having made the same change you're thinking of in the past few weeks, I thought that giving some food for thought might be appreciated... Hope it helps...

I very much appreciate the replies. This is the kind of help that's so valuable. Just to clarify something, if an app makes use of hardware features on the S4, it should work as well with the custom ROM as the stock ROM? My motivation in asking all this is that Southern California Metrolink introduced an app to buy train tickets, but it doesn't work with Android 4.4.4. So I want to upgrade. Thanks again.

Unless the app has root restrictions, it should work.
Changing to custom roms you would only lose most Samsung features, mostly because the touchwiz stuff needs the touchwiz framework to function.
That ticket app is not an exclusive thing. It also uses NFC I guess, or a QR scanner. So, as long as NFC or the Camera works you should be fine.
If worse comes to worse, you can always flash back the stock firmware.

IS it worth Rooting ?

I just bought a Sprint V20 and so far I have been looking through the roms and non are without bugs or problems. Which rom would you guys use and is it really that much better to root the phone over stock ?

Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.

I've had mine since Black Friday and still haven't rooted. I'm enjoying the phone despite the lack of data tethering. Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary? I'd enjoy the phone that much more if that were possible.

For me it's worth it just for adaway.
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Yushawan said:
Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary?
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There is no way. At least for Tmobile's variant. However, it only take a second to either zoom out or just click the icon and it will both take you to widescreen. I find zooming out easier for me. I dont know why

I personally only root to control programs that we should be able to control anyway (aka facebook), I get annoyed at how programs continually relaunch themselves without my knowledge.
That being said at this time I haven't rooted mainly because I've only had the phone for a month and I want to make sure that the phone works properly for at least 6 months.
Right now I am running greenify to attempt to control apps that think my personal phone is their playground to do whatever they want.
If I was younger and not dependent on my phone for a lot of things (business and organization) I would try other builds people have made but since I need reliability above all I personally tend to stick to stock builds.
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midmadn said:
Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.
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I may try this soon. I just hope DevDigitals Sprint roms are stable. I use Black Player as my music player for the gym and the camera is awesome for my Cruise I'm taking in April.

It still looks like people are having issues with DevDigitals rom. The data and texting issues. Are all these issues solved in V6.5 ? I use my phone for work and cant take the chance of it not answering a call or a text. Is the new V6.5 working as a daily driver for Sprint users ?

no issues at all on 6.5 for most.....
people sometimes don't read/search anymore

I did post once that I was having data issues but it was no fault of DevDigitl's great rom.
It was my wifi wasn't shutting off and I had previously signed into xfinity wifi. Every time I got anywhere near an xfinity wireless connection, (which is every other house in Boston) it would try to connect.
I'm still learning LG. Been on Samsung for a long time.
I firmly believe the rare connection issues are user error. Once the rom is installed you just need to click update profile and then update prl once.

It's worth rooting
Settings/Developer Options/Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" this should make this beast smoother/snappier" If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store! LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts, well optimised with Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung.

my LG-V20 was also laggy and draining battery quickly. i finally rooted my phone and it is 100% better i am currently using Maximum OvrDriVE Rom. its extremely nice. so if anyone else has the lag/battery drain quicker i suggest rooting your phone should fix. its been about 2 weeks and still doing great also so.

If you want a stable amazing ROM the NotSoStock ROM is the only option....
Don't hesitate just do it. You won't regret it.

I went back to Oreo on my Pixel 2 and here is why...

1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media? all they had to do is allow the user to decide what volume to adjust via hardware keys in the sound settings...
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie". I got a clue for you google, Bring back KitKat design in material and include ticker notifications in your next major revision. Hardly anyone complained about UI's in ICS, Jellybean and KitKat. You guys did a great job until you decided it was time to copy Apple in 5.0.
3) Superior notification/quick with sub-menus for Bluetooth and WIFI. Why was this removed? This isn't quite as dumb as scrapping ticker notifications for heads up to copy Crapple but it's definitely pretty damn close.
4) Split screen mode is a completely seamless experience on Oreo, it's complete trash on Pie unless you run an adb command to remove the Pixel launcher which I bet 60% out of the 75% who updated won't even know about.
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up. This does happen but it's a very minor reason why I prefer being on the final release of Oreo.
6) Recent's is far superior on Oreo (Although you can still revert or Oreo recent's by removing Google Launcher but the majority of consumers do not know this)
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices.-We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution. This means way more application support on 8.x
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one. Seriously... Doze is so powerful, why not just add some profiles to the OS so even the most basic of users can tweak it (or hell, add it to developer settings)... AI is not the answer. Simple settings to config when your device goes into doze mode is... it's your most powerful battery saving feature in Android. Use it....
9) Adaptive brightness is reliable on Oreo & Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie, AI can't seem to get it right. Surprise surprise.
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in SystemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. How is this rocket science? or better yet! allow the user to configure it, haven't you guys realized by now that the center clock mod is super popular among your enthusiasts? I personally don't use it but it's been a very popular mod for half a decade here on XDA and you know people will use it so why not just add it? Oh wait, you guys needed to add a feature to show what music is playing in Wal-mart on the lockscreen. Cool, I guess... the feature is so bad its off by default lol.
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!

Danvdh said:
1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media?
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie"
3)Much better notification/quick toggles pull down with sub-menus for bluetooth and wifi. Why did Google remove this?
4) Split screen mode is usable again! videos actually play!
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up, I like the piece of mind that my phone will stay on the final Oreo update until I feel Pie is stable enough (9.1?)
6) Multitasking is faster (Although it can be sorted by removing Google Launcher but the majority of consumers do not know this)
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices Source: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/ - We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution.
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one.
9) Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in systemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. Seriously, do this!!!
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!
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I get it.
I flashed Pie the other day for the first time but I too am tempted to go back. I miss having my Smartbar navigation mods. The circular icons for quick toggles aren't growing on me. A couple of apps don't work that I used to use.
Performance and battery life is grewt, but the upgrade isn't significant enough for me to stay.... I'm tempted to go back!

I want Oreo back too, but the version I got "unlocked" turned out to be a Verizon variant and my attempt to OTA rollback failed.

But really guys, new things and changes are parts of life, why complaining? You don't want new updates? Buy a Samsung non flagship phone and stay with Oreo forever.

well... thought about finally manually updating to pie today.... now, not so much. I do agree with the notch.... wtf

I've tried Pie, and admittedly there are some good elements, however Google gives us no choices. How hard would it be to have a clock placement setting? How hard would it be to have a full dark theme? How hard would it be to offer a choice on dual window layout? Oreo was tried and true and it feels like many things were changed just for the sake of change. Apparently the recent apps menu can even be reverted deleting files via ADB so why not give people choices? I love the speed and fluidity of stock Android, but must say Samsung, LG, and custom ROMs have an advantage on getting things exactly how you want them. Perhaps Android 10 will finally give users choices again.
The fact that Google plays games with what versions of the Pixel 2 XL can be bootloader unlocked is very disappointing as well. There should be a clearly identified way to tell other than some IMEI checker. I'd love to OTA back to Oreo, but can't and am stuck with a UI I can do nothing to tweak. My only option is deal with it or sell this phone.

Xposed and well duh!
Sent from my Google Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs

Danvdh said:
1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media?
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie"
3)Much better notification/quick toggles pull down with sub-menus for bluetooth and wifi. Why did Google remove this?
4) Split screen mode is usable again! videos actually play!
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up, I like the piece of mind that my phone will stay on the final Oreo update until I feel Pie is stable enough (9.1?)
6) Multitasking is faster (Although it can be sorted by removing Google Launcher but the majority of consumers do not know this)
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices Source: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/ - We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution. This means way more application support on 8.x
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one.
9) Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in systemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. Seriously, do this!!!
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!
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How did you go back to Oreo? what is a safe way to do it? is side load of Oreo firmware for my Canadian brand will do it?
Thanks - Itzik

I am still on Oreo with my pixel and wont go to Pie anytime soon! I need to root oreo and rock it now!

oneandroidnut said:
I am still on Oreo with my pixel and wont go to Pie anytime soon! I need to root oreo and rock it now!
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You can root Pie as well. However, if you use xposed, then don't :good:

Badger50 said:
You can root Pie as well. However, if you use xposed, then don't :good:
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i would use xposed so no pie for me lol

itzik_man said:
How did you go back to Oreo? what is a safe way to do it? is side load of Oreo firmware for my Canadian brand will do it?
Thanks - Itzik
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I did a full data wipe in TWRP, flashed the latest 8.1 rom with deuces script and then once back to 8.1 flashed Resurrection Remix custom rom etc

Pie looks nothing like iOS to me

I'm also tempted to go back to Oreo. I don't like many of Googles changes with Pie and that they are following apple in many things.

Kimbo82 said:
I'm also tempted to go back to Oreo. I don't like many of Googles changes with Pie and that they are following apple in many things.
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its a well oiled machine. I don't regret it for a second.

just got my pixel2xl come with 8.1
after my OG Pixel got pie, and it's feels not right, and i READ this, i decided to not update my pixel2xl
everything you said is true.

Having the Verizon Pixel 2 XL, I was unable to roll back. My options were to sell it and get a Google version or trade it for an LG V35 ThinQ and end up ahead. I went for the V35 and to be honest, I'm much happier with it. LG really improved the display over the Pixel 2 XL. The Snapdragon 845 is noticeably faster, 6 GB RAM offsets any efficiency difference. The headphone jack and MicroSD card support are a huge plus. Best of all, using LG themes and Substratum, I was able to get a clean dark theme without root.
I had a good run with the Pixel 2 XL on Oreo but it was time to move on. Yes, I realize that the V35 will get Pie eventually, but the framework for themes and customization is already there.

Over 75% of Pixel users are on Android Pie — why not more?
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/15/75-percent-pixel-users-android-pie/
Because of people like you! Just jokes. [emoji4]
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

just bought pixel 2 xl and this october security update is really ****ty, even zooming photos and just panning in photos app gives jitters. can i revert back to september or august security update without unlocking the bootloader or rooting?

ashish7adlakha said:
just bought pixel 2 xl and this october security update is really ****ty, even zooming photos and just panning in photos app gives jitters. can i revert back to september or august security update without unlocking the bootloader or rooting?
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Nope. Bootloader needs to be unlocked. You don't need to be rooted.

MIUI 10 Real Life Review + Looking For New ROM

Disclaimer and Obligatory Background: I'm posting this here because the Discussions section seems the most appropriate one for this post. Mods are welcome to move/relocate the post if they see fit. I work in PR (Marketing/Social Media/Content Creation) and spend most of my days on the phone. Therefore, I consider myself a heavy user. You should read the following review with that in mind.
I've been using MIUI 10 (10.2.2.0 EU) for about three weeks now as my daily driver. The mod is a decent attempt by the MIUI team to bring MIUI 10 to the A2/6X but not the best out there considering the 6X should run on MIUI to begin with. Keep in mind that MIUI 10 is still under development and things may change at a moment's notice. This account of my experience is only valid at the time of writing and I won't consider myself responsible of what you do with your phone after you've read it. Now that we're good with all of that, let's take a look at what works and what I think would benefit from a bit more attention.
What Works
Phone/Data/Basic Coms: Everything that concerns your day-to-day phoning habits works well. I haven't encountered any of the issues mentioned on the forum when it comes to volumes, coverage, call quality or loss of data. MIUI 10 re-introduces call recording which might be a useful feature for some but I haven't had the chance/need to test it out for myself.
Swipe Gestures: the iPhone-like navigation gestures are actually a welcome addition to the ROM - at least in my opinion. Coming from Android One it took me a bit of time to get used to the new thing and I still accidentally archive e-mails on Gmail when I'm trying to close the app every now and then but the gestures do make your life simpler once you learn how to use them and I know they're one of the few things I'll miss if I ever go back to OTA.
Battery Life: battery performances seem pretty much the same I had back on Android One and the phone withstands heavy usage quite well. I might need to plug it in at the end of a particularly busy day - especially if I've had a particularly long call or spent a lot of time managing social media/taking pictures but MIUI 10 never left me stranded during the day, which is a great improvement over older versions of this OS. I am not sure MIUI 10 features adaptive battery tbh.
Scrolling Screenshots: this is actually one of the features that encouraged me to try MIUI 10 and I must say I'm satisfied with the results. For those of you who haven't tried them yet, scrolling screenshots essentially let you keep capturing portions of the screen that are not visible the moment you hit the screenshot button. They're great if you're trying to save an entire email convo or a Twitter/Forum thread.
Memory Management: Memory and performances are pretty much the same I've had on Android One. On a good day, the phone (6GB version) would have about 3.2/3.3 GB free ram with the OS + Twitter, Discord, Instagram, Mi Fit, Messenger, and Telegram locked into memory. I do miss not having to manually open the recents drawer and close whatever I'm not using to free up space but the phone still performed quite well. What I will mention is that quick apps (or whatever the MIUI "no more waiting to open apps" system is called) would crash on me every once in a while but, hey, I can live with that.
What Needs Improvements
Camera: the camera on MIUI 10 is abysmal; there is no other way to describe it. Especially when it comes to video, the overall quality of what the stock camera app can produce is miles below what the hardware is actually capable of. Video turns out to be noisy even in decent lighting conditions and look as if they were taken with a cheap phone rather than the dual camera that this device comes with. 4k recording is useless if the resulting file is peppered with artefacts and remains unusable. The situation is slightly better with photos. The AI does help with taking HD pictures outdoor but the whole thing still left me wanting for more. Of course one could try unlocking camera2api and installing a gcamera mod but that could be done on just about any ROM and wouldn't be a reason I'd go with MIUI over stock. Plus, camera2api would randomly deactivate itself every once in a while, even when activated following the so-called permanent method that's available here on xda.
Wi-Fi: I've noticed consistent drops in wifi since I switched to MIUI. The ROM would show full WIFI bars only to decide the connection wasn't strong enough and switch over to data in the middle of whatever you were doing; an approach that might end up costing you a lot if you're roaming or streaming HQ video when MIUI decides your data radio is being underutilized and deserves some love STAT! This has happened on multiple routers, in different conditions and at different distances from the router/wifi antenna, making me think that the issue might lie with the ROM rather than the WIFI I was connected to.
Bluetooth: Similarly to WIFI, bluetooth also seems to have a few problems on MIUI 10. I never experienced a full disconnection but using bluetooth headphones to listen to music as I was walking/working out often resulted in the music stuttering. There are a few settings you can toy around with in the dev settings section of the ROM and I've done that but the issue was never really solved in its entirety.
What Doesn't Work At All
Screen Recording: If you're thinking of switching to MIUI to escape Google's idiotic idea that system sound shouldn't be included with the recordings of what's going on on your screen anymore, just don't bother. While the MIUI screen recorder app does allow for system audio to be captured, the audio quality is just too low to make the actual recording useful for anything more than amateur hour. Sound stutters and is often out of sync, resulting in files that you simply can't use for professional purposes. If you really need system audio for a presentation, a gameplay video or an app review, you're better off investing 20 bucks in a decent USB to jack dongle and using an AUX cable to connect your phone to a PC with audacity. Which, by the way, is also how you would do that on any android phones nowadays.
MIUI Bloatware: I've had it with these motherf***ing apps asking me for a MIUI account, even on the de-bloated EU version of MIUI. I'm not interested in a China-based cloud service that I know nothing of and I don't want to log into MIUI just to report a bug. You've asked me already, stop doing that now!
A few things I'd like to add: The support from MIUI when it comes to MIUI 10 is meh. They do have their own dedicated forum and are pretty active here on XDA but the threads are usually flooded by sub-humans spamming requests for a port to their devices and most of the people that lurk the Xiaomi site have a pretty low command of the English language. I'm not saying I was expecting top-notch support for a free piece of software but that might piss some of the less patient among us off. Most of the bugs I've discussed in this thread were already reported months ago and were either ignored or acknowledged but never fixed.
That said, I'm now looking for a new ROM to avoid going back to OTA Android One. I would need something that's at least as performant as stock Android One and whose camera can take decent pictures/photos. I've heard that camera2api is active by default on roms like LineageOS but it seems the only LOS version I could find is an unofficial port that I'm afraid will never get constant updates. Any kind of pointer or suggestion is more than welcome here!

Buy a Mi 9.

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Buy a Mi 9.
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What's the point of this answer? Had I asked for a new model to buy, I would understand your suggestion for a Mi 9... but why waste the time to type out your sentence when it clearly adds nothing of value to the conversation?
Just to be clear, I'm perfectly okay with going back to stock and manually activating camera2api if no better solution is available. Hardware-wise, the A2 is a pretty capable phone; no reason to change it. I'm merely wondering whether the community is willing to share their opinion on a solid ROM to use for it.

Alecossy said:
What's the point of this answer? Had I asked for a new model to buy, I would understand your suggestion for a Mi 9... but why waste the time to type out your sentence when it clearly adds nothing of value to the conversation?
Just to be clear, I'm perfectly okay with going back to stock and manually activating camera2api if no better solution is available. Hardware-wise, the A2 is a pretty capable phone; no reason to change it. I'm merely wondering whether the community is willing to share their opinion on a solid ROM to use for it.
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... so, you want a mi a2/6x hardware to produce an outstanding performance and top list photo quality captures, with a rock solid free-offer ROM.
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stevedat said:
... so, you want a mi a2/6x hardware to produce an outstanding performance and top list photo quality captures, with a rock solid free-offer ROM.
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The Mi A2 already produces quality photos and yields solid performances on OTA. Let me try to rephrase/dumb down that question for you:
"On MIUI, not liking it rn. Anything else I should try before I go back to stock?"

Havoc OS is pretty damn stable option, everything just works. I've never returned to stock since installing it. Had the odd dabble with other roms etc but i always find myself back to Havoc.
Of course its all personal preference really, but Havoc for my usage is the all round most stable. Give a bash and find out for yourself!

Alecossy said:
The Mi A2 already produces quality photos and yields solid performances on OTA. Let me try to rephrase/dumb down that question for you:
"On MIUI, not liking it rn. Anything else I should try before I go back to stock?"
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I have heard it first from you. I guess it'll be last. Mi 6X or MiUi is much better in many ways than Mi A2 or stock Android one. Be it camera, battery backup or the overall experience. Only a handful of Mi 6X users are using custom Rom as they are satisfied with the stock. Relatively a large portions of Mi A2 users are using custom Rom. Why? Ask yourself.

The choice of rom always depends on your need. If u want a rock stable rom, then I suggest you to try LOS or AICP. If u want to customize as much as possible and want many features,then you should give Havoc, RR or crdroid a try.
I personally use Havoc. It's quiet stable which is impressive for the amount of features.

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I have heard it first from you. I guess it'll be last. Mi 6X or MiUi is much better in many ways than Mi A2 or stock Android one. Be it camera, battery backup or the overall experience. Only a handful of Mi 6X users are using custom Rom as they are satisfied with the stock. Relatively a large portions of Mi A2 users are using custom Rom. Why? Ask yourself.
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Let's see what my reasons for not liking MIUI 10 are: inability to update from OTA without having to lock yourself into MIUI forever, camera quality (which - you can try to deny it - but has long been an issue with MIUI), the risk of bricking your phone if you mess up updates, the simple fact I want to test different options before I settle on a final ROM for a phone I use for more than just watching YouTube videos and jerking off; is that enough for you or should I look for more?
Plus, what's wrong with you MIUI fanboys anyway? A man can't ask for an opinion without the MIUI cavalry coming to the rescue of their beloved OS?
Just loosen up a bit, it's not like I'm asking you people to modify your own devices. As someone else said in here, the best mod for you depends on the use you make of your phone. I guess I'm going to try Havoc and then decide whether I like it more than the stock experience!

if you like miui try rom from xiaomi. eu... is mine daily driver as i liked more miui from android one and ghe bugs you said just no exist

Alecossy said:
Let's see what my reasons for not liking MIUI 10 are: inability to update from OTA without having to lock yourself into MIUI forever, camera quality (which - you can try to deny it - but has long been an issue with MIUI), the risk of bricking your phone if you mess up updates, the simple fact I want to test different options before I settle on a final ROM for a phone I use for more than just watching YouTube videos and jerking off; is that enough for you or should I look for more?
Plus, what's wrong with you MIUI fanboys anyway? A man can't ask for an opinion without the MIUI cavalry coming to the rescue of their beloved OS?
Just loosen up a bit, it's not like I'm asking you people to modify your own devices. As someone else said in here, the best mod for you depends on the use you make of your phone. I guess I'm going to try Havoc and then decide whether I like it more than the stock experience!
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Yes you can test whatever you want. But what you are saying about MiUi is pure wrong. Some uninformed guesses I think. I won't entertain you on all the matter you have described. Just make a poll of Mi A2 camera vs Mi 6X camera. Better make a poll of Mi A2 vs Mi 6X. Or you may find some information already before creating a poll. Search XDA.

I think that we better stop agruing about it. It leads to nothing that we can learn or play with. Love Miui 10 just use it; Hate Miui 10 just don't use it.
Want it better huh, go to feedback place or email to the developer team.
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Questions before buying this phone.

So I was going to buy this phone today. I recently had to sell my iPhone X and I think this phone is good but I have a worry about bloat/software updates and performance. i was going to buy oneplus 7t but it seems like I can't find it in my country
can I just install stock android on this and call it a day? I'm worried it'll still lag and stutter cause I know the stock one is a little stuttery (My step-sister has one!) . I can afford the pro too but this is much cheaper and I never play games on my phones. I just care about UI performance and stability.
Is it still easy to install custom roms on phones thesedays? I remember back when I had an htc sensation it was really really easy to install roms etc.
anyone who can give me thoughts here! I also had my eye on the Galazy s10e but it's really small ;-;
do i need to pay attention to anything like the country and model etc?

They say when you use iPhone you never go back, what happened?
Flashing is almost the same as before except you have to unlock bootloader - easy as plug usb and click a few buttons.
You know it all depends on apps that you have? For me 9t is perfect smooth, but I don't use all crappy apps like - fb, toktok, insta, etc.
As for security - if you don't install weird apps and don't open shady websites, you are safe.
It refers to every device with internet access, so don't think iPhone is special (it has flaws like every OS)

The stock rom in Miui 11 Pie have some stutters when reading fingerprint on Always on Display, on recent apps on the stock launcher with full screen gestures and some on the dialer and some on the youtube app on the title of the video... Apart from those things, it's buttery smooth.
Talking about bloat, this is what it comes with (See screenshots).
I haven't tested roms yet but there's Pixel Experience, Paranoid Android.
I'm still on stock and waiting for Android 10, Xiaomi isn't known for updating Android versions but they update their interface even on older phones.

So it's stock bloat, use Xiaomi adb fastboot tool and stick to what you can remove.
I recommend Nova launcher and YouTube vanced.
As for ROM I used lineage for quite some time, but not yet on 9t - I was always very impressed by how fast it could be compared to stock.
You have to read what are bugs and what it could do as many ROMs have different functionality

Well, i use mi9t since 1 month and I can definitely recommend this phone. Just removed few of stock apps and used my preferred magisk modules on Xiaomi.eu, the experience is great. I am playing few games, not the most demanding ones, but there is completely nothing I could complain about even using high settings. The UI experience is flawless for me, 0 frame drops and smoothness in every animation (but I am not using Facebook app and similar trash), I am definitely beyond satisfied. Even so considering great battery, great display, good camera and low price. Fingerprint is better than enough for me after adding second scan of the same finger. Definitely recommend to at least try this phone!

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1Maxter1 said:
The stock rom in Miui 11 Pie have some stutters when reading fingerprint on Always on Display, on recent apps on the stock launcher with full screen gestures and some on the dialer and some on the youtube app on the title of the video... Apart from those things, it's buttery smooth.
Talking about bloat, this is what it comes with (See screenshots).
I haven't tested roms yet but there's Pixel Experience, Paranoid Android.
I'm still on stock and waiting for Android 10, Xiaomi isn't known for updating Android versions but they update their interface even on older phones.
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I was gonna go and buy that but i saw the note 10 and I fell in love! so I actually bought that. still can't believe i spent so much money on a phone!
it's very smooth and i don't see a need for rooting or custom roms yet my original plan after your comments were to get a xiaomi and put pixel experiance on it!

Had samsungs, but now they only have curved edges for s and note, its very annoying and edges only looks nice, but are totally impractical

JesuuBL said:
How to improve battery in xiaomi.eu, android system is draining too much
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I had this problem with android system draining very much the battery, the fix for me was to format data and flash the latest miuimix rom and everything seems OK now...

yaro666 said:
They say when you use iPhone you never go back, what happened?
Flashing is almost the same as before except you have to unlock bootloader - easy as plug usb and click a few buttons.
You know it all depends on apps that you have? For me 9t is perfect smooth, but I don't use all crappy apps like - fb, toktok, insta, etc.
As for security - if you don't install weird apps and don't open shady websites, you are safe.
It refers to every device with internet access, so don't think iPhone is special (it has flaws like every OS)
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I think you will be more happy importing the OnePlus phone

Mi 9t is amazing phone. Iphone is amazing but battery life I think is better for mi9t or one plus 7t. Iphone software is suited for people that don't want customizations. The reason I don't like Iphones is design-notch is ugly and back camera arangement is ugly. But Iphones have fastest procesors in all smartphones and less issues with laging, crashing. Just dont buy old iphones. I am happy with mi9t, but iphone 11 pro or 11 pro max is much better but the price is a lot higher
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