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Modified XT1095 OTA

I took the OTA update zip from my phone and modified the updater-script to look for:
motorola/victara_tmo/victara:5.0/LXE22.46-11/11:user/release-keys
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This should allow the OTA to be sideloaded if you used the Motorola 5.0 Lollipop factory image that they recently published.
DISCLAIMER:
This is untested by me. I have no idea if it will work. Be sure you can return to stock if you need to. DO NOT flash this if your bootloader is locked!
Still here? Then if you want to be a guinea pig, you must be on the factory image from lollipop and the fingerprint must be motorola/victara_tmo/victara:5.0/LXE22.46-11/11:user/release-keys.
Url removed. Motorola has fixed the 5.0 images. Download them again.

Honestly I'd rather not do this. The check is there for a reason.

alvareo said:
Honestly I'd rather not do this. The check is there for a reason.
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True. But Motorola hasn't been too good with their checks already. The only part that concerns me would be the sbl update at the end of the script.

I think the official 5.0 image Motorola posted was put together in a rush or something. After I flashed it, the software status in the bootloader always showed: modified. When I didn't see the OTA popping up after checking for updates yesterday, I tried a logcat and it was spitting out errors about build fingerprint mismatch (that made sense), but also errors about root being present? I had not rooted after flashing the 5.0 image... The OTA was clearly available from Motorola's servers (I could see the download link and manually download it if I wanted). It was just determined to be incompatible, so the phone just kept saying software is up to date...
After flashing the previous 5.0 I had laying around, the software status showed as official in the bootloader as well.

Very good info. Sounds like they botched the build and now it's causing issues for everyone. I bet when they compiled the image they had something extra in the /system and that caused it to increment the build fingerprint and the status to show modified

Anyone get this to work? Comes up invalid file for me.

I don't think it will work. If I remember correctly otas need a signature, which only motorola has. Since it's a modified ota, the signature won't match.
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Actually it will work. Chinese people had successfully modified ota of 5.0.2,he reduced BL's version and gpt's level. So if u flash that ,it would not update your BL version and also gpt level. because of this modified ota u can easily downgrade ~

colourfuldays said:
Actually it will work. Chinese people had successfully modified ota of 5.0.2,he reduced BL's version and gpt's level. So if u flash that ,it would not update your BL version and also gpt level. because of this modified ota u can easily downgrade ~
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I just read up on it some more. We are both correct. Yes you can modify an ota file but if it is not signed by motorola it can only be used on an unlocked bootloader. Anyoneone that has a locked bootloader will not work.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

colourfuldays said:
Actually it will work. Chinese people had successfully modified ota of 5.0.2,he reduced BL's version and gpt's level. So if u flash that ,it would not update your BL version and also gpt level. because of this modified ota u can easily downgrade ~
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In the other 5.1 thread they posted IMG files for everything but bl and gpt. I fastbooted just the system and boot files and now am on 5.1 may try the modem files at some point but didnt see a need so far. One disclaimer in the same thread i gave explicit directions to another user who said it didnt work at all but he was not on a pure edition and had a different bl version.
So why post all this here.... to agree with the above that with the script correctly modified it should work perfectly.

XT-1644 Official Nougat Update?

My Phone Info:
Single sim 2gb ram + 16gb rom
Hello folks I've been searching for a nougat update for XT-1644, but unable to find over the xda if anyone of you havs upgraded your xt-1644 then kindly tell the procedure here, Thanks.
Here is my About Phone Info.
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You mean a method like this? https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-stock-marshmallow-to-nougat-t3540022
If you download the 93-14 Nougat firmware, that's the latest version. Nougat OTAs currently only exist for the 93-11 firmware.

echo92 said:
You mean a method like this? https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-stock-marshmallow-to-nougat-t3540022
If you download the 93-14 Nougat firmware, that's the latest version. Nougat OTAs currently only exist for the 93-11 firmware.
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Sorry didn't find that,
One more question i have unlocked my bootloader will it work? I mean will i be able to flash this 7.0?

waseemmayaa said:
Sorry didn't find that,
One more question i have unlocked my bootloader will it work? I mean will i be able to flash this 7.0?
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Yes, your bootloader status won't matter - as long as that's all you've done. As I understand it, the update via stock recovery only cares if the rest of your phone has been modified - if you've still got a stock bootloader, stock recovery and stock kernel (from MM, provided it's up to date), it should work and you should be eligible for future OTAs.
The only hurdle I could see happening is that the build of Marshmallow expected by the OTA and your phone's current OS build do not match, in which case it won't install. Thus, you may have to consult one of the fastboot Nougat 93-11 or 93-14 threads to install, which you'll have to do if your system is modified past the bootloader.
Here are a couple for your perusal:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612

echo92 said:
Yes, your bootloader status won't matter - as long as that's all you've done. As I understand it, the update via stock recovery only cares if the rest of your phone has been modified - if you've still got a stock bootloader, stock recovery and stock kernel (from MM, provided it's up to date), it should work and you should be eligible for future OTAs.
The only hurdle I could see happening is that the build of Marshmallow expected by the OTA and your phone's current OS build do not match, in which case it won't install. Thus, you may have to consult one of the fastboot Nougat 93-11 or 93-14 threads to install, which you'll have to do if your system is modified past the bootloader.
Here are a couple for your perusal:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612
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Thanks for the brief info, it means i have to flash it via fastboot and if that works fine then I'll be able to get OTA, but for your info, I've unlocked bootloader and installed Official TWRP but if i flash any of the firmware (given above) will i face bootloop kinda stuffs? I am scared if something goes wrong then i will even not able to restore nandroid backup. Hope you gotta help me.
Thanks.

waseemmayaa said:
Thanks for the brief info, it means i have to flash it via fastboot and if that works fine then I'll be able to get OTA, but for your info, I've unlocked bootloader and installed Official TWRP but if i flash any of the firmware (given above) will i face bootloop kinda stuffs? I am scared if something goes wrong then i will even not able to restore nandroid backup. Hope you gotta help me.
Thanks.
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I see you've received a response in the other thread regarding if XT1644 will accept the update; given you've flashed TWRP, if you wish to be very safe, I would suggest re-installing your Marshmallow ROM so you have a stock install before proceeding to Nougat. There's nothing stopping you from directly flashing Nougat, and the fastboot method for either Nougat build may correctly overwrite the relevant files, the only way is to try the procedure. Don't use the TWRP backup images of Nougat - they don't contain updates to your baseband modem and other core parts of your device - they are only meant to be used once your entire phone is updated to Nougat.
If you wish to restore back to stock MM before flashing Nougat, here's links to stock firmware for XT1644: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-firmware-t3454980
But either way, read all the instructions first, ensure you've got all the firmware and tools you need installed/downloaded, your phone has at least 50 % battery and plenty of time, and you should be okay.

Trouble flashing STOCK recovery

I am able to flash stock firmware with fastboot, however recovery.img and boot.img always fail with "(bootloader) image signed with key bad key"... doesnt matter if its 139.48-49-64 or the nougat soak test. I have xt1625 US retail, i made sure im using the correct non-amazon US firmware...
It boots up and runs properly, and i can install twrp... however, im unable to install the OTA updates without stock recovery, so im stuck on NPJ25.93-11 instead of 14
anybody have any similar issue?

That error with the boot.img and recovery.img, if I recall, usually shows up - provided after the warning the log says they were flashed okay, then you shouldn't have any problems, as you've experienced.
Yup, you cannot install any OTA updates from Motorola once you've modified your system - you need to be on stock recovery and system. Unlocking your bootloader is okay, but modifying your recovery, kernel, or any other part of your system may stop the OTA from installing. Your possible options are to re-flash the 93-11 update and download the 93-14 OTA if it's available in your region, or fastboot one of the 93-14 ROMs in the Guides section (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369)

ourangashane said:
I am able to flash stock firmware with fastboot, however recovery.img and boot.img always fail with "(bootloader) image signed with key bad key"... doesnt matter if its 139.48-49-64 or the nougat soak test. I have xt1625 US retail, i made sure im using the correct non-amazon US firmware...
It boots up and runs properly, and i can install twrp... however, im unable to install the OTA updates without stock recovery, so im stuck on NPJ25.93-11 instead of 14
anybody have any similar issue?
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When and how did you get the Nougat update for the XT1625? I am on stock and have not received it, nor have I seen any update from Motorola available for it.

pastorbob62 said:
When and how did you get the Nougat update for the XT1625? I am on stock and have not received it, nor have I seen any update from Motorola available for it.
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Likely fastboot'ed one of the Nougat images in the Guides section; I've not seen any mentions of OTA updates in the US either - Canada and Brazil appear to have received it thus far, hopefully the US isn't far behind!

echo92 said:
Likely fastboot'ed one of the Nougat images in the Guides section; I've not seen any mentions of OTA updates in the US either - Canada and Brazil appear to have received it thus far, hopefully the US isn't far behind!
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That would be my guess as well. I don't get why some are so impatient to get Nougat that they risk flashing firmware not intended for their devices. Then they wonder why they are having issues. Oh well!

pastorbob62 said:
When and how did you get the Nougat update for the XT1625? I am on stock and have not received it, nor have I seen any update from Motorola available for it.
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No, no update yet.... i just flashed the indian version from the forum..
echo92 said:
That error with the boot.img and recovery.img, if I recall, usually shows up - provided after the warning the log says they were flashed okay, then you shouldn't have any problems, as you've experienced.
Yup, you cannot install any OTA updates from Motorola once you've modified your system - you need to be on stock recovery and system. Unlocking your bootloader is okay, but modifying your recovery, kernel, or any other part of your system may stop the OTA from installing. Your possible options are to re-flash the 93-11 update and download the 93-14 OTA if it's available in your region, or fastboot one of the 93-14 ROMs in the Guides section (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369)
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Had i just used my eyes lol... Id been looking for a fastboot 93-14, i must have been way too tired lol.. thank you

Downgrading bootloader version

Does anyone know about this ?
The last version of the firmware that got OTA'ed to my phone is POTTER_RETAIL_7.0_NPNS25.137-93-8.
The only twrp backup of the firmware I have is while it was on POTTER_RETAIL_7.0_NPNS25.137-93-4.
When I tried to flash the phone with v 93-4 using fastboot, I got denied because of the version being older than that of the bootloader. But the problem is that I was able to erase prior to attempting writing ...
I need to re-install a stock rom in the phone, but POTTER_RETAIL_7.0_NPNS25.137-93-8 cannbot be found anywhere yet.
I though about twrp-flashing the phone with my 93-4 backup, but I am hesitant, I fear bricking the phone.
Is there any alternative to patience while waiting for POTTER_RETAIL_7.0_NPNS25.137-93-8_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip eventually appearing somewhere ?
Or, in other words, knowing that the last OTA to my phone installed v 93-8, is there any way to flash POTTER_RETAIL_7.0_NPNS25.137-35-5_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip for instance ?

CanadianGixxerman said:
I though about twrp-flashing the phone with my 93-4 backup, but I am hesitant, I fear bricking the phone.
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An older version (your twrp backup) will work with a newer bootloader, however you can't do any OTAs. An OTA will try to apply the same changes to the bootloader that were already made, resulting in a hard brick - though the OTA would fail anyway since you don't have an intact /oem partition. You will have a functional phone, and you can get back on track after 93-8 images or Oreo are released.
I know because I'm in a similar situation. I wanted to update from 93-4 to 93-8, and I had an intact /system image backup, but /oem was mounted before so I had to flash it via fastboot. Little did I know it was from the wrong channel (retus instead of reteu), resulting in the OTA updating everything except for oem and messing stuff up, so I just flashed a 93-4 twrp backup. Everything works, patiently waiting for Oreo.

bazinga137 said:
I just flashed a 93-4 twrp backup.
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Just curious. Did you have a full system image backup through twrp or just the system partition? I have a twrp backup of 93-8 stock boot, logo, oem, recovery, and system PARTITIONS which I thought would allow me to restore and take ota. However, since doing that I've read that system needs to be the full IMAGE backup through twrp. Confused so I haven't restored to take the 93-10 update which I got notification of yesterday.

craigl14 said:
Just curious. Did you have a full system image backup through twrp or just the system partition? I have a twrp backup of 93-8 stock boot, logo, oem, recovery, and system PARTITIONS which I thought would allow me to restore and take ota. However, since doing that I've read that system needs to be the full IMAGE backup through twrp. Confused so I haven't restored to take the 93-10 update which I got notification of yesterday.
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Honestly, I am not sure. I did a twrp back up with the default selected partitions. But it turned out that this backup is not reliable. The phone does boot up on it, but suffers from applications crashes all over. Last I discovered is that the phone itself was not working for a phone, meaning making receiving calls is not possible.

craigl14 said:
Just curious. Did you have a full system image backup through twrp or just the system partition? I have a twrp backup of 93-8 stock boot, logo, oem, recovery, and system PARTITIONS which I thought would allow me to restore and take ota. However, since doing that I've read that system needs to be the full IMAGE backup through twrp. Confused so I haven't restored to take the 93-10 update which I got notification of yesterday.
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It needs to be an image backup for OTAs. Unlike a regular backup, image backups are block-by block pristine copies, and restoring them preserves dm-verity and all /system checks. On the other hand the /oem partition cannot be backed up as an image (I asked GtrCraft, the official maintainer of twrp for some moto devices), and since OTAs also check if /oem has been tampered with, the update fails.
Updates will only pass if /oem has never been mounted, and you have a system image backup.

bazinga137 said:
It needs to be an image backup for OTAs. Unlike a regular backup, image backups are block-by block pristine copies, and restoring them preserves dm-verity and all /system checks. On the other hand the /oem partition cannot be backed up as an image (I asked GtrCraft, the official maintainer of twrp for some moto devices), and since OTAs also check if /oem has been tampered with, the update fails.
Updates will only pass if /oem has never been mounted, and you have a system image backup.
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Dumb question...How do I know if the oem partition is tampered with or has never been mounted? I am rooted with elementalx kernel and supersu. TWRP partition stock backup made immediately after taking 93-8 update and before flashing twrp, rooting, etc. I know I am hosed without the system IMAGE as far as ota's go, but I'm just trying to learn.

I'm in the same boat. Pretty much stuck on 93-8 forever until a new full image is released somewhere. I might just move onto a custom Oreo rom.

dunderball said:
I'm in the same boat. Pretty much stuck on 93-8 forever until a new full image is released somewhere. I might just move onto a custom Oreo rom.
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Well, I did that. I have tried a few cutom roms : Pixel Exprerience, Resurection Remix, AOSP extended, AOSiP and Dirty Unicorns. The latter and AOSiP are those I find the most reliable. Avoid PE and RR, too buggy, AOSP-E has issues with SIM/SDcard here.
But I will want to go back to stock moto rom when I can (ie : full 93-8 load fastboot flashable is released).
If moto had been quicker to release Oreo AND fix the wifi bug, I would not have given up on retus.

I guess I have an even more fundamental dumb question than my twrp restore issue and maybe it belongs in another thread. Aside from advanced excel formulas, I have no programming experience of any kind, let alone android. However, it seems to me that if I have a full firmware package for 93-4 (which I do) and a "blur" ota update file that takes it to 93-8 (which I do), I should be able to create a full 93-8 firmware package file myself from those two files without waiting on the file hosting sites. Maybe this is way too advanced a process but it seems to me this is 1+2=3 variety.

craigl14 said:
I guess I have an even more fundamental dumb question than my twrp restore issue and maybe it belongs in another thread. Aside from advanced excel formulas, I have no programming experience of any kind, let alone android. However, it seems to me that if I have a full firmware package for 93-4 (which I do) and a "blur" ota update file that takes it to 93-8 (which I do), I should be able to create a full 93-8 firmware package file myself from those two files without waiting on the file hosting sites. Maybe this is way too advanced a process but it seems to me this is 1+2=3 variety.
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Your device now being at 93-8 is what's in the way. It seems like you can restore your twrp 93-4 on it, but you won't be able to relock the BL, hence OTA will not work.

CanadianGixxerman said:
Your device now being at 93-8 is what's in the way. It seems like you can restore your twrp 93-4 on it, but you won't be able to relock the BL, hence OTA will not work.
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Sorry for the confusion. My restore issue is with the fact that I did not make a full system image twrp backup of stock 93-8. If I had, I would be able to restore and take ota's (assuming the oem issue doesn't interfere which I don't know about).
My last question is more fundamental and broader. There are quite a few people waiting on firmware updates. It just seems to me that if I have a full firmware package and an update package for that firmware, I should be able to create a newly updated full firmware package independent of what happens to be on my phone at any one time. Again, maybe really stupid and way beyond my capabilities.

I'm on a slightly same boat as OP, but I don't have my backup since I thought it was on my SD and wiped my phone, with the backup only there. I was on 93-8 when I wiped. Would getting a 93-4 backup work?
This question might of been answered but I did not see it when I read through this thread.

craigl14 said:
Sorry for the confusion. My restore issue is with the fact that I did not make a full system image twrp backup of stock 93-8. If I had, I would be able to restore and take ota's (assuming the oem issue doesn't interfere which I don't know about).
My last question is more fundamental and broader. There are quite a few people waiting on firmware updates. It just seems to me that if I have a full firmware package and an update package for that firmware, I should be able to create a newly updated full firmware package independent of what happens to be on my phone at any one time. Again, maybe really stupid and way beyond my capabilities.
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I took a full backup of my system image through twrp, and I was on 93-8. I'll upload it when I have time and you can give it a try.

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Why would you need to relock the BL to take an OTA?
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My last question is more fundamental and broader. There are quite a few people waiting on firmware updates. It just seems to me that if I have a full firmware package and an update package for that firmware, I should be able to create a newly updated full firmware package independent of what happens to be on my phone at any one time. Again, maybe really stupid and way beyond my capabilities.
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Sadly you can't apply an OTA to the firmware images, if that's what you're thinking. They need to be signed by moto to be flashable through fastboot. And if you'd want to provide someone with a twrp backup of a firmware higher than theirs, their bootloader would need to be updated too, via an OTA.

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if that's what you're thinking.
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Thanks. That's exactly my question. So the answer is that Motorola controls the process. Makes sense. Any thoughts on my oem mounting question?

craigl14 said:
Thanks. That's exactly my question. So the answer is that Motorola controls the process. Makes sense. Any thoughts on my oem mounting question?
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I really can't think of a way of checking the mount count of Android partitions, and I haven't found anything online.
I discovered the mount counter thingy when sweeping through logs of a failed OTA. I'm really not sure where the OTA script reads it from.

craigl14 said:
Sorry for the confusion. My restore issue is with the fact that I did not make a full system image twrp backup of stock 93-8. If I had, I would be able to restore and take ota's (assuming the oem issue doesn't interfere which I don't know about).
My last question is more fundamental and broader. There are quite a few people waiting on firmware updates. It just seems to me that if I have a full firmware package and an update package for that firmware, I should be able to create a newly updated full firmware package independent of what happens to be on my phone at any one time. Again, maybe really stupid and way beyond my capabilities.
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I made a full backup of 93-8, but still i can't lock bootloader. We need complete firmware, until then, Lineage OS is the answer.
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Why would you need to relock the BL to take an OTA?
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No idea, i saw this first time now on Motorola. On any other manufacturers i could lock bootloader, and even get OTA updates just by flashing stock recovery and having unlocked bootloader was not a problem.

If your device was formally updated to NPNS25.137-93-8 (March 2018 security patch), then you could try to flash the NPNS25.137-93-4 (Jan 2018 security patch) update again as you previously tried (link to the Jan 2018 stock firmware for EU/US and Asia devices: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/ ). You may wish to ignore the security downgrade errors (you cannot downgrade bootloaders anyway, presumably to prevent you opening security vulnerabilities) when you flash, which should just be for GPT and bootloader. You may also see 'image signed with bad key' for recovery and boot as well, but verify those partitions, and the other partitions report [OKAY] after flashing. That way, you should have a NPNS25.137-93-4 system, with a NPNS25.137-93-8 bootloader, and when you boot you should have a device reporting with fully stock NPNS25.137-93-4. The next OTA you should receive is the NPNS25.137-93-8 OTA and then the NPNS25.137-93-10 April 2018 security patch OTA, which should bring you up to the latest stock firmware.
By reflashing the NPNS25.137-93-4 firmware, this should also restore your OEM partition to being untampered (read only status?), as should your system partition (which should be read only, I recall that swiping to allow modifications in TWRP sets your system partition to read-write, which causes the OTA to fail).
Normally, I would advise against downgrading and using OTA updates, as this is a prime way of hard bricking. However, in this case you are downgrading your device firmware to the firmware directly preceding the newest firmware you had (i.e. downgrading to NPNS25.137-93-4 from NPNS25.137-93-8), with the next OTA being NPNS25.137-93-8, which brings you back up to the build you had, this may be safe. To your device, you are flashing the same bootloader from the NPNS25.137-93-8 OTA as currently on your device, which should not hard brick.
If you previously had stock NPNS25.137-93-10, then I cannot recommend this procedure as you'll be downgrading two firmware versions (and you'll have to wait for newer stock firmware to be leaked), else if you try flashing NPNS25.137-93-4 onto the April 2018 firmware and try using OTA updates, you may hard brick and have a pricey paperweight. I also do not know if this will work by cross-flashing from the NPN25.137-92 series of updates either.
Of course, as the NPNS25.137-93-4 firmware is older than your bootloader, you will not be able to re-lock your bootloader (you'll need a newer firmware, probably the April 2018 or newer security patch stock firmware), but being back on full stock, you should be eligible for OTAs provided you only downgraded from NPNS25.137-93-8 (and that March 2018 security patch was the latest stock firmware on your device).
If you are truly concerned about hard bricking, then I would follow other member's suggestions in this thread and stay with TWRP flashables of the stock ROM, as they do not usually affect the bootloader.
Any questions or comments before you perform this procedure, please ask.

bazinga137 said:
I really can't think of a way of checking the mount count of Android partitions, and I haven't found anything online.
I discovered the mount counter thingy when sweeping through logs of a failed OTA. I'm really not sure where the OTA script reads it from.
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Thanks. Weird. Sorry for hijacking this thread. But if my process were to take OTA after which it reboots, then IMMEDIATELY reboot into bootloader, fastboot BOOT into twrp (not flash it) and take a backup of boot, logo, oem, recovery and system (FULL IMAGE), how would that change oem?

CanadianGixxerman said:
Well, I did that. I have tried a few cutom roms : Pixel Exprerience, Resurection Remix, AOSP extended, AOSiP and Dirty Unicorns. The latter and AOSiP are those I find the most reliable. Avoid PE and RR, too buggy, AOSP-E has issues with SIM/SDcard here.
But I will want to go back to stock moto rom when I can (ie : full 93-8 load fastboot flashable is released).
If moto had been quicker to release Oreo AND fix the wifi bug, I would not have given up on retus.
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What's buggy about PE? I was just about to try it...

Final Official Oreo 8.1.0 Release - OPP28.85-16 OTA

I've just captured the Official OPP28.85-16 OTA for retail cedric and I'm posting it here. I'm on retbr channel but this will work on any retail device. If you're on another updated channel, I don't know what would happen if you installed this.
Notice that to install this YOU MUST be on NPPS25.137-93-2-5 to install these, since OTA's are not full firmwares like fastboot files, but instead they're patchings tailored to be applied upon a specific firmare - NPPS25.137-93-2-5 in this case.
Another particular detail is that the OTA file (gotten directly from my credric) lists the Blur Version as Blur_Version.25.361.10.cedric.retail.en.US, but curiously, the fastboot version for the same firmware ( which you can download here) lists it as Blur_Version.28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US
Someone also reported in another thread that they just sideloaded this upon the Second Soak test. I wouldn't doubt it since this is what should happen to regular soak testers, but if you do it, DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK
I also won't post instructions on how to install this since they're already available here
Download
Gdrive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/149hrGFpuWUgAvJr02McYNwJVaqSvllYO/view?usp=sharing
That's it.

changelog?

Has anyone already tried it?

Since this is a (Delta) OTA Update that expects NPPS25.137-93-2-5 (Blur_Version.25.361.10) it should be correctly named "block_delta-ota-Blur_Version.25.361.10-28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US" in my view.
Someone also reported in another thread that they just sideloaded this upon the Second Soak test.
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I'm on the 2nd soak test update OPP28.85-13.
Just tried to flash the update from SD card and ADB sideload.
Update failed due to wrong version.
E3002: Package expects build thumbprint of 8.1.0/OPP28.85-16/0400:user/release-keys or 7.0/NPPS25.137-93-2-5/10:user/release-keys; this device has 8.1.0/OPP28.85-13/789a:user/release-keys.

JoeDoe0 said:
Since this is a (Delta) OTA Update that expects NPPS25.137-93-2-5 (Blur_Version.25.361.10) it should be correctly named "block_delta-ota-Blur_Version.25.361.10-28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US" in my view.
I'm on the 2nd soak test update OPP28.85-13.
Just tried to flash the update from SD card and ADB sideload.
Update failed due to wrong version.
E3002: Package expects build thumbprint of 8.1.0/OPP28.85-16/0400:user/release-keys or 7.0/NPPS25.137-93-2-5/10:user/release-keys; this device has 8.1.0/OPP28.85-13/789a:user/release-keys.
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seems like it can be updated. from. soak test then, but I never heard nor did I find anything about OPP25. 85-16 build. maybe there was a third soak test and we don't know about it

Works perfect
Hi,
i used the above Image in Germany and i am now on Oreo 8.1
Everything works perfect. First i had a little bit trouble due to an old Version of ADB Tools, but after Update ADB to current Version the Update to Oreo took something around 30min.
Build 28.85-16
Oreo 8.1
Software Channel reteu
Patch Level 01.08.2018

bori321 said:
Hi,
i used the above Image in Germany and i am now on Oreo 8.1
Everything works perfect. First i had a little bit trouble due to an old Version of ADB Tools, but after Update ADB to current Version the Update to Oreo took something around 30min.
Build 28.85-16
Oreo 8.1
Software Channel reteu
Patch Level 01.08.2018
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On which version you were before update?

Firmware
Hi,
before update to Oreo i flashed NPPS25.137-93-2-5 Firmware and after that the Image from this thread.
Worked perfect.
Alex
I tried to post a Screenshot but it was not possible because i am a new member...

Update failed due to wrong version.
E3002: Package expects build thumbprint of 8.1.0/OPP28.85-16/0400:user/release-keys or 7.0/NPPS25.137-93-2-5/10:user/release-keys; this device has 8.1.0/OPP28.85-13/789a:user/release-keys.
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freeZbies said:
seems like it can be updated. from. soak test then, but I never heard nor did I find anything about OPP25. 85-16 build. maybe there was a third soak test and we don't know about it
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Update fails from OPP28.85-13 since it expects either OPP28.85-16 which is the latest Oreo build (that I want to update to) or the latest Nougat NPPS25.137-93-2-5.
There is no OPP25. 85-16 build! I think you misread the error message.
BTW I updated from OPP28.85-13 to -16 using the full fastboot version and it worked out perfectly.

JoeDoe0 said:
Update fails from OPP28.85-13 since it expects either OPP28.85-16 which is the latest Oreo build (that I want to update to) or the latest Nougat NPPS25.137-93-2-5.
There is no OPP25. 85-16 build! I think you misread the error message.
BTW I updated from OPP28.85-13 to -16 using the full fastboot version and it worked out perfectly.
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yeah, I actually misread it, now I see it.
Anyways, flashing it from fastboot doesn't prove anything. but seems like Cedric can be upgraded from the soak test to final version using this ota. Idk because I used fastboot myself too, since I had already modified my system partition.

AsusZenFone3Deluxe said:
changelog?
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seriously?
stop joking, Motorola doesn't release changelogs.
but I'll try:
updated from nougat to oreo?
duhhh

how is speaker quality in this build ?
because there is some issues in previous oreo builds

Speaker
Hi,
i would say that for my ears the speaker sounds better than it was with Nougat.
After a few days of testing everything works really good and i have not found anything not working or any problems.
Alex

bori321 said:
Hi,
before update to Oreo i flashed NPPS25.137-93-2-5 Firmware and after that the Image from this thread.
Worked perfect.
Alex
I tried to post a Screenshot but it was not possible because i am a new member...
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how do you get back to NPPS25.137-93-2-5

I followed the steps from this Thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development/stock-upgrade-to-official-stock-oreo-8-t3823598
- Unlocked bootloader (don't know of this is necessary)
- back to NPPS25.137-93-2-5 via the commands from the thread i linked (without the lines:
fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot flash fsg fsg.mbn
)
- via ADB sideload with the Oreo download from this thread to Oreo.
Alex

ahmedAZ said:
how is speaker quality in this build ?
because there is some issues in previous oreo builds
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In my experience the quality is better than on previous oreo builds.
ahmedAZ said:
how do you get back to NPPS25.137-93-2-5
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if you have an unlocked bootloader download NPPS25.137-93-2-5 Flashable Zip here and flash it with twrp
bori321 said:
I followed the steps from this Thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development/stock-upgrade-to-official-stock-oreo-8-t3823598
- Unlocked bootloader (don't know of this is necessary)
Alex
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to flash official Motorola files there's no need to unlock the bootloader.
you've just unnecessarily voided your warranty

@freeZbies
Hey is that twrp stock rom (137-93-2-5) the only thing we need to flash before going for the ota ? Cause I've been told that we needed to be on a completely unmodified system partition in order to receive the ota. In that case just flashing twrp stock wouldn't be sufficient right?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-official-stock-oreo-8-t3823598/post77713117

Chekm8Qc said:
@freeZbies
Hey is that twrp stock rom (137-93-2-5) the only thing we need to flash before going for the ota ? Cause I've been told that we needed to be on a completely unmodified system partition in order to receive the ota. In that case just flashing twrp stock wouldn't be sufficient right?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-official-stock-oreo-8-t3823598/post77713117
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I dont know if the twrp version would be valid. To apply an OTA, your system must matchbit by bit, so the most guaranteed way is to flash that firmware via fastboot, but you could try flashing the twrp version, and in case it works, you could post the results here.
just dont forget that if the ota fails youll soft brick ur phonr and will only be able to recover it via fastboot

freeZbies said:
I dont know if the twrp version would be valid. To apply an OTA, your system must match stick bit by bit, so the most guaranteed way is to flash that firmware via fastboot, but. you could try flashing the twrp version, and in case it. woeks you could post the results here.
just dont forget that if the ota fails youll soft brick ur phonr and will only be able to recover it via fastboot
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Thanks I'll keep that in mind
Being soft bricked,, wouldn't I be able to use twrp still? Like to flash a valid rom or one of my backups?
Anyways I can't really try it that way since the update hasn't come to me yet I'm on software channel Retca.
Edit : right I forgot that I could just use the official ota available here if I would like to test it.

Chekm8Qc said:
Thanks I'll keep that in mind
Being soft bricked,, wouldn't I be able to use twrp still? Like to flash a valid rom or one of my backups?
Anyways I can't really try it that way since the update hasn't come to me yet I'm on software channel Retca.
Edit : right I forgot that I could just use the official ota available here if I would like to test it.
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being soft bricked doesnt necessarily mean you can recover it through twrp. OTA's are different of twrp flashables in that it modifies things beyond system partition. I've seen reports from people with other motorola devices who applied an OTA while having a modified system partition, and even though they were able to boot to twrp, flashing a custom Rom or restore a backup wouldn't make the phone boot. Their phones weren't hard bricked, but still they had to fastboot to recover their phones. Anyways, why don't you flash the Twrp flashable if, it's already available (considering you have an unlocked bootloader).
I'm case you have a locked bootloader you may fastboot without executing "fastboot erase userdata" in case you want to try. I did it without losing my data (although I was already in Opp 28.85-16)
but after all I really advice you to flash the twrp zip if u can