I hope this update isn't crap. I plugged my SM-T813 into SmartSwitch to do a backup, and it said there was an update available. It is version T813XXS2BRB1/T813XAR2BRB1. It is only 60MB, so clearly not a major android version change. I'd put up a screen shot of the What's New, but it is utterly useless. It only gives a completely generic "A software update can include..." statement. January 1, 2018 security patch level, which is good.
Other than the expected extra long reboot, I don't notice any difference. Except for the rainbows shooting out of the top of the tablet, and the fresh spring scent it's emitting. That's new.
Yep, I got the same one yesterday.
It's just the quarterly security update - boosts you to the January security date. I haven't noticed any other changes so far.
Got this update today March 5 2018. I have a tab s2 t810. My update was over 300mb. I was thinking I was getting the Oreo update but I was wrong.
Downloading new update right now... 378.85 MB
Version T813XXU2BRB2
the only change i seen from this update was a different updated splash screen. i cant beleve it took till March to get a security update from January. i really wish google still made affordable nexus and pixel tablets
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First off let me say I Do Not intend for this to be another whine thread....
Just wanted to reach out and see if anyone has had any signs of an update. I recall from one of the previous now closed threads started one user mentioned the 5th as being a possible date. Though seemingly arbitrary date the 5th is here.
People chime in if you get the notification!
Nothing for me yet.
It probably won't come out until the new Google phones do. I know it's difficult for flashaholics, but be patient.
Now I'm waiting for the September security update for Marshmallow, maybe it will be late too. They seem to be in a huge work.
This thread is the best sign.
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First off let me say I Do Not intend for this to be another whine thread....
Just wanted to reach out and see if anyone has had any signs of an update. I recall from one of the previous now closed threads started one user mentioned the 5th as being a possible date. Though seemingly arbitrary date the 5th is here.
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That's what intended mine to be, but it went south so fast! Lol no sign for me yet, I'm hoping maybe by tonight. It's REALLY behind said release date. Staying optimistic!
This is the only sign from Google I have seen.
Absolutely notting here. Not even the sept security update.
There will be a September in 2017,too
If I'm remembering the same post, a user speculated that the update would be tied to the September monthly security update. That seemed like pure speculation. I hope the updates are posted soon but I don't think today will be the day, since it is already the afternoon and a business holiday. Hope I'm wrong!
Hope it's soon.
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If I'm remembering the same post, a user speculated that the update would be tied to the September monthly security update. That seemed like pure speculation. I hope the updates are posted soon but I don't think today will be the day, since it is already the afternoon and a business holiday. Hope I'm wrong!
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Maybe tomorrow then, I forgot it was a holiday. What gets me is how they got everyone all riled up that it was gonna be in August, and it's gonna be out at the same time haha
Yeah Im ready for the official build too, this NPD90G preview wants me to want more, or at least some minor fixes.
No updates.............there will be speculations.
No speculations.....probably updates.
From what I've heard Qualcomm needs to do some driver upgrades for full Android N Support. If that is the case, it would explain why Google hasn't released the update yet, they simply can't until Qualcomm delivers. I can imagine Qualcomm has their hands full at the moment with all the smartphone companies out their requesting driver updates to support Android N as well.
I don't have any references for this, as I read it in a post somewhere but don't remember where. Don't take my word for it. But of course it would be interesting if someone could confirm or deny this.
I don't expect the update any time soon, but at least the latest beta runs very smoothly on my device. Can't complain at the moment.
Thats what has confused me DP5 runs well so id have thought it was near release quality but I guess not with the update taking so long. As far as qualcomm surely google should be the highest priority for drivers/updates given that they build the entire base that all other android phones base off? So an N driver for a specific SoC should work for all devices using that SoC?
I'm pretty satisfied with the Uber N ROM as is.
What @onemandivision said is correct, driver updates are critical. It's not just the kernel and the android base.
I'm a little confused by the delay though since it is already clear that phones on chips older than snapdragon 800/801 won't get nougat (ie 65-70% of all android phones according to some surveys), so there should be very few drivers to update/fine tune? Am I wrong?
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september update , my s7 edge still has the july update , samsung are dam slow pushing updates , my nexus 6 has the latest dev update but hope oneday soon the real 7.0 comes out.
New Marshmallow Image up... (MOB31E)
Although I've lost track of when exactly they were pushed out by Lenovorola, I seem to recall my MotoX PE getting a November, then February, security patch and the "latest" May 2016 was pushed around July 20th... If that pattern (pushing out every 3rd Google release ~ 10 weeks later) holds true, might we see the August patch pushed later this month? Or will any more 6.0 patches be skipped in light of the future 7.x upgrade (whenever that may be)?
One of the reasons why I'm sticking with CM. they are on Oct. 5th security patch while the normal stock ROM is far behind
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One of the reasons why I'm sticking with CM. they are on Oct. 5th security patch while the normal stock ROM is far behind
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I hear you... One of the reasons I bought a Nexus 5X in June when the price dropped. But looking at my MotoX since then reminds me it's otherwise a better phone imho (VoLTE works fine for me on TMo).
Question: I assume you had to unlock your bootloader to root and run CM ? If so, can you relock in that state? I had to unroot and flash stock multiple times before I was finally able to relock... I could be completely wrong, but I would think the benefit of timely, monthly security updates is outweighed by an unlocked bootloader and root access?
According to a twitter reply from Moto Support, they ditched even the quarterly security update.
" We're implementing essential patches.As new security issues emerge, we will evaluate them and update your phone as needed.-Maya"
Evaluating, means they may or may not release security patches so do not hold your breath for an August updated. Yet, Moto Support on twitter was very quick to reply the first inquiry. I encourage everyone to contact them with questions @Moto_Support Let them know or demands!
After years of keeping an old tablet alive with Cyanogenmod, I needed a new tablet and decided to be content with a stock ROM this time. So I ordered a Galaxy Tab A 10.1 (SM-T580 XAR) after reading positive reviews of the hardware. I knew that there was little likelihood of a third-party ROM for the Exnyos processor but I assumed (perhaps naively) I would have a year or two of support/updates from Samsung.
So I was shocked upon booting the tablet to find that the most recent update is on the July 1 mad: !?!?) security patch from Google, meaning that this new SM-T580 is still vulnerable to several nasty Stagefright vulnerabilities. I kept pressing system update, thinking this must be a mistake, only to find that this supposedly new machine is already woefully out-of-date. Regular security updates should not only be a "bonus feature" for flagship devices; in my view, manufacturers have the responsibility to support all their new hardware with timely security updates. I knew that many manufacturers had poor support for Android, but I assumed (perhaps naively) that Samsung was different.
Is this typical of Samsung? From your experience, how often do non-flagship devices receive security updates?
I'm planning to return the tablet as defective unless there is hope of regular updates in the future.
One additional bit of information/question: The Galaxy Tab A SM-T550 (9.7", 2015, wifi) has received more regular updates than the the newer SM-T580 (10.1", 2016, wifi). Both U.S. models received an update in July, but the 2015 version received an additional update in September with the critical September security patches. So the older tablet has been getting more frequent updates?
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After years of keeping an old tablet alive with Cyanogenmod, I needed a new tablet and decided to be content with a stock ROM this time. So I ordered a Galaxy Tab A 10.1 (SM-T580 XAR) after reading positive reviews of the hardware. I knew that there was little likelihood of a third-party ROM for the Exnyos processor but I assumed (perhaps naively) I would have a year or two of support/updates from Samsung.
So I was shocked upon booting the tablet to find that the most recent update is on the July 1 mad: !?!?) security patch from Google, meaning that this new SM-T580 is still vulnerable to several nasty Stagefright vulnerabilities. I kept pressing system update, thinking this must be a mistake, only to find that this supposedly new machine is already woefully out-of-date. Regular security updates should not only be a "bonus feature" for flagship devices; in my view, manufacturers have the responsibility to support all their new hardware with timely security updates. I knew that many manufacturers had poor support for Android, but I assumed (perhaps naively) that Samsung was different.
Is this typical of Samsung? From your experience, how often do non-flagship devices receive security updates?
I'm planning to return the tablet as defective unless there is hope of regular updates in the future.
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I agree, I am also in the same situation, July 1. LG is the same, I got the G4 (2015) flagship which is also on July's patch. After the whole stagefright thing died down OEMs have pretty much shelved the whole monthly update promises, except for Google ofc.
Same here. I'm returning mine due lack of updates. That and the fact it weighs a ton! Hate to praise Apple but at least they patch their OS!
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Same here. I'm returning mine due lack of updates. That and the fact it weighs a ton! Hate to praise Apple but at least they patch their OS!
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Wow ok. The security updates (or lack of should I say) don't bother me too much, as long as the tablet gets nougat which it almost certainly will, I'm happy. To the average user the security updates meaning nothing, just make sure the unknown sources option is unchecked and you should be fine (also always install reputable apps/from Google Play).
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Wow ok. The security updates (or lack of should I say) don't bother me too much, as long as the tablet gets nougat which it almost certainly will, I'm happy. To the average user the security updates meaning nothing, just make sure the unknown sources option is unchecked and you should be fine (also always install reputable apps/from Google Play).
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Trouble is it's not just the apps, the apps pull down ads which can be compromised (check out this securityweek page) . If you use the browser you're at risk just as you would be on an unpatched PC. If you look at the release notes for the monthly security patches Google release they nearly always have half a dozen critical vulnerabilities. That means your device is at risk.
I just think it's unacceptable for a company like Samsung to leave their customers vulnerable and I won't support them for that reason.
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Trouble is it's not just the apps, the apps pull down ads which can be compromised (check out this securityweek page) . If you use the browser you're at risk just as you would be on an unpatched PC. If you look at the release notes for the monthly security patches Google release they nearly always have half a dozen critical vulnerabilities. That means your device is at risk.
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In the case of this particular bug, one would be protected by disabling app installs from Unknown Sources; it still requires the user action of installing an apk. And this particular bug is a problem with Chrome, rather than the Android core. Unlike the vulnerabilities addressed in the monthly security patch, this one can be fixed via the play store.
The bigger danger comes from the mediaserver bugs - theoretically, a website could host a multimedia file that would cause the mediaserver to crash, thereby gaining the ability to execute code remotely. I have no idea how feasible this is or whether there are exploits for the recent mediaserver bugs in the wild, but that's why timely patches are important.
I simply don't understand why it is so hard for Samsung to apply these patches and rebuild the rom. Custom rom maintainers do it all the time -- how hard can it be for a company with the vast resources of Samsung? These aren't major overhauls of the code -- just minor fixes.
Yeah some of the vulnerabilities mentioned can be serious, and it is true, a company as large as Samsung really has no excuse not to deliver the patches, they previously pledged to keep devices patched-so much for that.
So I decided to keep the tablet and I am regretting it. We're in January and still no security patches...
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So I decided to keep the tablet and I am regretting it. We're in January and still no security patches...
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I sent mine back because of the numerous issues I had, still awaiting my refund.
But I ended up buying the 7" Tab A which with I am satisfied, no issues, running Sept patch but on Lollipop. Though it is fit for purpose, I see it as a large chunk of money saved. :victory:
£90 for the 7" vs £170 for the 10.1", huge difference.
the SM-T580 and the SM-P580 got the updates recently:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-a/how-to/tab-sm-p580-update-t3528298
security patch is from december, 1st, 2016
Still no updates
I don't feel very secure using this device. Very disappointed with Samsung and won't be buying another Samsung product based on the less than satisfactory support for the T580.
Just went ahead and flashed the latest german rom with odin. Everything went fine and now i'm on the december security patch.
Can you change the language to English from the German rom?
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Can you change the language to English from the German rom?
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Yes you can. All languages are there. I 'm using it in Dutch.
Received an update today - patch level 1st January 2017
I had an update yesterday and my T585 now says security patch January 17
Doesn't it seem odd slow updates from Google they patched they official 8.0 builds with the security patches but have left 8.1 alone. I heard there was supposed to be a new build at the end of the month and is mainly due to some features in the pixel 2s their also going to release a new build for all the pixels.. however it seems like they held back the security patch in 8.1 due to putting it in this new build..
I don't recall them ever doing security updates on Dev previews.
Something must be going on. They removed the timetable for dev preview. It showed 2nd preview middle of november, but today it's gone.
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Something must be going on. They removed the timetable for dev preview. It showed 2nd preview middle of november, but today it's gone.
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Still showing an update for some point in November....
https://developer.android.com/preview/overview.html
Went through many news and YT videos, they are claiming that we will get Oreo 8.0 update till the end of this month i.e., May'18.
Can anyone verify this more accurately?
By the way I don't oreo update from Motorola/Lenovo since when we have XDA.
Using AEX ( Thanks @ishubhamsingh for the awesome work) from a long time.
While commenting mention your ROM too.
Anything other than official updates should be ignored. Other sources usually have no proof and are pretty much just clickbait.
Still waiting
Got the May OTA security update via TMO today. Still no Oreo.
I am inclined to believe that our phones will not be getting Oreo, ever. Motorola's strategy seems to be to kick the can down the road until they can say our phones are "no longer supported." They've left us at the side of the road for dead.
Eventually, when I get a replacement for this phone, it will not be a Motorola.
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Got the May OTA security update via TMO today. Still no Oreo.
I am inclined to believe that our phones will not be getting Oreo, ever. Motorola's strategy seems to be to kick the can down the road until they can say our phones are "no longer supported." They've left us at the side of the road for dead.
Eventually, when I get a replacement for this phone, it will not be a Motorola.
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May update? What device are you on? So far I've seen people on either March or April update plus some rare cases where some haven't received even earlier OTAs
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May update? What device are you on? So far I've seen people on either March or April update plus some rare cases where some haven't received even earlier OTAs
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Moto G5 Plus/potter. I just got a security update today, is that not the May security update?
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Moto G5 Plus/potter. I just got a security update today, is that not the May security update?
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The month will be mentioned in the changelog. Just tap the update notification and you'll see which month's security update you've received. Let me know
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The month will be mentioned in the changelog. Just tap the update notification and you'll see which month's security update you've received. Let me know
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Says "April 1, 2018." Silly me, I thought that I'd get a May security update in May.