Axon 7 as an external soundcard/DAC? - ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers

Hi,
I asked myself if it is possible to use the Axon 7 as an external soundcard/DAC for my PC (Win 10), because of the AKM 32-bit DAC in the phone.
I already asked this in the german ZTE forum, but there wasn´t a real answer, except that this is only possible with Root. I hope there is another way to do this, bacause I don´t want to root the A7
After some research I found an app called "SoundWire" which does this job some kind over WLAN. But 1. it has a delay (what is bad for gaming) 2. I think it ignores the phone-DAC (what is good for normal phones) and 3. it only streams in 16 bit, so if 2. is wrong the sound wouldn´t be as good as it would be if it is directly played from the smartphone.
To conclude: I am searching for a way to use the A7 as an external soundcard/DAC over USB for my laptop to get better sound
I forgot to mention that I have the Global version (I live in germany), A2017G.
I really hope this is possible and maybe one of you has already done this.

This would be awesome. Just posted on the ZTE forum asking for this feature on the new OREO build.

Felixjots said:
Hi,
I asked myself if it is possible to use the Axon 7 as an external soundcard/DAC for my PC (Win 10), because of the AKM 32-bit DAC in the phone.
I already asked this in the german ZTE forum, but there wasn´t a real answer, except that this is only possible with Root. I hope there is another way to do this, bacause I don´t want to root the A7
After some research I found an app called "SoundWire" which does this job some kind over WLAN. But 1. it has a delay (what is bad for gaming) 2. I think it ignores the phone-DAC (what is good for normal phones) and 3. it only streams in 16 bit, so if 2. is wrong the sound wouldn´t be as good as it would be if it is directly played from the smartphone.
To conclude: I am searching for a way to use the A7 as an external soundcard/DAC over USB for my laptop to get better sound
I forgot to mention that I have the Global version (I live in germany), A2017G.
I really hope this is possible and maybe one of you has already done this.
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It's only 24bit 192000 Hz actually (limited by software). and no, you can't use it as an external sound card unless you could transmit all that data by digital through usb and let it process on the phone. Soundwire is utter crap, it's just bad.

And If you have root? Then its easier?

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It's only 24bit 192000 Hz actually (limited by software). and no, you can't use it as an external sound card unless you could transmit all that data by digital through usb and let it process on the phone. Soundwire is utter crap, it's just bad.
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Are you sure it is only 24 bit? Then it is somekind of fake, that there is a AKM 4490EN in the Axon 7, because this one comes only in 32 bit. (There will be this chip inside, but its just marketing, then "real")

Felixjots said:
Are you sure it is only 24 bit? Then it is somekind of fake, that there is a AKM 4490EN in the Axon 7, because this one comes only in 32 bit. (There will be this chip inside, but its just marketing, then "real")
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Lol no, the software limits it to 192K 24 bit. Yes I know that the DAC itself should go up to 384k and 32 bit. but that's just the way it was programmed. Every Axon before this one has had the same DAC and they didn't have more.

Short Answer : No
Long Answer : While not impossible, the chances of it happening are next to none. Outside of some FiiO products, ive never seen the feature on any piece any hardware, let alone a phone.
IMHO you'd be better off finding of of the many affordable usb dac options that already exist

Ok, thank you guys.

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[Kernel]- Usb Audio support - Initial idea

Hi Devs.
After doing a little research, its seems that USB audio support is enabled in the S3 kernel. There seems to be a fair bit of support for implenting this feature accross a range of devices.
I also note that the cheap C-media chips are recognised by the S3 kernel. So I'm going to buy one, as they are cheap as chips. I realise the sound quality won't be up to much but its a step in the right direction, as I don't currently have and other USB audio devices.
So, I fancy a little kernel compiling. I have done this on linux systems many years ago and I still compile the odd program when I have to. There seem to be some kernel compiling good guides, but I am wondering if anyone else is looking into this feature, or can suggest a good place to start. Is it worth starting with an S3 kernel, (I guess not) or should I start from scratch, or another kernel I like? Anything I compile and test will have cifs support, as its something I can't do without.
I also see the Glados kernel for Nexus already has USB audio support.
Obviously I'm aware of the emmc erase issue, so starting with sources that disable this feature would be a good idea.
Am I completely mental or is this worth having a go at? I'm willing to wait a while if its too dangerous to try until Samsung release a fix for the SuperBrick.
I'll admit I'm rusty, but I have successfully complied kernels in the past.
Any comments will be graciously be recieved!
OK, no love for USB audio. Looks like I'm on my own then!
+1 for USB audio
Galaxy note Paranoid Android 1.7ghz goodness
audio over usb
Galaxy Note has USB audio support too. Take a look at Samsung EDD-D1E1 Dockingstation for Samsung Galaxy Note. it's with Line-Out for external speaker.
The note doesn't supply much power in the USB OTG configuration so may need to be an externally powered unit, or running via a hub.
As NBLive says, the car dock has a USB --> 3.5mm option which works fine with the Note (I was using it about 2 hours ago), so the support is there, we just need driver support for "generic" units.
It's also pretty much a non-issue for the S3 anyway as it's got the good Wolfson DAC rather than the crappy Yamaha (iirc) one the Note has.
NBLive said:
Galaxy Note has USB audio support too. Take a look at Samsung EDD-D1E1 Dockingstation for Samsung Galaxy Note. it's with Line-Out for external speaker.
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As I recall it the dockingstation only have analog audio (not usb audio but it might use the same connector), I have the dock somewhere, will check when I find it.
To OP, you are absolutely not alone on this one, It is one of the most requested features on Android (link).
There are also a few threads in the forum.
slinbin said:
As I recall it the dockingstation only have analog audio (not usb audio but it might use the same connector), I have the dock somewhere, will check when I find it.
To OP, you are absolutely not alone on this one, It is one of the most requested features on Android (link).
There are also a few threads in the forum.
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You are correct. The dockstation is just a usb connector with the sense pin 4 having a resistor of a certain value connected to ground, telling to phone to output analogue audio to the data lines of the usb circuit. This is similar to how the phone senses a USB OTG or MHL-HDMI cable.
What I'm talking about here is USB audio device driver support at the kernel level. Currently its not compiled into the Note's but is supported for a limited number of devices in the galaxy S3 kernel. Simplistically put, the phone doesn't have the drivers.
I've looked around at various config files in the Note and am now wondering if SPDIF audio can be outputted over USB. However, I could be wrong as the there is a lot of ancient crap left over from linux configs from 10 years ago, for instance, config files for Turtle Beach sound cards!
The other option is to use the MHL-HDMI adaptor and then an HDMI to digital audio but that's a bit clunky and given that the S3 can do what we want, it shouldn't be too hard.
The advantages of this are a higher quality audio, multi channel output from DTS surround Vidoe and audio and stereo line in recording. Although android is not the greatest OS for audio work due to latency issues, USB audio support is a step towards iphone like audio recording/mixing and effects work. The S3 can also support much higher Bit rates and sampling frequencies, upto 24bit/192kHz. Far better than CD quality, let alone mp3.
Many people can't hear or don't care for higher quality audio. I for one can tell the difference between mp3 and CD or FLAC. To be honest, listening to mp3's can sometimes be painful to my ears. If you can't hear the difference, imagine being forced to listen to everything on an AM radio!
Sorry to blabber on lol
knightnz said:
The note doesn't supply much power in the USB OTG configuration so may need to be an externally powered unit, or running via a hub.
As NBLive says, the car dock has a USB --> 3.5mm option which works fine with the Note (I was using it about 2 hours ago), so the support is there, we just need driver support for "generic" units.
It's also pretty much a non-issue for the S3 anyway as it's got the good Wolfson DAC rather than the crappy Yamaha (iirc) one the Note has.
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Reports are coming in that the Woflson DACs are not sounding so good. The Car docks do not have any kind of DAC in them.
+1, This would be great if I could use my Fiio E17 on note!
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I can build a kernel with that for you.. I guess. if nothing fails to build.
I'm using a custom kernel that I've had built for myself. Its basicly a Speedmod kernel with some modules (USB ethernet).
Do you have any chip in mind? I can make a CWM package to you.
It will be a Speedmod kernel with the modules.
Remember that Its not a kernel module thay you Want. I don't know if Android will recognize it and play out thru it.
mdrjr said:
I can build a kernel with that for you.. I guess. if nothing fails to build.
I'm using a custom kernel that I've had built for myself. Its basicly a Speedmod kernel with some modules (USB ethernet).
Do you have any chip in mind? I can make a CWM package to you.
It will be a Speedmod kernel with the modules.
Remember that Its not a kernel module thay you Want. I don't know if Android will recognize it and play out thru it.
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Thanks a lot, saves me setting up a dev environment. I'm still struggling to get a stable laptop and I really don't wanna start doing critical stuff with it (fingers crossed, no hard video hangs with ubuntu 12.04!)
Try compiling for the cheapo c-media chipsets. They are only £1.50 and one is in the post. Think the driver is called cs4281 or something similar and are used in loads of crappy speakers/headphones.
I have read reports that these are recognised under dmesg on the S3.
If this is successful, they I might buy a better USB DAC.
I wonder if the yamaha chip can be persuaded to output spdif over usb. This would enable a wider (and cheaper!) range of DAC's to be used. There is support for ie958 under alsa in android........just a thought.
EDIT: hold off till I get the usb sound device. Some of them are using newer chipsets. I will plug it in to a linux machine and let you know what it is.
I would really benefit being able to plug my YETI microphone into my note for journalism. I remember vaguely looking at it a while ago where people were saying that you need to edit a file (to fake drivers or something) but in the end they were waiting on Google to release audio USB drivers.
I'm only a noob so take what I say with a pinch of salt.
+1
I would love to be able to plug a USB mic into the Note for audio recording.
I don't know if it will solve the latency problems that Android has, but the better audio quality would be good.
reconchrist said:
I would really benefit being able to plug my YETI microphone into my note for journalism. I remember vaguely looking at it a while ago where people were saying that you need to edit a file (to fake drivers or something) but in the end they were waiting on Google to release audio USB drivers.
I'm only a noob so take what I say with a pinch of salt.
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richlum said:
+1
I would love to be able to plug a USB mic into the Note for audio recording.
I don't know if it will solve the latency problems that Android has, but the better audio quality would be good.
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I currently have a logitech usb mic to test with also but I have to stress, this testing is just intitial driver support. There probably won't be any programs that will be able to select inputs for recording. I may be able to write a script to select an alternative input device but we are still quite far from this goal.
Glad to see things gaining traction. Hopefully google and samsung are already far ahead and will release something soon.
I would like to see the S3 sources though!
I've been looking through the S3 kernel source. Under /drivers/usb/gadget/ there a various drivers and headers called f_audio.c, u_audio.c, u_audio.h.
Also the Kconfig file details on how to implement these drivers into the kernel. It seems to me that if these can be compiled sucessfully for the Note kernel, it should just be a matter of changing alsa config files to at least initially get audio input/output support for usb audio devices.
Can't wait to have a go!
Someone else will have to write an app to do the device selection in a nice way. That side of things is beyond me.
Downloading the Note kernel source to compare.
Do you know if android uses any sound manager?
My worst fear is that we can't play sound thru it.
Getting a USB device to be recognized by the kernel is easy. All I need to do is to build a kernel with that extra module.
Load the module and boom. Kernel should recognize it.
How about Android sets his output to that new device?
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+1, This would be great if I could use my Fiio E17 on note!
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That's the kind of cake I wanna eat.....
Have your music in one place listen to lowQ when thats enough and highQ when you want that (with a extra box on the side, but the music and control stays in the Note).
I feel like if android natively supported exterior USB audio better. The app potential would be huge for audio out apps and simple 2-8 track recording apps among other things
Galaxy note Paranoid Android 1.7ghz goodness
Always looking to improve sound quality. Thanks for thinking outside the box. Hope it all works out in our favour. Suck it iphones xD.
Dynamano said:
Always looking to improve sound quality. Thanks for thinking outside the box. Hope it all works out in our favour. Suck it iphones xD.
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Whilst I don't like Apple products at all, audio is the one area that an Android user just hangs his head in shame when someone with iOS shows them what they can do on their iphone or ipad.
I'm hoping Android gets a low latency solution soon, but even then, it will be a long way till Android if close to being on par with iOS for audio apps.

Galaxy s2 i9100 USB AUDIO status

Hi guys,
there is a lot of speculation on this matter,
and it seems that after the gs3, note 2 and other devices release, the interest of this project by the developers vanished.
I want to know if there is anyone that is making progress with this matter.
Maybe some custom rom that i'm not aware of,
maybe some kernel that i'm not aware of.
At the moment it seems that the situation is really bad.
I've found an app on the store that states that "Samsung blocks usb audio devices on the S1, S2, and note 1". But they have plenty of stock phones and tablets that work with the app for a usb audio output.
I really hope that someone is trying to do something for us.
Thank you very much all
I remember there was a lot of talk about this when details of ICS first started getting leaked cause it supposedly had support for USB audio naively coded into it. I think a few people tried with a few devices but didn't have much luck and it wasn't really investigated very well afterwards (someone correct me if i'm wrong, i'm going on memory from a year ago). When the S3 dropped people tried it with a range of USB DACs and it works with many, but not all.
I've not seen anything new about the subject on here for a while, i've been looking out for it and i'd have expected it to have been big news.
Anyway, these people over at head-fi seem to think the S2 is compatible and recognises the USB audio output, but will not output through that channel, and that it just needs some developer to code something to force audio through that channel. Thread is now cold. I've got limited coding experience and it doesn't sound like the hardest job, which makes me think theres more too it. Waiting to head if someone else knows anything.
maybe I don't understand correctly what USB Audio really means, but the original Samsung car holder outputs analog audio when phone is plugged into USB slot.
crisagatie said:
maybe I don't understand correctly what USB Audio really means, but the original Samsung car holder outputs analog audio when phone is plugged into USB slot.
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I know very well the post on head-fi you mention as i'm a contributor.
The problem of the USB audio is a different problem from the car holder you mention.
What we basically want is an output of the DIGITAL audio from the usb, because we want to bypass the internal audio DAC, because it is really poor, and the output impedance of the galaxy s2 is terribly high.
If we can achieve the DIGITAL audio through usb we could convert and amp our sounds via an external DAC/AMP bypassing the internal DAC of the Galaxy s2, the Yamahaa, wich is really crap.
At the moment it is impossible for the galaxy s2 to achieve this because samsung blocks that.
The galaxy s3 is capable of this, and no one is coding something or is interested to achieve a result for our phone.
I also think that this post will go deep down the forum and goodbye.
Sad enough
Doesn't work & you hit the nail on the head; no developer will touch it. Many have been asked over the past 18 mths or so, a few have had a proper look & all have gone 'nope'. Too many proprietary Samsung blobs involved, you mess with one blob you break something else, etc, etc.
As the phone has been superceded by the S3 months ago now, the chances of finding a developer to get this done is pretty much zero. Don't bother offering money, that won't help. That one has been tried here as well; at one stage we had pledges totaling in the high 100's of $ & that did pique anyone's interest.
Better off getting an S3 if you want that kind of thing, and chances are you wouldn't need it with the S3 anyway because it has a Wolfson DAC & the sound is probably pretty reasonable. I haven't auditioned it myself as I have a good dedicated media player, which frankly is probably the WTG if you're really unhappy with the sound out of the SGS2.
Check out this item I found on eBay:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251063674228
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Yes, there is support for USB Dock Audio, but how does it work? I bet the dock itself doesn't have any DAC or other audio processing modules so maybe it's just MHL supported? But in other way, sound through MHL will be digital, and the output in dock is analog jack.
Any ideas?
I know the Audio works in Car Dock, Problem is i am also currently looking into the software i had on previously. Some say its The Kernel , unfortunately i flashed my phone so many times i am not really sure of the Firmware / Kernel. Rest assured if i discover i will share.:good::cyclops:
CapuozzoCantina said:
Hi guys,
there is a lot of speculation on this matter,
and it seems that after the gs3, note 2 and other devices release, the interest of this project by the developers vanished.
I want to know if there is anyone that is making progress with this matter.
Maybe some custom rom that i'm not aware of,
maybe some kernel that i'm not aware of.
At the moment it seems that the situation is really bad.
I've found an app on the store that states that "Samsung blocks usb audio devices on the S1, S2, and note 1". But they have plenty of stock phones and tablets that work with the app for a usb audio output.
I really hope that someone is trying to do something for us.
Thank you very much all
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i don't understand everything that was written in here.
i'm very badly wating for the usb audio support of the original Samsung Galaxy S2 Car Holder/Dock.
i can't imagine why it takes so long or is so complicated to implement this feature when it worked back in cm9 like a charm.
A sullution... (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029728) but is there a kernel compatible??

Onda v919 core m

I didn't see a thread on this so thought I'd post one soon as I just got one from banggood. I'll leave the proper review to techtablets Chris but I thought I'd post a couple of bits for anyone thinking of getting one.
Firstly it comes stuck in chinese (single language OS) as a word of warning this guide killed the OS dead for me: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...interface-language-on-single-language-version
I have since recovered with from win10 pro and used the onda drivers from their site and everything is working great, in fact it is unbelievably fast compared to my Teclast x98 air II 64gb, in fact most of the benchmarks are over double.
I am looking at picking one of these up, but I do have a couple of questions. How bad is the battery life and how warm does it get? Oh yeah, will it work with iPad Air cases?
And most important, is the OS 32bit or 64bit?
I would say you'll get about 5 hours tops with web browsing on medium screen brightness. Its gets quite a bit warmer than my teclast air x98 II but not burning hot.
Depends on the case, the dimensions are identical apart from its fatter by a few mm (also fatter than the bay trail v919) I have a air keyboard which clips over the front that works ok but I could definitely see some cases being a problem with it.
Mine came with single language chinese 64bit, but trying to hack a new lang pack into it caused it to break so I had to install my own win10 pro.
BigsyBiggins said:
I would say you'll get about 5 hours tops with web browsing on medium screen brightness. Its gets quite a bit warmer than my teclast air x98 II but not burning hot.
Depends on the case, the dimensions are identical apart from its fatter by a few mm (also fatter than the bay trail v919) I have a air keyboard which clips over the front that works ok but I could definitely see some cases being a problem with it.
Mine came with single language chinese 64bit, but trying to hack a new lang pack into it caused it to break so I had to install my own win10 pro.
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Is the Windows 10 license locked to that Chinese version, or could you just install Windows 10 over top, like a recovery install and still use the license it came with?
My understanding from reading around is that you can backup the key and reinstall using the single language version of your language and it should activate with that key. I can't confirm that works as I put pro straight on.
A guy on another forum who got one (not from banggood) came with win pro in english but it wasn't activated, not sure if he had any issues if/when he tried.
BigsyBiggins said:
My understanding from reading around is that you can backup the key and reinstall using the single language version of your language and it should activate with that key. I can't confirm that works as I put pro straight on.
A guy on another forum who got one (not from banggood) came with win pro in english but it wasn't activated, not sure if he had any issues if/when he tried.
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Received my v919 3G Core M yesterday. bought it off China's biggest online shopping site, Taobao. The specs is amazing and fast!
Like you too, I'm pretty disappointed with the single language win10 installed in it. I immediately wanted to install win10 pro myself but just to be safe, I contacted their online customer service.
they told me not install my own version of win10. I found their firmware from Onda's official site and it's 7GB+ from baidu online storage. (taking me ages to finish the download. still downloading now) i'm sure what version of win10 is it though.
pretty glad i saw your post! just want to clear some doubts before I continue with installing my win10:
1. can you dual boot to your android os after installing your win10?
2. is your 3G working fine?
thanks!
Mine came single os and tbh I'm not interested in having android on there, I will at some point probably dual boot ubuntu so I can use it as a on the go dev environement.
3G works but is very slow, I've not seen it go above 1mbps up/down my LGg3 is about 4x faster in the same conditions/signal when set to 3g only. Again not something that bothers my as I will just use my phone as a 4G hotspot if needed.
I have a question.
I don't need Android OS. How to remove the Android OS?
Any guide?
Thanks.
Power Supply Info
Can you tell me some info about the power supply? The specs and the size of the barrel so I can order a second power supply? With only 5 hours of life, I would definitely need another adapter for work..
wmtemna said:
Can you tell me some info about the power supply? The specs and the size of the barrel so I can order a second power supply? With only 5 hours of life, I would definitely need another adapter for work..
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I'm not sure of the plug specs but I've ordered this: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Zozo...Dell-Toshiba-IBM-Lenovo-Acer/32385811075.html
It seems really nice and slim, pretty cheap, and one of the plugs is bound to fit.
The info about the power adapter is on the power brick. Could you post a nice clear pic of the power brick's label? Thanks.
wmtemna said:
The info about the power adapter is on the power brick. Could you post a nice clear pic of the power brick's label? Thanks.
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Its 12v 3A but it doesn't have the plug size.
Cases
Have you found a case for it that works? Also, can you post what Windows reports about the SSD, like what does it say in device manager about the SSD. Very curious if it's upgradable. Where are the teardown videos?
Power Brick
Picture of Power Brick attached.
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Very curious if it's upgradable. Where are the teardown videos?
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There is one thread at: TechTablets.com and another at: ondabbs.cn
i got the v975w and love it but hoping to upgrade soon and want something similar but without certain gripes.
SD card speeds? the v975w has a few issues with sd card read/write speeds
does it have a dedicated charge connection or does it use USB? the v975w only has 1 micro usb which is used for OTG or charge but cant do both at once. kinda annoying i cant plug my portable HDD in while charging
how many USB?
storage (HDD, EMMC etc) how much and what options?
guessing its just an ipad air case (rip off) like the telcast or my v975w?
i prefer that, getting cases/covers its alot easier
More photos of the interior:
Hi,
onda 919 works in ubuntu?
Thanks
jualom said:
Hi,
onda 919 works in ubuntu?
Thanks
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No reason why it wouldn't boot to a desktop I guess, as for what drivers are supported out the box I have no idea, I have a bigger ssd on order so I can dual boot it.
I suspect not everything will work, but I'm pretty hopeful I'll be able to get enough working. Battery life will probably be poor though.
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Hi,
onda 919 works in ubuntu?
Thanks
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Actually I just tried this for you, I booted the live daily x64 off a usb:
Working:
3G
Sound
MIC
Suspend
Rear Camera, although it is rotated 180 degrees (prob easy fix)
Volume rocker
Brightness
Not working:
Rotate Accelerometer
Touch
Wifi (prob easy fix)
As soon as I have a bigger ssd in this thing I'll do some tinkering, I suspect we can get mostly everything working, its already in kinda of a useable state.
EDIT: In fact reading here: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Windows-Tablets/Linux-on-the-Stream-tablet/td-p/4829188
The bottom 3 fixes would probably get everything working as this tablet uses RTL8723B wifi and a goodix touchscreen.

[Need spec explanation] Plan to buy Xiaomi Mi A1 but... USB type C

Hello everybody,
I plan to buy a Xiaomi Mi A1 but there's an hardware related issue that set me up.
This issue is called micro USB type C.
Since almost nobody got it, I know having this kind of stuff will be hard but I'm ready to be a charging-loner. I won't compromise my buy just for a detail (between the facts that there's no FM radio and NFC also)
However! I am new to these technical questions and I'm not really at my ease. So I'd like to know some specs about this technology.
I DO NOT expect to have better charge/data transfer performances with it, because I got old stuff I won't change for the phone, on my PC for exemple (no way to pay for replacing my USB type B 2.0).
So do the cable the seller provide (if provided) is good for my everyday use? Let's say I want to plug my phone to my PC to drop some pictures. Will it work without harming anything or I'll have to buy more cables or adapter? Also can I wire a single charging block with a micro USB type C - USB type A/B ?
You can just get micro USB to USB C adapter plug things, it will work fine. USB Cable is fully backwards compatible. The adapters are like a dollar or more/less and you can find them on any decent gadget site or eBay. Get a couple and keep one in your wallet even.
Phone comes with a USB C cable with regular USB on the other end, it's nothing special. You don't need a USB C port on a computer.
Start with hardware I'm satisfied with my mi a1 I can use it with anything and anywhere sync with pc my console tv no problem I'm using it just like before I used my galaxy s2 (5 year older device) I didn't purchased anything separately mi a1 come with one adaptor charger and a one meter USB type c cable and my pc more older then my galaxy s2
Talking about FM you can run any fm app. it have fm hardware I'm on custom rom and nowdays developer provide fm in there custom rom on stock you can get it via root access and installing spirit fm. You said you're not aspecting better data transfer or charging so it's pathetic. (no offense sorry but you are living in 80)
In this era company's trying to provide there customer better hardware in cheaper cost and that's a future!
Xiaomi didn't provide fast charge for our device but it capable for it why!? because if they purchase license for quick charge from qualcomm so they must pay for it or this purchase will definitely become heavy on customers whereas without quick charge my device charge full in one and half hour (if I'm on stock rom maybe one hour and 45 minutes exactly) but it more faster then my old galaxy s2 it's tack up to three hours for full charge replaced battery 1650 mah. file transfer rate is satisfying I mention that I'm using older pc.
On hardware level that device have Samsung EMMC, DDR, front camera LCD is more bright then Moto g5s plus my friend have that device (g5s+).
Talking about warranty I've read about that on XDA and YouTube you can claim your warranty whereas you flashed custom rom on it (just flash stock rom and lock boot loader your warranty is back).
Thank you for you answers!
Actually I can explain why I seem to "hate" this new kind of USB. Although it's really practical, I was just affraid to pay lot and having to think too much just for a cable.
Before I create this thread I read articles about this in my native language, and the comment were full of oldies complaining that "well another stuff our USB are already dead they're annoying it will always go faster we'll have to pay always more" blah blah blah.
I didn't really care of these messages, but articles (well written and purely objective) talked about harm in a specifical case due to incompatibility so I was affraid. This is also the reason why I didn't specially expect better performance, for exemple in charging, in the case I charge my phone on my PC. But maybe with a dedicated block charge is faster, I believe that but if it's not the case for some reason (I'm really lost...) I won't be deceived.
You managed to reassure me so it's fine. I just got one last question I'd like you to answer if you know.
I know basically it's a hardware related thread, but to avoid thread pollution if I could avoid creating another...
It's about root, especially under Oreo, with a process that seems really... Hard. Never heard about a device you have to flash a modified kernel to work before, and as a camera problem troubleshooting the fact to set your SELinux environment to permissive... Just crazy for me. What do you think?
Atronid said:
Thank you for you answers!
Actually I can explain why I seem to "hate" this new kind of USB. Although it's really practical, I was just affraid to pay lot and having to think too much just for a cable.
Before I create this thread I read articles about this in my native language, and the comment were full of oldies complaining that "well another stuff our USB are already dead they're annoying it will always go faster we'll have to pay always more" blah blah blah.
I didn't really care of these messages, but articles (well written and purely objective) talked about harm in a specifical case due to incompatibility so I was affraid. This is also the reason why I didn't specially expect better performance, for exemple in charging, in the case I charge my phone on my PC. But maybe with a dedicated block charge is faster, I believe that but if it's not the case for some reason (I'm really lost...) I won't be deceived.
You managed to reassure me so it's fine. I just got one last question I'd like you to answer if you know.
I know basically it's a hardware related thread, but to avoid thread pollution if I could avoid creating another...
It's about root, especially under Oreo, with a process that seems really... Hard. Never heard about a device you have to flash a modified kernel to work before, and as a camera problem troubleshooting the fact to set your SELinux environment to permissive... Just crazy for me. What do you think?
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To root the phone you can simply flash Magisk zip after booting temporary TWRP. To fix camera lags there is a specific module that allow necessary permissions while mantaining selinux enforcing.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/themes/module-long-camera-start-fix-mi-a1-t3745262
sipollo said:
To root the phone you can simply flash Magisk zip after booting temporary TWRP. To fix camera lags there is a specific module that allow necessary permissions while mantaining selinux enforcing.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/themes/module-long-camera-start-fix-mi-a1-t3745262
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I'm OK with that, but it's only valid with Nougat, not Oreo?
I didn't hear that much about camera lags but worse, camera not working at all.
It was on Oreo, but I could try to root before getting the Oreo update after all.
Atronid said:
I'm OK with that, but it's only valid with Nougat, not Oreo?
I didn't hear that much about camera lags but worse, camera not working at all.
It was on Oreo, but I could try to root before getting the Oreo update after all.
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It's valid on Oreo too, camera working fine, it doesn't work only on a beta leaked ROM, no problems if you keep Stock 8.0 ROM or Any 8.1 custom ROM.
N1ck474 said:
It's valid on Oreo too, camera working fine, it doesn't work only on a beta leaked ROM, no problems if you keep Stock 8.0 ROM or Any 8.1 custom ROM.
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Alright! Thank you everybody
Atronid said:
Hello everybody,
I plan to buy a Xiaomi Mi A1
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Don't do it bro...
AwayForSomeone said:
Don't do it bro...
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Why should I not buy it?
Atronid said:
Why should I not buy it?
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To many defects and problems with this smartphone... like proximity sensor, sd card, headphones sounds and other...
Type C is almost the same MicroUSB with diferent shape... compatible with any charger/pc/any normal USB plug. and since its is the newest tech, most high-end and mid-high devices use type C (every samsung A and S series since 2017, huawei new phones, to mention the 2 first at market share), so its actually a positive thing if you plan to keep this phone a couple years. It will become more popular soon.
About the root/Gcam thing: I did the whole process in like 20 mins (reading carefully every post in the forums) and its working like a charm. It was easier to root than my last samsung. Everything working fine, even OTAs with magisk update trick. Dont be afraid and try the available guides!
Its a great phone for its price
USB-C was new for me, but I got used to it. I cant see any diference between normal micro-usb and this one, if we dont count the shape.
Ι think USB type c cables are sturdier than micro SD ones. I mean the connector not the actual cable. For my Samsung S7 I need every 2-3 months new cable(connector looses or cannot charge-fastcharge). The type c cables that I use in my LG HiFi plus dac,Kodak ektra and mia1 are still like new and show no defect yet.
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To many defects and problems with this smartphone... like proximity sensor, sd card, headphones sounds and other...
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This would not surprise me, we're talking about chinese smartphone after all.
However, I haven't seen any big defect report about this.
I'll make deeper researches about it, do you got links to articles/reports talking about incidents with this smartphone?
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To many defects and problems with this smartphone... like proximity sensor, sd card, headphones sounds and other...
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I have two mi a1... I receive and make calls like any other cell, prox sensor just works... Sd card is fine, i use it for titanium backup restore and twrp flash... In-ear headphones also working fine
Don't spread misinformation just because you had a bad rom flash, any bad apps, etc...
traianescu said:
I have two mi a1... I receive and make calls like any other cell, prox sensor just works... Sd card is fine, i use it for titanium backup restore and twrp flash... In-ear headphones also working fine
Don't spread misinformation just because you had a bad rom flash, any bad apps, etc...
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Many devices with defects, not all...
AwayForSomeone said:
Many devices with defects, not all...
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Yeah just like every other electronic device out there.
Lots are perfectly fine and some are defective.
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Many devices with defects, not all...
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Reporting defects and preventing somebody from buying bad products aren't bad things. But it's better with personnal experience and/or written proofs. Do you got real (=justified) reasons to advise me against buying this?
Atronid said:
Reporting defects and preventing somebody from buying bad products aren't bad things. But it's better with personnal experience and/or written proofs. Do you got real (=justified) reasons to advise me against buying this?
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Just check official forums... i've bought 2 device of xiaomi( Redmi note 3 qualcomm, mi a1) and both with same problem( proximity sensor).
I've not seen these problems on other smartphones before.
Sorry for my bad english

Hi Res BT audio?

Hey guys, looks like this forum is pretty quiet for the Axon 7 mini but if you see this, I'm considering getting one as a media player (mostly music) in compliment to my Axon 7 which is my daily driver phone. Does the mini output bluetooth audio at hi res like it's big brother? I know it has an AKM DAC for the 3.5mm socket but I mostly use BT either in my car or on headphones now, so that is very important.
If not, I may as well just use my wife's old Oppo F1f when her new phone arrives. Performance is similar but not hi res audio.
Decided to get one anyway, so cheap, AU$149 new in box from retail store, grey one too, not keen on gold. I'll put my 128Gb card from the Axon 7 in it as I put a 256Gb in that recently.
My Axon 7 is stock and used for work but the mini can be anything I want
So, as to stock ROMs, what is the latest one you can root ok? I'm downloading 7.1.1 B15 for my G variant, it doesn't find any OTA updates from it's old original global ROM which is ZTE B2017G APV1.0.0B01
In Australia.
RobboW said:
Hey guys, looks like this forum is pretty quiet for the Axon 7 mini but if you see this, I'm considering getting one as a media player (mostly music) in compliment to my Axon 7 which is my daily driver phone. Does the mini output bluetooth audio at hi res like it's big brother? I know it has an AKM DAC for the 3.5mm socket but I mostly use BT either in my car or on headphones now, so that is very important.
If not, I may as well just use my wife's old Oppo F1f when her new phone arrives. Performance is similar but not hi res audio.
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No hi-res bluetooth. Just aptX. If you install the one.
So far I tried three ROMs, cannot update it.
Buyers remorse kicking in.......
Maybe stuck like those variants in GB and Canada.
Edit: thinking about the process of updating Axon 7, maybe there is a road map for updating the mini too. Been searching the different ZTE support pages around the world and downloading some different ROMs. Found a later MM ROM to try before going N. Hoping that is the answer.
Edit: Looks like it's stuck on this very old ROM, the A in the version name is looking like the problem. A for Australia, and no updates for Australia. Booooo!
Can they be recovery forced? But then brick? I guess it would just refuse.
Edit: Did MM B12 update by recovery so got it to global rather than Australia. Now it's on the update road via SD method Going N B13 now, what's the latest I should go that can be rooted ok?
So once I got it away from the really old Aus ROM via recovery to MM B12 it all went very easy. Now on N B16.
For AU$149 new in box, the A7 mini is a bargain!
Guys, I think there's a myth I can dispell straight away between Axon 7 and Axon 7 mini. Having both now, I can tell you straight up, despite both having an AKM DAC the big brother absolutely destroys the mini with 3.5 jack output into a line in device. It's a MUCH louder amp. Could easily drive it's output directly into car hifi amp system without a HU.
Going between the two with a pair of decent 32 ohm buds is not quite as clear cut though, the A7mini has a nice and more balanced, clear sound, decent volume but the A7 still punches harder, it brings more depth into the bottom end so feels bigger and that's how I prefer it.
As to that crazy output to line in devices like a portable speaker with the A7, it's actually a bit too much and have to cut the volume level back at least two steps so for this purpose the mini is more sensible, but if you're driving cans, go A7 every time, especially if they're higher impedance than the normal 32 ohm stuff.
I still like the mini, it's a very nice phone and at the current runout price point nothing else gets near it, especially with that gorgeous AMOLED screen and premium external finish.
RobboW said:
Hey guys, looks like this forum is pretty quiet for the Axon 7 mini
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Hi. This forum is quiet, but there is a lot of useful things about Axon 7 mini on the Russian 4PDA forum. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=891109&st=1100#entry85892739
You can just use a google-translated version of this, I suppose.
nikaiako said:
Hi. This forum is quiet, but there is a lot of useful things about Axon 7 mini on the Russian 4PDA forum. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=891109&st=1100#entry85892739
You can just use a google-translated version of this, I suppose.
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Thanks for that, I'll have a look when I have some spare time, see if there's anything that takes my interest. I have to decide if I'll mod this phone to a custom ROM as we know it will never get another update from ZTE. Mine is on N B16 so that's end of the line.
I guess the biggest thing is if custom ROMs have the audio performance as good as with stock. I use mine in the car to play music through the 3.5mm jack. Got Next Track app to skip tracks back and forward with screen off by volume rocker. Works well. Sounds pretty good on bluetooth even, because Dolby Atmos does work and combined with gentle equalisation in Poweramp makes for a fairly well defined sound. My headunit doesn't do Hi Res bluetooth so this phone is ideal for the car. Despite the stock headunit, I've built a kick ass hifi off of it.
Liking the A7 Mini, doing much better on battery than expected. It idles quite efficiently. With light use I get it to go for two days on a charge. I ended up taking my personal SIM out of my Axon 7 and put it in the mini. Just my work SIM in the A7 now. That improved battery life on the A7 too.
Considering the better than expected battery range I'm not even looking at rooting or modding it.
Even got my brother an A7 Mini to replace his iPhone 6S which got the latest iOS update and made it useless..... Good one CrApple

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