Is there a way for me to install the stock apps on a custom rom?
Android_noob17 said:
Is there a way for me to install the stock apps on a custom rom?
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Unfortunately, no. The most useful Moto apps only work w/stock Moto ROMs. Which work great BTW - especially when enhanced with Magisk mods and/or Xposed Framework. The only downside is dealing with OTA updates and the lack of robust theming support.
Davey126 said:
Unfortunately, no. The most useful Moto apps only work w/stock Moto ROMs. Which work great BTW - especially when enhanced with Magisk mods and/or Xposed Framework. The only downside is dealing with OTA updates and the lack of robust theming support.
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Yeah that is unfortunate. The only things I don't like about the stock rom is the bloat, and like you said, lack of theme support.
Android_noob17 said:
Yeah that is unfortunate. The only things I don't like about the stock rom is the bloat, and like you said, lack of theme support.
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Bloat is almost certainly carrier related and removable with root. I have the XT1768 (unlocked/carrierless) variant and found very little in the way of 'bloat'.
Davey126 said:
Bloat is almost certainly carrier related and removable with root. I have the XT1768 (unlocked/carrierless) variant and found very little in the way of 'bloat'.
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I have the XT1766 (boost) and there's a decent amount of bloat on it.
Android_noob17 said:
I have the XT1766 (boost) and there's a decent amount of bloat on it.
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Most carrier builds do. But unlike the unrootable/unlockable Verizon XT1767 you can easily cleanse your device yielding a close AOSP experience that is fully functional. A quick read through most of the custom ROM threads will yield various issues that range from minor annoyances (most) to significant gaps.
Android_noob17 said:
I have the XT1766 (boost) and there's a decent amount of bloat on it.
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So get rid of it. Much of lies in the oem partition. But only edit oem while booted into twrp or the phone will freeze. Start by adding a ~ to the end of a file or APK you want to get rid of to test stability. If no ill effects, then delete it (or move somewhere for safe keeping). Anything can be brought back with the stock firmware package though.
madbat99 said:
So get rid of it. Much of lies in the oem partition. But only edit oem while booted into twrp or the phone will freeze. Start by adding a ~ to the end of a file or APK you want to get rid of to test stability. If no ill effects, then delete it (or move somewhere for safe keeping). Anything can be brought back with the stock firmware package though.
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...or just disable/freeze unwanted items and mitigate most of the risk of renaming/removing. Especially if it lives in the system/oem partition which is largely inaccessible/unusable in day-to-day operations. Yes - one can move stuff around and marginally increase space in the somewhat cramped user/data partition. Not worth the headache IMHO unless you are very comfortable with the procedures.
madbat99 said:
So get rid of it. Much of lies in the oem partition. But only edit oem while booted into twrp or the phone will freeze. Start by adding a ~ to the end of a file or APK you want to get rid of to test stability. If no ill effects, then delete it (or move somewhere for safe keeping). Anything can be brought back with the stock firmware package though.
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Davey126 said:
...or just disable/freeze unwanted items and mitigate most of the risk of renaming/removing. Especially if it lives in the system/oem partition which is largely inaccessible/unusable in day-to-day operations. Yes - one can move stuff around and marginally increase space in the somewhat cramped user/data partition. Not worth the headache IMHO unless you are very comfortable with the procedures.
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Yeah I'll just disable them. Are there any major incentives to go back to the stock rom, especially now that the LTE is pretty much fixed for custom roms?
Android_noob17 said:
Yeah I'll just disable them. Are there any major incentives to go back to the stock rom, especially now that the LTE is pretty much fixed for custom roms?
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Not so sure about LTE being "fixed". As for incentives:
- if the ROM you are using now works stick with it; if it ain't broke don't f#%k with it
- already addressed arguments for stock (here); I like stuff that works and minimizes upfront work; my goal is to USE my device, not MANAGE it
Davey126 said:
Not so sure about LTE being "fixed". As for incentives:
- if the ROM you are using now works stick with it; if it ain't broke don't f#%k with it
- already addressed arguments for stock (here); I like stuff that works and minimizes upfront work; my goal is to USE my device, not MANAGE it
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Hmmm yeah you're right, I'll just stick with what I have.
Davey126 said:
Not so sure about LTE being "fixed". my goal is to USE my device, not MANAGE it
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Well said
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What I mean is that, at least with myself, and a few other users, that stock is good enough to not warrant a custom ROM. Many just want root to customize their experience a little farther than stock. For myself, it's just enabling unlocked wireless tether, adblocking and getting rid of bloatware. I seriously don't think companies would make the process easier. But I thought I'd throw the question out there. I know that the completely stock experience is made to best protect the average consumer from malware and mucking up their phone. I realize that locking down a lot of things keeps the average technically uninformed user from breaking their phone. What are your thoughts on this subject?
I agree with your observation that stock ROMs are getting better and better and it'll most likely be more than good enough or perfectly adequate for the non-techy average user.
However, based on the industry practice of carriers still loading up phones with their own apps, customizations, and other bloatware, I think root will be desirable and necessary still for a long time to come.
After getting my S4, I immediately rooted it to uninstall many Sprint and Samsung apps that I couldn't otherwise. Root was also necessary to add adblocking software, a firewall, and to customize what I didn't like about TW through the Xposed framework.
I agree that custom ROMs may not be as necessary as they used to be but they are still a relatively easy way for people to get a different look with little effort.
I had mine rooted within 30 minutes of getting home with it. Still need root for Titanium Backup. Custom Recovery for Nandroids and flashing Mods and a Custom kernel just because. Using Xposed and Notach and Viper4Android and of course the Tether unlock.
Hey total noob question. If I root my S4 and leave the stock rom on the phone, will I still get all the firmware updates?
mr_mojorisen said:
Hey total noob question. If I root my S4 and leave the stock rom on the phone, will I still get all the firmware updates?
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Yes.
mr_mojorisen said:
Hey total noob question. If I root my S4 and leave the stock rom on the phone, will I still get all the firmware updates?
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I believe so as long as you have the stock recovery.
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optimummind said:
I agree with your observation that stock ROMs are getting better and better and it'll most likely be more than good enough or perfectly adequate for the non-techy average user.
However, based on the industry practice of carriers still loading up phones with their own apps, customizations, and other bloatware, I think root will be desirable and necessary still for a long time to come.
After getting my S4, I immediately rooted it to uninstall many Sprint and Samsung apps that I couldn't otherwise. Root was also necessary to add adblocking software, a firewall, and to customize what I didn't like about TW through the Xposed framework.
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Whats the best way to remove the bloatware? I'm rooted already.
A way that would would still get updates, disable programs in the application manager. You will still lose root though.
ashton4life said:
Whats the best way to remove the bloatware? I'm rooted already.
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I like Root App Delete, which is here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=zsj.android.uninstall
and also Titanium Backup.
Wtf just look at attachments omg ... samsung
adrovic.ad said:
Wtf just look at attachments omg ... samsung
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How does this belong in Q&A? Do you have a question about it? This is common knowledge. If it annoys you, de-bloat it using the many methods out there.
kingzain900 said:
How does this belong in Q&A? Do you have a question about it? This is common knowledge. If it annoys you, de-bloat it using the many methods out there.
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I just want to know if someone else is haveing this I guess they do .. so what is the bloatware here ...touchwiz? and how can this be fixed
thats the question , sry
adrovic.ad said:
I just want to know if someone else is haveing this I guess they do .. so what is the bloatware here ...touchwiz? and how can this be fixed
thats the question , sry
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It's all the extra apps that Samsung has got in there, plus all the extra ringtones, wallpapers, etc.
You can do a few things (all of which require rooting the phone).
The fastest and best method (IMO) would be to install a custom ROM and remove the bloatware that way. Look at Omega ROM
Alternatively, you can do it yourself using root explorer and apps like Root App Delete.
Or use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468596
Use any of these methods at your own risk. The first one is the safest and easiest.
Forget it, Samsung has "reserved" a certain amount of space, approx 7gb, for the system files whether its used or not.
You can't change it in any way unless you want to play around with the partition table - pit file... This is an extremely BAD idea...
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Forget it, Samsung has "reserved" a certain amount of space, approx 7gb, for the system files whether its used or not.
You can't change it in any way unless you want to play around with the partition table - pit file... This is an extremely BAD idea...
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He can still free up a bunch of space by removing all of the non-essential Samsung apps.
kingzain900 said:
He can still free up a bunch of space by removing all of the non-essential Samsung apps.
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Asa long as they aren't installed as part of the system. Otherwise there's no point as you may free up system memory but you still can't utilise it...
ultramag69 said:
Asa long as they aren't installed as part of the system. Otherwise there's no point as you may free up system memory but you still can't utilise it...
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Thats right my friend I noticed exactly that but the taskmanager that samsung provides is bloatware?
Really omg I just cant believe what they are selling
Is there any way to remove completely the whole system memory and replace it with the google stock android while also being able to update the phone normaly.
If there isnt then im just going to swap it for an iphone 5 I made arrangements.
I dont trust all the moded firmware on this forum or anywhere else so is there any genuine 100% firmware from google stock android that I could use
Thank you
You could check out the developement part of the forum for a google rom.
There is no problem with most of what's done here as long as you read and are sure to follow the steps to flash. Most problems are people, and its not just noobs, jumping ahead and stuffing things up...
Im thinking of rooting my note 3 (sm-n900) and installing CM 12.1. The main reason to do this is to eliminate the bloatware, increase the speed, get the latest updated (improvements, updates, security fixes, etc). By doing this, I will loose some cool features I love (like the smart stay, s view cover, S pen features, etc). So, what do you think? To root or not to root?
I can't possibly think of a day without an unrooted phone!
At the same time I can't possibly think about putting CM or anything like that anywhere near my phone.
Hope you get what I am trying to say.
THpubs said:
Im thinking of rooting my note 3 (sm-n900) and installing CM 12.1. The main reason to do this is to eliminate the bloatware, increase the speed, get the latest updated (improvements, updates, security fixes, etc). By doing this, I will loose some cool features I love (like the smart stay, s view cover, S pen features, etc). So, what do you think? To root or not to root?
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Tell me how it goes if you go through with it because I'm unsure about doing myself.
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devilsdouble said:
I can't possibly think of a day without an unrooted phone!
At the same time I can't possibly think about putting CM or anything like that anywhere near my phone.
Hope you get what I am trying to say.
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Sorry... why don't you like CM?
THpubs said:
Sorry... why don't you like CM?
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Multiple reasons, really don't want to type a long list, don't have time.
If you are into that sort of stuffs then why don't you try and let us know. I hate it, doesn't mean you would too.
But a FACT won't change, we are not using some crappy old device where the official support is ended and we are stuck with Jelly Bean or something. I prefer stability and a fully featured ROM more than any buggy nonsense. However there are people who don't listen to songs, take pictures or videos or talk on a mobile phone, for them display, sound those don't matter, only if Facebook opens with some decreased animation times they are happy, but I am so fortunate to be not one of them, if you get what I am saying.
devilsdouble said:
Multiple reasons, really don't want to type a long list, don't have time.
If you are into that sort of stuffs then why don't you try and let us know. I hate it, doesn't mean you would too.
But a FACT won't change, we are not using some crappy old device where the official support is ended and we are stuck with Jelly Bean or something. I prefer stability and a fully featured ROM more than any buggy nonsense. However there are people who don't listen to songs, take pictures or videos or talk on a mobile phone, for them display, sound those don't matter, only if Facebook opens with some decreased animation times they are happy, but I am so fortunate to be not one of them, if you get what I am saying.
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Great... Now I got what you are saying! And I agree! But I use the phone a lot specially for work and use less for facebook, photos, etc. Since I use it a lot I need more speed and don't like samsung apps getting in my way like the s planner (Can't uninstall it and install google calendar). I also need the latest updated on my phone because I think they have the latest security fixes and bug fixes. Usually when I face a bug, I need to wait for months to or nearly an year to receive a fix with the stock rom. And I like to see how vanilla Android feels like. So If I make up my mind (hard ) I'll try and let you know.
By the way. Can we trust the roms in `sammobile`? They say those are the original stock roms? If I fail, I can use that to revert back right?
dracinn said:
Tell me how it goes if you go through with it because I'm unsure about doing myself.
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Sure I will let you know if I manage to make up my mind to do it. Still it's 50 - 50
THpubs said:
By the way. Can we trust the roms in `sammobile`? They say those are the original stock roms? If I fail, I can use that to revert back right?
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Oh yes, sure, you can trust sammobile.com absolutely.
One more thing, you can uninstall any app you want, just install Root Uninstaller. I have uninstalled ****e apps like S Voice, Trip Advisor, Google Books etc. and all those apps I don't need.
devilsdouble said:
Oh yes, sure, you can trust sammobile.com absolutely.
One more thing, you can uninstall any app you want, just install Root Uninstaller. I have uninstalled ****e apps like S Voice, Trip Advisor, Google Books etc. and all those apps I don't need.
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Cool! But one more thing... how does they get the original firmware if samsung doesn't offer it on their site?
Hehe great thanks!
<Mod Edit> I like to have different view points!
THpubs said:
Cool! But one more thing... how does they get the original firmware if samsung doesn't offer it on their site?
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Umm, probably sammobile.com is Samsung's site? Can't say really
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devilsdouble said:
Umm, probably sammobile.com is Samsung's site? Can't say really
I am not fighting with anyone dude, fighting only happens between two matured people :laugh: I simply am stating a FACT.
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Hehe cool! Thanks!
Thread Cleaned. Stay on topic. Like OP said, everyone has their own view points AS WELL AS ways to use their phone. Rule 2.3 requires you to show respects to fellow members
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Just because someone likes the convenience and familiarity of Stock Touchwiz does not mean they are wrong. Also Just because phone is rooted does not mean custom recovery and Custom roms HAVE to be installed. Its all about individual preferences.
On the other hand, please do understand, this site is about Development and FOR DEVELOPERS. If you think certain rom has issues, then either fix it yourself since the code is already published. Or raise it to the Developers attention with clearly identified Logcats or bug reports. Blanket statements do not help.
If the argument continues, I will close the thread.
The title pretty much says it all. I'm on Sprint and I like this phone but I'm not going to get it if the bootloader is locked and/or it can't be rooted. Having ad blocking and Xposed on my phone are basic requirements for me to get one.
Would any kind soul please let me know?
I don't know, but if not anything with the bootloader would love a way to at least get a systemless root, does this sound like something that could even be possible?
It is locked as of now. Root may or may not come.
Get yourself Adguard and live happy. What do you want Xposed for?
I like root just to debloat.
I also like Titanium Backup as well
Yes. Adblocking and titbackup. Xposed would be nice though this phone needs less xposed modules for sure. I think. Lg got a lot of things right ootb.
Skripka said:
Get yourself Adguard and live happy. What do you want Xposed for?
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Is this a serious question? Have you used xposed be before? The YouTube ad blocking alone is worth it. Not to mention being able to tweak literally everything on the phone and basically have a custom ROM like experience without having to flash a new ROM over the stock one. Lets say i want to change the height of my navbar and make it pink instead of black. I can do all that with xposed. If you're asking why xposed is desirable you may as well be asking why customization is needed.
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Is this a serious question? Have you used xposed be before? The YouTube ad blocking alone is worth it. Not to mention being able to tweak literally everything on the phone and basically have a custom ROM like experience without having to flash a new ROM over the stock one. Lets say i want to change the height of my navbar and make it pink instead of black. I can do all that with xposed. If you're asking why xposed is desirable you may as well be asking why customization is needed.
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Yes...and I quickly tired of broken functionality and instability and lack if support from devs on all sides
Solution...use SkyTube or other non crappy YouTube app
Skripka said:
Yes...and I quickly tired of broken functionality and instability and lack if support from devs on all sides
Solution...use SkyTube or other non crappy YouTube app
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Everyone has their own preferences and ways they live their life. I made this thread to inquire about a specific property of the software (thanks for your input on that), but not any advice on whether or not I should use it. Your advice is unsolicited and unwanted. Thanks.
Skripka said:
It is locked as of now. Root may or may not come.
Get yourself Adguard and live happy. What do you want Xposed for?
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Skripka said:
Yes...and I quickly tired of broken functionality and instability and lack if support from devs on all sides
Solution...use SkyTube or other non crappy YouTube app
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I've never had stability issues with any xposed modules. My previous device was the LG G4 and I used xposed to tweak the crap out of it and it was awesome. There is a reason why xposed is so popular go look at the xposed threads. Just cause you don't feel its necessary doesn't mean it has no value to other users. This is XDA developer's for godsakes i dont think encouraging people to be content with a stock device should even be allowed on this site. But thats my humble opinion.
Picked up a Cricket Core Prime during a sale and was wondering if I could get a Lollipop update. If not, are there any recommended mods/tweaks for this phone to be more usable as a backup phone for my Moto Z? Right now, it has poor battery life and TW is as ugly as always.
technohunter123 said:
Picked up a Cricket Core Prime during a sale and was wondering if I could get a Lollipop update. If not, are there any recommended mods/tweaks for this phone to be more usable as a backup phone for my Moto Z? Right now, it has poor battery life and TW is as ugly as always.
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Yes, really great modifications you can make. Unfortunately, you probably won't be able to get Lollipop if Cricket hasn't released an update for it, so make sure you've checked your system update in settings to make absolute sure that you can't upgrade.
First of all, root it. You can get rid of the bloat and tweak it. This should be really easy if it hasn't gotten the Lollipop update yet.
Second, install Nova Launcher. It is way better than TouchWiz and makes your phone feel like stock Android.
Third, get some good root apps. Obviously get SuperSU but also try out greenify to improve your battery life. There are all kinds of great root apps out there if you just look them up.
And due to the crappy storage, install some sort of app that can automatically clear your cache, because that cache can suck up a lot of data. If you can get a MicroSD card, I highly recommend it to store photos and apps on.
Other than that, that's about all
Than you very much for your time! I think that I will towelroot it and make the modifications you suggested.
technohunter123 said:
Than you very much for your time! I think that I will towelroot it and make the modifications you suggested.
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Good to know I helped! If you could please leave a thanks by pushing the thumbs-up button on my post ? that'd be great. PM me if you've got any more questions about the phone, I've pretty much mastered it ?