How is the battery degradation? - LG G6 Questions and Answers

Hi, I'm currently using Samsung Galaxy Note 3 for almost 4 years and planning to replace it with LG G6 when LG announced the G7. My concern is the non removable battery of G6, because I usually keep my phone for more than 3 years.
How the battery hold up? Is smart charging technology really work?
Thanks before

Well, just under a year for me and I haven't noticed my battery getting any worse, so that's good. Although it starts to age rapidly at the two year point.

Well, I have my phone for almost a year. I use Greenify and JuiceDefender and I have installed a custom rom: Fulmics Rom. I have no complaints about my phone or battery. It's a nice phone and the battery is healthy aswell.

The G6 has a Li-poly battery, so is not supposed to degrade so badly over time as Li-ion. Real world results will vary by user but we'd probably have heard by now if there were any big issues.

boomboomer said:
The G6 has a Li-poly battery, so is not supposed to degrade so badly over time as Li-ion. Real world results will vary by user but we'd probably have heard by now if there were any big issues.
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But aren't Li Poly batteries are just repackaged Li ion batteries?

Rickey1425 said:
But aren't Li Poly batteries are just repackaged Li ion batteries?
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http://blog.ravpower.com/2017/06/lithium-ion-vs-lithium-polymer-batteries/
Lithium Ion vs. Lithium Polymer Batteries – Which Is Better ...

Rickey1425 said:
But aren't Li Poly batteries are just repackaged Li ion batteries?
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liPo's use a gel electrolyte so the batteries can potentially be more conforming, or placed in a flexible packet vs encased in a hard box. But both are the same Li-Ion Tech.

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Has anyone seen this ...

Im looking for an X1 replacement batter with the charger. I have this same exact thing for my HTC Touch Cruise and believe me it is a godsend. Instead of sitting there for my phone to charge, I have one in the dock charging all the time. So when I run low to dead just swap and in seconds I have new juice.
Link to the htc touch cruise one that i have
http://cgi.ebay.com/1350mAh-Battery...14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
unless your a really power user you probably won't need to charge the battery that often given hercules is powering the x1 i think with heavy use you'd be good charging it probably once every 10-12 hours
What about with WiFi use?
I know on my Wizard the battery goes in about 2 hours with WiFi active even if its just idling with Messenger. Have they actually improved that much over the years? I'm hopeful but also skeptical.
WMVWifiRouter will kill your battery in an hour and a half.
I'd be curious to know if there are any reliable aftermarket batteries. Buying any Sony OEM parts are always ridiculously expensive and many aftermarket batteries don't work well with Sony products.
well based on what i've been reading about the X1 it's supposed to have a nice increase in battery life compared to our current HTC phones. supposedly sony made a special project just for the phone codename Hercules it's supposed to be using a 1800 mah li poly in stead of what we use in our current phones which is li ion supposedly using the li poly is going to give the battery a much needed boost that all ppc's need to go all day or maybe a couple of days given the usage
Li-poly batteries is over 20% higher than that of a classical Li-ion battery and they store more energy than nickel-cadmium (NiCd) and nickel metal hydride (NiMH) batteries of the same volume.
When compared to the lithium-ion battery, Li-poly has a greater life cycle degradation rate. However, in recent years, manufacturers have been declaring upwards of 500 charge-discharge cycles before the capacity drops to 80% (see Sanyo). Another variant of Li-poly cells, the "thin film rechargeable lithium battery", has been shown to provide more than 10,000 cycles.
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stole that from the wiki page

New High Capacity 1530 mah Batteries?

Hi folks,
I am seeing 1530 mah batteries on sale in eBay now. They are supposed to be the same size as the original 1350 mah battery. My problem is that the image used to display the battery is the same as the image used to display the original 1350 mah battery. (Part number: 35H00120-01M)
So, is this a "rip off" or are the sellers just lazy and use an "old" image?
Does anyone have any experience with these new high capacity batteries that they can share with this forum?
Thank you,
David
Hmm... well you also see sellers on Ebay flogging adaptors specifically to convert the audio output of the Touch HD to a 3.5mm socket... Puzzled.
My experience with cheap far east batteries for various products is very mixed. I've had some really good ones at silly low prices, yet some others that were no good at all.
Sometimes they omit protection devices from the batteries to save cost, which can make them more prone to blowing up especially if inadvertently overcharged or short-circuited. Omitting this protection can also help make room for larger capacity cells.
Usual phrase applies: "buyer beware".
Personally I would avoid.
I have used a lot of 3rd party batteries before and I would say 95% of them are rubbish especially the ones where they claim higher capacity for the same physical size. I have used larger batteries that comes with its own custom battery cover. Only these types of batteries have lasted longer than the original.
At the end of the day HTC, Nokia, SE, Samsung etc. would want to pack the highest possible capacity for a given space while maintaining safety standards. They know what they're doing... They want to "squeeze" as much as possible to make our devices smaller. Cheap 3rd party manufacturers are not going to have the same clout.
Li Polomer ? Battery from another phone??
Could the difference in capacity be due to an upgrade in technology? That is moving from a straight Li ion battery to a Li ion polymer battery?
Further to this discussion, are there any other batteries from another make / model phone / PDA that is 100% compatible with the HTC Touch HD AND has a higher capacity than the original 1350 mah?
Thank you,
David
I would say it has to be a few months more before any decent extended battery appears in the market.
Stupid question: Has the Diamond (or the Touch Pro) the same batteries, or at least the same size? I think there will be more battieres for the Diamond right now, as it has been published a few weeks earlier.
johnpatcher said:
Stupid question: Has the Diamond (or the Touch Pro) the same batteries, or at least the same size? I think there will be more battieres for the Diamond right now, as it has been published a few weeks earlier.
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Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery. i have a second HTC OEM Blackstone battery for backup. the ebay posting could also be a typo; 1350 vs. 1530? if i'm going for extra capacity, it will be with a battery that provides at least 25%+ more capacity.
delewin said:
Could the difference in capacity be due to an upgrade in technology? That is moving from a straight Li ion battery to a Li ion polymer battery?
Further to this discussion, are there any other batteries from another make / model phone / PDA that is 100% compatible with the HTC Touch HD AND has a higher capacity than the original 1350 mah?
Thank you,
David
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New technologies tend to be more expensive when they are brought to the market to cover development costs, and it's very rarely, that cheap asian products represent newest technologies, which is not used by the big manufacturing companies ...
Hi Guys,
If you are looking for good and reputation battery source,
you can proceed to www.worcell.com
They provide high quality batteries, be it normal or high capacity.
I bought an O2 Atom Life battery. It could last me 3 good days with high usage.
Now, I'm still waiting for them to produce the Blackstone battery. I definitely will get
one space battery!
delewin said:
Hi folks,
I am seeing 1530 mah batteries on sale in eBay now. They are supposed to be the same size as the original 1350 mah battery. My problem is that the image used to display the battery is the same as the image used to display the original 1350 mah battery. (Part number: 35H00120-01M)
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Well i think it's an typo. 1530 - 1350. Why not 1600 or something else. 1530mAh is a verry strang capacity for a battery.
HTC MAX 4G T8290 battery
I thought perhaps the 1500mAh battery that comes with the MAX 4G might fit into our Touch HDs. But the MAX is slightly thicker than the HD which may explain a bigger battery..
That Worcell site looks promising.
o2crazy said:
Hi Guys,
If you are looking for good and reputation battery source,
you can proceed to www.worcell.com
They provide high quality batteries, be it normal or high capacity.
I bought an O2 Atom Life battery. It could last me 3 good days with high usage.
Now, I'm still waiting for them to produce the Blackstone battery. I definitely will get
one space battery!
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Thank you 02crazy, that Worcell site looks promising.
I agree. A little patients will be beneficial. I envisage a 1800 mah or 2200 mah extended battery option soon. It will come with a matching back, to allow for the extra thickness of the battery. This would not put me off, as I have used a PDA with a "piggy back" second battery for years. (It would not win a beauty contest, but it lasted for days.)
Regards,
David
cortez.i said:
Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery.
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But does this mean that the HD uses the same battery as well?
cortez.i said:
Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery.
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How sure are you about that? Diamond's battery is 900mah and Pro's is 1350nah!
I have ordered a battery for 1530. Obtained in 1500. The manufacturer is unknown, that photo http://picasaweb.google.ru/lh/photo/WZxn7zATZXWUD2u7VU1dHQ?feat=directlink
Test has not yet succeeded. But at first look, working longer
Ηello! i am thinking to buy this cheap ebay batteries (if they worth it). Does anyone know if they are good?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-1530mah...372724?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a6f0f3cb4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Recharg...ccessories&hash=item3cb6f811c3#ht_2991wt_1138
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Galili-...Accessories&hash=item230b076791#ht_2931wt_950
Any good battery close to stock battery? I want to buy a new one!

Battery on the Evo

Just spoke with a Sprint rep at a local corporate store. Battery will be a 1500mAh battery, but he confirms that there will be an extended battery that will be able to fit without need for a change to the stock battery door.
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Any word on the pricing and availability of this battery?
Nothing from the rep. Basically responded with "I don't know much about battery life, but there will be a better battery after release."
that would be awesome if the extended battery doesnt increase the size of the phone
im willing to bet its the same 1800 mah lithium polymer battery that is sold for the hero and TP2, among other phones
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im willing to bet its the same 1800 mah lithium polymer battery that is sold for the hero and TP2, among other phones
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Which probably means that we will be able to get the 2000mAh aftermarket batteries that are available for the Hero. That aftermarket battery on the Hero has been amazing (so much better than the stock battery).
liquidkernel said:
Which probably means that we will be able to get the 2000mAh aftermarket batteries that are available for the Hero. That aftermarket battery on the Hero has been amazing (so much better than the stock battery).
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Some people didn't agree as so, but I absolutely love the 2000mAh battery I bought for my Hero. It took me from 3/4 of a day of use to a full day-day and a half of use.
Anyone know how long the battery will last on talk time and stand by? or what's the average drain?
Apparently, the battery for the hero will work on the EVO. From what I'm hearing, this is the biggest extended battery without the need for a battery door replacement due to size.

Battery HB4F1

What about this battery????
1700MAH HB4F1 Battery For Huawei U8800 i found on ebay
Seems interesting. Have anyone baught?
Should work fine. Nice to know that the U8800 battery is the same as some other Huawei devices too. Should be plenty of batteries for sale.
I fancy a high capacity battery myself.
looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.
darkado said:
looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.
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it s not good the one from dealextreme; I mean does it last enough;
Tapatalked from bed...
i know, 5 hours at the most. still ok for emergencies.
I bought it today... now just waiting for it....
HB4F1
the cheap knock off is the one you can find from dealextreme by searching u8800?
dealextreme.com/p/genuine-hb4f1-compatible-rechargeable-3-7v-1500mah-li-ion-battery-for-huawei-e585-e5830-70554
i just ordered 2. :/
but it's genuine AND compatible
Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430MAH-HB4F1-BUSINESS-BATTERY-HUAWEI-E5830-E5832-E5836-E5838-E5-ASCEND-/130576493812?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e66f72cf4 and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.
fabryxy said:
Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: REMOVED and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.
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see this
Made in Japan
2 year warranty
Ultra-high capacity battery
Maximizes time between charges
Delivers superior performance
Robust & durable battery
Direct battery replacement
Stable and safe to use
No "memory effect"
Lightweight lithium-ion
Capacity: 2430mAh
Well the original battery is a Lithium Polymer and NOT a Lithium Ion
so there is a difference between both off them
Pretty ****ty battery. Probaply not the battery what it says.
someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?
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someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?
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From what I've read, the "amazing" gold 1800/2430mAh batteries are extremely crap.
i have ordered a 1800 battery and waiting to arrive in monday so ill test it and post my opinion!
anyone tested? its capacity is real?

All about Batteries

As we know our Z3 has a Lithium-Ion energy supply. There is a really nice site about charging Lithium-ion batteries, chargers and a lot more.
And I want to share this wonderful site with you here on xda: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
so like is it ok to keep the mobile charging overnight???
Yes it is, and has always been with lithium ion. Draining your battery makes the life span even shorter
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so like is it ok to keep the mobile charging overnight???
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crazymister said:
Yes it is, and has always been with lithium ion. Draining your battery makes the life span even shorter
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Li-ion does not need to be fully charged, as is the case with lead acid, nor is it desirable to do so. In fact, it is better not to fully charge, because high voltages stresses the battery. Choosing a lower voltage threshold, or eliminating the saturation charge altogether, prolongs battery life but this reduces the runtime.
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After reading this there should be a little damage because the stress we cause with the full charge. But I guess the damage isn't as big in our case.
Well batteries have a regulation circuit to prevent that and some phones automatically discharge a little automatically after reaching max charge. Don't have to worry to much about that these days.
A good point for Li-ion batteries. Good thing to know.

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