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It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
zoid_99 said:
It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
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One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
Junior Passos said:
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
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If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
zoid_99 said:
If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
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Hmmm interesting.
Then the process should be with CF-Auto-Root .
I used one of those before when I first root in Lollipop.
But thought the command "mfastboot boot cf-auto-root.img" only work with unlocked bootloader and not the locked too.
Amazing.
Me excite!
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
godutch said:
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
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Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
GatorsUF said:
Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
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No.
cam30era said:
No.
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OF course
This revelation means that Android 5.0 users*no longer need to run a modified kernel to gain root access via SuperSU (or other root solutions). While not a huge problem on Nexus devices with unlockable bootloaders, the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here, and we can present an exclusive explanation of the changes needed. At least for now (until/unless Google patch this), it is possible to gain root access and then install and use SuperSU on a stock Android 5.0 device, without any kernel ramdisk tweaking. The reason for this is the need for SuperSU to run a service as root, to allow for unconstrained root access on SELinux-protected devices.
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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Thanks Motorola -_-
Buy a nexus 6. That's what I did. Still have the moto x for my wife so I can play with it
Can't afford it right now. If I knew programming, you bet I would be working on it. God I hate Verizon, but been here so long it's my cheapest option.
matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
GrandMstrBud said:
Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
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From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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GrandMstrBud said:
LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
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No, CDMA will not work, nor 3G. So you will be confined only to LTE service and Google Voice (or similar).
matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Looks like your idea will not work and maybe that's the reason for this thread? Pure Edition won't work on VZW
I am little shocked to see nothing has come out yet on root for OE1. What are your guys thoughts? Is there any hope us on OE1 will ever get root back?
XNO said:
I am little shocked to see nothing has come out yet on root for OE1. What are your guys thoughts? Is there any hope the us on OE1 will ever get root back?
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It's actually not Verizon, mostly. It's Samsung. I've seen the security on the Galaxy series grow since my GSIII.
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kfres39389 said:
It's actually not Verizon, mostly. It's Samsung. I've seen the security on the Galaxy series grow since my GSIII.
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No, it's Verizon...they blocked HTC from root and access to the HTC unlock option. There are no issues rooting T-Mobile or Sprint S5s.
And no one should ever say never. Exploits just appear...like Towel Root, Kingo Root and KingRoot in the past...no one is aware of their creation...they just show up and work. So one never never knows (seewhatIdidthere) :silly:
KennyG123 said:
No, it's Verizon...they blocked HTC from root and access to the HTC unlock option. There are no issues rooting T-Mobile or Sprint S5s.
And no one should ever say never. Exploits just appear...like Towel Root, Kingo Root and KingRoot in the past...no one is aware of their creation...they just show up and work. So one never never knows (seewhatIdidthere) :silly:
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...but we can assume no one is working on rooting specifically the Verizon S5 with OE1 firmware.
Hmm, that's interesting. Thanks for the update. I used to be a serial flasher, but haven't quite kept up with the S5. Checking only now and then if any progress has been made on the latest update because I want to root because I miss some of those functions.
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XNO said:
I am little shocked to see nothing has come out yet on root for OE1. What are your guys thoughts? Is there any hope us on OE1 will ever get root back?
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ldeveraux said:
...but we can assume no one is working on rooting specifically the Verizon S5 with OE1 firmware.
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It is more that it is not a rushed thing, most people have a rooted version of OE1 that uses OD5 bootloader. So fewer people are without root. It is just a way to directly root OE1 that is not available yet.
kfres39389 said:
Hmm, that's interesting. Thanks for the update. I used to be a serial flasher, but haven't quite kept up with the S5. Checking only now and then if any progress has been made on the latest update because I want to root because I miss some of those functions.
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If you had not taken the OTA update or otherwise installed stock OE1 then you could have gotten a version of rooted OE1. It may be a while before people find anything to directly root OE1 or later, just because there are fewer people who need that, so not as much effort is being put into it.
Kaliaila said:
It is more that it is not a rushed thing, most people have a rooted version of OE1 that uses OD5 bootloader. So fewer people are without root. It is just a way to directly root OE1 that is not available yet.
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yeah, thanks, I already knew that. There's still most likely no way to root stock OE1 in the future. :good:
KennyG123 said:
No, it's Verizon...they blocked HTC from root and access to the HTC unlock option. There are no issues rooting T-Mobile or Sprint S5s.
And no one should ever say never. Exploits just appear...like Towel Root, Kingo Root and KingRoot in the past...no one is aware of their creation...they just show up and work. So one never never knows (seewhatIdidthere) :silly:
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I just upgraded to the S5 from Verizon. Will I be able to root? Will it do an automatic update when I turn it on?
So there is no way to root of you did update on your s5 for verizon?
It will come....we just gotta wait it out, or do it ourselves.
Sent from my SM-P905V using my telekinesis and long Johnson.
jtguldner said:
I just upgraded to the S5 from Verizon. Will I be able to root? Will it do an automatic update when I turn it on?
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Got my new s5 2 weeks ago... it came with it already installed.
Hey,
I have two questions about the Axon7 and rooting in general.
First is, if there is a possibility to root the Axon7 without an unlocked bootloader. Just need the root for some Apps (e.g. adaway).
The second is: if there is a possibility to root the Axon, will OTA Updates work or how do I get updates?
Thanks for your help.
Gebo
Nobody Knows and Nobody Knows, in that order. Really, there's a gazillion threads about this already.
I look for others threads and did not find one about this topic. They all discuss about bootloader. As far as I understood, bootloader is needed for CustomRom? I just need simple root.
And i also did not find a thread about root and OTA. If you can post me links to these topics please? If I can find my answers anywhere else, this can be closed. Thank youf
GeboGER said:
I look for others threads and did not find one about this topic. They all discuss about bootloader. As far as I understood, bootloader is needed for CustomRom? I just need simple root.
And i also did not find a thread about root and OTA. If you can post me links to these topics please? If I can find my answers anywhere else, this can be closed. Thank youf
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isnt possible without unlocked bootloader
pwnerman said:
isnt possible without unlocked bootloader
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Well, you were able root without unlocked bootloader if there's a software exploit back in the day but those are very rare these day.
Lg GA was able to be rooted without an unlocked bootloader. Was even able to get a few roms loaded using an exploit.
Harmtan2 said:
Lg GA was able to be rooted without an unlocked bootloader. Was even able to get a few roms loaded using an exploit.
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Exploits that give you full, permanent root are becoming harder to achieve in recent Android versions.
I know that for the zenfone 2 (ZE551ML) there was untethered twrp, this was then used to flash SuperSU to the device granting root access BUT that was when it was released with Android 5.0 Lollipop...
Hopefully this can carried over to Marshmallow for the Zenfone 3, it might give us some hope too...
Depends how many Devs actually get this device....
xtermmin said:
Exploits that give you full, permanent root are becoming harder to achieve in recent Android versions.
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Darn companies not wanting us to screw around with our devices! Lol I can see why they don't want us to in a way. I just want more customized options.
I got the v20 ,...i got the bootloader unlock h-918... looking for root..tried lg g5 method...didnt work may try tomorrow...other methods such as one click and kingo doesnt work at all....
i think its due to the newest security patches..I dont know but am still searching...Any thoughts
bountyman334 said:
I got the v20 ,...i got the bootloader unlock h-918... looking for root..tried lg g5 method...didnt work may try tomorrow...other methods such as one click and kingo doesnt work at all....
i think its due to the newest security patches..I dont know but am still searching...Any thoughts
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Did u unlock bootloader using this method?
mingkee said:
You can do this:
Make sure you backup your data with LG Backup to memory card.
Enable Developer Options (hit build numbers in about phone few times).
Enable OEM Unlock and USB Debugging.
When hooking up with your host computer, check the phone screen to allow your host computer.
Open cmd
Locate your adb platform-tools folder
adb devices
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot oem unlock (doing such will erase your phone)
fastboot getvar unlock
fastboot boot TWRP.img (if you have compatible TWRP)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/58568e/v20unlockable_bootloadervery_simplesame_as_g4g5/
bountyman334 said:
I got the v20 ,...i got the bootloader unlock h-918... looking for root..tried lg g5 method...didnt work may try tomorrow...other methods such as one click and kingo doesnt work at all....
i think its due to the newest security patches..I dont know but am still searching...Any thoughts
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Wait...really? This is for real right? Haha jk...I did see your imgur pics OP....just a little surprised. (Double taking of the news....still sinking in...)
iunlock said:
Wait...really? This is for real right? Haha jk...I did see your imgur pics OP....just a little surprised. (Double taking of the news....still sinking in...)
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I guess he's just priming the pump for the inevitable hundreds of threads asking if the bootloader is unlocked or the "HELP!!! I'VE BRICKED MY PHONE AND I CAN'T GET UP!!!" threads from the morons for whom reading is not fundamental.
Since the bootloader is unlocked, is it safe to assume at some point we will have root?
Are you able to use fastboot commands? Such as to write a new recovery img. After that getting root is usually a piece of cake.
Not sure if it's different in Nougat but I think with an unlocked bootloader it really is just a matter of time till we get what we want (root).
As a piece of reference on the T-Mobile G5 we were able to root the G5 only after getting a .TOT with TWRP as the recovery because T-Mobile had somehow removed all the fastboot commands on that device except fastboot OEM unlock. If that is the case with the V20 we need talk to @tungkick again to manufacture another .TOT for us again.
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thegameksk said:
Since the bootloader is unlocked, is it safe to assume at some point we will have root?
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Yes I think so from my previous experience this is almost always the case.
With the V10 a user @tungkick created a .tot with root (SuperSU) patched into it. Then use LGUP to flash the .tot.
Once that is done flashing TWRP can be flashed using Flashfire by Chainfire.
Or instead of patching root maybe the .tot can be modified to have TWRP built in...?
Nvm...didnt read the previous comments.
Well. Someone in androiding.how is keeping track seems like it. According to what i read, quoting
"The root method for LG V20 will be a systemless root without doubt. Android Nougat comes with enhanced enforcing SELinux policy for better security on Android devices, so systemless root will be the way to go to get root access without compromising the device’s security."
So, if this is true, at least there is a path to follow.
Here is the link:
https://www.google.com/amp/androiding.how/lg-v20-root-status/amp/
joseguillen1994 said:
Well. Someone in androiding.how is keeping track seems like it. According to what i read, quoting
"The root method for LG V20 will be a systemless root without doubt. Android Nougat comes with enhanced enforcing SELinux policy for better security on Android devices, so systemless root will be the way to go to get root access without compromising the device’s security."
So, if this is true, at least there is a path to follow.
Here is the link:
https://www.google.com/amp/androiding.how/lg-v20-root-status/amp/
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Systemless root is almost becoming the default now. And if we have TWRP is pretty much just flashing the systemless root and that's it. In the recent past systemless root has not been a problem.
joseguillen1994 said:
Well. Someone in androiding.how is keeping track seems like it. According to what i read, quoting
"The root method for LG V20 will be a systemless root without doubt. Android Nougat comes with enhanced enforcing SELinux policy for better security on Android devices, so systemless root will be the way to go to get root access without compromising the device’s security."
So, if this is true, at least there is a path to follow.
Here is the link:
https://www.google.com/amp/androiding.how/lg-v20-root-status/amp/
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Interesting...thanks for the heads up.
Uff mine is coming on 24th! I really hope this beast get rooted. It could unleash its true potential!!!
joseguillen1994 said:
Uff mine is coming on 24th! I really hope this beast get rooted. It could unleash its true potential!!!
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Great...tmo variant or international??
arjuna_ said:
Systemless root is almost becoming the default now. And if we have TWRP is pretty much just flashing the systemless root and that's it. In the recent past systemless root has not been a problem.
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I used it on my g4...Android pay still didn't work.. But systemless root non the less
joseguillen1994 said:
Well. Someone in androiding.how is keeping track seems like it. According to what i read, quoting
"The root method for LG V20 will be a systemless root without doubt. Android Nougat comes with enhanced enforcing SELinux policy for better security on Android devices, so systemless root will be the way to go to get root access without compromising the device’s security."
So, if this is true, at least there is a path to follow.
Here is the link:
https://www.google.com/amp/androiding.how/lg-v20-root-status/amp/
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Systemless is the way...I'll try to create a tot file..if they have released it yet
Double0EK said:
With the V10 a user @tungkick created a .tot with root (SuperSU) patched into it. Then use LGUP to flash the .tot.
Once that is done flashing TWRP can be flashed using Flashfire by Chainfire.
Or instead of patching root maybe the .tot can be modified to have TWRP built in...?
Nvm...didnt read the previous comments.
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Time will tell..but unless I can figure it out tonight
bountyman334 said:
Great...tmo variant or international??
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Im a tmobile guy lol. I have only used 3 carriers in my life in USA: lycamobile, metropcs, and tmobile (currently)
joseguillen1994 said:
Im a tmobile guy lol. I have only used 3 carriers in my life in USA: lycamobile, metropcs, and tmobile (currently)
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... 1st ... ......
Confirmed: Fastboot flash commands do not work similar to T-Mobile LG G5. Successfully unlocked bootloader though so that is also confirmed for the 2nd time.
got my sprint v20 today. looking forward to root and xposed
nerys71 said:
got my sprint v20 today. looking forward to root and xposed
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Sprint bl seems to be locked atm
Not sure if this means anything - but there is the oem unlock in developer options on sprint.
I'm satisfied with this phone for the most part. From what I've read so far, getting this phone rooted seems out of the question. Just what can you do, if anything, as far as customizing your phone like what's possible with Xposed (or even Gravitybox)? I'd prefer not flashing if the rom isn't rooted.
Any suggestions or answers?
Thanks!
PBMaxx said:
I'm satisfied with this phone for the most part. From what I've read so far, getting this phone rooted seems out of the question. Just what can you do, if anything, as far as customizing your phone like what's possible with Xposed (or even Gravitybox)? I'd prefer not flashing if the rom isn't rooted.
Any suggestions or answers?
Thanks!
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Unfortunately for the xt1609 you can only use the stock rom as there is no root method for it. You cannot flash any custom roms or recoveries or use xposed.
Stuck with stock.
classic757 said:
Unfortunately for the xt1609 you can only use the stock rom as there is no root method for it. You cannot flash any custom roms or recoveries or use xposed.
Stuck with stock.
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There acually may be a way... if someone thinks hard enough about it, like with the Desire 526 Verizon model. If enough Devs and Senoir members get together, it can be done, nothing is impossible hardware wise
classic757 said:
Unfortunately for the xt1609 you can only use the stock rom as there is no root method for it. You cannot flash any custom roms or recoveries or use xposed.
Stuck with stock.
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Voltz100999 said:
There acually may be a way... if someone thinks hard enough about it, like with the Desire 526 Verizon model. If enough Devs and Senoir members get together, it can be done, nothing is impossible hardware wise
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@classic757 statement was true when posted and remains so today. Finding a root solution (identifying a vulnerability and then developing a viable exploit to leverage it) has nothing to do with hardware unique to the G4P XT1609 varient. It is hard (increasingly unsucessful) work that fails to attract the critical mass needed to mount a coordinated effort. The puny market for this model almost guarantees no such effort will be undertaken.
If you truely want/need root consider a XT1607 which is bootloader unlockable and works fine with CDMA networks (specifically Verizon).
Davey126 said:
@classic757 statement was true when posted and remains so today. Finding a root solution (identifying a vulnerability and then developing a viable exploit to leverage it) has nothing to do with hardware unique to the G4P XT1609 varient. It is hard (increasingly unsucessful) work that fails to attract the critical mass needed to mount a coordinated effort. The puny market for this model almost guarantees no such effort will be undertaken.
If you truely want/need root consider a XT1607 which is bootloader unlockable and works fine with CDMA networks (specifically Verizon).
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Well, as soon as I get $140, ill give it a go, but until then, ill just have to wait.
Voltz100999 said:
Well, as soon as I get $140, ill give it a go, but until then, ill just have to wait.
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Actually, all you need is $100. The G4 Play unlocked xt1607 is on sale at B&H through tomorrow 6-23-17 for $100. If you want it now's a great time to purchase it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Deal...for-just-100-32-off-its-regular-price_id95252
classic757 said:
Actually, all you need is $100. The G4 Play unlocked xt1607 is on sale at B&H through tomorrow 6-23-17 for $100. If you want it now's a great time to purchase it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Deal...for-just-100-32-off-its-regular-price_id95252
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I got it to root with @utoprime's method. and i am now enjoying that as a result.
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Locked bootloader and all. Here is the method
https://twitter.com/utoprime