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and is there a guide to do this, is it using the sd?
what software apk files do i need?
thanks
I'm using default option to transfert apps on SdCard (after installing), on menu setting/applications.
does that transfer the big obb/data files?
kyrusdemnati said:
does that transfer the big obb/data files?
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It did with Doom 3. All 4GB transferred to my SD card.
But YMMV depending on the app of course
I have bought Tales From the Borderlands, which BTW plays really nice with the Nvidia-controller. Whereas the app itself is installed on the microSD-card, the game data it self (e.g. the different seasons - and those are several megabytes) will load internally. That's sad.
Apps to externals HDD
ive been trying to figure out how to move apps from the internal memory to an external HDD i alread used the drive to create a TWRP backup, i can also see the drive in ES file explorer but i cant find any apps or method to move app OBB/DATA to an external HDD there are plenty for apps to SD but i need APP to HDD. can anyone shed some light on this? do you have this kind of thing working?
beefy143 said:
ive been trying to figure out how to move apps from the internal memory to an external HDD i alread used the drive to create a TWRP backup, i can also see the drive in ES file explorer but i cant find any apps or method to move app OBB/DATA to an external HDD there are plenty for apps to SD but i need APP to HDD. can anyone shed some light on this? do you have this kind of thing working?
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I believe Apps to USB storage will be available when we get an Android M update for the Shield TV.
any news on android m ?
If you happen to have xposed
Theres a module thats purpose is to "reroute" those internal folder contents to its counterpart on external sd card
Theres no mention of usb harddrive, but those in this situation thats willing to test and find out......
"Change path to internal SD card on OS level! Android Storage API tweaks.
This module changes path to internal SD card.
You can: change path to internal SD which is returned by System API, change path to obb dirs, app files, download dir (you can have everything on SD card!)
Control it in app settings."
[Xposed][MODULE][4.0+] XInternalSD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-disablesignaturecheck-t2789267
Github
https://github.com/pylerSM/XInternalSD
If there are and it works, im sure future readers in this situation would appreciate the confirmation assuming theres no other way
Xposed
I'll try that out don't have xposed installed yet but I guess that will have to be the next thing on my list.
on full android i use link2sd.
@tailslol
Thanks for the tip with the app:good:
Apps to externals HDD
For apps to HDD you need folder mount tested and working
beefy143 said:
For apps to HDD you need folder mount tested and working
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I made a post about it here on xda in shield android tv general.
Why does Nvidia even keep putting 16GB options in these tablets and STB? I swear 32GB should be the absolute minimum.
Sub-Negro said:
Why does Nvidia even keep putting 16GB options in these tablets and STB? I swear 32GB should be the absolute minimum.
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Anyway the beta 6.0 is comming with native app to SD support.
tailslol said:
Anyway the beta 6.0 is comming with native app to SD support.
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Does the apps to SD support in 6.0 move everything? Obb and Data.
Also will it support moving to USB or external HDD?
If not I would say it's still pretty useless to me.
beefy143 said:
Does the apps to SD support in 6.0 move everything? Obb and Data.
Also will it support moving to USB or external HDD?
If not I would say it's still pretty useless to me.
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Everything,yes but sd only,not USB.
It mount USB as a external device.
There is no "best way" until we can figure out a way to get the Shield TV to support EXT4 file system.
I installed a custom kernel on my Galaxy Note 10.1 v2014 16GB tablet so I can use my 64GB external micro SD as "internal" storage. It works fairly well. It's not perfect, but it works well.
Once I got my tablet to recognize EXT4 file system, I was able to format my micro SD to EXT4 use a Windows app, there are several.
Then, I used Link2SD to mount the card as "internal storage".
My internal storage has only 10gb free when it's stock with no apps installed. I cleaned out the bloat and managed to recover another 0.4gb.
Using Link2SD, I'm able to install another 11gb of apps and games onto my tablet. My real internal storage now is about 8.82gb free. The rest of the data is stored on the micro SD.
For a lot of apps, it's able to store 100% of the app's data onto the micro SD.....I mean 100%!
BUGS:
Because of the way my tablet mounts the micro SD, if I ever have to reboot my tablet, then I have to reboot it twice. First, I do a "hard" reboot". Second, I do a "soft" reboot. The first reboot mounts the micro SD. But, because Links2SD loads before the micro SD mounts, it doesn't see it. So, I do a "soft" reboot, which only reboots the Android UI. Links2SD has a built-in feature to do this. After the soft reboot, Link2SD sees it. You have to buy the paid version to move 100% of the data to the micro SD but it was only $2-3.
Once in a blue moon, my NOVA launcher acts weird. I just do the process above and it resets it.
Without directory linking, which is how Link2SD works, then there is no BEST WAY to do this because there's no way Android will move 100% of the app to the external storage. Link2SD creates symbolic link on the internal storage, so when you look at the App Manager, it still thinks it's internal and even gives you the option to MOVE TO SD but don't do that! It's already on the SD.
So, bottom line, if you want this to work for our Nvidia Shield TV's, then you need to spread awareness to Nvidia and devs here about EXT4 file system support and hope that someone can port it to our machines!
Neo3D said:
There is no "best way" until we can figure out a way to get the Shield TV to support EXT4 file system.
I installed a custom kernel on my Galaxy Note 10.1 v2014 16GB tablet so I can use my 64GB external micro SD as "internal" storage. It works fairly well. It's not perfect, but it works well.
Once I got my tablet to recognize EXT4 file system, I was able to format my micro SD to EXT4 use a Windows app, there are several.
Then, I used Link2SD to mount the card as "internal storage".
My internal storage has only 10gb free when it's stock with no apps installed. I cleaned out the bloat and managed to recover another 0.4gb.
Using Link2SD, I'm able to install another 11gb of apps and games onto my tablet. My real internal storage now is about 8.82gb free. The rest of the data is stored on the micro SD.
For a lot of apps, it's able to store 100% of the app's data onto the micro SD.....I mean 100%!
BUGS:
Because of the way my tablet mounts the micro SD, if I ever have to reboot my tablet, then I have to reboot it twice. First, I do a "hard" reboot". Second, I do a "soft" reboot. The first reboot mounts the micro SD. But, because Links2SD loads before the micro SD mounts, it doesn't see it. So, I do a "soft" reboot, which only reboots the Android UI. Links2SD has a built-in feature to do this. After the soft reboot, Link2SD sees it. You have to buy the paid version to move 100% of the data to the micro SD but it was only $2-3.
Once in a blue moon, my NOVA launcher acts weird. I just do the process above and it resets it.
Without directory linking, which is how Link2SD works, then there is no BEST WAY to do this because there's no way Android will move 100% of the app to the external storage. Link2SD creates symbolic link on the internal storage, so when you look at the App Manager, it still thinks it's internal and even gives you the option to MOVE TO SD but don't do that! It's already on the SD.
So, bottom line, if you want this to work for our Nvidia Shield TV's, then you need to spread awareness to Nvidia and devs here about EXT4 file system support and hope that someone can port it to our machines!
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you are a bit late but this is ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPGPBN5PJQ
Hi!,
I have a 16gb Moto X Style with a decently fast 64GBs sd card and have it formatted as internal memory (mostly so I can put all my spotify music on it without having to deal with workarounds on the ****ty app). Everything works great and I'm quite happy and all that but I've been having issues with transferring stuff back and forth between my computer and my phone from day one and want to know if it's common or if I'm doing something wrong.
My issues are this:
If I connect the phone to my computer via USB Windows recognizes it but I can't browse it's content. It's empty.
If I use an app like ES File Explorer to transfer files through wifi I can save stuff and browse it on the phone but if I transfer a rom and then boot to TWRP it's not accessible.
TWRP can't make nandroid backups at all.
Are all those side effects of the sd card being encrypted? Am I doing something wrong?.
Change USB mode to mtp
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I'm having the exact same problem. I too formatted my 64gig sdcard and can not make back ups. I get error code 5 in twrp, unable to create back up folder. I also can't browse some folders, I use fx file explorer and when I open some folders they say access denied. I have given the app permissions as well. If anyone can help it'd be much appreciated!
Haven't figured it out yet. Also can not install busybox using any of the install locations
I noticed on a few different occasions that my KODI (now using SPMC but they both behave the same way) app data growing to more the 6 Gigs thereby making my 16Gig shield run out of memory. I have been uninstalling and reinstalling to work around the issue.
I'd like to resolve it so I tried following the instructions in the thread below. :
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=268766&pid=2319979#pid2319979
I'm not using adoptable storage and am trying to get this working with either an SD card (shown as /storage/4B2F-56AC) or a USB 3.0 thumbdrive (shown as /storage/98FB-2ABF).
I created a file in /sdcard called "xbmc_env.properties" (I also tried "spmc_env.properties" even though SPMC is supposed to recognize both).
I added the follow text in the file : xbmc.data=/storage/98FB-2ABF/
Unfortunately with this file sitting in the /sdcard location, SPMC refuses to run.. It just sits at a black screen. I force closed the app, restarted the Shield and it still does the same thing... Sits at a black screen.
When I remove the file SPMC returns to working normally so I know it's trying to process the file.. I'm just not sure why it's not working.. It's simply one line of code in a file so it's not rocket science but I simply cannot get SPMC to launch when the file is present.
Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong ? I'd still like to move the DATA to an external source so if it grows unexpectedly in the future it doesn't interfere with other SHIELD TV apps and functions.
On a side note...
I DID notice that the culprit files that were taking up all the space in the SPMC / KODI install were .cache files... I'm thinking I should just be able to delete them ( I actually did but SPMC was still acting up) to reclaim that valuable space ?
Hmmmm.. 57 views and no replies..
I guess this hasn't been attempted very often on the Shield.
If someone could successfully take a crack at this and post a how to it would be greatly appreciated.
I tried again yesterday on both an SD card and a USB drive w/o any luck. One thing I did notice though was that when I tried to actually write to both devices through the Shield using X-Plore, it failed. With the SD card it prompted me how to enable write access and I eventually was able to copy data over to it but with the USB drive it simply failed and I couldn't get copy anything to it while it was connected to the Shield.
I should lastly mention that I am NOT rooted and am fully stock.
Is this even possible using external storage ? I don't want to setup these device as "Internal Storage" as it's my understanding that when doing so you are replacing the current internal storage (my 16Gigs) with the SD (or USB thumb drive). I tried doing so with my SD card a while back but noticed periodic slow downs on the Shield so I undid the change.
It seems as though the "Adoptable storage" option has improved with the latest update.
I converted my USB drive to Internal Storage and let the Shield do it's thing.
When all was done I was able to goto the SPMC app settings and choose to have the app on the USB drive vs. the internal 16Gb storage. I made the switch and SPMC appears to be working ok. Time will tell if I see any noticeable performance impacts.
I already use a centralized SQL DB for all media info so I'm hoping performance will be the same.
Mods... You can probably close this thread.
the.teejster said:
It seems as though the "Adoptable storage" option has improved with the latest update.
I converted my USB drive to Internal Storage and let the Shield do it's thing.
When all was done I was able to goto the SPMC app settings and choose to have the app on the USB drive vs. the internal 16Gb storage. I made the switch and SPMC appears to be working ok. Time will tell if I see any noticeable performance impacts.
I already use a centralized SQL DB for all media info so I'm hoping performance will be the same.
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You mention a change in performance when using your sd card. You do understand that you must use a class 10 or preferably higher class to make it the same or faster than current internal storage?
I was trying to do the same thing as you but in my case I chose to move internal storage to a 64gb usb 3.0 usb drive.
Then I noticed kodi's performance was absolutely ****ty. The reason for this is because it tries to read data from the usb drive, and somehow kodi doesn't handle that well. My solution was to let the app be installed to adoptive storage but let the .kodi data be read from the actual internal storage.
This eliminated all performance issues!
Don't you need a UHS Class 3 device?
I have since tried converting and testing out both my USB thumb drive and my Class 10 SD card by converting them one at a time to internal storage and moving SPMC over.
I honestly thought my 6 month old USB 3.0 thumb drive would have been faster than a 3 year old SD card but I was wrong.
I have noticed a small performance decrease but nothing near as bad as you mention that currently warrants me to revert to internal storage. Time will tell as I use it more.
shaggydiamond said:
You mention a change in performance when using your sd card. You do understand that you must use a class 10 or preferably higher class to make it the same or faster than current internal storage?
I was trying to do the same thing as you but in my case I chose to move internal storage to a 64gb usb 3.0 usb drive.
Then I noticed kodi's performance was absolutely ****ty. The reason for this is because it tries to read data from the usb drive, and somehow kodi doesn't handle that well. My solution was to let the app be installed to adoptive storage but let the .kodi data be read from the actual internal storage.
This eliminated all performance issues!
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I decided to revert back to using internal storage only. I was getting intermittent pausing of videos that I was watching off my NAS with SPMC installed on both a Class 10 Samsung SD card and a USB 3.0 thumb drive.
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I decided to revert back to using internal storage only. I was getting intermittent pausing of videos that I was watching off my NAS with SPMC installed on both a Class 10 Samsung SD card and a USB 3.0 thumb drive.
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I am using adoptive storage but moved kodi data around for better performance.
I followed this official guide on how to move Kodi data folder somewhere else:
HOW-TO:Change_data_location_for_Android (wiki)
I used ES file Explorer for this.
Here are the steps:
turn on the option to show hidden files (it is the first option). On the root of your SD Card (path is /sdcard) create a file called: xbmc_env.properties.
Open the created file and add only this line:
xbmc.data=/storage/emulated/0/InternalStorage/
You can point to another folder inside InternalStorage folder but you need to create it first. It will not be created automatically by Kodi.
Start Kodi to verify that it works. Kodi will start with the clean profile. Quit Kodi.
Using ES file explorer to erase the new contents of the /sdcard/InternalStorage folder. This is where you want your kodi data.
Using ES file Explorer and go to /sdcard/Android/data/org.xbmc.kodi/files
Move everything to a /sdcard/InternalStorage. Or you can just copy it and keep the old files until you verify that everything works.
Now start Kodi. You should see your old stuff loading but now everything is fast again.
Thanks for the info.. I actually used this as the basis for what I was trying to accomplish except I wanted to have Kodi DATA on the external storage to prevent unforeseen growth end up chewing up all the valuable internal storage.
The problem is that you cannot write to external storage from the shield UNLESS it's setup as adoptable storage, hence the approach I tried which worked, but resulted in unacceptable performance in the form of periodic video freezing.
shaggydiamond said:
I am using adoptive storage but moved kodi data around for better performance.
I followed this official guide on how to move Kodi data folder somewhere else:
HOW-TO:Change_data_location_for_Android (wiki)
I used ES file Explorer for this.
Here are the steps:
turn on the option to show hidden files (it is the first option). On the root of your SD Card (path is /sdcard) create a file called: xbmc_env.properties.
Open the created file and add only this line:
xbmc.data=/storage/emulated/0/InternalStorage/
You can point to another folder inside InternalStorage folder but you need to create it first. It will not be created automatically by Kodi.
Start Kodi to verify that it works. Kodi will start with the clean profile. Quit Kodi.
Using ES file explorer to erase the new contents of the /sdcard/InternalStorage folder. This is where you want your kodi data.
Using ES file Explorer and go to /sdcard/Android/data/org.xbmc.kodi/files
Move everything to a /sdcard/InternalStorage. Or you can just copy it and keep the old files until you verify that everything works.
Now start Kodi. You should see your old stuff loading but now everything is fast again.
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Hi, my problem is with the phone of my girlfriend. Now have external 64GB SD, because internal storage is full. I used Android SDK and all the instructions for set default storage for install APP the new SD Card, you know, with the command adb shell pm set-install-location 2. And no error, i try get-install-location and report 2. But googe play only try to install in the internal storage.
I think the problem is with the system of the emulated storaged or something, but i tried many APP, many solutions, and i cant fix this, i search in google and others locations, have 30 tabs in firefox open with information, but i cant found the solution for this
Samsung Galaxy NOTE 4 (910F)
Android 5.1.1 (Of samsung of course)
Rooted
The vold.stab is:
dev_mount sdcard /storage/sdcard1 auto /devices/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host
PLEASE, help me! thanks
I tried dismounting and mounting the SD, touching the vold.stab file, but do not get any results.
Can anybody help me?
Go back to stock, upgrade to 6.0.1. Then see if this helps-
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
The article is for S7, but see if you can have that working in the N4 - just have a backup of everything (int SD, ext SD, full backup in recovery).
ph03n!x said:
Go back to stock, upgrade to 6.0.1. Then see if this helps-
The article is for S7, but see if you can have that working in the N4 - just have a backup of everything (int SD, ext SD, full backup in recovery).
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Thanks, for the moment 6.0.1 is not released in Orange (confirmation date has passed and still not have it, I assume that is in the offing). When have 6.0.1 i try you solution, thanks.
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Go back to stock, upgrade to 6.0.1. Then see if this helps-
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
The article is for S7, but see if you can have that working in the N4 - just have a backup of everything (int SD, ext SD, full backup in recovery).
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I tried this in my phone. While the command itself worked after a bit of a tweak, the storage situation was pathetic - the phone showed the External SD as a part of the overall storage, but did not save files to it. Instead, it started saving files to the actual internal SD Card, resulting in space running out pretty soon. The External SD card was just there, and there was no way to migrate the files from the internal storage to the adoptable storage.
I just got a new Note 4 (this is the 3rd one I'm using since the first release in 2014) and I also want to adopt external memory card as my internal space bcos the 16Gg duos version is just too small and app to SD comes with a lot of hassles. After a lot of search for different solutions (which I tried out by the way but didn't work) I came across this thread for another phone entirely but it resolved my issue: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/patch-adoptable-storage-enabler-t3460478.
The only downside is that I can't pop out my card (128Gg Samsung) and plug into my PC but I can still explore it directly from the phone itself.
I've been using the phone for 3 days and it runs smoothly, I hope that solves your problem too.
So there are two parts to the adoptable storage. The first part is the partitioned SD card and mounting the partition. Simple to be done via root essentials or the command line.
The other part is the actual menu entry on an app in application manager for moving it to the second partition. IIRC samsung does not have this support built in. So you need to flash something to replace that manager bit. In my experience with an on5 (like less than 1GB free on internal storage out of the box), adoptable wasn't really worth it, too much stuff still on internal storage. As not every app will allow you to move it to that second partition. It requires both system support and app support.
What I did there was to use the app apps2sd. Same idea, second partition on SD card. But it doesn't show up in settings -> storage. You manage where the apps go via that app. I use the link feature which places a symbolic link in the internal storage and moves all the actual files to that sd card partition.
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So there are two parts to the adoptable storage. The first part is the partitioned SD card and mounting the partition. Simple to be done via root essentials or the command line.
The other part is the actual menu entry on an app in application manager for moving it to the second partition. IIRC samsung does not have this support built in. So you need to flash something to replace that manager bit. In my experience with an on5 (like less than 1GB free on internal storage out of the box), adoptable wasn't really worth it, too much stuff still on internal storage. As not every app will allow you to move it to that second partition. It requires both system support and app support.
What I did there was to use the app apps2sd. Same idea, second partition on SD card. But it doesn't show up in settings -> storage. You manage where the apps go via that app. I use the link feature which places a symbolic link in the internal storage and moves all the actual files to that sd card partition.
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I've been using apps2sd fot about a year and it comes with it headache too, sometimes the apps wouldn't find the external data (usually games with a lot of data) and it'll start downloading it again into the internal memory, so I usually find myself having to force stop the app, delink and relink the data on the memory card to fix the bind. I also didn't bother to partition my SD card since I can explore it on the PC with my phone connected. What this solution ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/patch-adoptable-storage-enabler-t3460478 ) does is to flash back the option to use the SD card as internal memory that Samsung removed from the phones and it works seamlessly on all Samsung phones with rooted stock OS.
I'm having a rather unique problem with my the Micro SD card I installed.
I can format it as internal storage and it won't pop up for file managers or my computer.
This means I can't manually move files to it all.
Despite that when it's internal storage I can move apps to it and it adds new apps to it by default.
I could go to move all and move everything it can on, but it's a fairly slow SD card so I'm hoping to mainly put music, videos and any pictures on there.
I worry about it moving the apps that I want to keep in internal storage for speed over.
Does anyone know how I could fix this?
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I didn't manage to figure out how to add files manually while it was internal storage through either internal file managers or through the computer.
But I did manage to find the SD card while it was portable.
The trick is to use the built in file explorer on the phone and copy a small file onto the SD card.
With there being something other than just Android files on the SD card it can then be discovered by the computer.
This mainly solves my problem as I plan to use it primarily for storage of music and game files, with the emulators being on the phone itself.
I had this issue a few days ago. You have 2 options to format, (1) as a internal storage and only your phone can read this and other option (2)to use on others devices. Using the second option I managed to transfer files to my microSD like it used to be.
While using the first option I was able only to transfer apps to it through the system.
I hope it helps
I'm using one, but I'm not even able to find it with File Manager?
Is that normal for Internal Storage?
I expected there to at least be a folder in the normal phone space called SD card or something?
Is there no way to manually move music there when it's internal storage?
Also I tried changing it to be portable but my computer still couldn't see it.
File manager could actually see it and open it but I couldn't copy paste anything to it.
So I turned it back to internal as I can at least move apps to it successfully at the moment.
Rajvir8 said:
I'm using one, but I'm not even able to find it with File Manager?
Is that normal for Internal Storage?
I expected there to at least be a folder in the normal phone space called SD card or something?
Is there no way to manually move music there when it's internal storage?
Also I tried changing it to be portable but my computer still couldn't see it.
File manager could actually see it and open it but I couldn't copy paste anything to it.
So I turned it back to internal as I can at least move apps to it successfully at the moment.
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When I tried as Internal Storage any File Manager found my SDcard too... Thats why I'm using as portable.
After that, i could see this.
Maybe you're missing something like changing the USB connection from Charging to File transfering.
Did you checked this?
Yes it can see the rest of my phone and move files, so I've made sure to change it to file transferring.
When you used internal storage file managers failed to find your SD card as well?
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When I tried as Internal Storage any File Manager found my SDcard too... Thats why I'm using as portable.
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Here your saying that you could find it and that's why you swapped over?
I assume you forgot to say it failed to show up separately and that's why you changed to portable.
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Yes it can see the rest of my phone and move files, so I've made sure to change it to file transferring.
When you used internal storage file managers failed to find your SD card as well?
Here your saying that you could find it and that's why you swapped over?
I assume you forgot to say it failed to show up separately and that's why you changed to portable.
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Sorry! Yes, I failed to find my SD card too, thats why i changed to portable.
Im assuming this is a normal behavior, my last Android phone was a Galaxy S2 and I stopped following Android changes for the lasts 4/5 years. But idk why you can't see it even in portable mode... That should work as worked for me.
Hope someone help you more than I did!
dennismac said:
Sorry! Yes, I failed to find my SD card too, thats why i changed to portable.
Im assuming this is a normal behavior, my last Android phone was a Galaxy S2 and I stopped following Android changes for the lasts 4/5 years. But idk why you can't see it even in portable mode... That should work as worked for me.
Hope someone help you more than I did!
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Thank you for trying to help.
I think I might have figured out part of the problem, the file explorer I normally use doesn't have permission to add anything to the SD card. I'm not sure how I would go about giving it permission though.
But when I use the system built in I was able to copy paste some music onto it.
With a file on the SD Card my computer was able to locate it as well, and I can now copy and paste to the SD card using my computer.
So with your help I was able to figure out how to get portable working.
It is a bit disappointing that there isn't a way to manually add files while it is an internal storage though.
So again while your solution didn't directly work, it made me think and find a solution to my problem even if it's not the one I wanted.