Sorry if this was posted up already but I got an email for the Samsung update but would like to know how big of a difference it makes
+ Most actions feel smoother
+ Browser is much more stable
+ Lag and wonky cursor fixed when typing in web forms
+ Numerous small fixes and improvements throughout
- 720p high profile playback is broken
- New color scheme takes awhile to get used to
The pros outweigh the cons for me, unless a clever developer manages to get 3.2 running on the tab I don't think I'll be going back to stock HC.
I was at my local mall yesterday and saw the touch screen buttons look uglier to me I didn't get to play with there was a long line but everything looks ok but if you say its more stable ill take it I'm getting tired of how it runs slow at certain points
My thoughts: This isn't your Granny's Android tablet any more!
- Printing (but only to Samsung printers )
- Screen Capture button.
- Tilt the tablet to zoom in and out in gallery and browser.
- New notification sound.
- New graphic aesthetics in major system apps, including Settings.
- Hardware shortcut ribbon in bottom-corner pop-up. Wi-Fi, Notifications, GPS, Sound, Auto-rotate, Bluetooth, and Flight Mode.
- Graphic current screen indicator on home pages. Tap on dots to go directly to any page.
- Bottom dock bar, pops up with Task manager, Calendar, World clock, Pen memo, Calculator, and Music Player shortcuts on any screen.
- Connect to Kies via WiFi. (Kies update available)
- Move icons to other pages by tilting the tablet to pan while holding an icon.
- Videos app, Movies in Market, Samsung Apps app, Photo editor, Alarm app, and probably a few more.
Liking it so far
+System video player properly recognizes orientation! This was such an annoyance when using Samsung book cover with tilt!
+Browser annoyances fixed
+Finally an easy to access calculator
-H264 720p high profile broken. Verified in system video player as well as mobo player
-Youtube still does not recognize orientation in full screen playback.
1. More video formats now play in the video player.
2. Good news abou the UI: The GUI is more "fat finger" friendly. Bad News: As a result it's not very pretty. However, I prefer function over form so that's OK.
3. There's a pop-up app button in the bottom ribbon. Unfortunately, the only app there that I find useful is Task Manager. Too bad we can't change the apps to make it more useful.
4. Screen shot is nice. But, really, how often does one need a screen shot?
5. They changed the appearance of the buttons on the bottom left corner of the screen. The back arrow is now an arrow. However, the home button still looks like an upward pointing arrow. Too bad they didn't make that better.
6. The browser does seem snappier.
7. The market now includes Movies. Although I haven't seen anything under $3.99. I'm not going to pay $3.99 to watch something on a 10.1" screen. I'm guessing they're aiming at those who have purchased the HDMI adapter.
8. The "busy" icon is no longer two circles spinning in opposite directions. It's more like an analog clock with a spinning hour hand.
9. There's a File Manager. It's called "My Files." Took me a while to figure that out. It has a polished look. Not sure of all its capabilities yet.
10. I really like the buttons at the top of the UI to get to any 5 screens quickly. However, 5 seems to still be the limit. With direct navigation it would have been nice to have the ability to create more screens ala GO Launcer EX.
11. Calender. They did some horrible things to the calendar. I'm a graphical person. I need to see appointments in a graphical way where a longer appointment takes up more space on a calendar. I detest the Agenda style. They took that away in the week view. Agenda style only there. Daily view shows appointments graphically, but not weekly.
Additionally, the color scheme is abysmal. Violet and white. Who in their right mind chooses such a hideous color scheme without giving us the ability to change it? This just solidifies my choice of using Touchdown instead. So long Calendar.
11. When looking at the Apps screen they've taken away the "ghosted" outline of apps on the right column. That was a cool visual cue that there were more apps on the right. I liked it and could see that it was useful when new users used the Tab.
12. Live wallpapers are still as useless as they were before. It grinds the home pages to a halt. No improvement there.
13. There are more "settings" including a Power Saving panel, a Motion Settings panel, and more details about the Tab.
Anyone know if you can change out the icons/apps on the pop-up dock? There is a better calculator available for example, and I'd prefer to use the Google Music beta app instead of the default one Samsung provided.
So far, in my 10 minutes of using this update, I'm not too happy. More apps I don't use were installed and cannot be removed without rooting (My Files, Pen memo, Memo, Amazon Kindle/MP3, Words, Video). The pop-up task bar has changed. The new buttons to run wifi/gps/etc on and off is neat, but it's ugly and some functionality has been lost from that pop up like clicking on wifi no longer brings you right into wifi settings, which I find extremely annoying. The new calendar app is not as good as the old one, which is important for me. I want the old color scheme back. So far, I'd actually like to roll back. None of these quirks were reported in any reviews of the new TW update I read.
Graphics performance has been improved quite a bit as evidenced in Quadrant and a few games I've tested. The annoying gyro drift I was experiencing in NOVA 2 has also been fixed. The game actually plays quite well now, not as good as ipad2 though
Hoping we'll see an OC Kernel soon, should boost performance a bit more.
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I gotta say that Swype is fantastic. I've tried to use Swype on my phone several times over the last year or so but never could get used to it. Somehow, on the Tab, it's a much better experience. Also, it's nice to be able to move the Swype keyboard to a different position making it easy for both leftys and rightys.
+ MTP protocol improved: you can use the tablet while is connected to the PC
- I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
Gix said:
I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
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Have you tried Dice Player? 720p MKVs work well with it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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Have you tried Dice Player? 720p MKVs work well with it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
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720p High Profile H264 is broken. There are many variations of H264:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
MKV is a container that can contain numerous formats of video and audio.
Yes, depending on the 720p H264 file you get, it may work as long as was encoded less then High Profile.
Why would anyone want high profile? It gives the greatest quality per bit of data at the expense of crunching power, which the tegra2 has. Somehow this update disabled high profile recognition for hw decode, no 3rd party player can fix this.
ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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I've got a TV that is on my network. Curious how that would work. I could see it working if it was running Google TV, but mine is an LG "Smart" tv. It plays videos off my shared network drive, but watching content from the TV on another device isn't something I've ever seen done. Certainly going to mess with it. Will report If I have any success.
ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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Gix said:
+ MTP protocol improved: you can use the tablet while is connected to the PC
- I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
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Should we have debugging check or not for connecting via USB to transfer files? I had a problem initially connecting, I had Kies open and it said that it is not supported or cant connect. I then closed Kies, unchecked debugging, then it connected and an expolorer window opened to view files.
I tried connecting again and my tab did not show up in my computer as a drive. Rebooted tab, checked and unchecked debugging and then it worked.
Very strange, so I am not sure what I did wrong or if Kies was the problem.
Lol 4th thoughts on the update thread....
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4dthinker said:
I've got a TV that is on my network. Curious how that would work. I could see it working if it was running Google TV, but mine is an LG "Smart" tv. It plays videos off my shared network drive, but watching content from the TV on another device isn't something I've ever seen done. Certainly going to mess with it. Will report If I have any success.
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Very easily done using DLNA. The Galaxy S 1/2 devices have an app called AllShare that enables this functionality. It allows you to watch content on DLNA devices. For example, I can watch video captures on my phone on my DLNA enabled TV and vice versa.
We are still waiting on Samsung to release an AllShare app for the Tab though.
Hi All,
I realise there is already a huge thread about the MK809II but I wanted to focus specifically on streaming media to it as I had hoped this would be its main use for me.
The first thing I installed was the iPlayer app. I have been quite disappointed with this as the streaming quality is very poor despite setting the app to use the highest quality available and my TV only being 720p to start. The iPlayer website generally works well when using firefox with the Desktop By Default add on. When available I can play the HD streams without any problem and even SD streams are better quality than the app.
4oD was my second installation. This has frustrated me even more. By default this will not play to HDMI out. My MK809II came rooted so I was able to hide the HDMI out from the app as described (I would've posted a link but I'm not allowed! Its easily found by googling). Now the app allows me to start playing a show but sits continually on a black screen with a buffering icon. I have tried instead to download a show, although there aren't many available, this does seem to download a significant proportion of the show but I always get the message 'Download failed'. Over the last couple of days despite not watching anything the app has downloaded over 2Gb of data! I have read that it will also fail to work if the device is rooted, I haven't had a specific warning about this but again tried another app to hide the fact that its rooted and restarted 4oD but the same black screen appears.
So I thought I could get round this by using the web site as I had with iPlayer, this allows me to log in ad browse around but I encounter the same black screen and buffering icon.
I haven't attempted SkyGO yet, I'm not feeling confident of getting anywhere with that if I can get 4oD to work! Nor have I tried ITV or Channel5.
For myself and others as anyone got a setup that works better than this or used other streaming services? Maybe decent quality out the iPlayer app - or anything out of 4oD?
I recently got the Gear VR and the main way people choose to watch what the person is seeing is by mirroring the screen to their Chromecast or Nexus player. So I've downloaded the app but when I go to devices, it shows my player and even says ready to cast but there's nothing I can do from there. I can cast from the youtube app but I cannot mirror the screen. Anybody know of a fix or another option? I've tried using 3rd party apps like Mirror OP but they have performance issues (when they even want to work that is) plus casting doesn't cause any performance issues for the Gear VR.
Same happened to me.
What you have to do is.
1. Uninstall Google Cast
2. Re-Install
3. Open app
- Do not go to cast screen yet.
4. Close app
5. Close from recent app also.
6. Re-open it is going to give you another tutorial for Google cast.
7. Now you should be mirror your screen directly.
Same happen to me and it took me a while to figure out. Let me know if that worked!
I had a problem with streaming from my op6t on my samsung tv, all the video content I was mirroring wasnt in full screen, i had black borders. I was told in op forums that with a chromecast i wouldnt have this problem, so I bought one today but the problem still remains, chrome videos, youtube videos popcorn movies etc are all mirrored with black borders on my screen, my tv is 55" but when i want to see a video or a movie i see with 48" max.... Is there any solution?
It sounds like you're initiating the screen mirroring by using either the "Cast" tile in Quick Settings or under Settings>Bluetooth & device connections>Connection Preferences>Cast. If you're mirroring the phone display to the tv, then it won't fill the screen because the aspect ratio of the phone is different than the tv (19.5:9 vs 16:9). So there will be borders at the top & bottom at the least or on all sides, depending on how things are being displayed on the phone. For example if you're mirroring a YouTube video and it's displaying at 100% on your phone, it'll have bars all around on the tv. If you zoom in to fill the phone screen, on the tv it'll stretch so it will only have bars on top.
What you want to do is initiate a true cast through the app you want to be watching, assuming it supports Chromecast. Open the app (e.g. YouTube) and tap the Cast icon in the app, not in Quick Settings. It'll show a list of devices to cast to. Find your Chromecast and tap that. It will then launch the YouTube app on the Chromecast. You can then select the video you want to watch from your phone and it'll send it to the Chromecast and it should display fullscreen on the tv. While casting, the video does not play simultaneously on the phone. It's streamed directly to your Chromecast. You can continue to do other things on the phone without interrupting the video playing on the tv.
If you have videos saved on your phone that you want to view on your tv, you can use the mirroring function from the phone, but you'll still have the borders. Or you can use an app like Plex. Again, initiate casting and select the video through the app.
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It sounds like you're initiating the screen mirroring by using either the "Cast" tile in Quick Settings or under Settings>Bluetooth & device connections>Connection Preferences>Cast. If you're mirroring the phone display to the tv, then it won't fill the screen because the aspect ratio of the phone is different than the tv (19.5:9 vs 16:9). So there will be borders at the top & bottom at the least or on all sides, depending on how things are being displayed on the phone. For example if you're mirroring a YouTube video and it's displaying at 100% on your phone, it'll have bars all around on the tv. If you zoom in to fill the phone screen, on the tv it'll stretch so it will only have bars on top.
What you want to do is initiate a true cast through the app you want to be watching, assuming it supports Chromecast. Open the app (e.g. YouTube) and tap the Cast icon in the app, not in Quick Settings. It'll show a list of devices to cast to. Find your Chromecast and tap that. It will then launch the YouTube app on the Chromecast. You can then select the video you want to watch from your phone and it'll send it to the Chromecast and it should display fullscreen on the tv. While casting, the video does not play simultaneously on the phone. It's streamed directly to your Chromecast. You can continue to do other things on the phone without interrupting the video playing on the tv.
If you have videos saved on your phone that you want to view on your tv, you can use the mirroring function from the phone, but you'll still have the borders. Or you can use an app like Plex. Again, initiate casting and select the video through the app.
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Yes I use the cast toggle to screen my phone and then to stream from chrome, what I cant understand is why is this method working with my wifes pixel 3xl (18.5:9) and not with my op6t? I am doing the same thing with her phone and there are no borders when going in to full screen on a video on chrome.
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Yes I use the cast toggle to screen my phone and then to stream from chrome, what I cant understand is why is this method working with my wifes pixel 3xl (18.5:9) and not with my op6t? I am doing the same thing with her phone and there are no borders when going in to full screen on a video on chrome.
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Don't use the "cast" toggle in the quick settings. But use the "cast to chromecast" toggle in apps.
It looks like the icon from the quick settings (drop down menu).
That icon should appear in apps (youtube, vlc etc) when a Chromecast is found on your wifi.
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Yes I use the cast toggle to screen my phone and then to stream from chrome, what I cant understand is why is this method working with my wifes pixel 3xl (18.5:9) and not with my op6t? I am doing the same thing with her phone and there are no borders when going in to full screen on a video on chrome.
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Idk why it works for your wife's pixel but in any case I've had success with using this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farmerbb.secondscreen.free
On my tablet. Give it a whirl?