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Hi! My name is Daniel Perenyi, in the internet everyone knows me as doncortio. I'm new at XDA. Thence I registrated here, because i'm a smartphone-freak and i founded here answers, helpful writes for my questions, problems. This post is not went from me, i mean just debut myself, before the substantial part of this post.
In the hungarian telecommunications forums more and more news and articles told from abroad, focusing for outlander telecommunications events. As i going to University soon, i have a look at the outlander carrier's offers. So, i lost my mood...
In Hungary exist three head carriers and few "virtual carrier", like T-Mobile, Vodafone and Telenor. Its seems good, but we have a problem. In Europa, here the most expensive the cellphones and services. I tell a easy example: in our neighbour counrty's (Austria) either carrier's one service, the "All in 20" giving 2000 min, 1000 SMS and 2GB data traffic, here Vodafone Matrix 7 can not exceed that's... Matrix 7 gives 1200 min/SMS and 2GB data traffic for 21.200HUF (~70€), but in a promotion, we can select a bonus: +1200 Vodafone minutes, or +2000 Vodafone SMS, or +1100 inland SMS. Very impressive, no? I readed a not long ago, in England can buy Galaxy SIII with a 40£ for free. Here we can't buy a iPhone 4S with Matrix 7 for free...
In 2011 was a publication onto the free frequency bands. We hoped that a new carrier will start a price competition. We hoped the Orange for the fourth, because two of our neighbour (Austria, Romania) too acts most well. Many service providers did not apply for the publication, unfortunately, but the black clouds gathered already: a hungarian state service provider consortium applied for the application. The additional candidates with ridiculous reasons, than inapposite filling in of the documents (Viettel Group) and arrear debt (Digi RCS & RDS). It is sure that the new carrier will not develop a price competition, but let me not have truth.
Extra: the telecommunicational tax was introduced already last year, now in June the telephone tax wants to be introduced though... 2Ft/minute/SMS to plus, great. The carries protest against this already at least. It would not have been necessary to grant it the 2/3-os majority for the present fraction, only wrong derived from him.
There maybe a little wasistdas in many, that this why needed i to post here now it on XDA. I would have liked calling attention to in a how good situation in the other European countries. Many of my friends said, thatabroad (England, Germany, among other things) howmany people complain about their carrier. It should be appreciated just though, that compared to the payments onto how much nothing a subscription or a new phone.
(Sorry for my english, i never learned)
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doncortio said:
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This sound like the name of either a spy movie... or a porn movie.
U.S. carriers aren't perfect, Euro carriers aren't perfect, but sounds like most of us have it a lot better than Hungary. Talk about getting reamed.
Right, although I did not claim it, that anywhere perfect. Here even the service interesting... not the customer has truth always? I took it once into T-Mobile service my Xperia X8 inside three days with pixel mistakes, but the customer wanted to shake me down it whit "that not disturbing..."
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Did no one watch XDA developer TV last week. We are suppose to send Motorola a message by not buying or developing for their products so they start playing by the community way. Releasing source code, updating devices that they promised to update, etc. Just saying if we are going to work as a community we should all follow the advice of others that are recommending a complete boycott of said devices. What do you think?
INTEL INSIDE. X86. Will buy this device when devs start to release roms. And motorola is changed i think, they relased sources. INTEL, you can unlock bootloader,INTEL, and they use intel processors INSIDE! lol
Trolling mode off: Tell me, why i have to boycot motorola? Best materials, best signal strenght, best radio, best SoC. They relased sources, the opened a site wich in you can unlock the bootloader. Please explain.
(sorry for my terrible english)
vvveith said:
Did no one watch XDA developer TV last week. We are suppose to send Motorola a message by not buying or developing for their products so they start playing by the community way. Releasing source code, updating devices that they promised to update, etc. Just saying if we are going to work as a community we should all follow the advice of others that are recommending a complete boycott of said devices. What do you think?
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Motorola gave 5 free RAZR M Developer editions to US power-users (including myself and P3Droid).
Motorola has always released their source code for kernels... more timely than some but still could use some upload checkers hehe.
I got jellybean leaks for the RAZR M and RAZR HD.. and hopefully soon for RAZR i.
My bootloader is unlocked...
Boycotting this doesn't make sense. The old Motorola yes. Verizon yes. The new Motorola? Not so much. Every device released since they announced their unlock program has an option to be unlocked, and for Verizon they had to make a separate Developer Edition since they are the bad guys here. If anyone should be boycotted its Verizon for requiring locked bootloaders for retail devices and killing unlimited data.
Cheers
You can boycott them if you want, but I'll continue to buy Motorola devices. They rival HTC in build quality, and the radios can't be matched. Plus, they actually make form factors that I want. Motorola was the only one to make a portrait QWERTY with decent specs (and they were the first at all, as far as I can remember). That gave me 2 more years before I had to make the switch to a stupid slab. Now, they're the only ones making a small device with high end specs. Samsung's attempt at that, announced on Thursday, is a joke.
If all on xda boycotted Motorola I doubt they would notice? Anyway, no use cutting your nose off to spite your face. I certainly agree that their radios are by far better than their competitors. Now under the wing of Google I'm hoping they have changed. Time will tell!
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I watched this video.
paul89rulez said:
INTEL INSIDE. X86. Will buy this device when devs start to release roms. And motorola is changed i think, they relased sources. INTEL, you can unlock bootloader,INTEL, and they use intel processors INSIDE! lol
Trolling mode off: Tell me, why i have to boycot motorola? Best materials, best signal strenght, best radio, best SoC. They relased sources, the opened a site wich in you can unlock the bootloader. Please explain.
(sorry for my terrible english)
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I watched this video and always figured that the host was more informed of behind the scene information then I was. So now am I to believe that what he says is not based on fact? Does anyone censor these video hosts to make sure what they say is actually based in reality? I always turn to the community here to decide if I should invest in a certain product or app. I read countless user reviews and listen to XDA developer TV to make a final buying decision. I think that people that are more in the public eye as representatives of the community should be accountable for the information the are allowed to share. I guess this host just has a lot of hot air based in fantasy? That's all I was commenting about, He must be very misinformed. Sad really. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7HrYgO6uP4&feature=relmfu
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I watched this video and always figured that the host was more informed of behind the scene information then I was. So now am I to believe that what he says is not based on fact? Does anyone censor these video hosts to make sure what they say is actually based in reality? I always turn to the community here to decide if I should invest in a certain product or app. I read countless user reviews and listen to XDA developer TV to make a final buying decision. I think that people that are more in the public eye as representatives of the community should be accountable for the information the are allowed to share. I guess this host just has a lot of hot air based in fantasy? That's all I was commenting about, He must be very misinformed. Sad really. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7HrYgO6uP4&feature=relmfu
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All the information he gave is public, so he's not any more informed than any of the rest of us. He's only more informed than those who don't follow tech news, and those people don't care and weren't going to boycott anyway. Also, all his information is not completely accurate. The $100 rebate is not only for Verizon customers. The list includes several phones that are not Verizon phones. You can verify that for yourself here.
Ultimately, though, he's not misinformed. Motorola did lock bootloaders, they did push updates to an even later date, and they did cancel the updates for a few phones. He just has a different reaction to the information than I, and many others, do. He believes we should boycott Motorola to get them to change. As somebody who has an avenue to get their opinion out there, of course he's going to put his opinion out there. Personally, I think boycotting Verizon would be a better solution, because it's pretty clear that they are 90% of the problem. The new RAZR M/i and RAZR HD are only locked down on Verizon. In every other country they've been released in, they are unlockable. Motorola really doesn't care if you unlock your bootloader or not, because if you do, they don't have to warranty your phone. Verizon, though, for whatever reason, does seem to care.
The truth is, there will never be a widespread boycott of either Motorola or Verizon for this issue. For a boycott to be effective, you have to have a very large number of people upset about something. The number of people upset about locked bootloaders and a lack of updates is pretty low in the grand scheme of things. Most customers have no idea what a bootloader even is, and couldn't care less if they got an update or not. Then there's the fact that Verizon sells far more than just Motorola devices, so even if every Verizon customer that was pissed about the Motorola devices decided to boycott Verizon, it still wouldn't be a majority of those 100+ million customers.
Thank you, Very WELL said!!
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All the information he gave is public, so he's not any more informed than any of the rest of us. He's only more informed than those who don't follow tech news, and those people don't care and weren't going to boycott anyway. Also, all his information is not completely accurate. The $100 rebate is not only for Verizon customers. The list includes several phones that are not Verizon phones. You can verify that for yourself here.
Ultimately, though, he's not misinformed. Motorola did lock bootloaders, they did push updates to an even later date, and they did cancel the updates for a few phones. He just has a different reaction to the information than I, and many others, do. He believes we should boycott Motorola to get them to change. As somebody who has an avenue to get their opinion out there, of course he's going to put his opinion out there. Personally, I think boycotting Verizon would be a better solution, because it's pretty clear that they are 90% of the problem. The new RAZR M/i and RAZR HD are only locked down on Verizon. In every other country they've been released in, they are unlockable. Motorola really doesn't care if you unlock your bootloader or not, because if you do, they don't have to warranty your phone. Verizon, though, for whatever reason, does seem to care.
The truth is, there will never be a widespread boycott of either Motorola or Verizon for this issue. For a boycott to be effective, you have to have a very large number of people upset about something. The number of people upset about locked bootloaders and a lack of updates is pretty low in the grand scheme of things. Most customers have no idea what a bootloader even is, and couldn't care less if they got an update or not. Then there's the fact that Verizon sells far more than just Motorola devices, so even if every Verizon customer that was pissed about the Motorola devices decided to boycott Verizon, it still wouldn't be a majority of those 100+ million customers.
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Now that's some information I can rap my head around. However, let me add one thing that Verizon does seem to care about besides money: They are one of the only service providers I have found that blocks text scam premium service providers. I recently received a text from some supposed event notifications service that I did not solicit. I of course paid no attention to it and deleted the text off my phone. When I was about to pay my bill I noticed an irregularity in the amount. $9.99 charged for a monthly membership fee. After notifying T Mobile of the fraud, they credited my account and told me if I wanted to block such services that I had to pay them $9.99 a month to have that feature. Or I could accept a block on all messages that come through their premium text services for free. I opted for the second and all of my important financial institutions were than blocked as well. After doing research on the web I found millions of cases of this same thing and the only provider not to have any complaints about it was Verizon! I was thinking of switching over to them when my term with T Mobile ends. But now that you have informed me of something else, I guess I'll stay away from them as well. Any other information that you can share would be very much appreciated. I know that we actually vote with our cash so even though it seems like one person is a small amount of revenue that won't be missed, when millions of us make the same decision I believe it does have an impact. Who knows? I guess I'll renew with T Mobile because it seems like no matter which service provider you choose, there always will be some shady business practices going on. Guess you have to choice the least of two evils, kind of like voting for a president. To bad XDA does not have a mobile provider of it's own with it's own devices as well. LOL
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Now that's some information I can rap my head around. However, let me add one thing that Verizon does seem to care about besides money: They are one of the only service providers I have found that blocks text scam premium service providers. I recently received a text from some supposed event notifications service that I did not solicit. I of course paid no attention to it and deleted the text off my phone. When I was about to pay my bill I noticed an irregularity in the amount. $9.99 charged for a monthly membership fee. After notifying T Mobile of the fraud, they credited my account and told me if I wanted to block such services that I had to pay them $9.99 a month to have that feature. Or I could accept a block on all messages that come through their premium text services for free. I opted for the second and all of my important financial institutions were than blocked as well. After doing research on the web I found millions of cases of this same thing and the only provider not to have any complaints about it was Verizon! I was thinking of switching over to them when my term with T Mobile ends. But now that you have informed me of something else, I guess I'll stay away from them as well. Any other information that you can share would be very much appreciated. I know that we actually vote with our cash so even though it seems like one person is a small amount of revenue that won't be missed, when millions of us make the same decision I believe it does have an impact. Who knows? I guess I'll renew with T Mobile because it seems like no matter which service provider you choose, there always will be some shady business practices going on. Guess you have to choice the least of two evils, kind of like voting for a president. To bad XDA does not have a mobile provider of it's own with it's own devices as well. LOL
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Hmm...I didn't know that about T-Mobile's service. I have that block on my account, too, since I got a fraudulent $9.99 charge a couple months ago. I don't really subscribe to texts from many places, but it sucks if I don't have the ability to.
I had them unblock me again!
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Hmm...I didn't know that about T-Mobile's service. I have that block on my account, too, since I got a fraudulent $9.99 charge a couple months ago. I don't really subscribe to texts from many places, but it sucks if I don't have the ability to.
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I now receive text from my financial institutions and was given these procedures to follow if I receive anymore unwanted texts. Forward a copy of the offending text to 7726 immediately followed by a blank text to 4647. That will permanently block the text sender and also get them investigated for legitimacy. So I guess it's a slight pain in the ass but I need to receive important information from my bank or credit institutions anytime there is activity so I can verify that it is me making the activity happen and is approved.
I've created a petition to ask LG and carriers to unlock G4 bootloaders. Please sign and share the petition! Thanks!
https://www.change.org/p/lg-electronics-unlock-bootloader-on-all-g4-devices Another short link to the campaign: http://freemylg.ga
Please try sending a personal e-mail to [email protected]. This will e-mail all the people listed below!
If your carrier is not on the following list, please find their corporate e-mail address and I will add them to the petition.
Currently Petitioning the following:
LG Electronics - Developers
President and CEO - LGE Mobile Communications Company - Jun-Ho Cho
President & CFO, LG Electronics - Do-Hyun Jung
Vice Chairman/CEO of LG Electronics - Yong Nam
President/CEO - T-Mobile - John Legere
President/CEO - Sprint - Marcelo Claure
CEO - Verizon - Lowell McAdam
i have a Europe version .. i don't want to unlock it yet ... ass long there is no option 2 go back full stock ... i recommend you should wait also
You are petitioning the wrong people. You need to petition the carriers to allow this.
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You are petitioning the wrong people. You need to petition the carriers to allow this.
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LG has it locked on all variants. This is not a carrier thing at this point.
Petitioning the following:
LG Electronics - Developers
President and CEO / Mobile Communications Company - LGE Jun-Ho Cho
President/CEO - T-Mobile John Legere
President/CEO - Sprint Marcelo Claure
CEO Verizon Lowell McAdam
Vice Chairman of LG Electronics and Chief Executive Officer of LG Electronics Yong Nam
Just signed.
Admins - can this be added as a sticky to the G4 General Forum?
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Just signed.
Admins - can this be added as a sticky to the G4 General Forum?
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+1 that @TonyStark
stl-soldier said:
LG has it locked on all variants. This is not a carrier thing at this point.
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You're right, I know for a fact Sprint doesn't care at all.
You’re one of 10 people to sign this petition. Now help find 90 more people to reach the goal.
We need a ton more people
Nice step.
Signed. Let me have fun on my phone!
tabp0le said:
I've created a petition to ask LG and carriers to unlock G4 bootloaders. Please sign and share the petition! Thanks!
https://www.change.org/p/lg-electronics-unlock-bootloader-on-all-g4-devices
If your carrier is not on the following list, please find their corporate e-mail address and I will add them to the petition.
Currently Petitioning the following:
LG Electronics - Developers
President and CEO - LGE Mobile Communications Company - Jun-Ho Cho
Vice Chairman/CEO of LG Electronics - Yong Nam
President/CEO - T-Mobile - John Legere
President/CEO - Sprint - Marcelo Claure
CEO - Verizon - Lowell McAdam
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Signed
I'll sign but didn't we do this with the g3 and never got anywhere. I think these big company's don't really care.
Agree and signed.
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I'll sign but didn't we do this with the g3 and never got anywhere. I think these big company's don't really care.
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Yeah with the G3 and the G2. I just figure it's worth a try. Additionally, I've opted to include the carriers as well as LG. I'm hoping it may put more stress/pressure on LG if the carriers get really annoyed that their CEO's e-mails are being spammed by Change.org. Hopefully, the carriers will then pressure LG to give in. I figure its worth a shot.
While I do admire your dedication to getting unlocked bootloaders, I have a feeling this is not going to be accomplished, sadly these companies only care about dollar signs and not the people behind them.....Pretty sure they view it as you are buying the product no matter if it is locked or not, so why would they bother putting in the extra time to build an Unlocker for each device.
I am all in for signing said petition though, as I do not want to be all negative and all that, just want to be a realist about it is all.
Z3ldaFan88 said:
While I do admire your dedication to getting unlocked bootloaders, I have a feeling this is not going to be accomplished, sadly these companies only care about dollar signs and not the people behind them.....Pretty sure they view it as you are buying the product no matter if it is locked or not, so why would they bother putting in the extra time to build an Unlocker for each device.
I am all in for signing said petition though, as I do not want to be all negative and all that, just want to be a realist about it is all.
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If the $ sign matter, LG must reconsider to unlock it so G4 can gain more popularity and (hopefully) sales better (http://www.gsmarena.com/lgs_q2_earnings_may_dip_due_to_lukewarm_g4_performance-news-12767.php)
Btw, I'm sign
I agree with those saying it is unlikely to do anything. However, it is because of that small possibility that I signed. Maybe we won't get unlocked bootloaders from them but at least we can send a message if we have enough signatures. So, share this on social media and see what happens. We definitely need more than 100 signatures though.
norou said:
I agree with those saying it is unlikely to do anything. However, it is because of that small possibility that I signed. Maybe we won't get unlocked bootloaders from them but at least we can send a message if we have enough signatures. So, share this on social media and see what happens. We definitely need more than 100 signatures though.
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We absolutely need more than 100 signatures! It automatically sets the goals. I don't know how to change it.
Might I suggest that everyone with a FB account, post the link, and ask your friends to sign.
Huawei---a "spy and security" risk? I love their stuff and think this is BS
https://www.fastcompany.com/40530898/six-u-s-intelligence-agencies-warn-against-using-huawei-phones
Six intelligence officials, including the heads of the CIA, FBI, and NSA, have told the Senate Intelligence Committee that they would not recommend that U.S. citizens use smartphones from the Chinese companies Huawei and ZTE, reports CNBC. As FBI director Chris Wray told the committee:
“We’re deeply concerned about the risks of allowing any company or entity that is beholden to foreign governments that don’t share our values to gain positions of power inside our telecommunications networks. That provides the capacity to exert pressure or control over our telecommunications infrastructure. It provides the capacity to maliciously modify or steal information. And it provides the capacity to conduct undetected espionage.”
In response to the intelligence officials warnings, a spokesperson for Huawei said:
“Huawei is aware of a range of U.S. government activities seemingly aimed at inhibiting Huawei’s business in the U.S. market. Huawei is trusted by governments and customers in 170 countries worldwide and poses no greater cybersecurity risk than any ICT vendor, sharing as we do common global supply chains and production capabilities.”
Huawei has been trying to enter the U.S. market as of late. One failed attempt saw a partnership with AT&T later called off.
I posted about this a few weeks back when the US deals were cancelled, the mod promptly closed the thread.
I have the phone but no way i'd trust the company.
Went to sign up for HI Care yesterday.
"This feature requires permission to be enabled
(CONTACTS)
I checked permissions after allowing it, it also enabled access to phone in permissions.
Why do you suppose they require that
The Reasoning Is Simple..
Of Course The U.S. Goverment Does Not Want You To Purchase A Device From A Country That May Be Able To Spy On Us...
They'd much more perfer you purchase your devices from a country that has aligned with the United States.
Devices from Samsung & LG.. whose World Headquarters are based in South Korea fit this paradigm.
This way, they would have the option to inject spyware that can spy on you...
Big Brother is ALWAYS watching. :angel:
http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/14/technology/huawei-intelligence-chiefs/index.html
Not liking this. We have plenty of other options. I shall be strongly considering replacing this device. Might reconsider keeping it if a Resurrection Remix ROM surfaces soon.
I have 2.5 weeks to decide before the Amazon 5eturn period ends.
Why would the Uk, Germany and many other European countries allow Huawei and ZTE on their Telecom's if there was an espionage risk? I mean these are NATO countries. If is good for them, why isn't it good for us? As far as I know, Huawei is one of the biggest provider of telecom equipment. So I get it, they don't want Huawei to be part of the new 5G infrastructure. We do know that our Telecoms lobbied really hard to repeal net neutrality. Who loses?
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Why would the Uk, Germany and many other European countries allow Huawei and ZTE on their Telecom's if there was an espionage risk? I mean these are NATO countries. If is good for them, why isn't it good for us? As far as I know, Huawei is one of the biggest provider of telecom equipment. So I get it, they don't want Huawei to be part of the new 5G infrastructure. We do know that our Telecoms lobbied really hard to repeal net neutrality. Who loses?
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When Xiaomi launched itself in India with some attractive budget phones, they faced the same type of criticism that they are stealing data from users but after that everything faded in the background and now it's one of the top selling brands.
I still don't understand as it's quoted above, If it's really that bad then why wouldn't other countries be concerned?? I guess, Recently, Indian govt. Advised that especially govt.officials, Army and such officials should stay away from Chinese Phones though.
I have honor 7X and I love stock/custom Roms. I'm looking to switch to a custom ROM because I guess I have another reason to do so. What do you think guys?
Unless the govt forces a pullout from the market, I think it's just politics. I found this article about Telus/Huawei testing their 5G rollout in Canada. Ihttps://venturebeat.com/2018/02/14/huawei-and-telus-test-fixed-5g-in-homes-paving-way-for-canadian-rollout/amp/
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Unless the govt forces a pullout from the market, I think it's just politics. I found this article about Telus/Huawei testing their 5G rollout in Canada. Ihttps://venturebeat.com/2018/02/14/huawei-and-telus-test-fixed-5g-in-homes-paving-way-for-canadian-rollout/amp/
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Personally, cell phones are a huge business and lots of money floating around....which leads to businesses like Apple, Samsung, LG etc left in the dark if they have to compete with a $199 phone...theirs are in the $800 range. What can they do? Somehow persuade the masses that they are a threat on spying on your phone---as if our government does not already do this....I have a strong distrust for our media and the propaganda of our government officials in the "higher up" areas.
Also, if Samsung is spying through your SMART tv I'm sure they would not do it on any other of their products... (SARC)
Hi. Yesterday I made another post about how 986u1 owners were promised esim in pre-order for dsds , and when phone was delivered guess what it wasn't active. So I posted in members community and put up photo of my transcript from Samsung promising it when I spoke to them via chat. Thousands of other people had same thing. Lies from Samsung. So I posted many times and finally spoke to customer of mine who is consumer advocate lawyer here in Los Angeles and said if I get 25k people he would file a suit. So I was asking people to join.
After my post withing 2 min I got pm from members community saying I was banned and cannot post. I can't even open app. So watch what you complain about on there. If you call their bs they try to silence you with a ban.
All I did was point out promises the lied about. I want my esim
So I today I made warranty claim on my phone that my esim is broken. I will send the phone back every week if I have to until I get what I paid for..
They blame the carriers not wanting it but then why does fold z2 and others and iPhone 11 12 have esim and carriers have no issues using them.
If anyone knows way to unlock the modem drivers where I can open all bands and esim please help. I tried the root on my 9860 per the guide here and it bricked my 9860. I finally recovered it but I'm not going try again , I require dsds plus I was promised it
I have 986u1 128gb and 512gb 9860 both in bronze.
Have good day yall
Mdyche82 said:
Hi. Yesterday I made another post about how 986u1 owners were promised esim in pre-order for dsds , and when phone was delivered guess what it wasn't active. So I posted in members community and put up photo of my transcript from Samsung promising it when I spoke to them via chat. Thousands of other people had same thing. Lies from Samsung. So I posted many times and finally spoke to customer of mine who is consumer advocate lawyer here in Los Angeles and said if I get 25k people he would file a suit. So I was asking people to join.
After my post withing 2 min I got pm from members community saying I was banned and cannot post. I can't even open app. So watch what you complain about on there. If you call their bs they try to silence you with a ban.
All I did was point out promises the lied about. I want my esim
So I today I made warranty claim on my phone that my esim is broken. I will send the phone back every week if I have to until I get what I paid for..
They blame the carriers not wanting it but then why does fold z2 and others and iPhone 11 12 have esim and carriers have no issues using them.
If anyone knows way to unlock the modem drivers where I can open all bands and esim please help. I tried the root on my 9860 per the guide here and it bricked my 9860. I finally recovered it but I'm not going try again , I require dsds plus I was promised it
I have 986u1 128gb and 512gb 9860 both in bronze.
Have good day yall
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Did you really think Sammy was gonna let you build a case against them on their own forums? lol
OP as much as it's a major disappointment for me personally, as well their credibility falling a few notches for the brand name. I doubt much can be done. Since it's pretty evident Samsung dropped to all fours at the request of the USA carrier cartels. Two things can be done, raise a petition and or stop buying their hardware moving forward. Just my one quids worth.
Whats up Limey. I to am banned from Samsung Members for life just for saying, "Sammobile has the firmware your looking for"..lol it seems that the "go to guys" there just sit and wait to report someone that steps on their world. It was funny that another member was complaining about what I said and I corrected him about several things that he had no clue about and then other members started asking me the questions....them poof I was banned. So F Samsung Members...lol
My Rooted SM-N986U Tapatalk
Mdyche82 said:
Hi. Yesterday I made another post about how 986u1 owners were promised esim in pre-order for dsds , and when phone was delivered guess what it wasn't active. So I posted in members community and put up photo of my transcript from Samsung promising it when I spoke to them via chat. Thousands of other people had same thing. Lies from Samsung. So I posted many times and finally spoke to customer of mine who is consumer advocate lawyer here in Los Angeles and said if I get 25k people he would file a suit. So I was asking people to join.
After my post withing 2 min I got pm from members community saying I was banned and cannot post. I can't even open app. So watch what you complain about on there. If you call their bs they try to silence you with a ban.
All I did was point out promises the lied about. I want my esim
So I today I made warranty claim on my phone that my esim is broken. I will send the phone back every week if I have to until I get what I paid for..
They blame the carriers not wanting it but then why does fold z2 and others and iPhone 11 12 have esim and carriers have no issues using them.
If anyone knows way to unlock the modem drivers where I can open all bands and esim please help. I tried the root on my 9860 per the guide here and it bricked my 9860. I finally recovered it but I'm not going try again , I require dsds plus I was promised it
I have 986u1 128gb and 512gb 9860 both in bronze.
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With a clever communication, SAMSUNG is a seller of dreams, the risks are low, and it works, you buy their products: it's good for the business.
Samsung's next watch will have 1 month of battery life, it's promised
Selling dream is a good business.
Trying to open a law suit against a company would count as you threatening the company and they have rights to ban you for it.
So you did a quite of a fault and got yourself banned, never write such thing open like that.
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butchieboy said:
Whats up Limey. I to am banned from Samsung Members for life just for saying, "Sammobile has the firmware your looking for"..lol it seems that the "go to guys" there just sit and wait to report someone that steps on their world. It was funny that another member was complaining about what I said and I corrected him about several things that he had no clue about and then other members started asking me the questions....them poof I was banned. So F Samsung Members...lol
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LOL, Man i was posting instruction to flash Beta without banner on their forums LOL ... bunch of snowflake losers.
Mdyche82 said:
Hi. Yesterday I made another post about how 986u1 owners were promised esim in pre-order for dsds , and when phone was delivered guess what it wasn't active. So I posted in members community and put up photo of my transcript from Samsung promising it when I spoke to them via chat.
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Sorry made your post short in the quote, why dont you share the transcript here and try to raise a petition lets see if you can get 25K people to sign.
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LOL, Man i was posting instruction to flash Beta without banner on their forums LOL ... bunch of snowflake losers.
Sorry made your post short in the quote, why dont you share the transcript here and try to raise a petition lets see if you can get 25K people to sign.
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I will join the petition.
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You do understand, that if they could they would've enabled esim, right? They have certain contracts with US carries that they cannot override... So some guy made a mistake in promo materials, and they had to fix it at the time of release... And here you go...
eSIM indeed there on all N20 devices but samsung have activated with certain carriers only, that means samsung have nothing to do but add a line in CSC to activate it. (even anyone with rooted device can do it, but meaningless if your operator don't provide it) This shows likely it is because of agreement with carrier regarding this. Anyway, banning users is not justified in any case, moderators is premature indeed.
Mdyche82 said:
Hi. Yesterday I made another post about how 986u1 owners were promised esim in pre-order for dsds , and when phone was delivered guess what it wasn't active. So I posted in members community and put up photo of my transcript from Samsung promising it when I spoke to them via chat. Thousands of other people had same thing. Lies from Samsung. So I posted many times and finally spoke to customer of mine who is consumer advocate lawyer here in Los Angeles and said if I get 25k people he would file a suit. So I was asking people to join.
After my post withing 2 min I got pm from members community saying I was banned and cannot post. I can't even open app. So watch what you complain about on there. If you call their bs they try to silence you with a ban.
All I did was point out promises the lied about. I want my esim
So I today I made warranty claim on my phone that my esim is broken. I will send the phone back every week if I have to until I get what I paid for..
They blame the carriers not wanting it but then why does fold z2 and others and iPhone 11 12 have esim and carriers have no issues using them.
If anyone knows way to unlock the modem drivers where I can open all bands and esim please help. I tried the root on my 9860 per the guide here and it bricked my 9860. I finally recovered it but I'm not going try again , I require dsds plus I was promised it
I have 986u1 128gb and 512gb 9860 both in bronze.
Have good day yall
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Sorry you had that trouble - for what it's worth, I am guessing that they didn't ban you for the general content you wrote or your complaints - but instead, they probably banned you for talking about suing them and asking others to join the suit. ( I assuming that was the general content of your post.) If so, you really can't blame them for doing that - I would think most forums would not allow people to leave posts that encouraged other members to join in a Legal Action.
I could be wrong of course - anyway - good luck....
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eSIM indeed there on all N20 devices but samsung have activated with certain carriers only, that means samsung have nothing to do but add a line in CSC to activate it. (even anyone with rooted device can do it, but meaningless if your operator don't provide it) This shows likely it is because of agreement with carrier regarding this. Anyway, banning users is not justified in any case, moderators is premature indeed.
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It will take more than a CSC change to enable it. A lot of the required software is not installed or even present in the current U.S. firmware. I've already ripped apart the firmware.
Key components like SIM Card Manager, are not installed, and the modem binaries also need updating. Tried manually installing them, but no luck.
All U.S. carriers support eSIMs, for some reason Samsung chose not to enable the function in the firmware for the Note 20 series.
If it was carriera not wanting it, then why did they activate it on the fold z and sell it through carriers. Same with iPhone. If carriers had problem with it they wouldn't sell then in their stores and they wouldn't activate them. My wife likes crapple so I got her 11 and just up grade to 12 and both esim are activated and in use. So I don't belive its carriers.
You walk in they activate it on spot. So I don't get why,they won't,
Side note I have managed to open modem.bin file from bri software and have been looking at policy's of if sim is xxx and region is xxx turn this band on and off.
I want to try to find way to edit where it just turns all bands on and find way to flash it. If I can figure it out I will post it.
Mdyche82 said:
If it was carriera not wanting it, then why did they activate it on the fold z and sell it through carriers. Same with iPhone. If carriers had problem with it they wouldn't sell then in their stores and they wouldn't activate them. My wife likes crapple so I got her 11 and just up grade to 12 and both esim are activated and in use. So I don't belive its carriers.
You walk in they activate it on spot. So I don't get why,they won't,
Side note I have managed to open modem.bin file from bri software and have been looking at policy's of if sim is xxx and region is xxx turn this band on and off.
I want to try to find way to edit where it just turns all bands on and find way to flash it. If I can figure it out I will post it.
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Thanks
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Elastep said:
You do understand, that if they could they would've enabled esim, right? They have certain contracts with US carries that they cannot override... So some guy made a mistake in promo materials, and they had to fix it at the time of release... And here you go...
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Blame your carrier; they are partner with Samsung.
For example AT&T tells Samsung what they want in a model's firmware or not. Even graphics for things like contact menus.
For carrier phones Sammy's hands are tied.
Carrier reps will sometimes try to blame Samsung if you let them.
I don't because I know they're partnered... So if the same unlocked model does tricks yours can't, blame your carrier not Sammy!
Samsung S Korea reps can't handle criticism well and will lamely try to skirt an issue on the phone. Many times by asking the same question twice even three times. Once I even suggested they take notes if their short term memory was so poor, bah-ha-ha-ha!
I delight in rightfully criticizing a Samsung flaw when I occasionally get a S Korean rep on the line.
They predictably will be of no help but it's fun to watch them squirm in their own unique Occidental manner, TFF:laugh:
Also can I state that it isn't smart to talk about work around in the official Samsung forums. Unless you want to make life harder for everyone else??
Yeah it sucks they probably banned you but also don't make their jobs any easier finding ways block us getting around some of their silly limitations.
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blackhawk said:
Samsung S Korea reps can't handle criticism well and will lamely try to skirt an issue on the phone. Many times by asking the same question twice even three times. Once I even suggested they take notes if their short term memory was so poor, bah-ha-ha-ha!
I delight in rightfully criticizing a Samsung flaw when I occasionally get a S Korean rep on the line.
They predictably will be of no help but it's fun to watch them squirm in their own unique Occidental manner, TFF:laugh:
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I mean if their jobs don't suck enough right?
Obviously they are being recorded and I'm sure having a job is more important than appeasing big brains coming from tech forums asking questions they know they won't get answers to from first or even second level support.
But yes let's rejoice in their desire to keep employment in the current world climate.
It's beyond them wanting to keep their jobs.
Samsung, especially SK, has the worst tech support I've ever encountered.
Far worse than Sony... if that tells you something.
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It's beyond them wanting to keep their jobs.
Samsung, especially SK, has the worst tech support I've ever encountered.
Far worse than Sony... if that tells you something.
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Sorry man. Still no excuse for being that type of person. You literally call them just to harass them then come here to brag about it. What's that say about you?
Be mad at the companies. Don't harass the people making a living.
blackhawk said:
Blame your carrier; they are partner with Samsung.
For example AT&T tells Samsung what they want in a model's firmware or not. Even graphics for things like contact menus.
For carrier phones Sammy's hands are tied.
Carrier reps will sometimes try to blame Samsung if you let them.
I don't because I know they're partnered... So if the same unlocked model does tricks yours can't, blame your carrier not Sammy!
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In this particular case, this is all on Samsung.
Both locked and unlocked variants (U/U1) have the eSIM function disabled. Doesn't matter what carrier you're using.
U.S. carriers have no issues with eSIM use. They've supported it for a couple of years now.
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rjohnstone said:
In this particular case, this is all on Samsung.
Both locked and unlocked variants (U/U1) have the eSIM function disabled. Doesn't matter what carrier you're using.
U.S. carriers have no issues with eSIM use. They've supported it for a couple of years now.
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Then perhaps so, but Sammy is no angel.
However since carriers are partnered with Samsung their desires carry a lot of pull. Carrier reps out of either convenience, ignorance or both will frequently say the carrier has no control over what Samsung does.
In fact the carrier very much does.
A brief reminder that they are partnered with Samsung usally stops that defense argument succinctly. This how you check this carrier tactic when applicable.
Generally contacting Samsung is less likely to yield a favorable result than contacting your carrier for support. Sad but true; Samsung tech support is literally the worst I've ever seen in a large electronic corporation.
Denon and Canon are the best. Denon in fact is unsurpassed when it comes to product support; they want you to be 100% satisfied. They will intergrate good legitimate suggestions in their next product cycle and even give retrograde products hardware/firmware upgrades on their flagship receivers for a fee but net zero profit. They provide life long repair service for all their products for a modest fee with a price quote in advance (and a guarantee to restore said device to factory specs).
I've personally been thrilled to see and use these services. Easy as pie. Wow.
So Sammy could do much better in my estimation.
If they don't, another company will pick up the ball.