A Nougat ROM question - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

Hi everybody! which ROM of Android 7.0 supports hal3? other than the invicta os 4.15 hal3? Thanks yo all

7.0 or 7.1.2 sorry*

I don't think any other support .. Hal3..

HAL3 support was stopped because it didn't play well with Athene on most ROMs. It is present in Oreo ROMs though.

zeomal said:
HAL3 support was stopped because it didn't play well with Athene on most ROMs. It is present in Oreo ROMs though.
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thanks! so invicta os hal3 its the only rom (android nougat) supports hal3
and what about stock?

zeomal said:
HAL3 support was stopped because it didn't play well with Athene on most ROMs. It is present in Oreo ROMs though.
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i am still waiting for moto camera to be oreo compatible!
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jimmyrs1 said:
thanks! so invicta os hal3 its the only rom (android nougat) supports hal3
and what about stock?
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Nope stock is not!

thanks, one more thing, what is the best of the best rom for moto g4 plus? im on aicp but the battery life is not good and the camera well... u know

jimmyrs1 said:
thanks, one more thing, what is the best of the best rom for moto g4 plus? im on aicp but the battery life is not good and the camera well... u know
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There's no best, you have different requirements than each other so you need to test it yourself.
Here are existing threads that covers that topic or can help you with your decision:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/best-rom-moto-g4-plus-t3703836
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/rom-using-t3691454
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/rom-benchmarks-t3575807

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There's no best, you have different requirements than each other so you need to test it yourself.
Here are existing threads that covers that topic or can help you with your decision:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/best-rom-moto-g4-plus-t3703836
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/rom-using-t3691454
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/rom-benchmarks-t3575807
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Thanks

Related

Suggest A Rom for me.

I want a custom rom (Dual Sim)
-LED Notification
-Can disable sim 1 or sim 2
-Active Display
-Twice Camera
-Good Performance and batt life.
DUv10. 6 (M) rom have everything you want, am operating it right now and the best thing is they are developing DUv11 (N) and what I see there in DU community DUv11 is going to be one of beast rom ever.
So it's good for you to be familiar with DU.
Or
Resurrection Remix by vatsal what I learn about vatsal is he is one the beast developer here.
He believes in developing few rom with lot of features with good performance.
So go with it.
Or
Use stock rom + xposed + greenify
But in Stock you need to flash Kernal like squid or coffee Kernal for led notification.
( I never flash custom Kernal in Stock rom so I don't know whether it's good to flash custom Kernal in Stock rom or not)
xpectedme094 said:
DUv10. 6 (M) rom have everything you want, am operating it right now and the best thing is they are developing DUv11 (N) and what I see there in DU community DUv11 is going to be one of beast rom ever.
So it's good for you to be familiar with DU.
Or
Resurrection Remix by vatsal what I learn about vatsal is he is one the beast developer here.
He believes in developing few rom with lot of features with good performance.
So go with it.
Or
Use stock rom + xposed + greenify
But in Stock you need to flash Kernal like squid or coffee Kernal for led notification.
( I never flash custom Kernal in Stock rom so I don't know whether it's good to flash custom Kernal in Stock rom or not)
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OK thank you very much.
Can I ask what is different between bank gapps and pico gapps?
Cyl3el2Cleal2 said:
OK thank you very much.
Can I ask what is different between bank gapps and pico gapps?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/tk-gapps-t3116347
CM13 official is one of the best roms... If you want battery life, you can install Greenify, Naptime, Xposed Framework, and DS battery saver... and activate all these in the xposed app... you will get the best from a rom...
ganeshsk said:
CM13 official is one of the best roms... If you want battery life, you can install Greenify, Naptime, Xposed Framework, and DS battery saver... and activate all these in the xposed app... you will get the best from a rom...
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You are right, cm13 is the most stable custom rom till now.
You can install xposed and its modules without troubles.
You can install moto g4 camera and enjoy its benefits.
You will not find problems with games or apps.
Use coffee-kernel to get much performance with less temperature.
OK. Thank you everybody.
Can CM13 disable and enable sim like stock ROM?
Now. I have a problem with stock camera.
It can take photo but can't change setting in camera (Quality , Save Location) .
When I change it camera app will not respond.
Spetrum, bro.
CM would be betyer
auth7 said:
CM would be betyer
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Android n
Moto x play official android N hasn't been released
auth7 said:
Moto x play official android N hasn't been released
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Aosp has been here since a month.
Is Rom stable as daily driver
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K.khiladi said:
Aosp has been here since a month.
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Is Rom stable as daily driver
auth7 said:
Is Rom stable as daily driver
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Is Rom stable as daily driver
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Yes, absolutely stable. Just a few bugs like hdr in camera isn't working and 1080p video recording doesn't work.
K.khiladi said:
Yes, absolutely stable. Just a few bugs like hdr in camera isn't working and 1080p video recording doesn't work.
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Any trouble with focusing g and proximity sensors??
auth7 said:
Any trouble with focusing g and proximity sensors??
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Till now, no.
K.khiladi said:
Till now, no.
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Thx for the info let me test it...thanks
K.khiladi said:
Yes, absolutely stable. Just a few bugs like hdr in camera isn't working and 1080p video recording doesn't work.
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Hi. Which rom you use ? If i can know ?
dzesiu2002 said:
Hi. Which rom you use ? If i can know ?
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Aosp 7.0 extended

Best Nougat ROM for Moto X Play

Hi everyone,
I hope you are doing well. I'm looking for a estable Nougat ROM for our device, with great battery life and without notification problems.
Can you guys give me a recommendation?
Thanks in advance!!
ocovarr112 said:
Hi everyone,
I hope you are doing well. I'm looking for a estable Nougat ROM for our device, with great battery life and without notification problems.
Can you guys give me a recommendation?
Thanks in advance!!
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Everyone have their own choice, Max all the roms are stable and awesome to use.
I personally use AOSP Extended.
You'r Welcome.
Hi,
I ask Moto X Play owners the same question than ocovarr112.
I will follow this topic.
I'm using Lineage OS for now, while the device specific repo is a bit abandoned we are still getting more support than with any other ROM and the upstream security patches arrive monthly without delays.
Hitesh Tyagi said:
Everyone have their own choice, Max all the roms are stable and awesome to use.
I personally use AOSP Extended.
You'r Welcome.
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Does VoLTE work on AOSP?
XsoodX said:
Does VoLTE work on AOSP?
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yes
Dual Sim works too? TIA
melodystyle2003 said:
Dual Sim works too? TIA
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yes...both sim working.
slim rom works great. Android 7.1.2. june 2017 security patch. Notification led (white) installed.
However, i noticed a 15% more batery drain. Dont know what is it so far.
Viper OS. For me it's the only one without trouble. Simple, complete.
I like AOSP Extended, but for some reason with this ROM, I'm not able to play FLAC files or some of my videos files...
I think that most of the nougat ROM are fine, it's just up to you to try them and choose your favorite.
@longerXDA Which version of gapps do you use. arm or arm64?
[email protected] said:
@longerXDA Which version of gapps do you use. arm or arm64?
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ARM
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ocovarr112 said:
Hi everyone,
I hope you are doing well. I'm looking for a estable Nougat ROM for our device, with great battery life and without notification problems.
Can you guys give me a recommendation?
Thanks in advance!!
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I have tried Pure Nexus, LOS and ASOP Extended. I faced issued with Pure Nexus but LOS and AOSP Extended works like a charm.
My preference is AOSP extended because of the customization it offers.
Thanks to Everybody. In the end I chose the purenexus ROM as I thought it is the one that had the best balance between features and stability.
I'll give AEX a try, let's see AEX 5.0?
SujaySN46 said:
I'll give AEX a try, let's see AEX 5.0?
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its the best 8.0.0 ....
but its alpha there is a lot of bugs.
im using lineage 14.1 20171123 nightly with most of aroma gapps 7.1 and its working better than all the roms nougat even the stock.
Team Vanir
Rom B140-commotio-lux, balance between features and stability very good, great Battery life. With Open GApps nanno and
ViPER4Android.
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http://www.emccann.net/dho/3-Vanir-mirror/4-nighties/lux/

The most stable cusrom?

Hey, can u reccomend the most stable cusrom for daily use,
Thanks before
You can either wait for oreo builds from @ Teamex or i would rather suggest Resurrection Remix rom which is preety stable in my opinion and offer great level of customisation
Link https://sourceforge.net/projects/resurrectionremix/files/land/
of you dont want of dont like RR then you can go for DND else simply go for lineage os. A thanks is appreciated if you found it helpful
Ash225 said:
You can either wait for oreo builds from @ Teamex or i would rather suggest Resurrection Remix rom which is preety stable in my opinion and offer great level of customisation
Link https://sourceforge.net/projects/resurrectionremix/files/land/
of you dont want of dont like RR then you can go for DND else simply go for lineage os. A thanks is appreciated if you found it helpful
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Agreed!!
ResurrectionRemix ROM is quite stable (Both Official and Unofficial), I am using RR ROM for a long time (Official) and no issues so far. No battery draining. Some minor bugs present which can fixed easily (Fixed in unofficial builds).
Ash225 said:
You can either wait for oreo builds from @ Teamex or i would rather suggest Resurrection Remix rom which is preety stable in my opinion and offer great level of customisation
Link https://sourceforge.net/projects/resurrectionremix/files/land/
of you dont want of dont like RR then you can go for DND else simply go for lineage os. A thanks is appreciated if you found it helpful
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Thnx really nyc information
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Pawan.S 5277! said:
Agreed!!
ResurrectionRemix ROM is quite stable (Both Official and Unofficial), I am using RR ROM for a long time (Official) and no issues so far. No battery draining. Some minor bugs present which can fixed easily (Fixed in unofficial builds).
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Bro which build u r using
Ushubh Singh said:
Thnx really nyc information
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Bro which build u r using
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RR Official Final!!
Pawan.S 5277! said:
RR Official Final!!
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Kk...
Go for lineage 15 i use it for daily use and all is working properly use footej cam for videos.. Thats it.. Stable and no other bugs faced
Lazyboy-Summit said:
Go for lineage 15 i use it for daily use and all is working properly use footej cam for videos.. Thats it.. Stable and no other bugs faced
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Bluetooth doesn't. Try pairing it with an audio device.
william.johhn7! said:
Bluetooth doesn't. Try pairing it with an audio device.
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Yea i forgot Bluetooth.. As till now there was no use bluetooth was not even in my mind. Thn u can blindly go for RR Official or AOSP the stable roms. I prefer to be updated ? thats the reasong I am on oreo what works what not doesn't matter to me???
Bro my bluetooth is working with no errors.
See the attachment
Lazyboy-Summit said:
Bro my bluetooth is working with no errors.
See the attachment
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Try pairing with audio devices like a Bluetooth headset
i'm using woivod version of AEX, splendid rom
[emoji848][emoji846] I prefer vipor os by impulser or cr driod rom...i used not all but i used most of them but i like this 2 rom...smooth battery backup is awesome no bug....camera quality is same on all the rom..u can use mi camera it work perfect...
Sent from my Redmi 3S using Tapatalk
F4nno said:
Hey, can u reccomend the most stable cusrom for daily use,
Thanks before
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ASOP rom is quite stable and we can use all apps that identifies root access
Someone already have a similar post so posting same responce here as well to help you decide or confuse
LineageOS 14.1 from Daniel.Stuart ( 25th Oct Build is by far best or go for next one which is supposed to be fully stable )
Pros --> Rom having active development and developer is very interactive in replies.
Cons --> No video call in Volte but that is general for all.
[OREO][8.0.0_r33]XPerience 12.0.0 by TeamMex --> It's Oreo so have few bugs but the developer is the best on for Redmi 3s.
Pros --> OTA and latest from Google (oreo 8.0)
Cons --> VOLTE won't work
Most stable ones are below but they are abandoned ( no future development)
Lineage 14.1 from KarthikMostWanted
Darkness Redefined from XiaomiDev
Note --> No rom would give Video calling thr dialer for Volte.
I personally have used all of above for atleast 2 weeks ( except Oreo one which was for a week)
All are good battery and smooth but video calling is must for me I am on MIUI9 Global Developer ROM.

Finally working vilte by Augustin!

Yes, vilte (video call on jio) is working perfectly on his (Augustin!) Latest build. Checked myself.
Here is the link "removed"
Download latest build.
Enjoy video calling.:laugh:
PrincE.. said:
Yes, vilte (video call on jio) is working perfectly on his (Augustin!) Latest build. Checked myself.
Here is the link https://ota.zuk.qnsystem.com/download/z2_plus/
Download latest build.
Enjoy video calling.:laugh:
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Review the build in terms of battery and performance and heat .
STARK0711 said:
Review the build in terms of battery and performance and heat .
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everything seems balanced, will review later.
Where can we follow his development?
New build of spanish dev is lit ??
Super stable with stock experience
Not so much of customization
Below is battery backup from 85 with pubg of 17 min and all the setup thing from scratch
vuckovic_stefan said:
Where can we follow his development?
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Don't know someone removed the link if u want the build can upload to gdrive for u
If u use telegram ill give u link there
I hope this is implemented in all all roms
STARK0711 said:
Don't know someone removed the link if u want the build can upload to gdrive for u
If u use telegram ill give u link there
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Yes mate I use Telegram, I'll pm you.
Thanks!
ViLTE isn't actually fixed by Augustin, but it is fixed in the Sources of Zuk-devs ( by Cosmedd )
He updated Graphics, Media, post processing, TUI and several other blobs from a 89xx device named Bardock pro having latest Oreo 8.1
Commit:
https://github.com/zuk-devs/android_vendor_zuk/commit/8b27a5341796196a5997ccf26b48e29fb5b601a7
https://github.com/zuk-devs/android...mmit/a0486b3c95d487a3b8fbcca1dd0a6249b1d01327
This wasn't on purpose to fix ViLTE but rather accidentally ViLTE got fixed too
Augustin's builds are based on Zukdevs ( technically all are based on these trees or old davidevinavil and dd3boh's trees with their own changes... )
kubersharma said:
ViLTE isn't actually fixed by Augustin, but it is fixed in the Sources of Zuk-devs ( by Cosmedd )
He updated Graphics, Media, post processing, TUI and several other blobs from a 89xx device named Bardock pro having latest Oreo 8.1
Commit:
https://github.com/zuk-devs/android_vendor_zuk/commit/8b27a5341796196a5997ccf26b48e29fb5b601a7
https://github.com/zuk-devs/android...mmit/a0486b3c95d487a3b8fbcca1dd0a6249b1d01327
This wasn't on purpose to fix ViLTE but rather accidentally ViLTE got fixed too
Augustin's builds are based on Zukdevs ( technically all are based on these trees or old davidevinavil and dd3boh's trees with their own changes... )
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Can You Tell Davide To Merge These Changes So That Everybody On New Trees Get Vilte working in their roms
AstroBiswas said:
Can You Tell Davide To Merge These Changes So That Everybody On New Trees Get Vilte working in their roms
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Zukdevs = DavideVinavil, Cosmedd and DD3boh.
So, they were side by side..
https://github.com/zuk-devs/android_device_zuk_msm8996-common/commits/8x-caf
So things seems to be positive from zuk developers that our device is going to be official from los 15.1 ...
Many of like me are waiting for it...
Hope it get the official status from los 15.1 soon..
Fringes crossed...
Gud nite ..
kubersharma said:
ViLTE isn't actually fixed by Augustin, but it is fixed in the Sources of Zuk-devs ( by Cosmedd )
He updated Graphics, Media, post processing, TUI and several other blobs from a 89xx device named Bardock pro having latest Oreo 8.1
Commit:
https://github.com/zuk-devs/android_vendor_zuk/commit/8b27a5341796196a5997ccf26b48e29fb5b601a7
https://github.com/zuk-devs/android...mmit/a0486b3c95d487a3b8fbcca1dd0a6249b1d01327
This wasn't on purpose to fix ViLTE but rather accidentally ViLTE got fixed too
Augustin's builds are based on Zukdevs ( technically all are based on these trees or old davidevinavil and dd3boh's trees with their own changes... )
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https://github.com/DevelopedInside/android_device_bq_bardockpro
Thanks, i actually tried Agustin build of LOS, it is great. Vilte is not something i use but its nice to know even that is working now
Thanks for right info. I hope development of our device is going to continue with this pace ))
vuckovic_stefan said:
https://github.com/DevelopedInside/android_device_bq_bardockpro
Thanks, i actually tried Agustin build of LOS, it is great. Vilte is not something i use but its nice to know even that is working now
Thanks for right info. I hope development of our device is going to continue with this pace ))
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Can you please give me the Link of Los by Agustin ?
Gagandaywal said:
Can you please give me the Link of Los by Agustin ?
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There it is mate on second post if u have problem I'm gonna pm the link to you
Where was this ROM till now?
PrincE.. said:
Yes, vilte (video call on jio) is working perfectly on his (Augustin!) Latest build. Checked myself.
Here is the link "removed"
Download latest build.
Enjoy video calling.:laugh:
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Such a beautiful ROM, almost everything works with the option to easily toggle between zuk performance mode to normal. Battery saving setting in battery options is marvelous for low usage.
Where is this tread actually located?
Shinichi Kudo said:
Such a beautiful ROM, almost everything works with the option to easily toggle between zuk performance mode to normal. Battery saving setting in battery options is marvelous for low usage.
Where is this tread actually located?
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actually it was his personal build to test(so threre is not any thread available for his build), he will release soon new build after fixing some minor bugs with new thread.
Vilte calls are fekked by 180° on the reciever's end thou
Shinichi Kudo said:
Such a beautiful ROM, almost everything works with the option to easily toggle between zuk performance mode to normal. Battery saving setting in battery options is marvelous for low usage.
Where is this tread actually located?
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Where is that Zuk performance mode option? Thanks
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Gagandaywal said:
Can you please give me the Link of Los by Agustin ?
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Use this build
https://ota.zuk.qnsystem.com/download/z2_plus/lineage-15.1-20180510-UNOFFICIAL-z2_plus.zip
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Where is that Zuk performance mode option? Thanks
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Use this build
https://ota.zuk.qnsystem.com/download/z2_plus/lineage-15.1-20180510-UNOFFICIAL-z2_plus.zip
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Thanks

AOD on Lineage os Oreo based ROMs

AOD on Lineage os Oreo based ROMs for j5 2016?
NecromancerViper said:
AOD on Lineage os Oreo based ROMs for j5 2016?
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I have used lineage os before but it never including aod(except pie that all pie have aod)but you can also use substratum to have aod on oreo
You can download it on play store for free
amirizad_7436 said:
I have used lineage os before but it never including aod(except pie that all pie have aod)but you can also use substratum to have aod on oreo
You can download it on play store for free
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Any other way? Because using substratum breaks the built-in color system....
NecromancerViper said:
Any other way? Because using substratum breaks the built-in color system....
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Well...there is some app on play store that are built for aod but i don't prefer them(i used them before and wasn't so good)
BTW: why you don't use pie ROMs for your phone!?
They are much great and more features such AOD and many thing else
Best way is use them
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Any other way? Because using substratum breaks the built-in color system....
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Can't remember if it works on Oreo but I think it does. Magisk needs to be installed for this to work. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-OxpGzldie3-8Kk8ubvYpN8qO2PAnc3I/view?usp=drivesdk
amirizad_7436 said:
Well...there is some app on play store that are built for aod but i don't prefer them(i used them before and wasn't so good)
BTW: why you don't use pie ROMs for your phone!?
They are much great and more features such AOD and many thing else
Best way is use them
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They feel "heavy", I mean, laggy... But on my work phone I indeed use Pixel OS 9.0 (still a j5 2016). Still, thank you for your help!
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Can't remember if it works on Oreo but I think it does. Magisk needs to be installed for this to work. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-OxpGzldie3-8Kk8ubvYpN8qO2PAnc3I/view?usp=drivesdk
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Thank you dude, gonna try it in a sec! This is a lifesaver for me
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Can't remember if it works on Oreo but I think it does. Magisk needs to be installed for this to work. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-OxpGzldie3-8Kk8ubvYpN8qO2PAnc3I/view?usp=drivesdk
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Which android version is compilable Whit this?
Gary, you always have better ways:good:
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NecromancerViper said:
They feel "heavy", I mean, laggy... But on my work phone I indeed use Pixel OS 9.0 (still a j5 2016). Still, thank you for your help!
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You know man don't sure about a things before you try them by yourself
I use pie aosp rom on my j5 2015 and it's absolutely amazing and great performance (BTW i use some booster module)but it's much great at all
amirizad_7436 said:
Which android version is compilable Whit this?
Gary, you always have better ways:good:
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You know man don't sure about a things before you try them by yourself
I use pie aosp rom on my j5 2015 and it's absolutely amazing and great performance (BTW i use some booster module)but it's much great at all
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You mean AOSPExtended?
NecromancerViper said:
You mean AOSPExtended?
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No my mean from AOSP is android open source project that includes pixel ui
I use bootleggers rom for my j5,15
There are about 5or6 pie roms for your device
Just take look at them at froums
Edit:Btw:are you using stock firmware?or not it's custom
amirizad_7436 said:
No my mean from AOSP is android open source project that includes pixel ui
I use bootleggers rom for my j5,15
There are about 5or6 pie roms for your device
Just take look at them at froums
Edit:Btw:are you using stock firmware?or not it's custom
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Custom ROM- Havok os 8.1 Oreo. Bootleggers lags hard on my device
NecromancerViper said:
Custom ROM- Havok os 8.1 Oreo. Bootleggers lags hard on my device
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Well try another roms
Btw bootleggers rom have great and talented dev
If you mean of laggy scroll between apps you can esaly install launcher
I use it and it's perfect
I can also prefer you some magisk module for better performance if you want

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