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Attached are the latest updated zips.
FAQ:
How do I install Viper???
Go into recovery and flash the zip. It will take care of most of the steps for you. Upon your first launch of the app you will be prompted to install drivers of your choosing then be prompted for a reboot. If coming from a previous version of Viper or you have any other sound mods I fully recommend uninstalling them. Then go into recovery and flash your ROM and the zip in one session.
Well what drivers do I use???
I recommend Super Audio quality. It uses a higher sampling rate which can be thought of as like a megapixel on a camera. More sample information equals cleaner signal but your files must be equal to or better than the driver sampling rate. I find the highs to be much cleaner and have less distortion with Super Audio. While the prompt warns about extra battery usage, testing with Better Battery Stats for me has shown the effect on battery life to be minimal. You will get higher drain using the Convolver then by choosing a higher quality driver.
Well what is Convolver and how do I use it???
Convolver will play a real time sample of an effect or eq as the sound is being processed. You can get really awesome effects from some of the irs samples but they come at a high price of battery usage. Using this setting doubled battery life usage for me on even conservative kernel governors. To enable you must go to the menu and enable Moderate or Expert UI, then press the button to enable Convolver and press Impulse Response, this will create a ViPER4Android folder on your SD card and within that you will have a folder named Kernel. This is where you will put your Irs Samples you download. You can find links to Irs packs here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2216193 PS......I've found that not all samples in all the packs work correctly and some will give no sound change.
HAAAAALP! This stoopit mod is killing my battery!!!
No it isn't. Unless you're using Convolver after being warned about it's effect on battery you should see little to no difference in daily use of getting notifications, texts, etc. I get about 6% an hour battery usage during music playback while streaming over bluetooth. If you're using a wired headset it should be less than that. I have never not even once seen Viper pop up on my stock battery stats and have only seen it as <1% on GSam after a full charge. Compatibility mode can be used as a last resort and final option if you're determined to call me a liar. Steps to enable it are outlined below.
This hack is ballz...I know wantz no mo???
To completely remove the changes done by my install zips you will need to do a manual wipe of system/davlik/cache to get rid of everything and then reflash ROM/Gapps/Mods. Reflashing your ROM without a manual wipe will not remove anything do to the addon.d scripts added so the zip will survive dirty flashes.
Why put the app in priv-app???
This will help to insure that Viper doesn't get killed by Android OOM to keep the sweet sound pumping into your ears!!!
My Viper isn't working!!!
Did you install by flashing the zip??? Is your apk in priv-app??? Do you have any other conflicting sound mods or eq's??? Is Viper enabled and you have installed the drivers and done a reboot??? Have you put SELinux into permissive mode???
Some people have luck adding or changing these lines in their build.prop:
##Viper4android
lpa.decode=false
tunnel.decode=false
lpa.use-stagefright=false
lpa.releaselock=false
Also some music players work better by switching to Compatibility Mode. To do that go to menu, click FX Compatible Mode, then click Compatible. Doing this should cause Viper to only modify media players instead of changing sound system wide. Some users say this helps with battery usage as Viper will only process sound when you want it to.
Still stuck? There is tons of helpful information in this thread that you can find by helping yourself click that "Search this thread" function towards the top right of your screen. Still stuck after that....ask away!
Wanted to say thanks to @rootSU and @FlyinGrub for lending a helping hand, @FuMMoD for posting updates to the Viper apk and libs, @davwman for getting this thread started, @Hid3rs for the Material Design framework, @chdloc for the awesome Stereo mix, @Spasticdroid for the audio_policy editing script, @Alex240188 for the material design Viper 2.3.4.0 apk, @//.dax for the sweet new icon. And of course the awesome Viper team for creating Viper. I refuse to run my phone without it!
Here is a link to the official thread for more information: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
!!!!!!LOLLIPOP USERS!!!!!!!! You NO LONGER need a full permissive kernel to get Viper working as long as you use SuperSU. To test your kernel open Google Play Music and play a track. If you get a "couldn't play stream requested message" you need to download this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524485] and set it to PERMISSIVE mode, find yourself a full permisssive kernel, or switch to SuperSU. Enjoy!!!!
P.S.:
LolliViPER.zip will install Viper to priv-app and remove Audio FX, DSP Manager, and Music FX. It will also edit the audio_policy.conf for added app compatibility and add a script to allow Viper to work with SELinux enforcing with SuperSU. ***BONUS for ROMs with addon.d support-the zip will place a script into addon.d that will automatically backup and restore everything changed by the zip on dirty flashes eliminating the need to flash every update so long as you do not do a manual system wipe.***
LolliViPERsurROUND.zip will install Viper to priv-app and remove Audio FX, DSP Manager, and Music FX, and change the mixer path to enable the earpiece as a second speaker for stereo sound. It will also edit the audio_policy.conf for added app compatibility and add a script to allow Viper to work with SELinux enforcing with SuperSU. ***BONUS for ROMs with addon.d support-the zip will place a script into addon.d that will automatically backup and restore everything changed by the zip on dirty flashes eliminating the need to flash every update so long as you do not do a manual system wipe.*** !!!!!THIS MAY CAUSE BOOTLOOPS ON DEVICES OTHER THAN THE NEXUS 5!!!!!
5.1.x stock ROM users may need to remove system apps for the install to work. Google filled the system partition to the brim with little to no room left for installation.
The apk in all these zips use the Material Design Framework and may not install on devices lower than 5.0.
Im using it since the start so i cant really comment on How it was before but the sound quality is awesome on my n5. Dunno but i guess The bass is a bit low so i Bad to raise it More than other EQs I've used.. I heard the KitKat DSP is pretty nice as well but as I said I can't comment on that?
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Anyone using it on the awesome nexus 5? If so, any noticeable improvements? Which one to install? And any negative effects?
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V4A works well on N5 BUT:
- I sometimes have interferences when listening to my podcast audio files. I need to make some tests to know if this is due to V4A or an audio mod.
- there's no more IRS options atm and this is a shame!
- I'm going to flash OmniROM (again) and I'll only use DSP app for a few days and see what happens.
I won't run a phone without it!!!
Primokorn said:
V4A works well on N5 BUT:
- I sometimes have interferences when listening to my podcast audio files. I need to make some tests to know if this is due to V4A or an audio mod.
- there's no more IRS options atm and this is a shame!
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Been running Convolver with IRS samples since Nov 9th. I did notice that some were taken down but there are still some out there.
which mode are you guys using? Battery saving, high q or super quality? Also, it says, that super quality may increase battery drain.. Dont you guys know how much it takes from battery? Thanks
I'm using it on high quality. I DO notice a difference. The sound was a lot flatter before V4A. It's much more robust with it.
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Super quality here. Battery usage during music is fantastic for me even streaming over bluetooth.
Super quality here. Purity Rom + Franco + PA Mini Gapps + Viper = rockin'
Not real noticeable on n5 speakers, but with good headphones it's night and day.... and my Klipsch s4's are not the best, but good enough for my listening. Some good profiles here.
What version do I download?
FX version v2.3.1.3 (Android 2.3~4.4): Mediafire
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What version do I download?
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The latest fx version on their website. Extract the zip and install the 4.0+ version
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I went with Battery Saver. I'm not an audiophile and all I mainly listen to are podcasts. It *does* work, you can definitely here changes when you activate features or change sliders. Using the Convolver with Urei 1178 Impluse.irs, but tried Beats and WaveMaxx .irs as well. I was a EIZO user, but when they got rid of user configurable EQ, I baled.
If you are using equalizers from within music players like Poweramp, does viper4android improve sound quality in some other way apart from offering equalizers?
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If you are using equalizers from within music players like Poweramp, does viper4android improve sound quality in some other way apart from offering equalizers?
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You can run it in compatibility mode and it will enhance your built in eq's.
I love the .irs files and what they do to the sound. I love tube amps and I play with the different .irs tube files and you can really notice a difference. I made sure to save all the .irs files I found and I'm glad I did.
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You can run it in compatibility mode and it will enhance your built in eq's.
I love the .irs files and what they do to the sound. I love tube amps and I play with the different .irs tube files and you can really notice a difference. I made sure to save all the .irs files I found and I'm glad I did.
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Just installed v4a and started playing with it. Any recommendation about .irs files or are they strictly related to headphones?
giannis_ch said:
Just installed v4a and started playing with it. Any recommendation about .irs files or are they strictly related to headphones?
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The convolver works with any of the modes as long as its turned on. Go to the "official" v4a site --> http://vipersaudio.com/blog/ and download the couple of files they have and try them out. I think the v4a developer has basically stopped all links to any .irs files and is "centralizing" them. But you know the deal, whats on the web stays on the web, so seek and ye shall find.
Has anyone gotten it to run with Rocket Player? It isn't working at all with it over headphone or speaker. Driver status processing=NO. I've tried all the workarounds and none of them have helped.
Am I just high or what? I can't find a flippin download link?
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Never mind, I'm retarded.
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Primokorn said:
V4A works well on N5 BUT:
- I sometimes have interferences when listening to my podcast audio files. I need to make some tests to know if this is due to V4A or an audio mod.
- there's no more IRS options atm and this is a shame!
- I'm going to flash OmniROM (again) and I'll only use DSP app for a few days and see what happens.
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IRS options are still there, you just have to set it to Expert instead of Beginner
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IRS options are still there, you just have to set it to Expert instead of Beginner
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Damn! I didn't know there was different modes into the app!!! You made my day
FYI the interferences I had were not due to V4A. I changed my rom, kernel and didn't apply the audio mod and everything works fine now.
The other day I went looking for an audio DSP to use on my Shield Tablet running Lollipop. I came upon some posts recommending "Viper4Android" and went looking for a away to install it.
Here's my instructions, adapted from this article: http://www.droidviews.com/guide-viper4android-make-work-lollipop-lrx21o/
Download "TestLolliViPER_v2.3.3.0.zip" from this post (pre-Lollipop users can download ViPER4Android FX from the official thread and install the APK, skip ahead to step 5)
Change to permissive mode with SELinux Mode Changer from the Play Store (required for Lollipop, maybe for KitKat too)
Enable developer options and uncheck "Use Nuplayer" (Lollipop only)
Reboot to recovery and flash the zip you downloaded; reboot back to Android
Open Viper4Android and let it download its drivers (reboot required)
Open Viper4Android and under settings switch "FX Compatible" mode to "Compatible"
FX compatibility mode caused most apps to not use V4A. Leave it on the "Normal" setting instead.
Specific apps:
For PowerAmp, enable MusicFX under Settings > Audio > Advanced Tweaks, turn on "Tone/Volume". Also, switch off the Equ, Tone and Limit under Tone/Volume
For GoneMad Music Player, select "Use External DSP" under Preferences > Audio > Equalizer
Spotify appears to just work now.
Effects:
Turning on "Speaker Optimization" makes the Shields' speakers sound less tinny
Try some IRS files to imitate/replicate various bass boost, etc effects from various manufacturers
Alternatively, try some headphone correction filters (these attempt to flatten the frequency response of your headphones, making music sound the way musicians really intended it to sound)
See also the explainations for all of the settings.
I hope this works for other people. Tell me if I've made a mistake or left something out.
Thanks! will give this a try soon, what about boosting volume? I haven't seen anything for boosting volume yet in lollipop
Folks will discover this after clicking the first link: this solution requires Root. I've heard great things about Viper, and if you have your device unlocked and rooted, give it a go.
jaredmorgs said:
Folks will discover this after clicking the first link: this solution requires Root. I've heard great things about Viper, and if you have your device unlocked and rooted, give it a go.
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Oh right, thanks for that. I keep forgetting that not everyone has root access and a custom recovery
And even though I've been reading XDA for years, I've only written a few posts.
genicles said:
Thanks! will give this a try soon, what about boosting volume? I haven't seen anything for boosting volume yet in lollipop
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Yes, there is the "Extra Loud" option, with three strength levels.
Does this method work with Spotify? I don't think you can change audio settings via the app and don't these V4A instructions only apply on an app by app basis?
I've tried this and it doesn't appear to have any effect on the sound on my shield. Followed instructions exactly but makes no difference to sound quality regardless of what player I use.
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mossief1965 said:
I've tried this and it doesn't appear to have any effect on the sound on my shield. Followed instructions exactly but makes no difference to sound quality regardless of what player I use.
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Try playing with the settings--specifically the NUplayer toggle and the settings in PowerAmp (if you're using it). In most guides for Lollipop for V4A, it says to turn off NUplayer. But for some reason, on my other device (a G3 with CM12), I need NUplayer on. I don't have to use compatible mode on it either.
It's a stretch, especially since the OP tested his steps on this device, but I don't think it'll hurt.
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Does this method work with Spotify? I don't think you can change audio settings via the app and don't these V4A instructions only apply on an app by app basis?
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I just had a try with Spotify and it seems to work with no changes required. It even opens V4A when selecting 'equalizer' in settings, so it appears to be quite aware of external DSPs.
Soundscape also has no settings for audio, but doesn't go through V4A. I don't know what to do about that, besides complaining to the company.
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... making music sound the way musicians really intended it to sound ...
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There is so much wrong with that I don't know where to start LOL (but this is not meant to be any sort of observation on the app itself).
But ya know, whatever sounds good in the end
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There is so much wrong with that I don't know where to start LOL (but this is not meant to be any sort of observation on the app itself).
But ya know, whatever sounds good in the end
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I was referring to Beat's claim that their bass-heavy headphones make your music sound the way the musicians wanted it to. Tyle from Inner Fidelity (who has tested many headphones with a pretty sophisticated setup) has said:
I would think most recording studios in the world use a curve called "flat." That way they know what they're hearing on the monitors is what's going onto the disc. The Audio Engineering Society is filled with engineers who write papers and learn about how to achieve a flat and neutral audio response, and then design and build the gear that goes into recording studios. I've measured four of the Beats full-size headphones, and a handful of their in-ear models, and they deviate significantly from flat.
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The headphone correction files I linked to attempt to flatten the response of each headphone, making them sound more like professional-grade studio monitors (speakers) or headphones.
The V4A mod sounds great, but it seems to break streaming audio to the Shield Controller.
after Ota 3.1 upgrade Viper is not working anymore
Hi y'all fellow Idol 3 users! And welcome to my guide which aims to help you make your phone sound exactly how you want it to.
Okay, so if you bought this phone, chances are you wanted a great media consumption experience, since this is the Alcatel Idol 3's strength. When I got the phone and first plugged my headphones in to test out all that JBL stuff they were advertising, I couldn't help it but feel let down. Yep. I found it sounded muddy, disorted and clicky. But since we are talking about android, I knew I could probably do something about that. Plus I KNEW the audio chip in this phone was great. So I started tweaking and I finally can say that my Idol 3 sounds like a beast.
Here are the steps, then!
1. Disable the JBL setting. First and foremost, please, pleeease... go to settings > sound and notifications and disable "JBL". Honestly, it just doesn't sound good. It introduces a LOT of disortion in exchange for a little bit of bass. They are much better ways to get bassier sound without hardly disorting it, trust me. I don't know what they were thinking... this setting just assassinates the music IMO. However you are free to do as you want, of course.
* For step 2, root is needed.
2. Install Viper4Android. The following steps will guide you through the installation of this godly piece of software. For you guys which don't know what Viper4Android is, it's one of the best sound engines (in my opinion the best) available for android. It originated in China where it became really popular. Installing Viper4Android will not alter the sound signature in any way, it will just unlock the true potential of your sound-related hardware, getting rid of bottlenecks that worsen audio quality. Just installing it WILL get you a better sound. However, it also provides lots of settings and tweaks to change the sound signature if you want to, and they work really well, unlike this JBL setting we were given. In order to install it, you can either follow my own instructions or head to the official V4A thread and follow the steps there.
2.1 Install Busybox. Download one of the many installers in the Play Store, open the app and click install. Reboot if it asks you to. You can safely delete the app afterwards.
2.2 Download the Viper4Android apk from the official site. Be sure to download ViPER4Android FX 2.3.4.0 which is the one that works with Lollipop.
2.3 Extract the zip and then pick the apk called "ViPER4Android_FX_A4.x.apk" and put it in your phone's storage, then install it.
2.4 Install the V4A driver. Open the app and it should prompt you to install the driver. Select "Audiophile quality" for the best sound quality. Even though it warns you about high cpu usage, I did not notice lags or battery drain. However if this worries you a lot you can always choose "high quality" instead, though I wouldn't recommend it. It will ask you to reboot your phone, do it.
2.5 Make it run along enforcing selinux. This mod normally wont work with enforcing selinux, so you can either change selinux to permissive mode or just flash this zip (by XDA member maximumentropy) through custom recovery, wich will make it work with enforcing selinux. I recommend the second method.
2.6 OPTIONAL STEP: In ViPER4Android's thread the instructions say you have to edit the next lines in the "build.prop" file, which is located in /system. Lines to edit:
Ipa.decode=true to lpa.decode=false
tunnel.decode=true to tunnel.decode=false
lpa.use-stagefright=true to lpa.use-stagefright=false
I found that the second line was already set to false in my device. If you are not in stock rom you might not find this lines, if that's the case just ignore this step.
This step is optional because I used ViPER4Android for a few days without doing it and everything seemed to work. So if you prefer not to mess with the build.prop you can try without doing this.
2.7 Enable ViPER4Android. Open the app and you will find there are several tabs: "Headphones", "Speaker", "Bluetooth"... just activate the first checkbox in every tab if you want ViPER4Android working globally.
2.8 Turn off conflicting settings in some music players. Most player should work fine out of the box, but in some cases there are settings that conflict with V4A.
2.8.1 Poweramp: turn off EQ, tone and limiter. Go to settings > sound engine > advanced customization, and untick the first checkbox. The other settings didn't seem to conflict for me, but you can try disabling them too if you are having trouble to make it work (I have them all disabled).
This section needs expansion! Tell me how you made your favourite music player work with V4A.
2.9 Test it out! Play some music and open V4A. Click the dropdown menu and choose "Driver status". It should say:
NEON Enabled: Yes
Enabled: Yes
Status: Normal
Audio Format: Supported
Processing: Yes
If that's what you see, then contrats! Everything is set.
3. Grab a nice sounding music player. The consensus is that the one with the best quality is "Neutron Music Player". I do agree with this, however, the UI is really crappy and I just cannot cope with that scroll. That is why I use Poweramp, which also sounds nice, and has the addition of a nice little "punch" in the lower frequencies. If you know some other great sounding players be sure to comment below and tell so I can expand the guide!
4. Get a nice pair of headphones. The included ones by JBL do pretty well for the price they are valued at ($40) but that doesn't mean there aren't better choices out there! Also they didn't seem to fit comfortably in my ears with any of the sizes inlcuded. If you want something with a similar price and an even better sound, I recomend the Sony MH1C, a pair of IEMs you can get for $30 but sound like some good $100+ IEMs. If you want traditionally shaped headphones then my recommendaiton is the KOSS PortaPro (or the KSC75 wich are essentially the same but with a different form factor). They are also dirt cheap and have a very decent sound. For more recommendations you can ask me (though I am no expert) or just head to the Head-Fi forums. You won't get better advice anywhere else when concerning headphones! These guys really know their stuff.
Lastly, I hope this guide is of use to some of you and allows you to enjoy the Alcatel Idol 3 to the fullest. I wanted to contribute to this great device's community since I felt it diserves way more attention than it is getting. And by the way, english is not my first language, so please excuse any error I might have made!
FURTHER TWEAKING:
You will see that ViPER4Andoid has a lot of settings, especially if you select the "Expert" UI setting from the dropdown menu. If you want ideas and advice on using them, head over the the official V4A thread.
Thanks!!!
I use n7player. It produce nice sound with v4a combo plus convolver set on studer +1db updated. Also tried shuttle+ but n7 has nicer interface.
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Under cm12.1 do you need to disable "audiofx" before using v4a?
Attached is a flashable zip which should add the 3 lines mentioned in post #1 to the build.prop and remove any duplicates. The zip can be used to add ANY lines to the build.prop. You just add the lines to the tweaks.txt file inside the zip. I did not create the zip. I just modified it to put the 3 lines mentioned in there.
Code:
lpa.decode=false
tunnel.decode=false
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famewolf said:
Under cm12.1 do you need to disable "audiofx" before using v4a?
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Flash the removable script from cm 12.1 thread. It's on first page. Then supersu, and then v4a.. That's how I managed to make it work.
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Nikola Jovanovic said:
Flash the removable script from cm 12.1 thread. It's on first page. Then supersu, and then v4a.. That's how I managed to make it work.
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You must mean a different "cm 12.1 thread" that unjustified dev's cause I don't see a "removable script".
Yes, I'm sorry. Here is the DL link https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934545546 and the thread is one for gapps in the first post of cm12.1 .
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Under cm12.1 do you need to disable "audiofx" before using v4a?
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Yes, you do have to disable Audio FX unless you want to try and use both with V4A in compatible mode. I wouldn't recommend it though.
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Yes, you do have to disable Audio FX unless you want to try and use both with V4A in compatible mode. I wouldn't recommend it though.
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Thanks for the guide..installed v4a tonight....seems to be working fine with spotify and bluetooth. I didn't use @Nikola Jovanovic's "cleaner" because it seemed to remove alot than just a few music apps...I used titanium backup to uninstall audiofx and I have n7player full installed (was free on amazon appstore)...haven't used it yet though.
It does, but really I don't see the reason to not apply it. Google cam is better than cm's, viper + n7 is better than apolo + audio fx.. So on, and so for..
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It does, but really I don't see the reason to not apply it. Google cam is better than cm's, viper + n7 is better than apolo + audio fx.. So on, and so for..
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It seemed to be doing something with vending.apk which is the google play store...I didn't want to chance that getting deleted. I use google calendar and it looked like it might delete it as well...will have to research when I have time and maybe modify.
It may also be the cause of apps crashing, but haven't experienced any reboots as the other users.
GPS stays on your phone, it deletes aosp cal but I installed Google calendar for that purpose.
It would be awesome if you could modify it in that way so the bloatware is cleaned but all other core apps are intacted.
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What do you think about Phonograph? Is it a valid music player, speaking of audio quality?
I just finished installing. All works fine so far. Testing some settings but think it's an improvement over "stock"sound. I really like the jetAudio music player. Been using it for a long time and think it's one of the best out there.
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Thanks!!
Thank you! Works amazing with PowerAmp and Sennheiser Momentum On-Ear. Thought that sound was amazing already but now It's 200% better!
Or if you don't want to root simply use DFX player.... ?
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Anyone still gets stuttering, even with this installed? This is problem that happens to me with every player I tried. The one that gives less stutters and skips remains jetAudio... Is it a Lollipop problem?
Can't flash selinux patch, help please?
Hello everyone, I am looking for the Soundalive for my S5. The rom that I installed only have Viper4android but I removed it. Is there a flashable file for the soundalive? so I can put it in my S5.
Note: I have a ported N5 rom in my S5.
Honestly viper is much better.
Don't know about sound alive but using non supported apps messes up things like call audio/mic
They have presets for viper which can be found for download and viper has different settings where you get easy hard and pro type features
i got into this thread because i honestly didnt know what soundalive was. Looks like its a sammy app. I am unaware because i dont use my phone for audio purposes but once in a blue moon, but from what ive read, viper is the way to go anyways. So im leaning towards immortalitys post.
believe me or not i cant live without soundalive
The apps I've tried so far simply don't do anything.
Anyone know a solution?
If you are rooted, use viper4android, best system wide equalizer.
There are some issues most people forget about or aren't aware of. First of all, there is an EQ already installed. Snapdragon Audio or something. Google hides the system EQ in music apps. I know you can get to it from the settings of Google Play Music, but suspect it's accessible in other music apps. Secondly, Android can only use 1 EQ app at a time. You have to disable the System EQ for any 3rd party ones to work. This is done by going to Settings -- Applications -- Toggle Show System Apps -- and select MusicFX. Disable it.
As for Viper4Android -- Yes, it's a great choice, but the Snapdragon EQ built into the Essential is pretty comparable (but lacking features/options). Viper4Android can't handle usb-c audio, though. On the Essential, it thinks the USB-C dongle/adapter is the Phone Speaker and thus, you have to adjust sound via the Phone Speaker tab. This means fewer options. I've checked around and it's not a problem with the Essential phone but one for several phones lacking a 3.5mm headphone jack. I am going to wait until Viper4Android is updated to support this. Sadly, this app doesn't get many updates and for a year (seemingly) it appeared to be abandoned until version 2.5.5 dropped.
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On the Essential, it thinks the USB-C dongle/adapter is the Phone Speaker and thus, you have to adjust sound via the Phone Speaker tab.
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I'm using v4a via the Magisk 14+ module from repo (latest version) and it's actually working via the Headset with the factory dongle. The phone speaker settings also work independently for tuning the on-board speaker.
I'm not exactly an audiophile, but it seems to be doing its job just fine.
I'm on NMJ32F, so maybe Oreo is a different story
Tardeaux said:
I'm using v4a via the Magisk 14+ module from repo (latest version) and it's actually working via the Headset with the factory dongle. The phone speaker settings also work independently for tuning the on-board speaker.
I'm not exactly an audiophile, but it seems to be doing its job just fine.
I'm on NMJ32F, so maybe Oreo is a different story
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That's great! They must have fixed it since I tried it. I'll check this out later. Are you using anything for init as it's required in the module description or using Lineage?
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That's great! They must have fixed it since I tried it. I'll check this out later. Are you using anything for init as it's required in the module description or using Lineage?
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No, even with init utils, I wasn't able to get anything with Audio Modification Library to work as the AML 2.2 module itself was causing Magisk to fail entirely to the point it lost root and couldn't read its own logs, so I gave up pretty quick.
I'm using ShadySquirrel's ViPER4Android FX for Magisk v14+. It didn't process at first, but this was resolved by copying /magisk/viper4android/system/etc/audio_effects.conf to /magisk/viper4android/system/etc/vendor/audio_effects.conf
I tried several hours to get v4a working, and never even had the files you mention in those locations to copy.
also, gk1984, the built in equalizer doesn't work system-wide. It works on apps that support it.
edit: Okay found those files this time. Why do we have to install a separate apk to get the interface to show AFTER installing the magisk module. I seriously don't get it, but okay so I got that file copied over and the only version that will let me download the driver is the io_test one I found somewhere around here. Will test later.
edit: Just keeps asking me to download drivers every single time I reboot. I got past this once, but I don't remember how anymore.
edit: after 3 or 4 tries it seems to have gone through.
Edit: But despite all that effort, it just says processing NO. Can't get it to go.
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There are some issues most people forget about or aren't aware of. First of all, there is an EQ already installed. Snapdragon Audio or something. Google hides the system EQ in music apps. I know you can get to it from the settings of Google Play Music, but suspect it's accessible in other music apps. Secondly, Android can only use 1 EQ app at a time. You have to disable the System EQ for any 3rd party ones to work. This is done by going to Settings -- Applications -- Toggle Show System Apps -- and select MusicFX. Disable it.
As for Viper4Android -- Yes, it's a great choice, but the Snapdragon EQ built into the Essential is pretty comparable (but lacking features/options). Viper4Android can't handle usb-c audio, though. On the Essential, it thinks the USB-C dongle/adapter is the Phone Speaker and thus, you have to adjust sound via the Phone Speaker tab. This means fewer options. I've checked around and it's not a problem with the Essential phone but one for several phones lacking a 3.5mm headphone jack. I am going to wait until Viper4Android is updated to support this. Sadly, this app doesn't get many updates and for a year (seemingly) it appeared to be abandoned until version 2.5.5 dropped.
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So if EQ is already pre-installed, then each music app can use it and EQ needs to be adjusted in each app or do these apps have their own built-in EQ?
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So if EQ is already pre-installed, then each music app can use it and EQ needs to be adjusted in each app or do these apps have their own built-in EQ?
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If the phone has it's own EQ built in, which is MusicFX or sometimes AudioFX in the system apps (other phones might have something else too), then I am fairly certain it's universal -- set it in any app and it works throughout all apps. The problem is Android treats EQs as music-only features. So some apps are not affected by it like YouTube or other video apps, likely games, and notification sounds.
With that said, some apps have their own EQ that only affects that app. I don't use these much so I can't say if one overrides the other or if the app EQ is combined with the OS EQ.
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If the phone has it's own EQ built in, which is MusicFX or sometimes AudioFX in the system apps (other phones might have something else too), then I am fairly certain it's universal -- set it in any app and it works throughout all apps. The problem is Android treats EQs as music-only features. So some apps are not affected by it like YouTube or other video apps, likely games, and notification sounds.
With that said, some apps have their own EQ that only affects that app. I don't use these much so I can't say if one overrides the other or if the app EQ is combined with the OS EQ.
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I will search for apps on the phone to see if and what apps are pre-installed for EQ. It is kind of sad if YouTube or other video/audio app won't use EQ that was set in another app. I believe EQ should be in the settings of the phone under Sounds for example.
Charkatak said:
I will search for apps on the phone to see if and what apps are pre-installed for EQ. It is kind of sad if YouTube or other video/audio app won't use EQ that was set in another app. I believe EQ should be in the settings of the phone under Sounds for example.
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I agree, it should be in the main sound settings section, not hidden. You can get to the EQ in the settings of Google Play Music. I only mentioned it being called MusicFX (which is the name for the Essential) because you have to disable it to use another EQ app.
Also, if you remove Deep Buffer (it's in the system code, not an app), then EQ effects should work across all processed audio. I've only done this with Viper4Android though. You can remove deep buffer with a Magisk Module.
I've tried the remove deep buffer, the v4a, and disabling the built in EQ (cause it didn't work either). The thing is, nothing works permanently on slacker radio. I did find some free app that works, you just have to turn it off and back on whenever there's a pause in the music that causes audio signal to BT to halt.
Tardeaux said:
No, even with init utils, I wasn't able to get anything with Audio Modification Library to work as the AML 2.2 module itself was causing Magisk to fail entirely to the point it lost root and couldn't read its own logs, so I gave up pretty quick.
I'm using ShadySquirrel's ViPER4Android FX for Magisk v14+. It didn't process at first, but this was resolved by copying /magisk/viper4android/system/etc/audio_effects.conf to /magisk/viper4android/system/etc/vendor/audio_effects.conf
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I finally tried this suggestion this morning with no success. V4A doesn't process with this module and copying the files you mentioned and rebooting for the file copy to take affect. But now that we have a pretty capable TWPR, I might just flash the ARISE sound mod. It modifies system, which goes against the point of Magisk, but maybe it'll work. I used to use it on my last phone.
Update: ARISE doesn't work either. Won't process, likely due to enforcing SELinux (I don't want to change this for security reasons) and not sure if it fixes the issue of audio effects being tied to Phone Speaker tab in Viper.
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I finally tried this suggestion this morning with no success. V4A doesn't process with this module and copying the files you mentioned and rebooting for the file copy to take affect. But now that we have a pretty capable TWPR, I might just flash the ARISE sound mod. It modifies system, which goes against the point of Magisk, but maybe it'll work. I used to use it on my last phone.
Update: ARISE doesn't work either. Won't process, likely due to enforcing SELinux (I don't want to change this for security reasons) and not sure if it fixes the issue of audio effects being tied to Phone Speaker tab in Viper.
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In regards the the C-port being read as speakers, try going into your developers options. I use a Stylo 4 no Root and I get an option called "Disable USB Audio Routing". This in theory should stop your phone from making that error.
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I finally tried this suggestion this morning with no success. V4A doesn't process with this module and copying the files you mentioned and rebooting for the file copy to take affect. But now that we have a pretty capable TWPR, I might just flash the ARISE sound mod. It modifies system, which goes against the point of Magisk, but maybe it'll work. I used to use it on my last phone.
Update: ARISE doesn't work either. Won't process, likely due to enforcing SELinux (I don't want to change this for security reasons) and not sure if it fixes the issue of audio effects being tied to Phone Speaker tab in Viper.
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Viper4Android and Arise4Android (both of which I have used before/still use) work on this phone and on Android 9. My best guess is you didn't disable MusicFX. You can check by opening an app that works with the default Android EQ such as Google Play Music, go to the settings, and then tap EQ or Equaliser. If it launches Viper4Android, you should be good to go. If it opens Snapdragon Audio+, MusicFX is not disabled.
If this test launches Viper4Android or you did disable MusicFX for sure, then Exit the Viper4Android app from the 3 dot button and open it again. I have had to do this on occasion.
Change the bools from false to true in /vendor/build.prop that involve saying anything about Dolby.
Thank you! This actually worked! @lexOehm
Fwiw, since someone recently commented on this. If you use Viper4Android the best feature you can use is the Input Response Profiles feature. There are a few out there
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2216193
The best ones are the IRS TubeAmplifier And Technics Preamplifier ones. They make your audio sound warm is the only way I can describe it.