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Is there any way to lock the power button on the TD2?
I would like to keep the device suspended, with the screen off, even when the power button is hit.
This is to avoid that the screen of the device gets accidentally switched on when I carry it in the pocket of my jeans. This happens all the time, leading to battery drain.
I have tried TouchLockPro, it locks everything except the power button.
Any way to set this up?
Any application providing this feature?
If you lock it, how do you want to wake up the device?
I wouldn't mind finding a way to do something similar. Maybe not lock the button entirely, but make it so that you have to press the power button for a long time (say 3 secs), or press the power button and the hang up button and the same time.
no offence but if you did this wouldnt it unlock when you pull out the stylus?
and also you can change that go to start => settings => system/personal => keylock (also not sure if keylock will be installed as i dont have one, but you should be able to find it on here)
Then you can change the wake up to be any of the buttons, current setup or none.
chris10230 said:
no offence but if you did this wouldnt it unlock when you pull out the stylus?
and also you can change that go to start => settings => system/personal => keylock (also not sure if keylock will be installed as i dont have one, but you should be able to find it on here)
Then you can change the wake up to be any of the buttons, current setup or none.
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No, this wont do what is needed. The Keylock simply stops someone from using the phone. It won't stop the screen from coming on accidental in you pocket.
You can 'lock' the phone from accidental use by pressing and holding the 'hang up' button, but again this has nothing to do with screen activation.
It is true that pulling out the stylus will both switch on and unlock the phone though, so disabling the power button may not be all bad. I still think it would be better to activate the screen via a single long button press, or some such.
Totally agree with swinster's comment and proposal.
- Lock the phone by pressing + holding "hang up" button (already implemented)
- Keep phone locked and screen off until
either stylus is pulled out
or power button and hang-up button are pressed at the same time
But disable screen-on when power button alone is pressed (like it is now).
- Anybody able to implement this proposal?
Meanwhile, how are you guys carring around your Topaz without the battery being emptied within a day (because of the described issue)?
This would be a great solution.
Mine switches on in my pocket all the time, they should have recessed the button, I thought about trying to remove it.
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Meanwhile, how are you guys carring around your Topaz without the battery being emptied within a day (because of the described issue)?
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Its a bit of an overkil, but my laptop come with me most places.
Reminds me of the Morecambe and Wise sketch (??) where the battery was the size of a suitcase.
I think I need a car charger - which brings me to another grumble - why didn't they implement a standard mini USB interface?
Standard mini usb fits and charges.
ALExander
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Standard mini usb fits and charges.
ALExander
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Ooh, Ok. I thought they were different shapes. Will look into this.
[Edit - I have just read that it IS backward compatible with USB - the different shape is becasue the HTC connection supplies audio]
I'm guessing that any old Car Charger with mini USB will work then?
anorak22 said:
Is there any way to lock the power button on the TD2?
I would like to keep the device suspended, with the screen off, even when the power button is hit.
This is to avoid that the screen of the device gets accidentally switched on when I carry it in the pocket of my jeans. This happens all the time, leading to battery drain.
I have tried TouchLockPro, it locks everything except the power button.
Any way to set this up?
Any application providing this feature?
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When you set EnableInputAtSuspend = 0, it will not unlock the power button at suspend. . It will then only awake via the Stylus. But I do not know if this setting also works on the Diamond2.
I am having some odd problems with mine if i press the power button to put it into standby. Sometimes when i press it it turns itself straight back on others it will come back on if i shake it (like the G Sensor is somehow linked to bringing it out of standby). Can you guys check this so i can confirm if i have a faulty unit please?
I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
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I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
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Thanks, sounds plausible, I'll call the supplier tomorrow.
I am sure that on my D810 I could set the lock on at zero seconds with no pin code. Then the keylock would come on every time I came out of standby but with no change of accidentally starting applications and making calls.
On my D2 the password is compulsory for keylock.
Any solution here? I don't want a pin code.
I power button fix would be even better to also save battery. The accidental turning on is a very annoying feature.
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I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
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ye man,ive got this prob...the phone randomly unlocks bcoz the stylus sensor...im lookin for some application that turns the sensor off....havent found anythin yet...
This is still, by far, the most anoying "feature" of the TD2 phone. I can't believe that HTC did not have the forethought to think that people might actually put the phone in their pockets.
It should be a simple fix so that when the phone is off or in standby, the power button has to be press for say a second before the phone will come on, rather than just a single tap. They can do this to turn the phone off, so why not on?
is there any way to just press on the screen to wake it up other then pressing the power button or trackball? if anyone has used an iphone i am looking for simply touch the screen to wake it up and sliding to unlock skipping trackball or power button presses. thanks.
It's possible to wake up the iPhone by touching the screen? Only for jailbroken phones? That's something I've never heard of before.
I don't think that is possible right now, Android would power down the touch sensor to save battery. Just like a stock iPhone does too.
I am interested to know how to do that on the iPhone though, I'd love to do that with my iPod Touch.
ohh thats right i forgot the iphone has to press the home button to wake it up after a long sleep. my iphone is setup to wait the longest time before going into a sleep so if i am waiting for something the backlight turns off and locks the phone but a press on the screen turns on the backlight waits to be unlocked. oh well would be cool to have on n1 though. thanks for the reply.
The program "nolock" in the market makes it so you can use either the trackball or volume buttons to wake the phone. Other than that, I think screen wake would kill your battery. Can't say for sure though.
worth trying this app thanks
Yeah, being an OLED screen, you can't just turn off the backlight. Each pixel is a light all by itself. Otherwise you could probably do the same trick.
No lock or keyguard disabler bypass or disable the lock screen. Root and running a custom rom like CM will let you double click the trackball to unlock the and wake the phone. There is also a menu unlock too.
I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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Menu wake doesn't do what I believe you may think it does, you still have to press the power button to turn the phone on. Then you press menu to skip the lockscreen.. which in my opinion is not needed. I only said this because you said no hard key will be worn out.. but they still will.
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I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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what are you using for that?
Funny that because I just went to go hunt that one down and found that you are indeed correct, it only acts as an alternative to slide to unlock, it does not wake up the phone. Sigh.
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what are you using for that?
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Ya ninja'ed me. I use a free market program called No Lock. Pretty much as its name implies it removes the requirement to slide to unlock, can be toggled. One touch of whatever you are using to wake it up and you are off to the races. A must have for types like me that dont use a lock and would prefer to wake and go. The app does have one niggle. It remembers my setting but at every restart and have to toggle it to get it to work.
sounds like i must dl it and worth pressing 1 button to wake up without sliding to unlock.
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Ya ninja'ed me. I use a free market program called No Lock. Pretty much as its name implies it removes the requirement to slide to unlock, can be toggled. One touch of whatever you are using to wake it up and you are off to the races. A must have for types like me that dont use a lock and would prefer to wake and go. The app does have one niggle. It remembers my setting but at every restart and have to toggle it to get it to work.
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i see one called mylock that says it automatically starts again after device restart. worth a try.
If she turns up to be a winner pop let us know.
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If she turns up to be a winner pop let us know.
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yes i must say it works well. i didnt even try the no luck. it also has more reviews fyi. im keeping it. it also has an addon for something idle. im guessing that idle addon disabled the mylock to enter your security after an x amount of sleep time has passed. sounds ok if u want security enabled i guess but most pay a few cents for it. not for me at this point.
I cannot stand the fingerprint sensor/power/lock button. Just because, it's ridiculously placed. If it were on either side - fine, that's good, I don't have to hold my phone like a tennis ball.
The placement isn't the main reason I hate the thing, though.. I have two more reasons - reasons which may be resolvable (input appreciated in that department )
1. When you try to unlock the phone, the backlight comes on, but no display.. Have to lock and unlock again. Also happens when ending calls sometimes. - multiple ROMs.
2. ABSOLUTE WORST THING IN THE WORLD - makes me want to inject battery acid in to my eyeballs - fingerprint sensor navigation (as seen in cm7/cm9) - WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY DOES THIS EXIST? Not only will it be randomly navigating the screen whenever a finger goes near it, but every time you want to lock the screen - you first have to see an ugly yellow selection indicator fly across the screen.
The good thing about fingerprint sensor navigation is that you can disable it. The bad thing about fingerprint sensor navigation is that its settings in jokersax11's CM9 are seemingly unavailable.
"com.authentec.Truesuitemobile has stopped working."
I guess this is just me ranting. It is rather annoying, because the CM9 mod in question is rather cool, and I'd love to use it, but I can't ignore that annoying fingerprint sensor navigation.
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I cannot stand the fingerprint sensor/power/lock button. Just because, it's ridiculously placed. If it were on either side - fine, that's good, I don't have to hold my phone like a tennis ball.
The placement isn't the main reason I hate the thing, though.. I have two more reasons - reasons which may be resolvable (input appreciated in that department )
1. When you try to unlock the phone, the backlight comes on, but no display.. Have to lock and unlock again. Also happens when ending calls sometimes. - multiple ROMs.
2. ABSOLUTE WORST THING IN THE WORLD - makes me want to inject battery acid in to my eyeballs - fingerprint sensor navigation (as seen in cm7/cm9) - WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY DOES THIS EXIST? Not only will it be randomly navigating the screen whenever a finger goes near it, but every time you want to lock the screen - you first have to see an ugly yellow selection indicator fly across the screen.
The good thing about fingerprint sensor navigation is that you can disable it. The bad thing about fingerprint sensor navigation is that its settings in jokersax11's CM9 are seemingly unavailable.
"com.authentec.Truesuitemobile has stopped working."
I guess this is just me ranting. It is rather annoying, because the CM9 mod in question is rather cool, and I'd love to use it, but I can't ignore that annoying fingerprint sensor navigation.
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I think there are mods around that can make you use the volume button as unlock button, also you can try other lockscreen app that can simulate this also.
1. I have no issue with this. Have tried many ROMs.
2. I think disabling the navigation should not make any problem, somethings must be wrong with your setup. But I have only used CM7, haven't try CM9 yet so not sure if CM9 behave differently with this disabling fingerprint navigation.
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I think there are mods around that can make you use the volume button as unlock button, also you can try other lockscreen app that can simulate this also.
1. I have no issue with this. Have tried many ROMs.
2. I think disabling the navigation should not make any problem, somethings must be wrong with your setup. But I have only used CM7, haven't try CM9 yet so not sure if CM9 behave differently with this disabling fingerprint navigation.
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The problem with using the volume keys to unlock is that I use my phone as an mp3 player, and actually use the volume controls while the phone is locked in my pocket - though I have tried it, and I don't have the issue with the screen not waking properly when I do. ;x
Here's a thought
If u don't like it that much get an Atrix 2. Not trying to be a **** but it's a thought.
The rest of the phone is great, though.
& the Atrix 4G seems to outperform the Atrix 2, so I don't think that'd be the phone I'd consider, if I were to make a change. ;o
I have no problem with the placement of the fingerprintreader/unlockbutton and i have absolutly normal hands.
But the problem with the fingerprintnavigation can be solved easily.
Just go to setting-device settings- fingerprint sensor navigation and change "NAV Enable" to disable.
And after a restart your problem is solved.
But in the moment this is only possible with CM 7 , in CM 9 you can't disable it in the moment.
I'm pretty sure you can set the volume buttons to adjust the volume and have it as the "wake" key. What would happen is you would have to press the volume button once and then you can adjust the volume while it's still on the "lockscreen". Then after you get to the volume you want the lockscreen will shut off after about 3 seconds. You would still have to "slide to unlock" to completely "wake" the phone up.
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The problem with using the volume keys to unlock is that I use my phone as an mp3 player, and actually use the volume controls while the phone is locked in my pocket - though I have tried it, and I don't have the issue with the screen not waking properly when I do. ;x
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Yeah, that's what's bothering me, haha.
CM9 is looking fantastic, had a play around with it last night, but that fingerprint sensor nav is an absolute deal breaker.
Have you never attempted to look at your phone whilst laying down, gone to unlock it, and have it drop on your face? I really find the button placement awkward. Maybe that's just me. Haha.
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I'm pretty sure you can set the volume buttons to adjust the volume and have it as the "wake" key. What would happen is you would have to press the volume button once and then you can adjust the volume while it's still on the "lockscreen". Then after you get to the volume you want the lockscreen will shut off after about 3 seconds. You would still have to "slide to unlock" to completely "wake" the phone up.
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Ah, I also forgot to mention that I use the volume keys for track skipping (hold) - I thought I read somewhere that enabling volume key unlock would disable the track skipping function.
I just noticed you mention using CM9 so my experience is off of CM7 but I think the "volume unlock" and "track skipping" can be enabled at the same time, which is why it requires a "hold". But, again, it could be a different story on CM9 (as of now anyways, while it's in alpha).
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Ah, I also forgot to mention that I use the volume keys for track skipping (hold) - I thought I read somewhere that enabling volume key unlock would disable the track skipping function.
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I like the finger-print sensor and placement of the button....
What do you like about the fingerprint sensor?
I see it as being a little bit pointless on a *TOUCHSCREEN* phone..
Obviously, these are just my opinions, and everybody has their own.
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What do you like about the fingerprint sensor?
I see it as being a little bit pointless on a *TOUCHSCREEN* phone..
Obviously, these are just my opinions, and everybody has their own.
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I always looked at it as a thing to show your friends. But then the excitement goes away pretty fast after that. Sorta a dumb bell/whistle
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Just want to clarify - I'm not talking about the fingerprint unlock function - that's pretty cool.
Regardless, the sensor nav. should definitely be an optional extra (flashable .zip).
Whoever decided it needed to be included in every single CM release needs to go back in time and decide differently, lol.
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Just want to clarify - I'm not talking about the fingerprint unlock function - that's pretty cool.
Regardless, the sensor nav. should definitely be an optional extra (flashable .zip).
Whoever decided it needed to be included in every single CM release needs to go back in time and decide differently, lol.
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Oh I agree. The way I hold my phone causes alot of accidental navigation.
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you can turn the fingerprint nav off though...
IUH1991 said:
you can turn the fingerprint nav off though...
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Not currently possible in CM9.
Also, it shouldn't be something you have to turn off. As I said before, I think it makes much more sense for it to be a flashable extra.
Weird. I disabled that navigation in CM9. Try entering the menu in landscape. If it force closes, keep trying!
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Weird. I disabled that navigation in CM9. Try entering the menu in landscape. If it force closes, keep trying!
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What CM9 release are you running? I've tried the latest from jokersax & turl, and I can't get it off in either lol
I am still on cm7 but on cm9 does the fingerprint sensor not work?
Is there a way to wake up and unlock the phone with a fingerprint scan? Aka without waking up the phone prior to scan to unlock...let's say all in one ?
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Do not get the question, I press the home button and it unlocks it pretty much instantly with my fingerprint!
Do you mean without actually pressing the Home Button, well that would mean that the finger print sensor would have to be constantly scanning, think your battery would die pretty quickly
Yes i believe. "Without pressing the home button" is a feature in many phones like Xiaomi. It's a good feature but I think that with this button design it will be a problem. Fingerprint will always looking for a match even when it's being held in your hand.
Yes, without pressing the button should be an option. The button is already capacitive. So, this can be achieved just like the edge screens are sensitive too.
But then the phone is always looking for input, whether scanning for a finger print or looking for capacitive touch on the button. May be ok if the phone is in hand but for me that sort of defeats the purpose as this would be a better feature to unlock if the phone was on the desk.
I am by no means knocking the feature request or OP but personally cannot see much benefit from simply just pressing the button even if it only saves a few % of battery for me...
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Do not get the question, I press the home button and it unlocks it pretty much instantly with my fingerprint!
Do you mean without actually pressing the Home Button, well that would mean that the finger print sensor would have to be constantly scanning, think your battery would die pretty quickly
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I think the way that other phones work is that they scan for input only when the sensor is touched. So the iphone for example has a capacitive sensor on the finger print reader and knows when to start matching for fingerprints. This means that the phone isn't constantly scanning and doesn't use any more battery than the existing solution.
IMO Samsung probably should have implemented this feature.
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I think the way that other phones work is that they scan for input only when the sensor is touched. So the iphone for example has a capacitive sensor on the finger print reader and knows when to start matching for fingerprints. This means that the phone isn't constantly scanning and doesn't use any more battery than the existing solution.
IMO Samsung probably should have implemented this feature.
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Well on my iPhone 6s and all the previous ones I have had, I still have to press the home button for it to scan the finger if the screen is off, I cannot simply touch it to unlock. Once the phone is on then yes, the button is sensitive to touch, for example double touch to shrink the screen etc... Either way the phone has to constantly monitor for capacitive input even when it is off right, there must be some battery sacrifice for that. Of course it will use more battery than the existing solution as it will constantly be looking for capacitive touch input
Adding to this though, I would like the capacitive side of the home button to be available when the screen is on...
Probably not precisely what you're looking for, but search in settings for "Easy screen turn on" - under Personal -> Accessibilty -> "Dexterity and Interaction" on my device.
Enabling this will allow you to wake up the screen based upon a gesture, and then you can use fingerprint to unlock without actually pressing any hard buttons.
Ok thnx a lot guys
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This is some lazy stuff man. Trying to avoid a having to press a button that you're already touching? To save what, a couple milliseconds?
munnarg said:
This is some lazy stuff man. Trying to avoid a having to press a button that you're already touching? To save what, a couple milliseconds?
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I think the purpose is to preserve the life of the button itself because the home ans power buttons are the 2 that fails most often over the life of the device. Of course you wouldn't need to worry if you're someone who swaps phones often but some people use their devices for many years and would like to avoid issues with it if possible.
Exactly!
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I think the purpose is to preserve the life of the button itself because the home ans power buttons are the 2 that fails most often over the life of the device. Of course you wouldn't need to worry if you're someone who swaps phones often but some people use their devices for many years and would like to avoid issues with it if possible.
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I did adore this on my iPhone 5s, I am not sure if I would want it on a Edge right now, I am kind of looking for the place to hold the phone anyway, so another capacitive place would not help
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I think the purpose is to preserve the life of the button itself because the home ans power buttons are the 2 that fails most often over the life of the device. Of course you wouldn't need to worry if you're someone who swaps phones often but some people use their devices for many years and would like to avoid issues with it if possible.
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I recently had to break out an old GS3 phone to use when my primary one died. It was used for more than two years and the home button still works fine. Wearing out the home button isn't a concern of mine.
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I think the purpose is to preserve the life of the button itself because the home ans power buttons are the 2 that fails most often over the life of the device. Of course you wouldn't need to worry if you're someone who swaps phones often but some people use their devices for many years and would like to avoid issues with it if possible.
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To be honest samsung home button very seldom spoil. You don't hear cases of it. From my own experience my s2 lasted over 3 years the phone itself died even though the home button was still perfect. My note 3 is 2.5 yrs now. Home button still perform like day 1. I am pretty sure samsung home button will outlast the phone life.
not available on either my old iphone or my new samsung
yeh i find the fact that you cant just use your fingerprint for unlocking really ****ty. maybe someone'll do an app.
oli_28 said:
I did adore this on my iPhone 5s, I am not sure if I would want it on a Edge right now, I am kind of looking for the place to hold the phone anyway, so another capacitive place would not help
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How did you get this work on the iPhone? Is it a setting as I have always had to press the button to turn on the screen before it recognises the fingerprint.
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How did you get this work on the iPhone? Is it a setting as I have always had to press the button to turn on the screen before it recognises the fingerprint.
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OT: Jailbreak + 'VirtualHome', its actually a fully capacitive home button, I liked it very much..
oli_28 said:
OT: Jailbreak + 'VirtualHome', its actually a fully capacitive home button, I liked it very much..
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Right, so not delivered functionality!
Did some digging as well and apparently it is not a capacitive button as it does not have capacitive points on it, it simply gives the impression of being similar to capacitive due to the circuit between it and the outer ring. If it was capacitive we would have seen swipe gestures added to it under Jailbreak tweaks...
No app yet for unlock the phone without press home button?
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No app yet for unlock the phone without press home button?
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Go to Settings / Accessibility / Dexterity and interaction / Easy screen turn on.
But I find it easier to press the home button and then leave my finger on it to unlock, rather than having to do two separate actions (wave then fingerprint).
When I go to unlock the phone with fingerprint i need to physically press down, I thought it may be ROM issue but I went back to stock and still a problem, has anyone else had this happen, it works so it's not dead.
I think the press down to turn on screen method is standard. I've always had to do press the fingerprint/home button to turn on the screen, and the fingerprint recognition/unlock happens simultaneously.
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When I go to unlock the phone with fingerprint i need to physically press down, I thought it may be ROM issue but I went back to stock and still a problem, has anyone else had this happen, it works so it's not dead.
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this is standard as long as the screen is tuned off. If screen is on the fingerprint is read without the button being depressed
Yes, the FPS only works when the screen is on. Normal. Cuts down on battery drain by not keeping the FPS live all the time.