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** This is just my personal thoughts and musing on my experience with my first Android phone. I doubt it's very interesting but I thought I'd share anyway and welcome others to comment and share their experiences. If you're not interested just don't read it, please don't pick holes and post snarky comments. **
Boring introduction
I've had an iPhone since the 3G went on sale and upgraded over the years to the 4 and then the 5. Apple always made beautiful hardware and software with flawless usability but at 3 years old my iPhone 5 was looking like a poor relation compared to the latest flagships and the recently launched, palm filling iPhone 6.
I had gone SIM ONLY after my iPhone 5 contract had finished and I was paying around half the amount for pretty much unlimited everything. I certainly didn't want to start another contract with hefty bills each month but there was no way I was going to shell out over £600 for a new one.
I was also getting frustrated with the limitations of the iPhone devices. Everything works perfectly but why do I need a Stocks app if I don't have any stocks? Why do I need an Apple Watch app, the new U2 album or be restricted to using iTunes for my music? (Other music apps are available but don't integrate as well into the functions of the os)
So about 12 months ago I picked up an Android magazine during a long wait in Gatwick Airport and thought I'd see what the other side was offering. I've been an amateur Linux hacker/enthusiast for a number of years so I knew from experience that the trade off in flexibility from a largely open source platform was potentially a more buggy, ugly and inconsistent user experience.
The magazine featured a review of the ZTE Blade S6. It looked just like a very cheap iPhone 6 knockoff (I now have one at work, it's cheap but it does the job) but my mind started mulling over the specs and I began to put a wishlist together in my head. Good camera, expandable storage (a massive drawback on Apple devices), large screen (so I could do away with my crappy tablet), long battery life and good looking (I didn't want a super glossy, plasticy, Samsung Galaxy or iPhone clone).
My investigations lead me to news of the LG G4 launch and a beta testing programme. The phone looked amazing, it was leather for a start, how crazy. I applied for the trial but didn't get selected. The G4 was going to set me back £500 unlocked so after reading the reviews of the G3 and finding it online for just over £200, I bought my first Android phone.
First thoughts
The package arrived and as I opened it I saw a gold and brown box (the kind of colours you expect to see on the wallpaper in an Indian restaurant). I panicked - I had ordered the white phone, I didn't want gold. Metallic plastic looks nasty (no offence if you have the gold one). Luckily it was white inside.
The pearlescent white was OK, not amazing, in fact kind of cheap looking and the logo strip on the front looked like the design had been lifted off of a 90s microwave but overall it was pleasant to hold, slim and if you didn't look too closely it looked quite sleek and modern.
I charged it up (the accessories were actually more stylish than the phone. They should promote the team who made the charger) and booted it.
WTF!!! The icons! Who thought that square icons in grubby shades of the dullest colours was remotely a good idea? The oversized status and soft key bar icons looked uncomfortable and Smart Bulletin was about as much use as a pocket on a sock.
Customisation
I lived with it for a few weeks. The weather effects were fun, I was getting used to the blinking LED and having a file manager was a whole new freedom that meant I could actually work on my phone. I installed an icon pack but still couldn't make peace with that clunky and aesthetically unpleasing UI. Time to root and sign up to XDA.
The first ROM I tried was Resurrection Remix. It had been recommended to me and it was amazing. Customisation that I dreamed of. But for some reason the phone would randomly shutdown in the middle of the night and could only be turned back on by removing the battery. I couldn't risk it. I use my phone as an alarm so I needed it to be reliable.
I discovered Cloudy and combined with XPosed I was able to get a UI that was a compromise between LG and what I wanted, although apps such as the dialer, calculator and the settings interface still bugged me.
I know they are only small things and shouldn't really bother me but your phone becomes an extension of yourself. In fact I interact more with my phone on a daily basis than I do with a lot of people, so it needs to be an enjoyable experience.
When MM was released I went back to stock and thought I could just live with the ugliness. Cloudy had shut up shop, Fulmics wasn't there just yet and I wanted MM! It was a massive trade off. For full camera functions and stability, I sacrificed my hard work fine tuning my ROM, but I got impatient fast. In fact Marshmallow has been announced months ago and no sooner had 6.0 been given to us like a late Christmas present, 6.0.1 was out for other devices.
CyanogenMod 13.0
Then I discovered the tread about CM13. I knew about CM already and knew it was the base for many of the custom ROMs I'd tried in the past but I thought installing this would give me an almost pure Android experience with regular updates and I can live without slo-mo video or the other LG features.
Initially there were bugs that meant my first attempt was short-lived and I ended up going back to stock within a few hours. I have a Xiaomi Mi Band and CM couldn't recognise BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) devices.
Soon the bug was fixed and CM13 was reinstalled. In general my CM experience has been pretty good although it's evident the software wasn't intended for your device. It's not a perfect fit with fewer features in the camera and some niggly bugs (it's only in beta).
The ROOT of all evil
Tiring of my epic quest for the perfect ROM and settling with CM13 was a short lived moment of harmony. I had come to terms with my banking app not working and even the camera but then the rumour leaks - UK to get Android Pay by the end of March.
It's nearly the end of March and no sign yet but it got me thinking about the future of mobile technology and more importantly what I want from a device (it's rarely used as a phone).
It's obvious they are worming their way into more and more areas of our lives and will continue to do so. Android Pay doesn't currently work with CM or rooted devices and it's a cat and mouse game to cloak, hide and workaround these barriers. What I need is a device that fits my wish list and I can run without root.
Hello Moto
So last night I decided to take the plunge and treat myself to a new device. A purer Android experience with a snazzy look, regular updates and a low price tag. My Moto X Style should arrive tomorrow and I'm hoping our relationship will not be as turbulent as it was with the G3.
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"The course of true love never did run smooth". Android isn't an OS for everyone and im glad you took the plunge into the android world after so many years with an iPhone. Hope you enjoy your Moto X and also hope your time with that phone would last for a long time.
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Shifters123 said:
"The course of true love never did run smooth". Android isn't an OS for everyone and im glad you took the plunge into the android world after so many years with an iPhone. Hope you enjoy your Moto X and also hope your time with that phone would last for a long time.
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Thanks. I do love Android. I love the freedom.
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Thanks for your honest opinions , give lightning launcher a try with minimal work it can give you a totally different looking type of interface
markthomson1404 said:
Thanks for your honest opinions , give lightning launcher a try with minimal work it can give you a totally different looking type of interface
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Thanks. I'm on Google Launcher at the moment. I really like Microsoft Arrow launcher in a way but it needs more customisation options.
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Hi, although I don't hate my phone, I'm totally agree with you.
The shutdown issue... terrible thing of CM12.1 (and of stock firmware too, but less frequently).
Then you criticized the limitations of LG system, like any other. Sadly many trademarks choose to promote banal and heavy customatizations which make phone like a "closed box"... like iPhone & Family!
Personally, when I want to buy or suggest a phone, I look only for hardware specifications.
The stock firmware will be replaced asap.
I really would appreciate a Nexus with both external SD and removable battery support: the stock Android experience and an easier modding experience, without too many bootloader complications.
It's the same with me, but I'm stuck with a contract.. Have fun with your Moto!
Simone98RC said:
Hi, although I don't hate my phone, I'm totally agree with you.
The shutdown issue... terrible thing of CM12.1 (and of stock firmware too, but less frequently).
Then you criticized the limitations of LG system, like any other. Sadly many trademarks choose to promote banal and heavy customatizations which make phone like a "closed box"... like iPhone & Family!
Personally, when I want to buy or suggest a phone, I look only for hardware specifications.
The stock firmware will be replaced asap.
I really would appreciate a Nexus with both external SD and removable battery support: the stock Android experience and an easier modding experience, without too many bootloader complications.
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I was in the hardware is important camp and just wipe the software but with Android Pay launching and requiring you to be unrooted, I need the software to be as perfect as possible stock.
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RapHaeL_4_4_4_ said:
It's the same with me, but I'm stuck with a contract.. Have fun with your Moto!
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Thanks. Amazon should hopefully deliver it in a few hours so I'll report back later
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that's sad. did you try the official marshmallow stock rom?? for me its the most perfect and smoothest rom ever used in my G3. btw moto is awesome too. good luck!
superawesomeme said:
** This is just my personal thoughts and musing on my experience with my first Android phone. I doubt it's very interesting but I thought I'd share anyway and welcome others to comment and share their experiences. If you're not interested just don't read it, please don't pick holes and post snarky comments. **
Boring introduction
I've had an iPhone since the 3G went on sale and upgraded over the years to the 4 and then the 5. Apple always made beautiful hardware and software with flawless usability but at 3 years old my iPhone 5 was looking like a poor relation compared to the latest flagships and the recently launched, palm filling iPhone 6.
I had gone SIM ONLY after my iPhone 5 contract had finished and I was paying around half the amount for pretty much unlimited everything. I certainly didn't want to start another contract with hefty bills each month but there was no way I was going to shell out over £600 for a new one.
I was also getting frustrated with the limitations of the iPhone devices. Everything works perfectly but why do I need a Stocks app if I don't have any stocks? Why do I need an Apple Watch app, the new U2 album or be restricted to using iTunes for my music? (Other music apps are available but don't integrate as well into the functions of the os)
So about 12 months ago I picked up an Android magazine during a long wait in Gatwick Airport and thought I'd see what the other side was offering. I've been an amateur Linux hacker/enthusiast for a number of years so I knew from experience that the trade off in flexibility from a largely open source platform was potentially a more buggy, ugly and inconsistent user experience.
The magazine featured a review of the ZTE Blade S6. It looked just like a very cheap iPhone 6 knockoff (I now have one at work, it's cheap but it does the job) but my mind started mulling over the specs and I began to put a wishlist together in my head. Good camera, expandable storage (a massive drawback on Apple devices), large screen (so I could do away with my crappy tablet), long battery life and good looking (I didn't want a super glossy, plasticy, Samsung Galaxy or iPhone clone).
My investigations lead me to news of the LG G4 launch and a beta testing programme. The phone looked amazing, it was leather for a start, how crazy. I applied for the trial but didn't get selected. The G4 was going to set me back £500 unlocked so after reading the reviews of the G3 and finding it online for just over £200, I bought my first Android phone.
First thoughts
The package arrived and as I opened it I saw a gold and brown box (the kind of colours you expect to see on the wallpaper in an Indian restaurant). I panicked - I had ordered the white phone, I didn't want gold. Metallic plastic looks nasty (no offence if you have the gold one). Luckily it was white inside.
The pearlescent white was OK, not amazing, in fact kind of cheap looking and the logo strip on the front looked like the design had been lifted off of a 90s microwave but overall it was pleasant to hold, slim and if you didn't look too closely it looked quite sleek and modern.
I charged it up (the accessories were actually more stylish than the phone. They should promote the team who made the charger) and booted it.
WTF!!! The icons! Who thought that square icons in grubby shades of the dullest colours was remotely a good idea? The oversized status and soft key bar icons looked uncomfortable and Smart Bulletin was about as much use as a pocket on a sock.
Customisation
I lived with it for a few weeks. The weather effects were fun, I was getting used to the blinking LED and having a file manager was a whole new freedom that meant I could actually work on my phone. I installed an icon pack but still couldn't make peace with that clunky and aesthetically unpleasing UI. Time to root and sign up to XDA.
The first ROM I tried was Resurrection Remix. It had been recommended to me and it was amazing. Customisation that I dreamed of. But for some reason the phone would randomly shutdown in the middle of the night and could only be turned back on by removing the battery. I couldn't risk it. I use my phone as an alarm so I needed it to be reliable.
I discovered Cloudy and combined with XPosed I was able to get a UI that was a compromise between LG and what I wanted, although apps such as the dialer, calculator and the settings interface still bugged me.
I know they are only small things and shouldn't really bother me but your phone becomes an extension of yourself. In fact I interact more with my phone on a daily basis than I do with a lot of people, so it needs to be an enjoyable experience.
When MM was released I went back to stock and thought I could just live with the ugliness. Cloudy had shut up shop, Fulmics wasn't there just yet and I wanted MM! It was a massive trade off. For full camera functions and stability, I sacrificed my hard work fine tuning my ROM, but I got impatient fast. In fact Marshmallow has been announced months ago and no sooner had 6.0 been given to us like a late Christmas present, 6.0.1 was out for other devices.
CyanogenMod 13.0
Then I discovered the tread about CM13. I knew about CM already and knew it was the base for many of the custom ROMs I'd tried in the past but I thought installing this would give me an almost pure Android experience with regular updates and I can live without slo-mo video or the other LG features.
Initially there were bugs that meant my first attempt was short-lived and I ended up going back to stock within a few hours. I have a Xiaomi Mi Band and CM couldn't recognise BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) devices.
Soon the bug was fixed and CM13 was reinstalled. In general my CM experience has been pretty good although it's evident the software wasn't intended for your device. It's not a perfect fit with fewer features in the camera and some niggly bugs (it's only in beta).
The ROOT of all evil
Tiring of my epic quest for the perfect ROM and settling with CM13 was a short lived moment of harmony. I had come to terms with my banking app not working and even the camera but then the rumour leaks - UK to get Android Pay by the end of March.
It's nearly the end of March and no sign yet but it got me thinking about the future of mobile technology and more importantly what I want from a device (it's rarely used as a phone).
It's obvious they are worming their way into more and more areas of our lives and will continue to do so. Android Pay doesn't currently work with CM or rooted devices and it's a cat and mouse game to cloak, hide and workaround these barriers. What I need is a device that fits my wish list and I can run without root.
Hello Moto
So last night I decided to take the plunge and treat myself to a new device. A purer Android experience with a snazzy look, regular updates and a low price tag. My Moto X Style should arrive tomorrow and I'm hoping our relationship will not be as turbulent as it was with the G3.
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that totally sucks! I want iPhone users to see what's so great with Androids. I would actually recommend the G3 to any iPhone user trying to switch to Android. It blows you didn't have a good experience as I love the phone so much I won't upgrade because this phone is a beast. With fulmics 4.2 MM, xposed and G3 tweaksbox your phone would have been a better experience. I myself want to try an iPhone but I just can't let this phone go lol. Well I hope this bad experience didn't want to make you go back as the new G5 might change your mind :fingers-crossed:
GTRanushka said:
that's sad. did you try the official marshmallow stock rom?? for me its the most perfect and smoothest rom ever used in my G3. btw moto is awesome too. good luck!
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I tried official Marshmallow for a few weeks, the battery life was incredible and it was so smooth. I think that's what I find so frustrating, LG make some amazing tech, the specs are top notch and they don't age/slowdown as fast as others but there are so many proprietary modifications to the OS that it's put me off LG.
It's obviously just a personal preference but I just find their design aesthetic unpleasing, like a hybrid of Kit Kat (the dull colours and oversized status/nav icons) and Lollipop (material design, but poorly executed in this case).
The heavy skinning was the reason I avoided Samsung too. Again incredible hardware. These companies seem to take the same half-assed approach to UI design as Microsoft. A jumble of different styles, moving forwards with good ideas but poorly executed with remnants of the past hanging about.
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RapHaeL_4_4_4_ said:
It's the same with me, but I'm stuck with a contract.. Have fun with your Moto!
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Omg it's amazing. I few things I miss from the LG...
- Power button position (I'll get used to it)
- Double tap to wake
- Wireless charging
Other than that it's practically perfect (so far)...
- The display is incredible. I'm on about 15-20% brightness and it's so vivid and clear. I had to have the LG between 50-60%.
- Snapchat video filters work, inc slow-mo, fast, reverse (these didn't work on LG)
- Moto display for alerts, you just wave your hand over the front for a power friendly notification screen.
- Pure Android experience so no ugly status bar.
- Super fast burst mode on camera (plus improved low light mode)
- Front flash
- Beautiful shape and rear texture
- Gestures such as double twist for camera mode, karate chop for flashlight, etc
This is the droid I was looking for!
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Nokia 8, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Nokia 8 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Got the phone yesterday and what can I say, it's an amazing phone.
Great to hold, the screen is world class, the camera's are fast and produce quality photo's even in low light.
The speed is amazing.
As for updates, it's had one already.
Highly recommended.
I've had the update just show up now - im installing it as we speak.
What are you comparing it to?
Great phone, but no native gallery or music apps? Ok, it is a pure android but still...
thETImo said:
Great phone, but no native gallery or music apps? Ok, it is a pure android but still...
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Google Photos and Google Play Music.. Photos wants to upload everything to cloud, you can say no or just upload it if you are ok with cloud. Haven't checked if you get unlimited Google Photos space with this like you get with Nexus. Google Play Music will automatically add stuff you put into Music folder in the phone. Tested with few .flac files and they automatically appeared in Play Music.
Nokia 8
Pros :
Build quality
Display.. The best in price segment
Processor and and no lag at all
Pricing
Brand image
Doesn't get heated even after heavy usage
Cons:
Camera app
May be design is not 2017 model
One thing worried me from the reviews and that was the accuracy and speed of the fingerprint sensor which was supposed to be poor. Coming from an HTC 10 with an excellent sensor I was concerned. I've been glad to find the review opinions is absolute hogwash. The Nokia sensor is every bit as accurate and fast as you'd expect it to be in a flagship.
Really want to get the Nokia 8, can someone coming from the Galaxy S6 tell me two things
1. How does the camera compare to the S6
2. In the Galaxy s6 there is a private mode where some notes and pictures are hidden from view. Is there a similar facility in the Nokia 8, not interested in a different app for this.
mitchst2 said:
One thing worried me from the reviews and that was the accuracy and speed of the fingerprint sensor which was supposed to be poor. Coming from an HTC 10 with an excellent sensor I was concerned. I've been glad to find the review opinions is absolute hogwash. The Nokia sensor is every bit as accurate and fast as you'd expect it to be in a flagship.
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I have both HTC10 and N8 and fingerprint sensor on HTC is a bit faster and snapier.
As for my personal opinion about N8:
Superb build quality and overall specs. Camera is a bit dated but we will see what will upcoming updates bring. Pure android experience after coming from device like HTC M7, 10 is really meeeh. Lack of configuration, stock apps are just really simple. No weather app preinstalled. Google calendar is a complete **** as far as UI goes comparing to aftermarket solutions. Stock google dialer and contacts are also unimpressive.
Stock N8 launcher is also meh so I bought Nova couple of minutes after playing with the phone.
Hidden option to show percentage batter is a joke, you need to have magnifying glass to see the values *inside* the battery icon, lol.
So far the biggest drawback is lack of screen color calibration and night mode. This should be included in any moder phone. N8 screen should be a little warmer.
Overall I am really happy with this phone and my family member is happy even more. She can get used to all things that I consider drawbacks. If it would not be for a lack of out of the box config options I would actualy rate N8 higher that my beloved HTC10 which I consider one of the best devices ever made for my personal preferences like build quality, finger sensor on the front and hardware buttons below the screen.
cavist said:
I have both HTC10 and N8 and fingerprint sensor on HTC is a bit faster and snapier.
As for my personal opinion about N8:
Superb build quality and overall specs. Camera is a bit dated but we will see what will upcoming updates bring. Pure android experience after coming from device like HTC M7, 10 is really meeeh. Lack of configuration, stock apps are just really simple. No weather app preinstalled. Google calendar is a complete **** as far as UI goes comparing to aftermarket solutions. Stock google dialer and contacts are also unimpressive.
Stock N8 launcher is also meh so I bought Nova couple of minutes after playing with the phone.
Hidden option to show percentage batter is a joke, you need to have magnifying glass to see the values *inside* the battery icon, lol.
So far the biggest drawback is lack of screen color calibration and night mode. This should be included in any moder phone. N8 screen should be a little warmer.
Overall I am really happy with this phone and my family member is happy even more. She can get used to all things that I consider drawbacks. If it would not be for a lack of out of the box config options I would actualy rate N8 higher that my beloved HTC10 which I consider one of the best devices ever made for my personal preferences like build quality, finger sensor on the front and hardware buttons below the screen.
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I'm the opposite I prefer the pure experience. On both HTC one and 10 I ran stockish custom ROMs to keep os up to date because let's face HTC didn't. That's my hope for Nokia that maybe just maybe I won't need to do that.
I never bothered with updating every month since I was and still am running custom roms on my HTC10 and previous devices so I just wait patiently for new update and switch every 2-3 update. I think if I would run stock, for me it would be enough to have only one update before switching to new Android version. I really do not care about the monthly security updates just because I am ignorant and do not feel compromised. Having phone memory and storage encrypted + password locked device on boot and lockscreen is enough security. So I do not bash HTC for being slow and lazy with updates.
But I completely understand people, who would want to have updates as often as possible and that is why Nokia is a better choice. It is faster to update stock android rather than branded one like with HTC and optional carrier branding.
cavist said:
I never bothered with updating every month since I was and still am running custom roms on my HTC10 and previous devices so I just wait patiently for new update and switch every 2-3 update. I think if I would run stock, for me it would be enough to have only one update before switching to new Android version. I really do not care about the monthly security updates just because I am ignorant and do not feel compromised. Having phone memory and storage encrypted + password locked device on boot and lockscreen is enough security. So I do not bash HTC for being slow and lazy with updates.
But I completely understand people, who would want to have updates as often as possible and that is why Nokia is a better choice. It is faster to update stock android rather than branded one like with HTC and optional carrier branding.
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In my opinion HTC needed to commit to the monthly updates. For me being stuck on June update in November on last year's flagship was the last straw. Too many major security flaws in that period being left unpatched. HTC themselves made a point of being near stock for fast updates then failed to deliver. Google will eventually take over fully.
I've had the phone for 2 days. My first powerful Android phone, upgrading from BB bold 9000. So I might be biased. The overall experience is good.
So in the UK the Nokia 8 was £400, absolute bargain for a phone with THAT processor and THAT screen. But Nokia was still an unknown quantity with android. In the end I decided to buy the Nokia 8 with a 14 day exchange policy. It was too good of a price to pass over and I ain't letting Samsung and iPhone rob me for £600 plus.
The best thing is the pure stock android and overall performance it really is as fast as any android phone except the Pixel 2. Battery was good enough; you have to consider that there's that 2k screen. The 2k screen looks great for an LCD although there's really no need for 2k if it's at the expense of battery life. But yeah the pros of this phone are definitely the screen quality and performance.
On to the bad stuff. First thing I didn't like are the dimensions of the phone; I've used bigger phones but this doesn't feel right in the hand, too wide for the height imo. Next thing is the camera, I don't care for the extra stuff I just want a good point and shoot camera; this phone sucks in that regard. Really slow and really underwhelming quality considering how it was marketed. Next, the fingerprint sensor. It's just too small and it led to it misreading enough to become frustrating. Even when it reads my fingerprint it unlocks much slower than the competition. This the deal breaker for me. The quick glance screen was very basic, only showed text and call notifications no WhatsApp notifications I dunno it just annoyed me.
In the end I returned the phone and paid 100 extra to get the Pixel 2, absolutely outstanding phone but that's for another review.
To conclude the Nokia 8 is a very underrated phone and provides great value for money. But I wanted a phone that I can use for the next 2-3 years without frustration and Nokia just didn't do it for me.
junaidmatlub1 said:
So in the UK the Nokia 8 was £400, absolute bargain for a phone with THAT processor and THAT screen. But Nokia was still an unknown quantity with android. In the end I decided to buy the Nokia 8 with a 14 day exchange policy. It was too good of a price to pass over and I ain't letting Samsung and iPhone rob me for £600 plus.
The best thing is the pure stock android and overall performance it really is as fast as any android phone except the Pixel 2. Battery was good enough; you have to consider that there's that 2k screen. The 2k screen looks great for an LCD although there's really no need for 2k if it's at the expense of battery life. But yeah the pros of this phone are definitely the screen quality and performance.
On to the bad stuff. First thing I didn't like are the dimensions of the phone; I've used bigger phones but this doesn't feel right in the hand, too wide for the height imo. Next thing is the camera, I don't care for the extra stuff I just want a good point and shoot camera; this phone sucks in that regard. Really slow and really underwhelming quality considering how it was marketed. Next, the fingerprint sensor. It's just too small and it led to it misreading enough to become frustrating. Even when it reads my fingerprint it unlocks much slower than the competition. This the deal breaker for me. The quick glance screen was very basic, only showed text and call notifications no WhatsApp notifications I dunno it just annoyed me.
In the end I returned the phone and paid 100 extra to get the Pixel 2, absolutely outstanding phone but that's for another review.
To conclude the Nokia 8 is a very underrated phone and provides great value for money. But I wanted a phone that I can use for the next 2-3 years without frustration and Nokia just didn't do it for me.
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Finger print sensor snappier after 8.1 and also i never faced any misreading. This was very strange problem you faced
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Toedwarrior said:
Finger print sensor snappier after 8.1 and also i never faced any misreading. This was very strange problem you faced
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I've had loads of misreading issues on 8.0.
8.1 fixed it.
Also, as you saying. Fingerprint sensor is twice faster on 8.1 beta.
I'm considering buying another Nokia 8 that's how much I like this phone
Pros
The display is amazing for LCD + no AMOLED burn in
Speaker is louder than my iPhone 7 plus
Battery is good
Stock android 8.1
Smooth/fluidity/fast
Price
Daytime pictures
Headphone jack
Micro SD card
Cons
Lowlight pictures
Fingerprint sensor location and odd shape/size
Vibration/haptic isn't that strong
Shape of phone (it's not so fun to hold vs say my moto g5 plus) awkward shape
Back metal doesn't feel like metal, more like plastic
Great great phone. And yes you can tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p. Even at a distance. Try changing the resolution to 1080p in adb using same way with xz premium to 4k, you will notice the fuzz from 1080p to 1440p
its a great phone when it was locked and without root, now that mine is rooted, lets see what it can do !
The fact you can get this now from carphone warehouse here in the UK for £300, like I did on Monday, is unbelievable. The absolutely blows anything else for that price and up to the OnePlus 5 out of the water. I haven't been this happy with a device in a long time and in 2017 I had a lot of devices. It's only £70 more than the Moto G5s plus. There's no contest.
Devices are shipping and some of us will be receiving them in the next couple of days! So, if you have a OnePlus 5T, give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Unboxing pics are encouraged as well
Who will go first? I'm guessing @Stephen.
I've written a review for the Oneplus 5T, it can be found here! https://www.protonbar.com/mobile-phones/2018/2/12/oneplus-5t
I've been using mine for a while now and I'm really pleased. I'm coming from a Galaxy S7 International, which I've been using for about 2 years.
Screen - The S7 screen has higher res & can get brighter. I can occasionally see pixels on the 5T (esp. with small fonts), but otherwise it's a great AMOLED screen. Surprisingly, the S7 has a much worse blue/green shift problem at higher angles. And the 5T has a very obvious 1" size advantage.
Camera - The S7 camera will be missed. It takes sharper, more reliable pictures. The 5T can't even come close in low light. But, it still is a decent camera.
Battery life - a huge improvement with the 5T, easily gaining well over an extra hour of SOT.
The fingerprint scanner on the 5T is another massive improvement. I even like the rear location, which I resisted at first.
I'm much happier with the 5T's aluminum build than the S7's glass & metal sandwich.
Oxygen OS over Touchwiz is no contest. Glad to be rid of it! Looking forward to Lineage...
So, I'm pretty pleased other than the camera being a bit of a downgrade. The bootloader is unlocked and TWRP installed, so I'm heading off to the development section
So, I have been using the OP5T for a week now (ok, 8 days) and come from Nexus devices, and the following is my user review:
First day received, I was initially a little disappointed in how narrow and tall the phone was, vs. a little shorter and wider (similar to the Nexus 6 build). I was wondering if I should return it because I had wanted a wider phone. I knew it was a 6.01 screen and bigger than my Nexus 6P so I assumed it would be bigger in all aspects but was just as narrow. But I decided to keep it.
I unlocked bl, rooted, using Funk Wizard's guide which was super easy, then flashed Freedom ROM and bluespark kernel. I initially had issues with TWRP and originally flashed the ibe version but then ended up flashing bluespark TWRP. If I didn't remove security - PIN password and entered into TWRP, it would boot in a scrambled way that was unusable. I soft bricked by my own fault by accidentally wiping system, and used the all in one tool just to easily rescue and flash the bluespark TWRP and then rebuilt everything.
Since that point, I have absolutely loved this device and looked past the narrow/tall build. The screen is beautiful. I left the screen protector on that it came with until yesterday, then I removed it and the screen is so much better looking. I always go commando with my devices but keep them in leather fitbag pouches and handle with care. It is a slippery phone especially once without screen protector but it's a sleek device and I don't want to cover the screen or body. Feels so good in hand, and after having gold and white phones for a few years, I welcome the black.
Using Xposed mods and will start to see what Substratum themes work. It really flies on Freedom ROM and bluespark kernel. Very smooth. I almost bought a Pixel 2 XL and don't regret the decision.
OP5T users - enjoy!
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Daily I am more and more frustrated with this phone. I thought I could live with these shortcomings but they are increasingly annoying. Camera is **** just **** I had the N6 forever finally had to move on but couldn't find anything that would meet all needs, so used moto z play while I search for something new. Other then the obvious (screen and speed) there is nothing op5t offer that is better then z. Moto enhancements are superior to op5t but both cameras equally suck. DnD slider would be great it the original dnd function worked but it doesn't so the slider is crap. Pics with hdr on the n6 are simply better on such an old phone. Op5t ambient display is annoying why go so dark, their update speed is poor the dialer app is awful. Theming is poor and very limited why is my navbar white everywhere? All the enhancements I thought would be great are very limited night mode has one schedule cannot have weekend or slow change. Navbar button enhancements are limited and cannot chose an app but are limited with their few option. Dash charger awesome so fast but only with their cord and dash brick stupid apple move and not consumer friendly. All these things that op says is an enhancements of Android are either slightly better or actually a step back from stock and the compromises are not worth it I wish I had kept ph1. Now I will have to go through the pain of selling it on the secondary market since it's past 15 days.
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Now I will have to go through the pain of selling it on the secondary market since it's past 15 days.
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Just like the pain we had to go through reading this childish rant not once, but twice. You have literally got to be the only person who has nothing positive to say about the phone. :laugh:
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Just like the pain we had to go through reading this childish rant not once, but twice. You have literally got to be the only person who has nothing positive to say about the phone. :laugh:
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There are plenty of positives speed looks screen relatively stock software though slowly updated and lunched with 7.1. I read all the reviews I know they are positive. Face unlock is great though not as convenient as smart unlock which unfortunately currently doesn't work annoyingly. You calling me childish says a lot about you. I fully realize it's a rant you don't like it don't ready it and note it's very childish to comment twice on a post.
I recognize they you will probably want to have the last word if you do know I will not answer. However, if you have a constructive question I will be more then happy to respond.
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Daily I am more and more frustrated with this phone. I thought I could live with these shortcomings but they are increasingly annoying. Camera is **** just **** I had the N6 forever finally had to move on but couldn't find anything that would meet all needs, so used moto z play while I search for something new. Other then the obvious (screen and speed) there is nothing op5t offer that is better then z. Moto enhancements are superior to op5t but both cameras equally suck. DnD slider would be great it the original dnd function worked but it doesn't so the slider is crap. Pics with hdr on the n6 are simply better on such an old phone. Op5t ambient display is annoying why go so dark, their update speed is poor the dialer app is awful. Theming is poor and very limited why is my navbar white everywhere? All the enhancements I thought would be great are very limited night mode has one schedule cannot have weekend or slow change. Navbar button enhancements are limited and cannot chose an app but are limited with their few option. Dash charger awesome so fast but only with their cord and dash brick stupid apple move and not consumer friendly. All these things that op says is an enhancements of Android are either slightly better or actually a step back from stock and the compromises are not worth it I wish I had kept ph1. Now I will have to go through the pain of selling it on the secondary market since it's past 15 days.
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We should respect every opinion. Its obvious it has nothing to do with reality but still its your's and i respect it. If im not wrong i think i read the exact same text on some OP5T video reviews on Youtube. So, something smells fishy here. After your description it sound even Nokia 1100 is better than OP5T.
I've had the 5T 4 days, after 2 weeks from a busted 6p. Overall I am very happy with it.
PROs:
1. Speed, mainly doing nandroid backups. I can backup or restore a 7gb file in 95-115 seconds (compared to 8-10 minutes with my 6p). So now I bu anything stable before testing anything.
2. Speed, booting up.
3. Did I say speed?
4. Battery life! 8-9 hrs SOT with same use as 6p which gave me 3.5-4.5. (95% on home WiFi)
CONs:
1. Ugly pastel accent choices.
2. Incompatibility with substratum framework overlays.
3. Very ugly white Navbar with Black Theme.
4. Having to press buttons to reboot 2 times more than you should need to.
5. Volume button location (I liked them on right on 6p)
All else I feel is a wash. Camera functions are better, but image quality is about the same. If I had a choice of 5T or 6P, is choose the 5T for speed. Hoping they'll fix some of the cons. Oreo update should do that.
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my Shamu is on its last legs. I'm looking at the 5T for the price. are most shamu users pleased with this phone? is the phone awesome as is without rooting and just staying stock? thanks
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my Shamu is on its last legs. I'm looking at the 5T for the price. are most shamu users pleased with this phone? is the phone awesome as is without rooting and just staying stock? thanks
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YES. Had shamu then switch to oneplus 3., then this.. would say this device is good or even better.
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my Shamu is on its last legs. I'm looking at the 5T for the price. are most shamu users pleased with this phone? is the phone awesome as is without rooting and just staying stock? thanks
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Essentially what I did is switched from n6 to 5t as my daily driver. The speed and battery are amazing compared to n6 but it is a bit of a sacrifice to leave google proper. Dialer is annoying on the 5t and some features are borked like smart unlock (hopefully fixed soon ). Obviously phone still on 7.x. Screen and face unlock pretty damn good too but screen isn't that much of a difference unless you consider looking at it in the sun where 5t outperforms by far. Biggest difference for me is the camera n6 with hdr take much much much better pictures even though hdr on my is painfully slow. DnD is also supper annoying on 5t vs google proper because it's not automatic. I have the 5t now I thought all the software additions on top of pure google would be awesome but though useful they are somewhat limited and the sacrifice are to big to overcome. I plan on selling the 5t and getting pixel 2 xl.
Excellent phone but the camera is let down by the lack of OIS and decent image processing. Not much denoising happens and the shutter speed is fast compared to my old phone (used to be around 1/17 when OP5T is 1/33) this cranks the ISO and so is noisier.
Also the second camera is useless really. I thought the 20MP was for pixel merging but it doesn't do that. Why? Hopefully it comes in a new update but they have had bad press about poor low light performance now.
Also the big Cluster stays on all the time, not good really as battery suffers. In power save mode it should go off.
Also why is One Plus still using that Android power saver. Use the Lineage power slider!!
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Now I will have to go through the pain of selling it on the secondary market since it's past 15 days.
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If you happen to live in the UK, then its 30 days
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If you happen to live in the UK, then its 30 days
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US.
thisguy159 said:
Daily I am more and more frustrated with this phone. I thought I could live with these shortcomings but they are increasingly annoying. Camera is **** just **** I had the N6 forever finally had to move on but couldn't find anything that would meet all needs, so used moto z play while I search for something new. Other then the obvious (screen and speed) there is nothing op5t offer that is better then z. Moto enhancements are superior to op5t but both cameras equally suck. DnD slider would be great it the original dnd function worked but it doesn't so the slider is crap. Pics with hdr on the n6 are simply better on such an old phone. Op5t ambient display is annoying why go so dark, their update speed is poor the dialer app is awful. Theming is poor and very limited why is my navbar white everywhere? All the enhancements I thought would be great are very limited night mode has one schedule cannot have weekend or slow change. Navbar button enhancements are limited and cannot chose an app but are limited with their few option. Dash charger awesome so fast but only with their cord and dash brick stupid apple move and not consumer friendly. All these things that op says is an enhancements of Android are either slightly better or actually a step back from stock and the compromises are not worth it I wish I had kept ph1. Now I will have to go through the pain of selling it on the secondary market since it's past 15 days.
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can you just flash it with original Andrioid?
Performance 9/10
Phone Design 8/10
Software 7/10
Camera 4/10 (my late nexus 5x was way better)
Regret 6/10
Google cam ported for Oneplus 5T
Has anyone used the GCam ported for Oneplus 5T? I have been using it, but it crashes most of the time when I switch to front camera
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel 3 XL, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 3 XL is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Well it is a Google Pixel so of course there is gonna be some love ?
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I've owned the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 6P, both of which were great devices. What's so special about the 3XL? There's nothing in it that isn't found in phones that are way cheaper. For those of you shouting about vanilla android, there is no vanilla android any more. Even Google now includes features that aren't found in any other version of android. But the thing that annoys me the most about pixel phones is Google's price policy. Why oh why are these phones 30% more expensive in Europe?
i just watched unbox therapy's video of the pixel 3 xl. to be honest i like it. yes the notch is bigger than others but it doesnt seem to bother me. maybe i'm too used to it from my iphone x. i wish the area on the sides of the notch would hold more information, but that is where xda comes in. i'm sure some developers can put more info there with their roms. the camera looks amazing. the screen quality finally looks up to par with samsung even though it's still an LG screen. you can tell they have matured their oled screens fast. the build quality looks really good. that soft gorilla glass on the back that doesnt attract finger prints looks like a nice touch. i'm going to objectively give this device a try instead of blindly following the masses of haters. but based of the videos i've watched already i think this device will end up being a great one.
Why do people keep asking why we pay more for phones in Europe? In Europe we pay VAT which adds about 20% to the cost of just about everything. It may not account for all the price difference but it accounts for the majority of it.
Overall Phones are good with price range. Nothing to hate about it. Phone has lot more than other phones with that price range. I had good experience with Pixel 2 XL. Phones are worthy to buy.
People hate about notch trend but I say its only way to cover screen on front. About some trends you will used to it. its not making problem in functionality.
I have Pixel 2 XL why I should by Pixel 3 XL ?
Plus about this phones is Snapdragon 845 , Titan M security module and Wireless Charging in Hardware. + ( Notch some people not like it )
about notch google will provide option to disable notch like one plus 6.
Pixel Cameras are always awesome then others with that price.
I believe Pixel users are 95% genuine users who uses almost every feature that company provide.
Not like iPhone users wasting lots of parent's money to show off just a logo.
Apple call their eco system it is like handcuffs to buy their won stuff and 30% features not work if you don't have other apple products.
[ Pixels = You will get maximum benefit of Artificial Intelligence. This is what I mean. ]
Got my 3 XL yesterday. I'm coming from a 2 XL so I expected a slight upgrade, but I'm finding a lot of things I love that I didn't expect.
- Tap to wake is WAY faster than on the 2. Having both side by side, the 3 wakes up a full second before the 2.
- The screen on the 3 looks sooo good. Crisper even. I never had any complaints about my 2 XL's screen, but I can tell the 3 XL is definitely better
- Speakers are noticeably better. Not sure about how loud they get, but the sound is richer on the 3 than the 2. The 2 is tinnier.
- Wide Angle Selfie camera is pretty cool
- Low light photos are noticeably better. This I didn't expect to notice as much, but a side by side comparison of the same photo with the two phones shows a noticeable improvement. The 2's photo looks duller than the 3. They might look the same after some post processing, but the 3's photo looks great without any touchups.
- Not phone related, but the Google Fabric case covers more of the bottom of the phone than the 2's did.
The only thing I have NOT liked is that with the notch, the number of notification icons in the status bar has been reduced to three, meaning 2 and a dot if you have more. If I reduce the display size to the lowest one, I can get three and a dot. The 2 XL has 4 and a dot. Hopefully we can figure out a way to turn off the clock. I never use it and I'd gladly give it up in exchange for more icons.
After I got the phone I realize it is so much better than expected. And the software polish and hard ware polish is next level
Very nice but some complaints
Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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My 2017 CRV also had trouble the first time I tried to use Android Auto. No map showed up, it gave me an ETA and the first turn arrow, but the only thing that updated was the ETA which was WAY off. When I got to my destination, I restarted the phone and the car, and on my way home, it worked as it normally does.
Happy out here. Got my 3xl 128gb on Verizon pre paid yesterday. Using on SIM in Ireland. Love pretty much everything about the phone. Kinda wish it had face unlocking but otherwise very happy. Everything just works and no bloat.
OK, so this may be biased, but I'm 100% in love with this phone. This is my first pixel phone, and I'm coming from a mid/budget phone, so that may make all the difference, but from the looks, the feels, the screen, the new gestures, the smoothness, the speakers, the call quality, the battery life, to whatever else this phone is, and can do, I love it. I've never had such a great experience from day one on any other phone, and I've been on Android since I got a Nexus One on day one. To me this phone is perfect. There is not one thing I can think of to complain about (OK I do have one. Have the phone either a bit thicker, or find another way to make the camera bump on the back flush).
Coming from a Oneplus 3T here. I am going through an RMA right now for the speaker issue, just to put that out there. With that aside, I love the phone otherwise. My only concern going in was the battery to be honest. The battery was larger than my 3T but still smaller than last year. It is a great phone. A great improvement over my 3T, which was still one of the best phones I've had.
Love the phone. Totally seamless Google experience
Overall impression so far.
Got the phone on Friday, October 19, 2018.
1. Good build quality (better than 2 XL); feels rigid & premium in hand. The frosted glass back is really smooth & good to touch. Better that my ex's skin.
2. Battery life is pretty good too. Same or better than 2 XL. First cycle (WiFi only): from 96%; SOT: 5 hr 10 min in 1 day 10 hrs with 16% to go. It will ofc get better with more cycles & as it learns more. Also, the battery is smaller than that of 2 XL & powers a bigger & better screen & louder speakers.
3. Cameras. Need not say anything.
4. Screen: it is a Samsung panel on the 3 XL, performs like one. Really good. No black clipping for me except maybe on mobile data when speeds are low. That is more like a buffering and pixel issue but no black clipping. Could happen on any phone.
5. I really like the included USB-C Pixel buds; took me 10 minutes to get the right fit & learn to use them (fit them); follow the animations in the first time setup. They are really good. Good bass too.
6. Charging time using charger included in box: from 16% to 100%: around 1 hour 40 minutes. WiFi on. AOD on.
7. Notch: got used to it already & not noticeable anymore. I don't play games on the phone at all.
8. The speakers: a minor issue of imbalanced audio(bottom grill is louder) but no buzzing for me & no muffled sound either. Fixable via software update.
9. RAM management: it is bad rn; fixable by software update as the cause has already looks to be the kernel `lowmemoryKiller` as per some sources when you google.
I see 0 hardware based issues with the phone (apart from notch which is bad design & not an issue for me at least). Other issues will be addressed via an update. I see better performance in the future already. Even the pixel 2 xl got better with updates (at least for me).
Buying the Pixel stand soon.
TL;DR: Love it. Keeping it.
Like the phone...my only issues are with the display brightness and sometimes ram management. My conspiracy is that google dimmed the screen in order to avoid a crappy battery. 100% on this is like 65% on my iphone. Other than that, I love the speakers! Not sure if it's worth the $900
Love it but highly intrigued by the 6T coming next week
I remember when in the Nexus days, everyone said that all vanilla Android needed was a great camera and it'd be perfect. Google listened and produced pixel line with best camera, 3 generations in a row now. Now all anyone can do is nitpick the hardware. I think Google has achieved what most enthusiasts were after.
overall i like it, price should drop $300+ - Pixel 3 XL crosshatch 128 black G013C
What: Google Pixel 3 XL crosshatch 128 black G013C
good/great:
camera
camera software
free storage of pictures and video
nice to have included earbuds
screen is decent and not overwarm like apple's off white warm screen tones. proper whitebalance, maybe slightly blue, but a very good screen.
fast - fast booting, fast behavior
not so good / annoying:
4 gb ram @ $1000 price point?
128 vs 256/512 ssd at $1000 price point?
no sd card slot - give it a rest google.
included earbuds done noise cancel. why in the world would they do that?
i cant see where 300-400 dollars went for a phone that costs $1000 + $129 in preferred care
insultingly overpriced wireless earbuds
insultingly overpriced wireless dock
insultingly overpriced accessories in general by screwgle.
drm on Qi / fake Qi charging - 10 watts in the drm mode isnt even enough let alone be enough in the drm-allowed mode. 5W is just pathetic.
included wired charger isnt as good as previous pixel chargers. should include the big dual port charger from the pixel c
ifixit score is terrible (4 of 10). right to repair legislation is going to be needed - an industry wide problem - sad to see in a $1000 phone
audio jack missing - why do this?
faceunlock - i do have an iphone X from work (they gave it for free) - i do enjoy that feature.
bad:
- notch is just stupid. its stupid on the X, XS and on 3XL. stop the god damned notches. i just shut the notch off in developer options so its just a waste of pixels but its just poor design.
- pie having that idiotic gesture system and its forced (no developer or hidden option to go back). just copy the iphone's gesture system and be done with this moronic one
overall im happy because $1000 for me isnt breaking the bank but there are plenty of people where $1000 is a bit on the high side and this phone just doesnt deliver that value. its a nice phone and im happy with it - best android has to offer and camera is the most important feature - but google is a jerk, sundar pichai is a greedy jerk and a bad CEO. when i think of sundar pichai i think of a jerk who is also a spineless milquetoast. when i think of Steve Jobs i think of a jerk who was obsessed with aesthetics, beauty, ease of use, wanting to be best of breed, form and function, etc. google needs a better CEO. sundar pichai is a greedy jerk who needs to work at this harder than he does or let someone good take his place
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Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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Hey Im coming from the OG pixel xl as well. I currently have the 6t but don't actually find it much of an upgrade from my pixel. Ive got 15 days to return it so Im looking to buy the 3xl instead. Would you say that the upgrade from the OG xl to the 3xl is worth it?? Thanks!
I realize I. might upset the hardcore Fanboys here,but I'm a little disappointed in my OP6T,The phone is great,but I feel it hasn't got as much support as it's predecessors in terms of updates so far and it's software experience so far has just been okay,
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The only thing that bothers me is the absence of a LED NOTIFICATION light.
Camera could have been better but it's usable.
Other than that, the device itself is amazing.
Before the purchase I had big concerns because of some bad reviews and some comments in this forum (no headphone jack, annoying fingerprint scanner, missing led, screen brightness).
However, after using it, I have to say, that it is great. It is the best phone I ever had (came from multiple samsung devices: galaxy m, galaxy s5, galaxy s8+).
I noticed, that I dont miss any of that things mentioned above with the OP6T.
So for me, it was the other way around: Before purchase, major concerns. After purchase, I feel really happy with the phone.
One thing I don't like about this device is the fingerprint it lags sometimes other brands like oppo and vivo phones have faster fingerprint responsive in display fingerprints.
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The only thing that bothers me is the absence of a LED NOTIFICATION light.
Camera could have been better but it's usable.
Other than that, the device itself is amazing.
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Love my 6T. No disappointment. But I really wish they had I included the notification LED also.
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I bought the McLaren edition, thinking I would have a nice phone for about two years, BUT, my phone suffering from considerable oled uniformity. The fact is that it has the absolutely worst oled screen I've ever seen. And it takes away all the joy of using the phone. I'm super mega disappointed just because of the bad screen.
Notification led missing, but replaced with Plus Beat app. Of course i prefer notification LED.
Camera it's good in day light. At night i sleep.
The updates are GOOD. 6T just caugth chinese hollydays. What phone gives you updates once at 2 weeks ? (open betas)
Fingerprint and some other apps lags because of deep sleep, baterry savings.
Only BIG disappointment for me it's front camera! I never do seflie. It's LAME !
Interesting to read your comments,having come from op3 and last year went from the 6 to 6T,I am disappointed not least because the 6 is a better phone this year than the T, besides the battery life,
really wish they could have fitted in the led somewhere and kept the rear fingerprint scanner,also feel like they just put the in display sensor there for the sake of it,because they ran fresh out of selling points, I'm not even sure they'll keep it for the 7,
Also there has been a lack of quality updates for the 6T in terms of optimizations for camera and fingerprint,
I'm keeping my eye on the xaomi mi 9 thinking that thing is gonna be cheaper than the 7 and comes with a whole load of awesome features like 48mp camera,quick wireless charge.I stick with OnePlus for community and betas,but there prices are gonna be mental soon compared to competition.
Not sure OnePlus is worth settling for anymore when compared to competition
I'm disappointed in the dropped *Universal Audio port* 0 reason for this.. The notification LED 0 reason for this, the inferior FP sensor that gets slower every time I use it and just repeatedly rejects my left thumb no matter where I place it or how many times I re enrol it..
The garbage single speaker and output over the type C port, I thought they would of improved the DAC by now. Luckily for me I bought a KZ Type C cable that has it's own bundled DAC so it's a little better than the one included in the phone.
The garbage camera software and budget Sony sensors... Still cutting corners and making same old mistakes. They wanna be premium now and charge almost flagship money. Yet can't give a good camera experience.
Buggy OOS same old bugs that ruin the experience.... No camera blobs what they promised in the OP3 and no source for the FP sensor is just taking the p**s, Luckily we have gcam ports and Talented devs to port the fp sensor functionality to AOSP based roms.
For me if they don't improve the audio or camera won't be buying future devices. OP3 launched at £309 with basically the same experience, Yet the OP6T is £499 and still paying for the same old "Mid range hardware and cut corners" nothing warrants the price increase.
never!
I've had the McLaren edition for about a month. Whereas I can understand some of the common complaints others have about the device, I personally remain very happy with my purchase. I have had a lot of fun with this device and the pros about the device far outweigh the cons.
I find that these days it is hard to find the perfect device for me mainly because of the development community which is very important to me. The inability to unlock bootloaders and have a robust development community on other devices immediately rule those devices out. At this point, I feel I'll stay with Oneplus devices or try out a Pixel at some point. I just feel that what you get with Oneplus for the money provides a very high ROI.
So, no, I am not disappointed and am rather having fun learning new mods and enjoying my sleek special edition device. :good:
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In today's world all that light does is stay permanently on. Back in '05 it made sense before there was a new notification every 10 minutes for something or another.
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In today's world all that light does is stay permanently on. Back in '05 it made sense before there was a new notification every 10 minutes for something or another.
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I completely disagree.
Every Android device I ever had before was able to use that light plus the Light Flow app, to silently notify me of different types of notifications. Blue for emails from friends, purple for email to my account shared with wife, yellow for commercial things like bills, red for incoming texts, white for voicemail waiting. Flashing in sequence for combinations of these.
No ring, no vibration to distract a meeting, and I could discretely look down at the other wise dark phone at any time and know what's up, or see it from across the kitchen.
It used almost no battery and was completely unobtrusive.
Bring back the LED!
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Only with the in-screen fp sensor. It's a gimmick that solves no problem and is sub-standard compared to rear fp sensor that preceded it.
Frankenscript said:
I completely disagree.
Every Android device I ever had before was able to use that light plus the Light Flow app, to silently notify me of different types of notifications. Blue for emails from friends, purple for email to my account shared with wife, yellow for commercial things like bills, red for incoming texts, white for voicemail waiting. Flashing in sequence for combinations of these.
No ring, no vibration to distract a meeting, and I could discretely look down at the other wise dark phone at any time and know what's up, or see it from across the kitchen.
It used almost no battery and was completely unobtrusive.
Bring back the LED!
Well, you should check out NoLED app. You can do most all of the above! I have every type of notification color coded and the dot(s) appear on the screen (and moves around to prevent any burn-in). Doesn't seem to use a lot of battery for me. :good:
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So far I am loving the 6T! I just went to the Verizon store and tried to talk my wife into letting me buy the S10. I do my normal routine and explain to her,,,as she is ignoring me LOL,, that the new S10 has all these new features and improvements. But, what really happened is that I talked myself out of buying the S10. I just couldn't justify spending 380 (which is what it would have been after trading in my older S9 and the Teacher discount she gets). The ram was the same, storage size the same, touch wiz in any form can be a pain (even though the new UI is pretty good I have to admit). It just wasnt that big of an upgrade to me. After putting a wireless charging receiver inside the case of my 6T now I have wireless charging, I am completely content.
this phone sucks....
i don't get why so many said its good phone or the best phone at all
i am actually having problem with dual sim, it won't lock to my data sim and it keeps on switching to the non data sim after i leave my house and wifi get disconnected so i have to manually switch back to my data everytime, its so annoying
also the finger print its a joke...its better off using face or pin
bluetooth keeps disconnect occasionally when it connected my car's bluetooth, not sure why and not sure why sometimes works
vibrate is very weak that missed all the calls and notifications
double tap to wake up doesn't work 100 percent of the time, maybe 80 percent work
with this price point, its sucks, its a super annoying phone
Must be worth something for TMobile to be offering a trade in value of 390 for it if you're buying the Galaxy S10.
I'm not disappointed as I did my research and knew what to expect from the phone from this price point. I do miss the stereo speakers set up and led notification but other than that it's a good phone.
If people want all the bells and whistles then they are going to have to spend £1000 on Samsung or Huawei. There are competition out there for OnePlus at the similar price point but they also make compromises sadly, like the Mi 9 looks great on paper but still mono speaker and early reviews say it's laggy.