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I have been using Wolf's GB ROM for 10 days now.
It is not only really smoother than stock SE GB rom, but also so stable. Really, it was a child's play for me to install it (actually it was also my first custom ROM) just like using a stock rom..
Now,
I'm happy with this rom at the moment but i want to try a couple more roms. I'm a little bit obsessed about smoothness of the phone.
Which one would you chose as the smoothest if you have to?
Please answer the poll if you have tried at least two of them..
Further reviews, ups and downs and advices are accepted..
1. Wolfs TW Gingerbread ROM
2. Blue Sparks
3. VMOD V5
4. ThGo2
5. Cyanogenmod
First of all, you forgot T.E.A.M. ROM in the poll.
phobias1903 said:
Really, it was a child's play for me to install it (actually it was also my first custom ROM) just like using a stock rom..
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That's the case with all custom ROMs, installing them is as simple as flashing one or two zips in recovery.
I find that installing a custom ROM is actually simpler than flashing stock with SEUS/PC Companion/FlashTool.
phobias1903 said:
Now,
I'm happy with this rom at the moment but i want to try a couple more roms. I'm a little bit obsessed about smoothness of the phone.
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In my humble opinion, which is based on experience since I myself am working on tweaking stock SE ROM for the past 4 months or so, a stock-based ROM is, at the end of the day, a modified but still stock ROM.
Granted there are the popular "tweaks" which are basically scripts that run on startup to optimise mostly the internal Android task killer and/or some kernel parameters, etc. The very core of the ROM, in most, if not all, cases remains the same. That way, my advice is to find a ROM that combines an acceptable by your personal taste level of "smoothness" (which is a purely relevant term, as it cannot be measured accurately), graphical enviroment and features.
Each user will probably give you a different answer because user experience may differ due to countless factors (apps installed, general way and purpose of using the phone). Gamers would mostly prefer a "stripped" ROM with minimal apps to leave them with space and memory for intense gaming. IMers (people using the phone mainly to communicate by mail, SMS, instant-messaging) will most of the times not notice performance improvements between ROMs because said apps are generally light-weight.
For a totally different experience, for example, Cyanogen could very well be your answer.
It is by default much smoother to SE ROMs, alas there might be things missing or not working at all, along with certain inconveniences.
So, it all comes down to what you want to do with your phone and what you feel is better. As with everything in life, obsession is never a good thing. At the end of the day, you want to be using your phone and not flashing it and setting it up from scratch every other day, right? And, let me say, that a poll will never help you as much as flashing and using the ROMs yourself.
Good luck!
Agreed...
cyanogen is great because it uses minimal system resources. It is a nice light, basic alternative, and therefore is quite fast.
As usual Iris explained it so well that a further answer isn´t really neccesary
Just a few summarised words; When you prefer a ROm where everything is working choose a ROM based on stock because just there everything is working especially the camera. Just there you have the Sony Ericcson camera app where you have features that aren´t available in real Custom ROMS.
In this case I can recommend you T.E.A.M Rom. It is very fast, beautiful and the support is awesome. But yeah....Iris mentioned that, too
When your priority isn´t the camera but best battery life and smoothness I can recommend you Tatsuo´s CM7 ROM running with his own kernel.
And where is MIUI? I happy with this ROM
iridaki said:
First of all, you forgot T.E.A.M. ROM in the poll.
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Definitely!
iridaki said:
At the end of the day, you want to be using your phone and not flashing it and setting it up from scratch every other day, right?
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Uhm, ... wrong. I want to flash and set it up every other day, sometimes even 2-3 times a day
Admitted, my desire to flash is greatly reduced since I use T.E.A.M ROM. But FXP046 will be a definite go for me and hell, I LOVE to play with many different ROMs. I have to admit that I reduced the apps I always install to a minimum and only install more apps if I plan to stay a little longer (--> T.E.A.M).
So, seeing it from this point of view, I make the worst out of my smartphone because I rarely can use its full potential. But who cares, flashing is fun
I have been using custom rom on this device since i bought it and took it out of the box (4-5 months ago).
To be honest and coming from other "superior" device, in terms of performance this device never disappointed me, for me it's like a "diesel car", you'll not have the power that maybe you are able to get whether you have a device powered by a Snapdragon 800-35 series. But this device ever performs very decently in every task, without major troubles.
Today i used my girlfriend's G4 Plus Dual-SIM XT1641 (totally stock, non-rooted, no anything, besides the lot of trash apps/games and Google bloatware that she has installed) and surprisingly i felt it much more "light/fast", for example when scrolling. So, i decided to make comparissions using the so much hated benchmark test (Geekbench 4 specifically, and AnTuTu 3D).
My results were:
Stock Nougat (7.0 June security patch):
Single-core: 742
Multi-Core: 3081
Stock LineageOS 14.1 (without modifications):
Single-Core: 662
Multi-core: 2314
The stock G4 plus did the test 5 minutes more quickly than the other one (mine XT1641 Single-SIM).
Then, i did the same test with AnTuTu, the result was similar, the stock one scored like a 20% better, and ended the test 3-4 minutes first. But the important thing for me was in the graphics test (GPU), honestly the stock one destroyed my device (running 14.1) in terms of graphic smoothness (FPS). The graphics in my device were really slow and i could see this slowdown in real time (running the test in both devices side to side, in the same time) [5/7FPS less than the stock one].
I use LineageOS 14.1 with his stock kernel, as it comes.
The obvious question:
[Question]: Why this happens?
I ask this because in every device that i owned the results were the opposite, i mean: CyanogenMod/LineageOS was pretty superior than the Stock rom (in terms of performance and even in benchmarking tests).
Don't get me wrong and think that i am complaining about the custom rom performance, in fact, i love (and i'm currently using) custom roms. I am just curious about the reasons of these results.
Your opinions are really welcome.
I never use or trust benchmarks. I always go off by what feels better to me.
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I never use or trust benchmarks. I always go off by what feels better to me.
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Definitely that's te way to go. :good:
I can also say that stock is alot smoother than the custom ROMs. Gaming performance is also better and I've even tried asking why custom ROMs gaming performance suffers compared to stock but no one seems to respond
I've tried LOS and ViperOS on my G4 Plus (XT1640 2gb RAM). The performance was much better with both custom ROM's, It was very snappy, held more apps in memory and was a more pleasant experience. Stock ROM perfoemance is not bad, but I see very clearly that the apps won't stay im memory for long and often I have scrolling lag when using facebook on chrome. For gaming I havent noticed any diference whatsoever.
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I've tried LOS and ViperOS on my G4 Plus (XT1640 2gb RAM). The performance was much better with both custom ROM's, It was very snappy, held more apps in memory and was a more pleasant experience. Stock ROM perfoemance is not bad, but I see very clearly that the apps won't stay im memory for long and often I have scrolling lag when using facebook on chrome. For gaming I havent noticed any diference whatsoever.
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What games have you tried?.
I've tried bleach brave souls and I get seriously bad lag compared to stock.
Although you are right about stock having bad memory management
yes even i feel the same in custom roms while scrolling or even while pulling the quick settings bar there is a lag but stock rom is pretty smooth and even the battery backup on stock is better than many custom roms but for most of the people thats ok and they dont care about these things and they like the customizations and theme support and many other features that are not available in stock
i personally feel like i can literally see the battery percentage going down in custom roms too fast
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yes even i feel the same in custom roms while scrolling or even while pulling the quick settings bar there is a lag but stock rom is pretty smooth and even the battery backup on stock is better than many custom roms but for most of the people thats ok and they dont care about these things and they like the customizations and theme support and many other features that are not available in stock
i personally feel like i can literally see the battery percentage going down in custom roms too fast
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Try the aosp one's like omni, aosp extended, ultra-caf, du, cypher (btw official 4.1 is out), pure nexus, cosmic they are smoother than most of the lineage based one's.
In my opinion, I'm thinking that if you root the phone the performance decreases. The more you do, the more the performance decreases. Stock roms all always better for me.
Will you install an stock rom or stay in linage??
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In my opinion, I'm thinking that if you root the phone the performance decreases. The more you do, the more the performance decreases. Stock roms all always better for me.
Will you install an stock rom or stay in linage??
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I am on stock right now, rooted with EX. I obtained the same results as the post (with Geekbench 4). I know that the score isn't really important, anyway, i will use this rom a couple of days, to take better conclusions.
I notice that on stock, I get 5-7 hours of SoT, but on any ROM, even stock aosp, I get 3-4 hours. Quite strange.
I am by no means an expert on this but maybe the Moto stock rom is just much better than most stock ROMs. Where a custom rom may show performance improvements over other custom ROMs, they aren't an improvement over other stick ROMs? I don't know . I think the developers of ROMs for our device have done a fantastic job and I enjoy the customizations the ROMs offer. After having hard bricked my last phone twice (unable to bring back to life the last time), I am sticking with a locked bootloader and stock for awhile. Don't want to have to replace my phone again.
Multi-core: 2330 with Cypheros 7.1.2
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I am by no means an expert on this but maybe the Moto stock rom is just much better than most stock ROMs. Where a custom rom may show performance improvements over other custom ROMs, they aren't an improvement over other stick ROMs? I don't know . I think the developers of ROMs for our device have done a fantastic job and I enjoy the customizations the ROMs offer. After having hard bricked my last phone twice (unable to bring back to life the last time), I am sticking with a locked bootloader and stock for awhile. Don't want to have to replace my phone again.
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Totally agreed, developers like Silesh.Nair, Jleeblanch, vache, and others did amazing jobs here. We are lucky to have devs of that level, because we have ROMs of quality and variety for this device. Thanks for your great opinion.
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Try the aosp one's like omni, aosp extended, ultra-caf, du, cypher (btw official 4.1 is out), pure nexus, cosmic they are smoother than most of the lineage based one's.
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I installed OmniROM yesterday, used it for a while, and yes, it runs much more smoother than the LOS based ROMs i've tried, also i did the Geekbench 4 test, the results were: Multi-Core: 3081, Single-Core: 738, hence, the test is not lying (same results as the stock rom).
Still i do not know why the performance of the LOS baseds rom is not like the AOSP ones. I am not saying this only based in the results of a test.
I am currently on RR because i love his customization and features, but i see the difference when i try AOSP in terms of overall performance.
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I installed OmniROM yesterday, used it for a while, and yes, it runs much more smoother than the LOS based ROMs i've tried, also i did the Geekbench 4 test, the results were: Multi-Core: 3081, Single-Core: 738, hence, the test is not lying (same results as the stock rom).
Still i do not know why the performance of the LOS baseds rom is not like the AOSP ones. I am not saying this only based in the results of a test.
I am currently on RR because i love his customization and features, but i see the difference when i try AOSP in terms of overall performance.
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Which ROM did you recommend for more battery and performance? Based on your device and your experience.
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Which ROM did you recommend for more battery and performance? Based on your device and your experience.
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OmniROM, without a doubt. I tried plenty of roms, it's seems to be the only purely AOSP based. This rom performs like the stock one but whit the plus of a better battery life.
The only bad thing about Omni could be that is has not all the features that the LOS based ones offers, like Invicta or RR.
well, that's right. for me stock rom also feels a lot smoother faster and battery life is incredible. best stock software i've seen from motorola. i like custom roms and all the possibilities they bring, and we already have some very stable like invicta, or LOS. but i love this phone on stock (and debloated hehehe)
Simple Question. Got Nuclearom on my phone and am quite happy with it. But I am thinking of switching to DarkRom, Candy or AOSPX. What were you experiences, which performed best etc?
For the g model dark ROM does a good job with the Los thread modem, no call bug, viper works and the delta updates are a great feature too. Battery life is good too.
No lags !!!
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Simple Question. Got Nuclearom on my phone and am quite happy with it. But I am thinking of switching to DarkRom, Candy or AOSPX. What were you experiences, which performed best etc?
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Nuclea. all of the others had performance problems not even fixable with a custom kernel. Some (Lineage, RR) had terrible GPU handling when I used them, but that was like 5 or 6 months ago, so maybe they ironed that out. Thing is, radioactive kernel has a very nicely tweaked governor (when it doesn't break your touchscreen, that is )
I'd say you should backup your current install on an SD card if you want to try something else, because you might as well want to go back. Most other custom ROMs are carbon copies of each other for some reason. For instance, RR looks like AICP, Nuclea like those but with less tweaks... and the difference is mostly the maintainer and the name (usually even the 'goal' of the ROM is the same, to "provide with the best tweakability and functionality while keeping performance best" or something on the lines).
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Nuclea. all of the others had performance problems not even fixable with a custom kernel. Some (Lineage, RR) had terrible GPU handling when I used them, but that was like 5 or 6 months ago, so maybe they ironed that out. Thing is, radioactive kernel has a very nicely tweaked governor (when it doesn't break your touchscreen, that is )
I'd say you should backup your current install on an SD card if you want to try something else, because you might as well want to go back. Most other custom ROMs are carbon copies of each other for some reason. For instance, RR looks like AICP, Nuclea like those but with less tweaks... and the difference is mostly the maintainer and the name (usually even the 'goal' of the ROM is the same, to "provide with the best tweakability and functionality while keeping performance best" or something on the lines).
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Feel you man, Tried Carbon and RR before Nuclea and got disappointed, very slow and buggy in comparison. But DarkPixel looks promising and people are reporting good speeds and more/better features.
Is someone around here who tested DarkPixel with Radioactive Kernel? Or did some other kernel perform better? Or might it even be the best to stick with the Kernel of the ROM? So many options, so few differences :/
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For the g model dark ROM does a good job with the Los thread modem, no call bug, viper works and the delta updates are a great feature too. Battery life is good too.
No lags !!!
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Nice to hear that, might try it out. Any Costum Kernel Attempts or nah?
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Nice to hear that, might try it out. Any Costum Kernel Attempts or nah?
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No, not necessary, the kernel that comes with rom does perform absolutely fine in my eyes. Only modded a bit with kernel auditor, read ahead, no big changes. Viper aroma 2.94 and lawnchair as launcher, just using the black ui, no substratum. The rom is smooth, lagfree and not overloaded with features. For smooth browsing I use the chromium swe
here from xda. Magisk 14 with unified hosts just work fine.
No saftey pass issue.
This are all personal choices of course, but it gives me a good performance.
Overall I find there's very little differences between all the lineage based roms. I use aokp with llama kernel but I may switch again if I can bothered. I use war mod too.
Used all of those ROMs for some time and finally settled with DarkRom. It is stable, fast, got its own color engine, so I replaced substratum with daily issues and never ending updates. Delta updates is another plus. I "customized" it by adding viper4android, Omniswitch and Phonograph music player and that's it. I play with the kernel, but return to the built in one, which is unbeatable smooth.
Recently got my S4 i9505 back, runs on factory stock 5.0.1 touchwiz, looking to root it, and install a rom? Which touchwiz, or pure android rom do you recommend?
Well, many ROMS around are done in amazing way... the best idea is to try each of them for like 5-7 days and pick a choice urself.. Some ROMs rock if u are a gamer type, some are well optimized for daily messages/calls/browsing with fine battery life... Some of them u won't like after 2hours of usage, it happens, so...
All I know for sure is that theres no the best rom, at first I didn't belive, but if u try them out, u will see...
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Well, many ROMS around are done in amazing way... the best idea is to try each of them for like 5-7 days and pick a choice urself.. Some ROMs rock if u are a gamer type, some are well optimized for daily messages/calls/browsing with fine battery life... Some of them u won't like after 2hours of usage, it happens, so...
All I know for sure is that theres no the best rom, at first I didn't belive, but if u try them out, u will see...
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Yes i am the gamer type!! please tell me a good gaming rom + daily driver type rom?? please !
spyroz540 said:
Yes i am the gamer type!! please tell me a good gaming rom + daily driver type rom?? please !
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well, the problem is that i am not a gamer at all, but i read long time ago that people had a great expirience with these roms:
TW based: imperium, wiz cyan
AOSP: pick any, all of them are mostly fast as a rockets
depends on what u like
and u can check shark jungle profile on youtube, he describes almost all ROMs...
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well, the problem is that i am not a gamer at all, but i read long time ago that people had a great expirience with these roms:
TW based: imperium, wiz cyan
AOSP: pick any, all of them are mostly fast as a rockets
depends on what u like
and u can check shark jungle profile on youtube, he describes almost all ROMs...
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Thank you! i think i will go for Rocket Roms! also i get latest version + speed + security. I think Resurrection Remix or Normal AOSP rom.
spyroz540 said:
Thank you! i think i will go for Rocket Roms! also i get latest version + speed + security. I think Resurrection Remix or Normal AOSP rom.
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Ressurection has many modification and customization, but i faced a little worst battery life than jdct one .... test both and see urself bro
stef_zii says rigth.
For me:
Give a Shot these -> JDCTeam(AOSP or LOS based) - LineageOS(LOS based) - Wizcyan(TW based) - SuperTW(TW based)
These are mostly known and good ones. RR has some (actually so much) bugs and Devs don't fix them, but you can try it.
Tw roms based Android 5 or 4 and some of them using Samsung galaxy S5-6-7-8 or Note4-5-7 framework that looks like these devices, but not same.
On the other hand AOSP&LOS based roms are pretty nice designed and looks cool. Substratum is a world that you can change mostly everything in your phone. Stability and daily speed better but i don't know if gaming speed good or not(i don't play games, just sometimes little games). But you couldn't feel any lag at heavy games like GTA San Andreas (at medium or medium-high settings), Asphalt 8, NFS, or others..
And at AOSP&LOS based roms, try Android 6-7 and 8(still beta in AOSP but LOS is optimazed, still not fully trust).
Edit: Forgot to say that, camera in TW roms gives better quality than others because of Samsung's tricks.. But enough for me at daily usage & Stability & Style/Design better at AOSP&LOS based roms for me.
So, if you have any question, i'll be here. But mostly, you need to try many of roms.
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stef_zii says rigth.
For me:
Give a Shot these -> JDCTeam(AOSP or LOS based) - LineageOS(LOS based) - Wizcyan(TW based) - SuperTW(TW based)
These are mostly known and good ones. RR has some (actually so much) bugs and Devs don't fix them, but you can try it.
Tw roms based Android 5 or 4 and some of them using Samsung galaxy S5-6-7-8 or Note4-5-7 framework that looks like these devices, but not same.
On the other hand AOSP&LOS based roms are pretty nice designed and looks cool. Substratum is a world that you can change mostly everything in your phone. Stability and daily speed better but i don't know if gaming speed good or not(i don't play games, just sometimes little games). But you couldn't feel any lag at heavy games like GTA San Andreas (at medium or medium-high settings), Asphalt 8, NFS, or others..
And at AOSP&LOS based roms, try Android 6-7 and 8(still beta in AOSP but LOS is optimazed, still not fully trust).
Edit: Forgot to say that, camera in TW roms gives better quality than others because of Samsung's tricks.. But enough for me at daily usage & Stability & Style/Design better at AOSP&LOS based roms for me.
So, if you have any question, i'll be here. But mostly, you need to try many of roms.
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Thanks! i was actually thinking of just installing Google Play Edition 5.1, it looks fast and perfect for what i want, also as i'm not installing a newer version of android, which would slightly slow down the device with only lags here and there. While having S4 at 5.1 will possibly give really good performance?
is it stable?
how about performance?
maybe daily driver?
this is rom link ... https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...om-untouched-google-play-edition-5-1-t3198177
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Thanks! i was actually thinking of just installing Google Play Edition 5.1, it looks fast and perfect for what i want, also as i'm not installing a newer version of android, which would slightly slow down the device with only lags here and there. While having S4 at 5.1 will possibly give really good performance?
is it stable?
how about performance?
maybe daily driver?
this is rom link ... https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...om-untouched-google-play-edition-5-1-t3198177
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Actuay, i tried both GPE Android 4.4.4 and 5.1, but i don't remember 5.1. GPE 4.4.4 really nice and still it gives best performance for daily usage, but has a little bug which so many videos at youtube lags.
Don't forget that you need a custom kernel for both. Because random reboots broke everything if you use it at stock kernel(as i remember).
Google made a good job even at S4.
I know daily usage at 5.1 but not for long time, it was a few days before random reboots(i want a advanture with stock kernel), so actually it was really good. But as you probably know that Android 5.1 will always have some bad stuffs about structer of itself. Just give a shot for both.. (Camera still can't be reach to TW based roms quality)
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Actuay, i tried both GPE Android 4.4.4 and 5.1, but i don't remember 5.1. GPE 4.4.4 really nice and still it gives best performance for daily usage, but has a little bug which so many videos at youtube lags.
Don't forget that you need a custom kernel for both. Because random reboots broke everything if you use it at stock kernel(as i remember).
Google made a good job even at S4.
I know daily usage at 5.1 but not for long time, it was a few days before random reboots(i want a advanture with stock kernel), so actually it was really good. But as you probably know that Android 5.1 will always have some bad stuffs about structer of itself. Just give a shot for both.. (Camera still can't be reach to TW based roms quality)
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Thanks! which kernel should i use?
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well, the problem is that i am not a gamer at all, but i read long time ago that people had a great expirience with these roms:
TW based: imperium, wiz cyan
AOSP: pick any, all of them are mostly fast as a rockets
depends on what u like
and u can check shark jungle profile on youtube, he describes almost all ROMs...
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Hi This is exactly what I was looking for. My sister's phone got stolen. No money to buy a new one yet. I gave her my old S4 i9505 to use but I am afraid she might find it a little to slow from what she is used to. I had mine rooted so I am trying to find a good Rom for her. She is not a gamer though. All I need is Rom that allows her S4 to have a great battery life, is fast and stable... Oh and it would even better if it was above Android 5.0... Android 5.1 or above would be great or.... A rom that only looks as if it was above 5.0.
Any recommendations? Please help. Thank u in advance.
Im a tad confused... are there just enough differences between stock and LOS/AOSP roms that it really warrants separate kernels?
Stock seems pretty darn close to LOS to me...
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Im a tad confused... are there just enough differences between stock and LOS/AOSP roms that it really warrants separate kernels?
Stock seems pretty darn close to LOS to me...
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Far more to it than the differences on the surface that you see. With regards to your concern about kernels. Most of the Pie rom's here use EAS kernels which at this point have made the default HMP kernel on stock fairly meaningless. Performance and battery life has become so much better now that the most used kernel Artemis has matured alot. Alongside Neutrino as well. Either of these kernels offer better performance and battery life over stock. So this won't be a different in features or amount of apps installed but rather almost a very different feel to the phone. Case in point scrolling on large mounds of text or say the Play Store is leaps and bounds smoother on an EAS kernel vs an HMP kernel. Hope this helps
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Far more to it than the differences on the surface that you see. With regards to your concern about kernels. Most of the Pie rom's here use EAS kernels which at this point have made the default HMP kernel on stock fairly meaningless. Performance and battery life has become so much better now that the most used kernel Artemis has matured alot. Alongside Neutrino as well. Either of these kernels offer better performance and battery life over stock. So this won't be a different in features or amount of apps installed but rather almost a very different feel to the phone. Case in point scrolling on large mounds of text or say the Play Store is leaps and bounds smoother on an EAS kernel vs an HMP kernel. Hope this helps
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oh i definately get the benefits
on exkernel atm, and live the differences it made... i just dont understand why we "cant" use the same kernel on a LOS rom.
there only differences i really "see" are some extra framework files
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oh i definately get the benefits
on exkernel atm, and live the differences it made... i just dont understand why we "cant" use the same kernel on a LOS rom.
there only differences i really "see" are some extra framework files
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Wifi is built as a module on stock... And is kernel integrated on custom...
So if you don't use wifi... Do your thing booboo
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Wifi is built as a module on stock... And is kernel integrated on custom...
So if you don't use wifi... Do your thing booboo
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there we go
exactly the sort of stuff im lookin for
personally... i could live without wifi.... but anything else? ive seen other devices with similar modules for bluetooth, external storage (sdcard), etc....
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there we go
exactly the sort of stuff im lookin for
personally... i could live without wifi.... but anything else? ive seen other devices with similar modules for bluetooth, external storage (sdcard), etc....
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Afaik... Just WiFi