Anyone can help me to confirm that op5 oreo beta is based on android 8.0?
Because chinese websites say that op5 oreo beta is based on android 7.1
You can use adb to check:
adb shell strings /dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/modem | sed -n 's/.*"apps": "\([^"]*\)".*/\1/p'//
You can google search 一加手机5 8.0 7.1 底层 if you understand chinese.
i.am.newbie said:
Anyone can help me to confirm that op5 oreo beta is based on android 8.0?
Because chinese websites say that op5 oreo beta is based on android 7.1
You can use adb to check:
adb shell strings /dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/modem | sed -n 's/.*"apps": "\([^"]*\)".*/\1/p'//
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oxygen os 5.0 is Android Oreo (Android 8.0)
Why would Oreo be based on Nougat?
i.am.newbie said:
Anyone can help me to confirm that op5 oreo beta is based on android 8.0?
Because chinese websites say that op5 oreo beta is based on android 7.1
You can use adb to check:
adb shell strings /dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/modem | sed -n 's/.*"apps": "\([^"]*\)".*/\1/p'//
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Any dev can help me to confirm it?
The settings menu is based on 7.1 for some reason.
I don't understand why OnePlus didn't move completely to the 8.0 source
Well, these were my initial thoughts - why the f, OnePlus 5 wants to retain Nougat look & feel. Perhaps, they don't want end users to get confused with new UI and still have new platform.
But I confirm they are using Oreo base - you can check presence of new "manifest.xml" under vendor partition - which is new way forward starting with oreo to define HALs. Also, the kernel source tag 6.x is for Oreo.. everything suggests its based on Oreo but OP team wants to retain Nougat feel (quite stupid in my opinion.)
Also, devices don't start fresh when new android version drops. Instead dev team will "bring up" existing device tree to make it compatible with new blobs and new source API/requirements. Perhaps, some left over from old base we are seeing in the screenshot shared.
Cheers.
neobuddy89 said:
Well, these were my initial thoughts - why the f, OnePlus 5 wants to retain Nougat look & feel. Perhaps, they don't want end users to get confused with new UI and still have new platform.
But I confirm they are using Oreo base - you can check presence of new "manifest.xml" under vendor partition - which is new way forward starting with oreo to define HALs. Also, the kernel source tag 6.x is for Oreo.. everything suggests its based on Oreo but OP team wants to retain Nougat feel (quite stupid in my opinion.)
Cheers.
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The OOS Betas do have the new Oreo UI. It does not have a Nougat look or feel. But it's possible some other mod that OOS uses requires that code. Maybe they need it to keep their spyware working properly.
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The OOS Betas do have the new Oreo UI. It does not have a Nougat look or feel. But it's possible some other mod that OOS uses requires that code. Maybe they need it to keep their spyware working properly.
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Maybe. But in this case, if they did so, then I would say bye to OOS and hello to Paranoid.
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The OOS Betas do have the new Oreo UI. It does not have a Nougat look or feel. But it's possible some other mod that OOS uses requires that code. Maybe they need it to keep their spyware working properly.
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Not really Oreo UI ...some improvements exists thou
RogerF81 said:
Maybe. But in this case, if they did so, then I would say bye to OOS and hello to Paranoid.
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eh i'm also waiting for pa oreo
luxandroid said:
Not really Oreo UI ...some improvements exists thou
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I ran Oreo on two different Google devices--the Nexus 6P and Pixel XL. OOS is definitely using the Oreo UI. I think One Plus is taking shortcuts to update to Oreo which is pretty typical for the company. Android apps are generally made to be compatible with older Android builds so the fact that OnePlus is using some Nougat HALs and APIs in their version of Oreo isn't something most users would ever even notice. But this isn't new for One Plus. The reason the ported Pixel Camera app works perfectly on many phones but not the OP5 is that One Plus used an outdated camera API in their version of Nougat.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/7iydl8/oneplus_allegedly_kept_711_firmware_in_its_oreo/
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Will Mi A1 get project treble with oreo update?
what is that?
I hope YES...
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what is that?
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The Android 8.0 release includes Project Treble, a major re-architect of the Android OS framework designed to make it easier, faster, and less costly for manufacturers to update devices to a new version of Android. Treble is for all new devices launching with Android 8.0 and beyond (the new architecture is already running on the Developer Preview for Pixel phones).Project Treble separates the vendor implementation (device-specific, lower-level software written by silicon manufacturers) from the Android OS framework via a new vendor interface.
In Android 7.x and earlier, no formal vendor interface exists so device makers must update large portions of the Android code to move a device to a newer version of Android.
But as far as I know project treble is only useful if they are using a custom UI like MIUI, Flyme or Touchwiz. Isn't it treble superfluous without a custom UI?
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But as far as I know project treble is only useful if they are using a custom UI like MIUI, Flyme or Touchwiz. Isn't it treble superfluous without a custom UI?
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There are some little things, like Xiaomi's camera app. With treble Google could update the OS directly, and Xiaomi could update camera separately.
Am I right? It's more a question than an affirmation
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There are some little things, like Xiaomi's camera app. With treble Google could update the OS directly, and Xiaomi could update camera separately.
Am I right? It's more a question than an affirmation
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I don't know. But I imagine Xiaomi could simply realease and update the camera app through the play store. Blackberry does this with it's core apps which can only be installed on blackberry devices.
Localhorst86 said:
I don't know. But I imagine Xiaomi could simply realease and update the camera app through the play store. Blackberry does this with it's core apps which can only be installed on blackberry devices.
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True. Motorola used to do the same (I don't know if actually does). Maybe Treble it's not that important for us, Android One users.
While Treble is focused on official Android OEMs, Project Treble should also be revolutionary for aftermarket Android ROM projects
https://www.xda-developers.com/why-current-oneplus-nokia-phones-wont-be-project-treble-certified/
We have /system/vendor....
But on the other hand, we have dual partitions, so maybe they dare to repartition. The beta will be out soon, so we will see.
More details about project treble https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-thoroughly-reviewed/2/#h1
so, any update about this as Beta is released in Mi a1. Did anyone find anything?
I can't find the link anymore, but I've had people test it on Oreo firmware and it was confirmed not to have Treble.
Unfortunately we will not
Until we don't get 4.4.x kernel, we won't get project Trebel. I've never seen a SD625 phone running the 4.4.x kernel so we should blame Qualcomm instead of Xiaomi (tested on a Moto G5 Plus).
Looks like the sources are out
https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/andro...mmit/bed1ab9e043f7b182e7b352fbe827ccab9efb389
Let the development begin :fingers-crossed:
Yeah....for Nougat, who cares? lol
I very much doubt many devs are going to be falling over themselves to build a Nougat rom when most of them are currently trying (with no help from OnePlus) to develop Oreo roms.
Also, why is it N? Wasn't the 5T supposed to launch with O? GSMArena seems to think so...
Yep but let's release a new device first before we can real get the development going?don't want to finish things do we ?
Android 8 without xposed is useless for me.
I'm glad that op5t comes with android 7.x.x
Hi... I've been reading some news about Project Treble, and how it helps with the custom ROM development and software updates. But I want to ask. Is this working on phones like the Galaxy S5? Because it would be helpful considering the potential of this phone and how stable it is running on Nougat, and an Oreo update would be easier to Port.
Unfortunately, it's not. It is only compatible with phones that were initially shipped with Android 8.0.
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Unfortunately, it's not. It is only compatible with phones that were initially shipped with Android 8.0.
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But Huawei Mate 9 got an AOSP build of Oreo in one day thanks to this. And it has never gotten updated since Nougat. It used Treble as the blog said.
Raynelfss said:
But Huawei Mate 9 got an AOSP build of Oreo in one day thanks to this. And it has never gotten updated since Nougat. It used Treble as the blog said.
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After reading that article, you're right. I read a news article that said only phones shipped with 8.0 will be compatible with treble, my mistake.
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But Huawei Mate 9 got an AOSP build of Oreo in one day thanks to this. And it has never gotten updated since Nougat. It used Treble as the blog said.
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Mate 9 have 4.4 kernel with android Oreo. S5 have 3.4 kernel always. And treble is compatible by phones with 4.4 kernel and above. So no treble for s5.
djgigi94 said:
Mate 9 have 4.4 kernel with android Oreo. S5 have 3.4 kernel always. And treble is compatible by phones with 4.4 kernel and above. So no treble for s5.
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Ok... That's sad but ok. At least we are having Oreo anyway! Thanks for clarifying. Close thread please!
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Mate 9 have 4.4 kernel with android Oreo. S5 have 3.4 kernel always. And treble is compatible by phones with 4.4 kernel and above. So no treble for s5.
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I heard something about repartitioning, so it doesn't necessarily has to do with the Kernel, it's more like partitioning the device storage, with A/B partitions and stuff with vendor. I heard about a tool that can do that job called REPIT but I didn't do so much of a research of it.
Mi3 with snapdragon 800 on kernel v 3.10 got android p today so is there any hope for our s5s ,can it be ported to our phones like the redmi devs did
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-3-xiaomi-mi-4-xiaomi-redmi-4x-android-pie-ports/
I looked into it.
In order to get Project Treble working on our Samsung Galaxy S5, we would have to :
- Repartition device to have 2 partitions, Vendor & AOSP
1. All vendor-specific blobs should be moved to /vendor
2. Some blobs load config files from /system/etc. Just hex-edit them to load from /vendor/etc instead
3. Label and format that unused new partition as /vendor - this should be automatically done with an OTA script
4. The kernel should mount the new partition as /vendor as well
OR
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr.../tool-capire-le-treble-terble-vendor-t3774629
Without repartitioning?
- Have a 'Treblified' ROM already installed. (I believe we have Oreo ported..)
- Have 8.1 Vendor Blobs? I don't know much about this.
Any dev willing to make this dream a reality, please, step forward!
Rhioun said:
I looked into it.
In order to get Project Treble working on our Samsung Galaxy S5, we would have to :
- Repartition device to have 2 partitions, Vendor & AOSP
1. All vendor-specific blobs should be moved to /vendor
2. Some blobs load config files from /system/etc. Just hex-edit them to load from /vendor/etc instead
3. Label and format that unused new partition as /vendor - this should be automatically done with an OTA script
4. The kernel should mount the new partition as /vendor as well
OR
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr.../tool-capire-le-treble-terble-vendor-t3774629
Without repartitioning?
- Have a 'Treblified' ROM already installed. (I believe we have Oreo ported..)
- Have 8.1 Vendor Blobs? I don't know much about this.
Any dev willing to make this dream a reality, please, step forward!
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Looks nice. It would be great to try. If someone does try please post your experience here!
clockstoper said:
Mi3 with snapdragon 800 on kernel v 3.10 got android p today so is there any hope for our s5s ,can it be ported to our phones like the redmi devs did
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-3-xiaomi-mi-4-xiaomi-redmi-4x-android-pie-ports/
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Xiaomi have a terribke habbit of skipping android versions
Take the MiBox for example, from what i hear it never got an official 7.1.2 only leaked builds, they went from 6.0 to 8.0 and still face quite alot of bugs.
don't know if this is the right place for this but my old moto g 2014 with 3.4 kernel version just got android pi port its very smooth as per the reports, i have not installed it yet as i gave that phone to my mom. the phone runs on with a lowly snapdragon 400 chip and 1gb ram also its kernel version is 3.4 which is the same as our s5s so there might be a good chance android pie can be ported to our device
LINK
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/titan-xperience-13-0-t3830834
did some further searching and found that lenovo zuk z1 also got Pie and it has SD 801 chip like our S5 so things looking quite promising tbh.....
LINK
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z1/orig-development/rom-pixel-experience-t3830494
clockstoper said:
don't know if this is the right place for this but my old moto g 2014 with 3.4 kernel version just got android pi port its very smooth as per the reports, i have not installed it yet as i gave that phone to my mom. the phone runs on with a lowly snapdragon 400 chip and 1gb ram also its kernel version is 3.4 which is the same as our s5s so there might be a good chance android pie can be ported to our device
LINK
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/titan-xperience-13-0-t3830834
did some further searching and found that lenovo zuk z1 also got Pie and it has SD 801 chip like our S5 so things looking quite promising tbh.....
LINK
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z1/orig-development/rom-pixel-experience-t3830494
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Anyone working on 9.0 for S5?
Official Aex devices will get 9.0 soon so yes I presume
The Galaxy S5 (klte) Kernel source on LOS has reportedly submitted comments about LineageOS 16. So we're having our pie soon.
LineageOS 16.0 teaser trailer by haggertk.
Rhioun said:
I looked into it.
In order to get Project Treble working on our Samsung Galaxy S5, we would have to :
- Repartition device to have 2 partitions, Vendor & AOSP
1. All vendor-specific blobs should be moved to /vendor
2. Some blobs load config files from /system/etc. Just hex-edit them to load from /vendor/etc instead
3. Label and format that unused new partition as /vendor - this should be automatically done with an OTA script
4. The kernel should mount the new partition as /vendor as well
OR
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr.../tool-capire-le-treble-terble-vendor-t3774629
Without repartitioning?
- Have a 'Treblified' ROM already installed. (I believe we have Oreo ported..)
- Have 8.1 Vendor Blobs? I don't know much about this.
Any dev willing to make this dream a reality, please, step forward!
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I've heard from the official website of lineage os that they can turn a device into an A/B device, but I am not sure that whether the A/B device is the one that have 2 partitions, here it is (https://lineageos.org/Changelog-19/)
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I've heard from the official website of lineage os that they can turn a device into an A/B device, but I am not sure that whether the A/B device is the one that have 2 partitions, here it is (https://lineageos.org/Changelog-19/)
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Its not as simple as having a/b partitions , there is a kernel issue. a simple google search wich show you guys that there is a minimum kernel version required for treble which the s5 is far and i mean far behind that minimum requirement for treble.
I know this is like off-topic but there is now a project WIP going on for Samsung Galaxy S3 Neo, since it's using 3.4 kernel, we using S5 have luck to support treble. At least if someone willing to do it.
For the AB partition it might be impossible to do so.
Now with pascua28's Intelli-Kernel we're even closer to the dream. This guy has managed to do wonders with this device... The last thing that may happen is him being able to update our Kernel version. I don't know how the A/B partition things work, but from what I've heard it requires a higher Kernel version. The S5 runs 3.4 right now, but with @pascua28 work it may get a higher version soon.
Hi,
Does someone know if WallpaperColors API is planned for A1's android 8.1?
This feature means that changing to dark wallpaper will cause the notification section and etc. to change to dark UI accordingly.
Thanks in advance.
I'd say yes, so far all stock features (and bugs) of 8.0 are present, so most probably features (and bugs) of 8.1 will be included as well.
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I'd say yes, so far all stock features (and bugs) of 8.0 are present, so most probably features (and bugs) of 8.1 will be included as well.
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LOL, i must to agree with your mentioning about 8.0.
Let's hope for proper fixes for known issues, and much more stable update in 8.1..
Thanks anyway
Seeing as the first Android P Preview came out today, I'm wondering what (and how long) it would take to port it to Project Treble compatible devices.
Considering it is closed source, hard to say...
Though many people are on this.
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Considering it is closed source, hard to say...
Though many people are on this.
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Nice to know!
When the source code is usually released? With the official release of the new Android version? In this case we should wait September 2018 for android P...
Can't we just flash GSI of already released pixel images?
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Can't we just flash GSI of already released pixel images?
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Released images are not GSI.
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Released images are not GSI.
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I've learned it from the hard way. I extracted system.img out of newly released pixel.zip. It didn't boot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Considering it is closed source, hard to say...
Though many people are on this.
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does it always go open source only after all dp r released and stable is out?
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does it always go open source only after all dp r released and stable is out?
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Yes
I too have a question. what if the manufacturer no longer updates their device to android P but the device is trebled supported on Android O. will the devs still can update the device to android P and so on?
Because on not trebled enabled devices still getting the latest OS thru custom roms and powered also by snapdragon SoC.
If we gotta wait until the source is released then what's the point of project treble compared to the usual custom rom developement process ? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't treble supposed to allow any device that got a vendor partition to boot any system partition regadless of the hardware used by the given device ?
If I'm not mistaken:
Treble allows for a generic system image to be used. The Android P developer previews are very likely not GSIs: they target a particular vendor configuration. (I wouldn't be surprised to find that they include an updated vendor partition to go along with them.)
A GSI doesn't target a particular device, it targets only the known services specified by a particular release of Android - an Android GSI could theoretically target any specified vendor interface, be it 8.0, 8.1, 9.0, or whatever future interface appears, or even multiple if someone wanted to put in the effort.
That doesn't get past the fact that there is no source for Android P yet, so a GSI can't really be built for it. And the vendor interface doesn't mean that any image will boot on any device - maybe one that depends on a strict subset of what's provided in the vendor interface on a particular device, but I wouldn't be able to grab a Pixel image and load it on a Galaxy S9 or Mate 10 Pro, or otherwise for any mix of devices. They all have dependencies on vendor-specific pieces in their vendor partition, at the very least; there's also /product, /oem, and /odm on the Mate 9, which is also depended upon by it's system.img. A GSI can't depend on the existence of those things, an OEM image can.
Maybe, with a fair bit of work, someone could rip apart the Pixel system image and make a GSI out of it, but P would probably be out before that made significant headway into making it a GSI.
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If I'm not mistaken:
Treble allows for a generic system image to be used. The Android P developer previews are very likely not GSIs: they target a particular vendor configuration. (I wouldn't be surprised to find that they include an updated vendor partition to go along with them.)
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Yup, vendor partition has been updated.
And all your explanation is correct
Are GSIs for future versions of Android going to be released by Google or some other official entity? I thought this was the whole point of Project Treble :|
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Are GSIs for future versions of Android going to be released by Google or some other official entity? I thought this was the whole point of Project Treble :|
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Google does make GSIs available to oems for testing (cts/vts) -- you can find evidence of this in the android-vts google group. I suppose they could make those publicly available, but if they are just stock aosp (with no google apps) they probably don't want to do that yet.
GSIs are a nice outcome of Treble, but that wasn't the main goal.
There is a really good podcast discussing what Treble is over at Android Developers Backstage (episode 75).
Yall need to seriously learn to chill out and enjoy what you have for a second, for real. The P preview is exactly what it is and has always been...a PREVIEW. Just like before when it was only available to nexus devices, it's the same for pixel. Plus, it's highly unstable and buggy as hell right now, and like most previews before this one, a lot of the features will be removed and more added in as time goes.
And to answer your question, ge-n, about what the difference is, it's not an instant invitation to see what Google releases as a preview. For us, our greatest advantage is if you're running a S9 per say (bloated to hell and grossified by their "Samsung experience" aka former TouchWiz) you can get a more stock version if you'd like.
It seems like there's been some movement on this...
How long will we get Stable Treble rom?
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How long will we get Stable Treble rom?
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As long as it takes you to develop one.
Will be interesting to see how the P beta program is distributed since it's a lot of treble devices that's getting it now!