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I got a new LG G2 f320 with 2661 mAmp battery. Yes, it is slightly less (2610mAh) than the international version (3000mAh), but G2 is supposed to have great battery life regardless.
So I tried LP rom and got like 20h battery life. I discharged battery to 0, then charged it till full while the phone was off. Twice. I downgraded to KitKat CloudyG2 2.2 and applied various battery tweaks, mostly those two:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/best-google-play-services-google-search-t2885111
- http://www.reddit.com/r/lgg2/comments/2nag0f/help_me_get_more_battery_life/ (post by madboymatt)
I also disabled LG Health, have GPS on off, WiFi is on only for several minutes per 24 hours and I have Smart Network Xposed mod which switches data off and 2G on whenever the screen is off. I am also in a very good reception area.
Together with automatic airplane mode (between 1am and 8:30am) one would I would imagine this gives decent battery life, right?
Wrong.
I get ~22 hours battery life with 1h 30 min Screen on time. I doubt this is normal. I got better results with my old S4 Mini with worn down battery.
Tell me this is not normal and I do not have unrealistic expectations.
BetterBatteryStats tells me that the phone is in deep sleep for 17+ hours. The only partial kernel wakelocks that rise some minor suspicions are:
Checkin Service, count 419
RILJ, count 12 000 (I suppose this is normal as it is radio?)
BlockBeforeSleep, count 2300 (I have no idea what it is and I could not find any information about it here on XDA))
What is going on and what else can I do?
This is not normal...
I get 5 to 7 hours of screen on time on my d802.
After flashing a new rom, wait a day or two before testing battery - it may be doing some initial processing.
Try without your various battery optimising tricks, they should not be necessary to get reasonable battery time.
Try checking with gsam app, maybe it will reveal something that bbb doesn't.
I have been using this rom since over a week now so it should settle by now, and disabling battery optimisation tricks can only hurt the battery life.
I start to think that the battery might be bad. Is there some way to check whether its original and what is its real capacity?
So I had Nougat ever since it came out and used it a lot, but went back to Marshmallow a couple of days ago because of:
...Battery life. No matter what apps, settings, versions (B360, B380, B381), recommendations etc. - Battery life is simply better and more reliable on Marshmallow. Yes, I know, I did factory resets, downgrade, upgrade via OTA, deactivated this and that, pretty much everything you read on the threads here and elsewhere, it still couldn't catch up to Marshmallow. Don't get me wrong, battery life on Nougat is not terrible - I even convinced myself over the months that it is pretty much the same or even better, but that's simply just wishful thinking. As soon as I downgraded I could notice a significant improvement.
What do I mean by improvement? For once it is more reliable meaning I know what I get. On Nougat I had days where I got 3 hours SOT, then 4 or 5 on others. I had 2 percent stanby drain per hour, then 5, then 1 - it was just more random. On Marshmallow I always get pretty much the same. Stanby drain of 1 percent or less per hour and SOT of 6 or more hours (I'm at 3:40 SOT at the moment with 18 hours and 45 minutes since the last charge and exactly 50 percent battery left). So not only is it more reliable, it also gives me more SOT and lower standby drain.
Regarding the standby drain: When installing apps like ForceDoze on Marshmallow, it lets the device enter Deep Doze the minute I turn off the phone (meaning I often have deep doze rates of above 98%) which leads to little to almost no standby drain without losing any benefits (notifications still come through when added to the whitelist). Deep sleeps rates are also above 90 percent. With Nougat deeps sleep rates are only around 80 percent (given the same apps, settings etc.) and doze rates are much worse. Yes, I know all about light and deep doze, but light doze doesn't start until 5 minutes after the device is turned off (even with apps like ForceDoze) and those 5 minutes add up, especially if you are checking your device often. Also, it doesn't enter deep doze which arguably consumes less power until much later (often hours) and there is also no way I could change that with ForceDoze or Greenify. What's more, the ForceDoze setting of "ignore device movement" actually works on Marshmallow but didn't reliably work on Nougat meaning the deivce enters and stays in deep doze the minute you turn off your phone even if you are moving or driving etc. This made the difference between Marshmallow and Nougat even greater for me when driving or walking around town.
One additional thing I noticed. is that Android System and Kernel (Android OS) usage was higher on Nougat than on Marshmallow, which also worsened battery life on Nougat for me. Again, this could be reliably replicated with the same apps, settings etc.
Granted, everything else is pretty much better on Nougat (speed, UI, notification bar, lock-screen, security updates, additional features etc.), but if you value battery life above everyhing else (which I do), I still think Marshmallow is the best on the Honor 8 and, frankly, I don't see the point of updating to a newer version of Android if it doesn't come with at least the same battery life, as it is one of the most central features of a phone. I don't know and don't really care whether it's Nougat itself or Honor, I just hope that eventually (maybe with B38X or B39X), battery life will fully match that of Marshmallow. What do you guys think? What's your experience?
I never used MM longer than a day or two before upgrading to N, so I can't comment on which is better, but I can confirm that (with N) I've seen random days where the battery drain is unreal during standby, and other days when it hardly drains at all during standby. But ever since I performed a factory reset after upgrading to N, the drain has been very predictable. Standby drain is minimal and SOT is 6+ hrs. Hard for me to complain when I couldn't get that much SOT from the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact on KK, and that was a battery champ! I finally feel like I'm getting the newest features and great battery life at the same time.
You need a choice for people who never used MM in your pole to make it more accurate.
My wife just got her Honor 8 today. It's on Marshmallow. Mine is on the latest Nogat. Each update killed my battery life not significantly but noticably. I can relate to you wanting to downgrade.
While I never had an Honor 8 with Marshmallow, I was about to update her phone to the latest until I saw this thread and am glad I didn't. If Oreo fixes battery life issues, I'll happily update both our phones to it.
For her, this is her first Android and is coming from Apple. Last thing I wanna do is give her an excuse (battery life is a great one) to go back to Apple.
And the funny thing is....she doesn't care about the app tray like most of us Android users lol
Let's see how this pans out!
tiguy99 said:
My wife just got her Honor 8 today. It's on Marshmallow. Mine is on the latest Nogat. Each update killed my battery life not significantly but noticably. I can relate to you wanting to downgrade.
While I never had an Honor 8 with Marshmallow, I was about to update her phone to the latest until I saw this thread and am glad I didn't. If Oreo fixes battery life issues, I'll happily update both our phones to it.
For her, this is her first Android and is coming from Apple. Last thing I wanna do is give her an excuse (battery life is a great one) to go back to Apple.
And the funny thing is....she doesn't care about the app tray like most of us Android users lol
Let's see how this pans out!
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An older battery compared to a new one. One lasts longer, that's so crazy to think batteries might depreciate over time. ?
I bet you think you can kill your battery by leaving it plugged in too.
agraceful said:
An older battery compared to a new one. One lasts longer, that's so crazy to think batteries might depreciate over time. ?
I bet you think you can kill your battery by leaving it plugged in too.
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I like this guy.
Good to see there's still a few "passionate battery life" folks left on XDA.
I was almost starting to forget how good it felt to run into another one of you.
Keep hope alive my brother!
Keep hope alive
After upgrading to Nougat (clan install, wipe, etc) my baterry is really worst. It is like 30-60 min less SoT than before and 60-90min less active phone, with same config, same apps, etc. Also, the phone is a lot less awake than before. After 1 year of waiting can't believe this...
How about the rest?
NahuelMS said:
After upgrading to Nougat (clan install, wipe, etc) my baterry is really worst. It is like 30-60 min less SoT than before and 60-90min less active phone, with same config, same apps, etc. Also, the phone is a lot less awake than before. After 1 year of waiting can't believe this...
How about the rest?
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Dude you guys have to let the update settle in..you won't get accurate battery usage for at least 5 or 6 charge discharge cycles.
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Dude you guys have to let the update settle in..you won't get accurate battery usage for at least 5 or 6 charge discharge cycles.
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Dude, hate this kind of things. Why you think i am dumb enougth to post this without letting the battery settle down? I did the upgrade two weeks ago and have at least 30-40 full charges-discharge cycles because i use the phone a lot and now have to charge it like 3 times a day. Also do the 0 to 100% calibration a lot of times and also use the normal charger too to compare. I use Gsam battery monitor to keep tracking the battery and the media values and keep my M.M. data stored to compare later. So, please, if you don't want to help me or post how is your battery life compare please don't make this kind of post thinking the other ones are dumb people or not understand how battery work on android.
Thanks, best regards.
It seems the radios are much less efficient in Nougat than Marshmallow when the signal is below average... is GSAM showing your radio with very high percentage of battery usage? Not much we can do about that, but some users have stated with poor signal the radios are using 30% of the battery and more (where in MM it was 5-10% when signal was poor). No fix yet and flashing MM radios doesn't seem to improve it, probably have to wait for an update. :/
If that doesn't explain it, try a cache wipe, then a factory reset... I am getting to a point I am recommending a factory reset for EVERYONE on this OTA, lots of weird little bugs that seem to be cleared up on a factory reset.
Impossible to believe but 7.0 is giving best battery life when compared to 6.0.
After updating to official nougat through ota moto x style (indian version) getting best battery performance. Getting around 4.5 to 5 hours on full cycle. Due to network error not able to post pictures.
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It seems the radios are much less efficient in Nougat than Marshmallow when the signal is below average... is GSAM showing your radio with very high percentage of battery usage? Not much we can do about that, but some users have stated with poor signal the radios are using 30% of the battery and more (where in MM it was 5-10% when signal was poor). No fix yet and flashing MM radios doesn't seem to improve it, probably have to wait for an update. :/
If that doesn't explain it, try a cache wipe, then a factory reset... I am getting to a point I am recommending a factory reset for EVERYONE on this OTA, lots of weird little bugs that seem to be cleared up on a factory reset.
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The most weird thing is that the % are the same as with M.M. so can figure out why it is drainning battery. Only a lot less time held awake from the kernell and a little bit more from screen. I tried wiping the cache like 10 times. Install and uninnstall google play services, also tried the play services beta to see if it is gettint better.
Also always do a factory reset after the install of an new OS to avoid problens, so it is a clean install. Another thing I notice is the unlinear behaviour of the battery. Maybe from 100 to 75 got 2 SoT screen time and from 75 to 10 got 1 hour.
Aniway I noticed what you are saying about the low signal drain. Last nigth i was in a place with almost no signal and the cellphone in standby mode drain like 40% in an hour.
For the others who has better battery i can't understand why i am getting less battery. I use it in the same way as marshmallow. Also i read other people having battery problems too. I will have to disable all moto features to see if i get an improvement.
Thanks to all!
Today i restart my phone. It was in 84% and after the reboot wen to 74%. Maybe the update ruinned my battery life? Really don't now what to do... I can try to change the battery but the phone is 9 month old... Anyone with a idea?
Edit: Further testing show me that everytime i reboot my phone i get a different % of battery. Also same usage get to really different battery results.
I'm getting ~2.25-2.5 hours of SOT. I've my 4G sim enabled for about 6-7 hours with mediocre signal strength. So not a good improvement over MM but that maybe because of 4G data. I need to check how it performs with only WiFi.
After Nougat update, I get about 15-20 minutes more SOT
Facing poor battery life since last 3-4 days. I had factory resetted the phone but nothing helped
Earlier I used to get around 6-7 hours of SOT on with wifi on and moderate usage. Now I hardly get around 4.5-5 hours with same usage.
Anyone facing such issue?
Any news that the feb update will solve the battery drain issue?
Same here. I am barely getting 3hrs SOT. 7000000.ssusb is keeping phone awake and it doesn't go in deep sleep mode.
Facing same issue, guessing this device was a wrong choice for me! ?
Mine arrived today. Downloading the 1000mb update. Must be Oreo?
Have you performed procedures to conserve battery life?
How to ... Disable Check Wizard (wi-fi and bluetooth), Disable sending of analyzes to Mi, restrict data usage of apps in the background and remove vibration from the keyboard.
What version of android?
Try to install BBS (better battery stats) to determine what is the cause of your battery drain.
In my case i had activated erroneously wifi scanning under geolocalization option and it's a big battery hog.
Where is that in menu exactly?
assuming you are on android 8 it can be found under geolocalization --> search, while in android 7 it is under geolocalization-->upper right corner three dots-->search
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BBS can be used without root privileges, just read here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67819528&postcount=4
Same issue
it went down from 8 hours sot to just barely 5 after oreo downgrade.
I have no issues whatsoever with battery life on this phone. As a matter of fact, I often get over one day's usage out of it.
Run the battery analysis programs instead of whingeing on here.
I have posted screenshot of my problem below. I have flashed ROM multiple times and still the battery drain won't stop. It went away for some days and I was getting 5hrs sot but now again the problem has started. No idea why.
"PLEASE ADVISE ME WHAT I CAN DO"
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I have posted screenshot of my problem below. I have flashed ROM multiple times and still the battery drain won't stop. It went away for some days and I was getting 5hrs sot but now again the problem has started. No idea why.
"PLEASE ADVISE ME WHAT I CAN DO"
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Those pics say you're getting 12 hours of battery since last charge and are at 23%.
Talking about SOT which is way less as i barely used phone. It's basically like battery being drained for no reason at night. Look at system using all the battery.Is that normal?
ArpanTT said:
Facing poor battery life since last 3-4 days. I had factory resetted the phone but nothing helped
Earlier I used to get around 6-7 hours of SOT on with wifi on and moderate usage. Now I hardly get around 4.5-5 hours with same usage.
Anyone facing such issue?
Any news that the feb update will solve the battery drain issue?
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Install Accu battery from play store then check your notification, normal average consumption between -150 and -400, if more then check the app to see which app drain your battery
Facing poor battery life since last 3-4 days. I had factory resetted the phone but nothing helped
Earlier I used to get around 6-7 hours of SOT on with wifi on and moderate usage. Now I hardly get around 4.5-5 hours with same usage.
Anyone facing such issue?
This issue facing oct 2019 update.
will solve
anjuanna said:
Facing poor battery life since last 3-4 days. I had factory resetted the phone but nothing helped
Earlier I used to get around 6-7 hours of SOT on with wifi on and moderate usage. Now I hardly get around 4.5-5 hours with same usage.
Anyone facing such issue?
This issue facing oct 2019 update.
will solve
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Why "copy and paste" the first post of a thread from Feb 2018?
prabhjot-singh said:
Facing same issue, guessing this device was a wrong choice for me! ?
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I'm using this MiA1 since Sep 2017, and it's flawless with Android 8.1.0 Nov 2018.
You have a BAD OS (Pie), not really suitable for this phone. I'm getting more than 80% of the time (of Screen Off state) as Deep Sleep Mode. Depending on the usage, 80% charged battery is giving me 30-40 hrs with 10% SoT.
Our immature/childish attitude to anything FREE and the LATEST, and greedily grabbing it, makes us miserable.
We forget the old Adage: "A Bird in Hand is worth Two in the Bush"
Hello,
I am an LG fan (mainly due to the always-on display and the reliable tap to wake/sleep functions which I find tremendously useful) and since the G7 was launched (too big of a phone and too small battery for my needs) I decided that the G6 may actually fit my needs better due to being smaller and having a bigger battery (and the perfectly flat screen of the G6 which allows me to use an invisible tempered glass protector).
But I'm worried about battery life, especially stand-by. I need a phone that lasts 2 days with like 2-3h of SOT (I don't use the phone much but I really need it to have low standby drain). From what I read until now, the standby drain is a bit of a hit and miss with the G6...
I was wondering if the new Oreo release brings any improvements in standby drain ? Does anyone have experience with it ?
Thanks !
Idle battery drain mainly depends on the apps you use and whether they sleep ok or misbehave. I can use my G6 for 2 days...
call me pessimistic, but i never had better battery life after my phone was updated to the next release of software. It could be partially because battery life was depleted after long period of waiting for updates. I can say that with Samsung S8 and Sony and HTC10, it was definitely a case. I do not expect miracle with G6 either.
will be happy if someone can show me otherwise
Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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You may have some bad apps. I never loose more than 3-5% over night with wifi on.
i have G600L from Korea, and i can assure that Oreo has not had any improvements on standby drain. Well the good thing is that it doesn't get any worse.
That has been my experience with other phones as well. Even if some new battery saving technique is built into the new OS, it is more than compensated for by the bloat of the new OS and updated apps, which have more services running in the background.
barcode99 said:
call me pessimistic, but i never had better battery life after my phone was updated to the next release of software. It could be partially because battery life was depleted after long period of waiting for updates. I can say that with Samsung S8 and Sony and HTC10, it was definitely a case. I do not expect miracle with G6 either.
will be happy if someone can show me otherwise
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Moldeb said:
Idle battery drain mainly depends on the apps you use and whether they sleep ok or misbehave. I can use my G6 for 2 days...
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On average, people in this forum have been reporting idle battery drain of 2-3% per hour. However there is quite a bit of variation both day to day in the same device and between devices. You have been one of the lucky ones, most likely having nothing to do with what apps or settings you do or don't use. 2 seperate threads have been devoted to dealing with the problem, but nothing consistently helps. Most likely either a hardware issue, like the radio cycling hi or low power, or something in Nougat that LG might or might not fix (according to the post above they did not...)
Regarding "misbehaving" apps-- basically almost every useful app has that potential, since so much functionality of the smartphone revolves around the ability to multitask or run in the background. So if you want to leave the phone with only stock apps, install nothing, and block all syncing, reminders or notifications, I'm sure you can modestly reduce the idle drain, but so what? It negates the whole point of the smartphone... I remember I could get a whole week out of my Nokia 3150 candybar phone
I'd be interested to learn which apps you have and what settings you changed.
I loose about 3% over night with WiFi, BT and location = high precision. I have and use many apps (>120) but most of them are productivity tools, VPN, etc. I use only ad free and many paid apps e.g. Maildroid pro for email. Maybe ad free is one of the reasons as I'll have less background activity. On the other hand my Voip client (Grandstream Wave) is always on and I still have no idle issue...
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i have G600L from Korea, and i can assure that Oreo has not had any improvements on standby drain. Well the good thing is that it doesn't get any worse.
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Did you have problems with battery drain on Nougat? How much did you loose over night with Nougat, how much now with Oreo?
Krysdyan said:
Did you have problems with battery drain on Nougat? How much did you loose over night with Nougat, how much now with Oreo?
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
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Moldeb said:
I loose about 3% over night with WiFi, BT and location = high precision. I have and use many apps (>120) but most of them are productivity tools, VPN, etc. I use only ad free and many paid apps e.g. Maildroid pro for email. Maybe ad free is one of the reasons as I'll have less background activity. On the other hand my Voip client (Grandstream Wave) is always on and I still have no idle issue...
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Interesting that there are such huge differences between users. I do have a few ad supported apps, maybe that explains part of the difference.
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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I loose around 5% with wifi on and have pretty good signal on wifi and mobile data. I listen to music for 30 minutes before sleeping with external bluetooth speakers. But BT is disabling automatically after that.
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1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
1% whole night
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Hello everyone! how do you reach certain levels of autonomy? I have a few apps on my smartphone and yet I dream of your values, how do you do it? do you have any special settings? have you run any particular command in ADB? I noticed that my phone is particularly slow on startup and once turned on (with 0 apps open) it has a use of RAM. more than 50%, is it normal?
thank you
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jshames said:
1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
1% whole night
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Wow, that's a huge difference from 2-3% an hour....
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screen saver is the issue
setting-->display-->screen saver. Turn that off if you are still in andriod 7.0.
I did that after saw someone's post, and my one year old LG G6 back to normal battery condition. Now I can get 20% remain by 10PM at night, after start using it since 6AM, with regular web browering, gaming and video viewing.
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pham_dang said:
Wow, that's a huge difference from 2-3% an hour....
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When I leave mine at 100% charge before going to bed at night, it's still at 100% the morning after. So, a 1% change the whole night is not bad (nor extra-ordinary).
I have my wifi and bluetooth always on. But I don't have the screen at "always on" setting. My email sync settings are on "smart" mode. Other installed apps which may run in the background are News app, GroupMe, My Data Manager, and NetGuard.
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setting-->display-->screen saver. Turn that off if you are still in andriod 7.0.
I did that after saw someone's post, and my one year old LG G6 back to normal battery condition. Now I can get 20% remain by 10PM at night, after start using it since 6AM, with regular web browering, gaming and video viewing.
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That's strange. That setting is supposed to apply only when the phone is plugged in
Percy247 said:
Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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10 months old H870DS, HKG firmware, no battery degradation because with nougat I charged it at 1.5 to 2 days. 2 SIM cards standby, 4G networks, active use of the phone and I was getting around 3h SOT with a 20-24h standby. Now after Oreo I'm getting max 2.5, under 3h SOT with the same 24h standby. I did a factory reset after upgrading via LG Bridge, and did a upgrade with LG UP and kdz V20a - no change at all. I suppose that the system is draining more battery than it should under use.View attachment 4526726
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