My HTC 10 battery is getting progressively worse. I've purchased a Moto Z Play (Swappa listed as unlocked, but it was Verizon, returned), and a LG V20 (Swappa listed as US996 Unlocked, but it was US Cellular, returning). I don't think I can live with the crappy audio output or crappy camera on the Moto Z. So which V20 model should I get? I am on AT&T.
I saw runningnak3d has a way to root the H910 even if it has an anti-rollback patch. So any H910 I buy should be rootable, correct?
I prefer stock'ish ROMs, nothing all that fancy, just battery optimized and debloated. Need the Quad DAC to work and the camera to function well.
I'd like to be able to upgrade to Oreo and stay rooted, but it's not a deal breaker. My HTC 10 for instance is still running MM because Xposed is flawless on MM.
I don't live in a major metropolitan area but having the B30 band would be nice.
So H910, US996 unlocked, or any other model?
US996 is also known as US Cellular for some reason, but it works the same AFAIK.
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Hello all!
On T-Mobile Simple Choice plan in the US. LG V20 US996 64GB model. Android 7.0.
(I have multiple screenshots to share but XDA says I need to have 10 posts before sharing links. I have another thread up on /r/LGV20 with a link to some images)
Recently purchased the US996 model off Amazon to replace my defective Nexus 6P. I read on LG's site that it should support bands 2, 4 and 12 which T-Mobile uses. So far, I love the camera, performance and battery life. Aside from that, I am having some network issues.
1. Device always stays connected to Band 4 AWS1. Not connected to bands 2 and 12.
2. LTE coverage overall is sporadic. usually stays on 4G HSPA+ (doesn't show LTE in top-right next to cell reception meter, though it does show LTE in Network Cell Info app).
3. Wi-Fi calling/VoLTE is not working.
Has anyone else reported these issues? Do I need to flash the T-Mobile H918 firmware?
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4. I'm still on 7.0, has 7.1.2 been released for the V20?
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7.1.2 hasnt been released on stock for any device. however android 7.1.2 is running on emotion os
loguhn said:
7.1.2 hasnt been released on stock for any device. however android 7.1.2 is running on emotion os
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My Nexus 6P was running 7.1.2. are you referring to on-nexus devices?
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My Nexus 6P was running 7.1.2. are you referring to on-nexus devices?
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sorry, i shouldve specified for just the v20, im running 7.1.2 on my v20 through emotion os
I had similar issues with the unlocked US version of the LG G5 (RS988). Even though it is listed as having band 12, I was unable to get it to connect to band 12 on T-Mobile. When I was in 'Extended LTE' (band 12-only) areas, I would be roaming while a T-Mobile Galaxy S7 would have a full T-Mobile LTE signal. In the network settings, the phone wouldn't even see the T-Mobile LTE RAT.
I think it likely that T-Mobile or LG were preventing a band 12 connection due to a lack of VOLTE certification. T-Mobile has required manufacturers to disable band 12 on other unlocked phones that did not have VOLTE certification in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same with this model.
New question. Can I flash my phone with the H918 (T-Mobile's version) firmware?
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New question. Can I flash my phone with the H918 (T-Mobile's version) firmware?
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Ever get an answer for that??? I just had a US996 land in my lap.
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Ever get an answer for that??? I just had a US996 land in my lap.
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Nope, you'll end up with a brick. The H918 has a different firmware key than any of the other models, so flashing h918 firmware onto anything else results in a brick, and an h918 flashing any other model firmware results in a brick.
You could try flashing the US Cellular US996 firmware though, and see if it makes a difference. The USC firmware is very much cross-flashable on the unlocked US996 (as far as I know, a lot of people crossflash for the security updates as the unlocked model is behind by quite a bit).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/rom-us99610k-stock-rom-twrp-flashable-t3691784
Well at this point I think I'll just sell this US996 and buy an H918.
Looking at Swappa prices I could probably practically get two H918's for this thing. It's practically Mint and has a 10kWH ZeroLemon battery and case. Only thing I'm not sure about is the message that pops up when you start it warning that the bootloader is unlocked... is that bad or a desired feature?
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gmolds said:
Well at this point I think I'll just sell this US996 and buy an H918.
Looking at Swappa prices I could probably practically get two H918's for this thing. It's practically Mint and has a 10kWH ZeroLemon battery and case. Only thing I'm not sure about is the message that pops up when you start it warning that the bootloader is unlocked... is that bad or a desired feature?
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Scratch that question... -- I'm guessing most would want it unlocked to put root/roms on it.
I've made a mistake. I bought a US996 after seeing it for sale on Newegg for $379. I thought, "Awesome! I can replace my busted N6P."
I'm finding out now a couple months later that TMO didn't certify it for VoLTE/WiFi Calling and is incompatible with B12, despite listing B12 in its specs.
So, what I'd like to know is if I can flash the firmware of TMO's version H918 on my US996? If so, would this open up my network coverage? Surely the antennas themselves are in the phone and just need to be enabled on the software level, yes?
I'm getting a little tired of not being able to make any calls from my house and TMO won't send me an LTE cellspot since I'm prepaid.
No, you would turn your phone into a smoldering pile....
You are correct however that if you could get the modem firmware onto the phone, you would have B12, but the H918 and the US996 have a different SHA1 hash in the CPU, so you can't flash firmware between them.
You really caught a raw deal -- as far as I know, of all the V20s, the H918 has a unique SHA1, and the US996 is unique, and then there is every other model.
-- Brian
I have always owned either Nexus (non-LG versions) or Samsung so I'm not really familiar with LG products. I'm going to get a V20 and the question now is which one? Is there any difference in the DAC in the H990DS version vs the North American versions? I've heard that the H990DS is the official B&O version and the North American ones are "tuned by B&O". The quad DAC is one of the reasons why I want this phone so if there is a significant difference I may consider it. If not, I'll probably go with the US996 unlocked version or the AT&T version.
The US996 will cost me slightly more but the unlockable bootloader may be worth it. I'm in Canada and the AT&T bands are close to ours and generally work well with our carriers. so the H910A will be OK. AFAIK the second SIM in the H990DS only supports 2G so that will be useless to me since 2 out of 3 of our largest carriers were originally CDMA and never supported 2G. Both of the North American versions do come with a warranty, which is a bonus. The AT&T is the cheapest of the three but I have heard that their bootloader is a pain.
An unlockable bootloader and the ability to root is the most important. I'm going to keep it until it dies. Music quality and warranty is next. I do love music and I plan to invest in a good set of new headphones once I get the V20. I want to take it with me and test several so I don't have anything in particular in mind at this time.
I appreciate any help and guidance that anyone can give me. I have spent a lot of time trying to find out about the DACs and I really can't find any information. Thank you!
I have a VZW (Verizon for anyone searching on that, too) G6. It's unlocked. The bootloader might be unlocked about the time hell freezes over.
What I want is Nougat working as it does stock. I want root for TI and V4A (maybe needs SELinux tool to get to permissive), plus a couple of other toys. I want a phone that operates with VZW and also in Europe.
Is there a way to root this phone? (Searching on VZW produced one panic msg about a sprint phone locking every night and that's it?)
Unfortunately the only variant with root are US997 Unbranded (without any letter) and the European H870.
Sigh... The H870, I suspect, doesn't handle CDMA, right?
Nope. But the US997 should accordin to LG Official Website
The non-branded G6 does, indeed, allow unlocking the bootloader. NTL, since this whole exercise hinges on getting my wife a phone that can be unlocked (she doesn't care about it, I do), I've taken another route (with a "u"). I have an old G5 that, I thought, had a failing screen. To date, it's been fine. And it's better than the current taped together Droid. Yes, tape around the bottom to keep ther top from coming off(!). So much for the G6.
Bottom line: End of question. Thanks for the input. I appreciate the help.
Answer: In the US only the US997 unbranded version (buy direct from the factory) can have the bootloader unlocked. European, GSM-only phones can be unlocked but won't work in the US with CDMA carriers like Verizon.
Hello. I need an advice. I am planing to buy an unlocked LG G6 but I am thinking between H871 At&T and H870. H871 is 50us$ cheaper, but because I live in Europe I'm not sure will I be able to get updates without active at&t sim. I have G4 H810 and I cannot update because I have no active at&t sim. Will I have same problem on H871? Any advice?
Is it that H871 operates on different frequencies and LTE may not work? http://www.phonemore.com/lg-g6-h871/specs/3247
While reading G6 forum, I have noticed that all "improvements" all modifications are for (mostly) H870. and as you said, you live in Europe, why risk it?
Yes and off-course, as adamsek said, you must be aware of different frequencies.
H870, the price difference will cover better reception and bootloader unlock.
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H870, the price difference will cover better reception and bootloader unlock.
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And warranty !
It does seem that because I am not using an AT&T sim, I cannot get any updates. Best to get H870 with updates and root possibilities.
Don't forget that G6 will certainly never get Oreo.
Are you sure? I've rea something different: G6 is in Android Recommended Devices list, so LG has to roll out Oreo, and has said that will do this in Q2 2018.