Custom Roms: Nougat vs MM - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

For those who tested both version of custom roms, what u guys liked and did not liked?
i'm new here and i already tested invicta, rr, viper and aex (aex is the best so far). i will test some mm custom roms for now

luisfelipee said:
For those who tested both version of custom roms, what u guys liked and did not liked?
i'm new here and i already tested invicta, rr, viper and aex (aex is the best so far). i will test some mm custom roms for now
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I believe Nougat ROMs will be better than Marshmallow ROMs.
Just one reason, time gap between release of G4/G4+ and Nougat is nearly 3 months (so development period will be less than 3 months), when actual development of custom ROMs was started, little after Nougat was announced. So developers haven't got enough time for development of MM. There will be device specific bugs.
I have tried OrionOS, it was fine!

luisfelipee said:
For those who tested both version of custom roms, what u guys liked and did not liked?
i'm new here and i already tested invicta, rr, viper and aex (aex is the best so far). i will test some mm custom roms for now
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I had tried invicta, rr, aosp extended, viper, aex too, then vanadium, telsa, los. I preferred rr for its customization capability and los for stability. Aosp for simplicity but los is there.
All i had tried were nougat based, and i was not liking mm as there were no significant update in there after lollipop (a major one).

Specific to Moto G4+, the device was introduced at a time when Nougat was nearing official release, so custom ROM development for Athene obviously started with MM - the version phones were shipped out with. Within a few months (Nov 2016 ish) Nougat overtook as the preferred Android version for both devs and users, across LOS and AOSP based roms. This was mainly due to Nougat offering considerable improvement over MM, which just as the last post points out, was merely a refinement of Lollipop.
IME, those who stuck with MM were mostly ones who couldn't do without Xposed, or prolly were ones who cautiously waited for an official firmware upgrade by Lenovo.
Based on my own experience, I find RR N to be far superior than RR M, in terms of performance and stability both. The fact that customization options which lie at core of RR didn't change much over the two Android versions should further point to why N is preferable over MM.
Invicta's fate sadly hangs in uncertainty and that is a huge loss given SileshNair consistently worked to get us stock-rom level stability and robustness on super feature rich ROMs.
Unless you're particular about being on the latest Android version, currently the best combination would be RR N whose recent version come shipped with Spectrum to let you choose the gov profile of your choice. Or you can go step further and get flar2's legendary ElementalX to tweak your phone all the way up! Plus with official Xposed N and rapidly updated stable mods , you can have best of all worlds - performance, features, battery life and functionality.
Tho I did switch over to Invicta Oreo a fortnight ago, I can still vouch for RR N + ElementalX + xposed (with greenify, amplify, xposed edge et al) combo to be most rewarding.

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Best rom for athene

What do you think the best rom for the moto g4 plus is in terms of battery life and performance. And which rom would give the best battery life for a light user
I tried most of them, and I think stock is best.
I have my setup with magisk: systemless xposed and superuser.
using vanir, that or stock best for me.
RR 5.8.0 is very good in battery life out of the box, I'm using it for 5-7 sot for nearly 2 days(no gaming, no stream,Bluetooth, WiFi, flight mode over night)
For the simplest experience, don't look away from Stock.
Or you can go with RR 5.8.0. That's an awesome ROM for customization freaks.
I tried a few, but Resurrection Remix 5.8.0 is best so far.
Good battery life, rooted out-of-the-box, all features I tried actually worked.
I have a canadian 1641, retail, and have NOT upgraded my modem to the N version yet.
For me the rom has been xenon hd it's great has reasonable battery life around 5 hrs sot and it is smooth AF.
Stock ROM here. Stable, no issues. Systemless rooted SuperSU, added XtremeMusic mod and Dolby Atmos (same thread).
trsix said:
using vanir, that or stock best for me.
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Im also using vanir but after upgrading to latest build battery draining fast.. any idea why this happening..?
Stock, Xposed, and maybe custom Kernel
I agree with stock. A little tweaking and stock is hard to beat.
Of you want a stable daily driver then stock can't be beat. Rooted makes it even better. Tried all the roms and they aren't good enough for daily drivers for me. Until an official rom, PAC was and has always been the second best to stock in my opinion.
I tried XPerience and Resurrection Remix, both for about a week, but I returned to rooted stock with ElementX kernel. That is the most stable setup I have found so far. Best battery life too.
Resurrection Remix hands down, been on it since the day it got released. Yes, it is a feature rich ROM and can let you customize in innumerable ways, and yet won't cost you in terms of performance and battery life.
Motor G4+ has official status to its RR ROM which means support from the Xda thread and RR devs as well.
Having tried quite a few Nougat ROMs on the Moto G4+ forum, can vouch for RR's stability. How about not having a single freeze, boot loop or auto restart since past two weeks I've been on it?
You can check its support thread, you'd have to look hard for reported bugs. In all the years of using custom ROMs, this ought to be one of the rare cases.
And it comes prebaked with kernel based on ElementalX, which means you get not only the kernel but can also tweak and optimize it with EX Kernel Manager, just as you'd do on stock.
As for the battery, I'm getting between 6 and 6.5 hours SOT with moderate - heavy use (streaming Spotify over VPN included)
Also, Xposed for Nougat is still nowhere in sight, which means having to wait still longer for the mods to be updated for 7.0 and 7.1. So, having a highly functional and feature rich ROM that can offer at least some of the functionality and customization of Xposed mods, is where RR wins over other custom ROMs.
Here's my current configuration on my XT1643:
RR 5.8.0 + SuperSU 2.78SR5 + ARISE Deuteronomy alpha with Dolby Atmos add on + Patched Adfree background playback YouTube + NoChromo adfree browser + Greenify Donation (sucks without xposed but nevermind)
Though I've not tried, but users confirm running (some) Substratum themes as well.
Future updates should get CMTE support as well, just in case.
I guess there's still lot more customization that can be done along with finding patched/alternative apps that Xposed mods would take care of other wise.
And yes, MotoG4+ is now officially supported for dualboot patcher, meaning you can boot into different ROMs which significantly expands scope of how you can use your device.
Lastly, all that's mentioned above is from Xda itself which means not only can you trust what you're doing to your phone, in case you do screw up you'd still have good chance to salvage yourself.
Sent from my Google Pixel XL using XDA Labs
vaibhavplays said:
What do you think the best rom for the moto g4 plus is in terms of battery life and performance. And which rom would give the best battery life for a light user
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Id say stock with your criteria. I have only tried several versions of CM 14.1 myself but if I remember correctly the battery felt as if it was lasting longer on stock 6.0. The experience after dealing with several reflashes and getting used to that process is a bit hard but the system I use now feels allot faster. I can only guess that the better performance comes at the cost of battery usage.
Frances91 said:
Resurrection Remix hands down, been on it since the day it got released. Yes, it is a feature rich ROM and can let you customize in innumerable ways, and yet won't cost you in terms of performance and battery life.
Motor G4+ has official status to its RR ROM which means support from the Xda thread and RR devs as well.
Having tried quite a few Nougat ROMs on the Moto G4+ forum, can vouch for RR's stability. How about not having a single freeze, boot loop or auto restart since past two weeks I've been on it?
You can check its support thread, you'd have to look hard for reported bugs. In all the years of using custom ROMs, this ought to be one of the rare cases.
And it comes prebaked with kernel based on ElementalX, which means you get not only the kernel but can also tweak and optimize it with EX Kernel Manager, just as you'd do on stock.
As for the battery, I'm getting between 6 and 6.5 hours SOT with moderate - heavy use (streaming Spotify over VPN included)
Also, Xposed for Nougat is still nowhere in sight, which means having to wait still longer for the mods to be updated for 7.0 and 7.1. So, having a highly functional and feature rich ROM that can offer at least some of the functionality and customization of Xposed mods, is where RR wins over other custom ROMs.
Here's my current configuration on my XT1643:
RR 5.8.0 + SuperSU 2.78SR5 + ARISE Deuteronomy alpha with Dolby Atmos add on + Patched Adfree background playback YouTube + NoChromo adfree browser + Greenify Donation (sucks without xposed but nevermind)
Though I've not tried, but users confirm running (some) Substratum themes as well.
Future updates should get CMTE support as well, just in case.
I guess there's still lot more customization that can be done along with finding patched/alternative apps that Xposed mods would take care of other wise.
And yes, MotoG4+ is now officially supported for dualboot patcher, meaning you can boot into different ROMs which significantly expands scope of how you can use your device.
Lastly, all that's mentioned above is from Xda itself which means not only can you trust what you're doing to your phone, in case you do screw up you'd still have good chance to salvage yourself.
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Thanks a lot man I have switched to RR I am not getting 6-7 hrs sot but I am getting around 5 hrs. Thanks for your detailed answer.:good:
Okay I have a question every nougat ROM I install I cannot get my hotspot to come up no problem with marshmallow
How can i install Ressurection Remix on my moto g4 plus..?? Give me a explained procedure for it
Azharansari said:
How can i install Ressurection Remix on my moto g4 plus..?? Give me a explained procedure for it
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I guess you did not read, search and you're also rude. That's not the way you should request something on XDA.
Did you ever installed a custom rom? If not, please take your time and learn basics BEFORE going further with installing ressurection remix. Otherwise you will run into big trouble.
Ok sorry for that..?

Stock ROM vs Custom ROM

I've yet to set-up my new OP5, as i'm still undecided whether to stick with the stock 4.5.4 ROM, or try 1 of the custom ROMs that are currently available.
Who's stuck to stock, and who's tried/trying a custom with a kernel?
Stock ROM = ROM that was supplied with the OP5
Custom ROM = ROM that has been shared on forums by developers. etc.
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As off now I am on stock but will surely be going over custom ROM and custom kernel. Custom ROM and Kernel surely gives some extra benefits over stock(battery backup and many other features.)
So just test the phone for any HW defects or any for a week or so and you are good to root.
As far as I'm concerned, stock is a custom ROM. Not sure which option on the poll to pick...
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As far as I'm concerned, stock is a custom ROM. Not sure which option on the poll to pick...
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By custom, i'm refering to custom ROMs that XDA users have shared on the forum.
Stock ROM = ROM that was supplied with the OP5
Custom ROM = ROM that has been shared on forums by developers. etc.
Most of what I needed custom ROMs for in the past can be accomplished with oxygen OS now so I probably wont be installing anything aside from OEM updates until they stop supporting this device, if I still have it at that time. And when I do, it's just to try out whatever the latest OS is so I'm familiar with the new features when I do upgrade.
I think the most I will do for now is root, and TWRP but I'm still up in the air about that.
I think Oxygen OS works really nice at the moment, i will stay stock for now.
Updates will come rapidly from Oneplus thus the custom ROMS are not worth it for me at the moment.
Once Lineage or RR Remix arrives i will switch to custom ROMS
I'm on FreedomOS and it's very faster then original OxygenOS... I like this for now better than the original one
I've had my OP5 since yesterday and it's been fantastic and I haven't felt a need to use a custom ROM at all. I also usually add a custom kernel to I can change sounds and increase vibration sensitivity (may still do a kernel). I'm getting just over 9 hours of SOT with everything stock. I mean hell I used Google Maps today for 1 hour straight and it only used 6% battery!? My Nexus would have lost at least 18-20%.
When it's all said and done, I'm sure I'll get the itch to ROM and kernel this phone, but this is truly the first phone I don't feel a need to right now. Of course I rooted the phone and applied TRWP the first 5 min I had the phone haha. That goes without saying for my root apps like TB, Accubattery and Nova Launcher.
Can anyone check if the jelly effect is still there after they flashed the custom roms?
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I think Oxygen OS works really nice at the moment, i will stay stock for now.
Updates will come rapidly from Oneplus thus the custom ROMS are not worth it for me at the moment.
Once Lineage or RR Remix arrives i will switch to custom ROMS
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that's exactly what i would do
I really like the stock ROM. Coming from Samsung and LG phones, the OP5 is already running the type of ROM I'd likely flash to those phones if I could. I did root it though, and I'll likely stay this way unless something really compelling comes up, or OP stops updating it.
Using stock for now. I personally see no point in switching to custom until AOSP/LOS based ROMs begin appearing. It's still going to be Oxygen OS with basically the same features if I'd switch now.
As of now i'm sticking with stock. The phone is still young and i expect software updates to happen more frequently. As soon as the ROM's have more time to be developed and mature and OnePlus slows down the updates I will probably switch. As of now all the ROM's and recovery's are still in development and I am choosing to wait till it smooths out a little.
I have tried AICP, Tipsy OS, Mokee, Lineage, Hydrogen os. I would say Stock is the best. My present setup.
Hydrogen Os 3.5.0
Root via Chainfire Super su
Official TWRP
decrypted
Android o emoji's
A few tweaks.
Enjoying every bit.
May switch if CMTE (CM theme engine) comes to lineage Is, not a fan of the present theme engine.
Rooted, because wanted to get rid of the annoying ads and have some tweaks
I'm on xXx 2.0 Stock ROM and it works great. I will wait until everything is working to move to custom rom.
FreedomOS is a very good rom.
Also with Boeffla, Magisk.
Sent from my 8GB/128GB OP5 using Tapatalk PRO ?
zeyaan said:
I have tried AICP, Tipsy OS, Mokee, Lineage, Hydrogen os. I would say Stock is the best. My present setup.
Hydrogen Os 3.5.0
Root via Chainfire Super su
Official TWRP
decrypted
Android o emoji's
A few tweaks.
Enjoying every bit.
May switch if CMTE (CM theme engine) comes to lineage Is, not a fan of the present theme engine.
Rooted, because wanted to get rid of the annoying ads and have some tweaks
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Anyone can confirm if zoom 2x and PhotoEditor, for Camera, are working on CUSTOM Roms ?
zeyaan said:
I have tried AICP, Tipsy OS, Mokee, Lineage, Hydrogen os. I would say Stock is the best. My present setup.
Hydrogen Os 3.5.0
Root via Chainfire Super su
Official TWRP
decrypted
Android o emoji's
A few tweaks.
Enjoying every bit.
May switch if CMTE (CM theme engine) comes to lineage Is, not a fan of the present theme engine.
Rooted, because wanted to get rid of the annoying ads and have some tweaks
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May I ask, how is your idle drain on H2OS? What did you tweak to improve battery life?
I'm on H2OS too (so far unrooted), and idle drain is crazy... I even uninstalled Google Play Services (using Yalp Store to get Google Play Apps). Now Android System and Android OS kill my battery haha.
Stock OOS 4.5.6
Rooted with Magisk
Pixel Launcher, Android Messages, Google Dialer
Works great!
Stock rom with dirty core, amazing, while dirty unicorns is not released
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J5 2016 ROM recommendations (8.1)

Hello, I own a Moto G4 Plus that I have tested various ROMs on and have had experiences with flashing ROMs on Samsung devices, so a friend of mine asked if I could help him out too. So how stable are the Oreo ROMs? Would there be one that could be called the "best" one? Would it be worth for him to switch to a custom ROM or should he stay on the stock one?
Oreo ROMs are very good the best for me are LineageOS and Resurrection Remix OS
Just my personal experience but...I´m yet to see a Custom Rom for J5 2016 that matches Stock Rom. Used all of them from Lineage to Dot OS and although they are pretty stable, performance is a bit hit and miss. Sometimes the phone works like a rocket and sometimes you nedd to reboot it to make it usable again. I have kids and take a lot of photos, so the shutter lag in custom roms is a great con, for me.
This may vary from user to user, which GApps you use, which apps you use, so I would give it a try anyway. From the ones I used, Lineage is by far the best.

Need help to choose a stable 8.1.0 Stable Custom ROM

My g4 plus is a Rooted 7.0 NPJS25 running in Elemental X Kernel with last security update on 1 June 2017.
Can somebody point me to a good and stable Oreo Custom ROM and possibly the instructions on whether i need some other things beside the custom ROM to make my device better.
Sorry for being a noob. All help is Appreciated
Yush_noob said:
My g4 plus is a Rooted 7.0 NPJS25 running in Elemental X Kernel with last security update on 1 June 2017.
Can somebody point me to a good and stable Oreo Custom ROM and possibly the instructions on whether i need some other things beside the custom ROM to make my device better.
Sorry for being a noob. All help is Appreciated
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There is already ongoing discussion on this topic : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/discussion-stable-oreo-rom-t3792049
Also make sure you are posting in question and answer section not in development section..
There's no Oreo custom ROM stable at moment, if you really want to use custom ROM i would recommend Nougat ROMs, especially the Official Lineage 14.1. Alias, even Lineage and ROMs based on lineage suffer from random reboot(And thats why after using custom ROM for more than a year on my Athene i started using Stock again, where everything works well and no random reboot)
TLastPrism said:
There's no Oreo custom ROM stable at moment, if you really want to use custom ROM i would recommend Nougat ROMs, especially the Official Lineage 14.1. Alias, even Lineage and ROMs based on lineage suffer from random reboot(And thats why after using custom ROM for more than a year on my Athene i started using Stock again, where everything works well and no random reboot)
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Resurrection remix 5.8.5 seems great. No random reboots. Been using it for almost 1.5 years now.
Nougat ROMs have no reboots and hardly any minor bugs. Orero ROMs do have some bugs but are 90% stable which is due to the old baseband and blobs of the device. Hopefully, once official Oreo update is out (or even soak test is out), it should fix the remaining 10% problems.
I tried
RR (Oreo)
Lineage OS (Oreo)
Havoc OS (Oreo)
And in my experience the "most stable" is by far Havoc, righ now is what Im using even when the Dev just droped the project
Im waiting for RR to improve and will be definitly looking for it

Custom ROM comparison in 2020

There are so many roms for the Moto G4 Plus that it's quite confusing to decide which to try.
I'm interested in a ROM that is:
Relatively stable
Still receiving security patches
No major bugs (like Camera not working or other major issues)
Ideally (but not necessarily) passes SafetyNet without Magisk and Magisk hide
Not interested in tons of customisations
Oreo, Pie or 10
What would you suggest?
Entodoays said:
There are so many roms for the Moto G4 Plus that it's quite confusing to decide which to try.
I'm interested in a ROM that is:
Relatively stable
Still receiving security patches
No major bugs (like Camera not working or other major issues)
Ideally (but not necessarily) passes SafetyNet without Magisk and Magisk hide
Not interested in tons of customisations
Oreo, Pie or 10
What would you suggest?
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Pixel experience plus, Arrow OS 10 or LineageOS 15.1
LineageOS and Pixel experience plus are more stable.
Entodoays said:
There are so many roms for the Moto G4 Plus that it's quite confusing to decide which to try.
I'm interested in a ROM that is:
Relatively stable
Still receiving security patches
No major bugs (like Camera not working or other major issues)
Ideally (but not necessarily) passes SafetyNet without Magisk and Magisk hide
Not interested in tons of customisations
Oreo, Pie or 10
What would you suggest?
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Havoc-OS Android 9
jack_04 said:
Pixel experience plus, Arrow OS 10 or LineageOS 15.1
LineageOS and Pixel experience plus are more stable.
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How do these ROMs compare to Stock?
Entodoays said:
How do these ROMs compare to Stock?
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Stock ROM is on Oreo while these custom ROMs are on higher android version. Plus latest security updates and some new features that you can not find on stock ROM. May be not as stable as stock ROM in some cases but are very close to stable and with some improvements like battery backup, etc. If you are doing great with Stock ROM then no need to flash these ROMs.
I would like to have the latest security updates and, to a minor extent, a newer Android version, but not if the custom ROM is unstable. What I would not like to have is daily random reboots or the phone turning off when battery is still at 30% for example. Have these issues been solved?
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Pixel experience plus, Arrow OS 10 or LineageOS 15.1
LineageOS and Pixel experience plus are more stable.
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I won't consider Arrow OS 10 because the camera doesn't work. LineageOS is on Android 8.1 whereas Pixel Experience Plus is on Android 9. Is the latter slower that the former or is the performance similar? I would consider using LineageOS with a nano Gapps to limit the background processes since I have a device with 2Gb of RAM only.
Do apps generally perform better (faster) with 64 bit ROMS? Instagram and Messenger are very slow amongst other apps on Stock Oreo ROM. Since my device has 2Gb of RAM, are 64 bit ROMs too heavy?

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