High System Storage Use - Verizon HTC 10 Questions & Answers

I've noticed recently that I'm running out of space on my phone. The main culprit seems to be "System" which varies between 12GB and 14GB but it has gone as high as 22GB. What is the normal usage for this space? 8GBs was normal on my other phones but 12 seems a bit excessive.
I already wiped the cache partition too.

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Substantial memory leak

Hi,
I've noticed that over the course of a day, the memory consumption of the HD increases substantially... going up from about 30% to over 60% if I use it heavily. I imagine it has something to do with the different caches and the tweaks I've run (found on the forums) to increase performance. Is there a way to flush all caches so that I don't have to reset the device?
Thanks!
I'd like to know if anyone else is having this problem too.
After a fresh reboot my memory usage is about 30%. By the time Gyrator and TouchFlo restart it gets to about 40% where it stays.
However once I start using programs it will easily skyrocket to about 70%. Even if I close all the programs using taskmanager I will never recover more than about 2-3% of memory.
i use memmaid to free memory from time to time, but i we also backup a request for something that automaticly do that
shadow option for sktools made my hd to stuck so i rennounced to it
any ideeas?
now i don't know if this can affect battery performance but with computers the most efficient system is NOT the one with a lot of free ram, is the one that USES it totally... virtually having always ram at 99% would mean maximum performance... In other words: why do you want to flush the ram
This can not affect battery performance at all.
And it's totally normal to use ALL ram.
I guess you people grew up with normal Windows, that frees ram...
For example Linux has always used 99% RAM on your pc. It just uses all the free RAM as cache! So when there is more needed, it deletes some cache and allocates that RAM.
It is bad, very bad to waste memory by not using 100%. Using all memory for cache and only giving memory when it is needed is good for performance.
If you look at Vista, it does the same thing...
So it is normal behaviour, especially when you set all the caches high.
I use the SKTools application "FreeUP RAM" which does a sweep of RAM and normally saves about 5-10 mb.
BUT, I find I rarely need it as I don't seem to have any memory leak except with TomTom running.
i am not sure i can follow you
if i understand well, linux keem memory ocupied in order to fully use the whole capacity
but is not the case of windows, and sure is not the case of windows mobile
in my device, diferent processes and application take a slice of memory and does not release it even when you close them
so you end with a memory occupied 60, 70 even 80% despite the fact that you have nothing obviously running
because of that (not having enough free RAM), when you launch a new application, the HD became very slow or even stuck
correct me if i am wrong, but this is what i have noticed during the years of use of windows or windows mobile.
i am not computer literated so i might be wrong, though!
I also raise this problem here before, most expert's advise is that WM will manage memory itself, it is not necessary for us to do anything!!
I had tried to use memmaid, but it only free up 1-2M memory.
Back to the time when I use D810, if there are few MB left, I can't launch new application. Even when I close some and make free RAM left to 16+ MB, that program will still report out of memory........the only thing I can do is to soft reset.....
HD's RAM capacity is much better, but as time goes......maybe this problem will also happen!?!?
Sorry but not convinced. I agree that when in use 70-80% memory usage is not a problem. But when there are no programs running, then there is no reason to use ram.
Also on my previous wm6.1 device when you closed items in task manager it would restore ram. Sure not all of it but a good chunk of it. Heck, even on my previous HD using the task manager would free more ram.
The only thing that I can see that is different between my previous HD and this one is Tweak HD and the TouchFLO Calender. So I will try removing those first and see what happens,
Eventually, after flashing Laurentius's ROM, the problem went away almost completely. Have to say my memory usage is pretty stable now, at around 40-45% even after a day of full application and web use.
dunno personally i'd love to have a superfetch feature like in vista which keeps ram full
Higher memory usage causes minimal/neglectable effect on power consumption, RAM is powered as a whole, fractional/partial modes (where only used memory cells are powered) are not available on modern RAM chips. The CPU or DMA controller may use more power swapping memory data in and out as memory usage grows, however the increase is nothing in comparison with what the LCD backlight or loudspeaker would use.
I don't know what memory allocation method is used in Windows CE/Mobile, but regardless, being unable to start a new application while there are no other applications running in the background means that physical memory is depleted and this is not normal. OS may use RAM for caching/buffering to optimize performance, however memory allocated for optimizations should probably be released when it's required for other purposes. If this is not happening, than either OS lost track of allocated/unallocated memory or memory allocation approach is very inefficient and causes high fragmentation.
Here's a list of tools (for WinCE) that may also work on WinMo and help curious xda-devs figure out what's eating their memory...
http://blogs.msdn.com/ce_base/archive/2006/01/11/511883.aspx

Constant Low Memory [N][all roms]

Hey xda-ers,
I have been plagued by this issue for quite some time and wanted to see if it was just me, or if others share my pain.
Since migrating to Nougat I have found that my phone starts to slow down and freeze after some usage. Typically after leaving some apps open.
The problem immediately goes away once i hit Clear All on the recents, thus I think it is a RAM issue.
In all kernerls or Roms I have tried the problem persists, even if selecting "Aggressive mode" for low memory killer.
I always thought that leaving apps open will not impact ram, as android "understands" theses are not being used (hence why all "ram managers" are just snake oil).
So is anyone else getting this slow down after a few hours of use?
Any tips/tricks to help with this?
TL;DR: how do i fix constant low memory on Nougat roms?
It must be a particular app/set of apps that would be causing this. I see from your signature that you are on Nitrogen OS, as am I. In my particular case, I have never seen more than 1.2GB RAM of the 1.8GB used, the usual average is more in the mid to high 800 Meg range. You could check for yourself in settings, under memory, the current usage is shown. There is a further sub menu in there that shows per app memory used. Check and see if you can identify the culprit.
P.S: I do use Greenify, maybe that keeps the RAM usage low? Maybe someone else can chime in with their usage as well.
Karan.S said:
It must be a particular app/set of apps that would be causing this. I see from your signature that you are on Nitrogen OS, as am I. In my particular case, I have never seen more than 1.2GB RAM of the 1.8GB used, the usual average is more in the mid to high 800 Meg range. You could check for yourself in settings, under memory, the current usage is shown. There is a further sub menu in there that shows per app memory used. Check and see if you can identify the culprit.
P.S: I do use Greenify, maybe that keeps the RAM usage low? Maybe someone else can chime in with their usage as well.
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Hi, thanks for the reply.
I also use Greenify, and when checking the app usage (which i have monitored for a few months), I see that OS uses around 1.2, and chrome and other apps around 100-200mb each.
However, it seems that the moment I have less than 400mb "free" it starts to glitch.
Also, issue persists even with Tesla Rom (which is what i moved to a few months ago).
Maybe this is just the limit of the N4 with newer apps...
For me the android OS is currently around the 350MB mark. Tap on Android OS and see what is using the memory. Maybe the cache is running high for you?

System Folder use 10GB

Hi!
When i review the space used by apps i see the mayor space is used by the system, 10 GB is this normal?
Mi A1 Android 8.1.0 August patch
thanks.
Same.... And i can't found the big file...
Yeah, it is normal. On my Mi A1, it is 9.6gb.
10GB is because of cache and data, dont worry, its normall.
It's like on your computer hard drive, the OS takes some space. Those 10G is the space taken by Android OS and the space it needs to run, so this is 100% normal. And every phone has space "eaten" by OS, the size on the box is always the total space installed on the device, never the usable space by the user (and there should be small prints somewhere mentioning this).
Even a 1800 USD iPhone would have this

Internal storage space shrinking for no reason

A while ago even after moving all movable apps to SD card on my J730F/DS i was constantly out of space. Using CC cleaner i was deleting everything that could be deleted i was down to 4-500Mb free space on the internal memory.
Looking at all the apps i had installed there was no way that it could fill up the whole 16GB so i did a factory reset. After reset and reinstalling all the apps back and moved them back to SD card i had a cool 9.7GB free on internal memory. That was great i did not even care why and what was taking all that space.
All great and good for few days but one evening going to sleep i woke up next day and 1GB was gone. All updates disabled, phone just sitting and charging. It was annoying but still plenty of space.
One week later i decide to manually update the apps i wanted updated to see if the updates are eating up space even if the apps are on SD card. All good and done, apps moved back to SD after update, no change in storage space. Then 3 days later same thing over night i woke up and 700MB missing.
Another week has passed, no more updates just couple of ne apps installed and moved to SD. Storage space stays the same. I uninstalled all of the pre-loaded apps with ADB and all seems fine for few days. Today i woke up and another 700MB gone form internal storage.
This is getting ridiculous. I think they are doing something to the Android to eat up space in order for us to buy new phones, just as Apple was caught slowing down devices. I do not need a new one, this one does everything i need it to do.
Does anyone has an idea where all the space goes and how to recover it ?

How did phone balloon to 42GB system data?

I got the LG V20 (Model H910) with 64GB last November and was pretty happy with it overall, especially the price and that it had a replaceable battery. With all my apps installed, I still had over 27GB free space, more than enough to hold me a long time, plus a 128GB sd card. I had quickly discovered the "Marketing Services Manager" app that was randomly adding unwanted apps to the phone and deleted that within the first week.
But then about 4 months later the free space started shrinking, until the last few months when it was down to less than 1GB free space and the phone was extremely slow. I moved all apps possible to the sd card, that got me back to almost 5GB free space. But that free space was quickly disappearing as well until I said screw it and ordered a new phone. I deleted most all apps off the V20 except for a few I wanted to see the setups and would just reset the phone afterwards and see what would happen.
Before I reset the phone took a screenshot of the Disk Usage app showing the 42GB in system data, and one after I set the phone back up again, with all original apps back showing the 470MB in system data. I half expected the internal storage to be corrupt and unusable, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Any idea what caused this? I had no rogue apps installed, nothing suspicious looking at all, everything possible was always stored on the sd card except for apps, cache was cleared, phone was not rooted. Is this some weird Android or LG bug? I had the LG G5 before the V20 and it was a great phone and never had this issue. And after 4 years use, the G5 system data is only 3.58GB, more along what I would expect. I use my phones for at least 3 years, but a few things bugged me about the V20 so I was ready to just cut my losses and dump it. But I'm really curious if this can happen again randomly.

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