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My Evo battery is draining at a rate that is all together too fast. I took it off the charger about 3.5 hours ago and it has drained about 30-40%. I have not made a call nor used the net at all save for the receipt of 3-4 emails. I had a rooted phone but I reset the phone back to complete unrooted stock. I have not even so much as installed an app. What can I do about this?
turn off your mobile data when not in use. This will save tremendous amounts of battery.
if you search the forums you should find countless threads on battery and how to find out what is draining your battery and to extend life.
not sure why you would unroot unless you were exchanging it at sprint store but it greatly limits what you can do to help prevent battery drain. If you dont want to mess with much jsut use a rooted stock rom and it is pretty much the same thing as being unrooted but you keep the extra rooted benefits.
your best bet on non rooted device make sure mobile data, 4g, auto orientation, bluetooth etc are turned off. do the HTC battery condition/charge trick. and turn off background sync.
my suggestion is to re root and look into undervolted kernels and many other battery saving tricks found using search!
hopefully it helps some.
I had the same problem OP.
Turns out my radios weren't update.
Head over to the developer section and download the newest radios and stuff.
I've seen significant improvement of my battery life by using Collin_ph Battery Tweak 1 that was offered by Myn's when I flashed his/her's rom. I had my BF take his Evo to work after he come home complaining that the charge would only last about an hour or two and behold, he got through the whole day without having to charge his battery. This is after listening to music at work for 8 hours also. I HIGHLY recommend this tweak for ROOTED PHONES as I and everyone else I've recommended loves their Evo now and have no complaints...I'm at work right now and I'm at 79% and when I usually get home the battery is either still green (full) or orange (med) charge. I'm not sure if this tweak can be used with other mods but I'm very happy with this tweak as it has made my phone perfect now~~
Could be a Rogue app running killing your battery or radios not updated like stated above.
I recently started having the same issue. Advice such as turning of data and the GPS aren't helpful since the device functioned fine with GPS and data on before. Also if the battery was draining at a slower rate on the current radio before, you shouldn't need to update it, should you?
Seems that either something is making the Evo use more juice than it was before or that the battery is not holding the same capacity it used to. For some reason Phone Idle and Cell Standby have been using quite a bit more juice than they used to.
I don't like some of the software mentioned to try and locate anything that could be using more juice since those programs seem to use quite a bit themselves. Either way, what could be doing it that would come up as Phone Idle or Cell Standby in the included battery monitor? Wouldn't anything else come up under Android System?
The battery draining that quickly is not normal even with background sync, GPS (idle), 4g, data, or anything else on. There is another issue which must be solved. To troubleshoot so far I've tried another battery (same thing happens) and now I'm trying with everything turned off. If I can isolate what was causing my sudden rapid battery drain, I'll update everyone. This just started a couple nights ago for me. I think I'm on the latest radio, but I'll check.
Last post sums up my problem perfectly. I have an extended battery that lasts half the time it has over the last 4 months. Started with the radio updates. running myk
Use the battery usage functions of 'spareparts' to determine what's consuming cpu or preventing the phone from sleeping.
Can't fix the problem until you've isolated what's at fault.
Turning off mobile data will indeed fix a problem of some app trying to access the network, but it won't solve the actual cause.
bcarter2000 said:
turn off your mobile data when not in use. This will save tremendous amounts of battery.
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I think juice defender does this automatically when the screen is off.
In the case of my phone, and I believe the OP's, we don't have any rogue apps or things running in the background. I know this phone like the back of my hand. I have completely uninstalled unnecessary apps like facebook, twitter, all things like news and weather are on manual update, i don't keep 4g or gps on, and I use wifi at home. I turn off 3g in terrible reception areas. I'm not a new user who doesn't understand the basic ways to save a little battery. I'm pretty sure the OP isn't either by his post. I use my phone the same every day. My chinese extended battery would last me easily from morning to bedtime with 20 to 30 percent to spare. Now I can't get near that after the radio updates. Since it's been well known that something is weird with these current updates, I've downgraded to 1.77 to see if that helps. My phone was sleeping fine though, so I don't know how much it will help. Always some BS with this phone.
Log out of gtalk and latitude. Those two seem to kill battery.
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Log out of gtalk and latitude. Those two seem to kill battery.
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I appreciate it. I really do. But that is exactly the things I'm saying are already off. GTalk is turned off immediately on my phone from the jump and latitude has never been opened. It's got to be radios. I guess I'm not really asking a question, I'm just telling the OP he isn't alone.
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I appreciate it. I really do. But that is exactly the things I'm saying are already off. GTalk is turned off immediately on my phone from the jump and latitude has never been opened. It's got to be radios. I guess I'm not really asking a question, I'm just telling the OP he isn't alone.
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this is the thread with flashable .zips of alllll the radio updates ever out for the EVO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485&highlight=radio
if you are having trouble after a radio update, just try some of these other radios and see if that helps
Your best bet would be to root your phone again and give one of the SBC kernels a shot. I'm running CM 6.1.2 along with Zendroid 1.1.0 BFS AVS SBC and I can easily get 16+ hours with HEAVY use. And when I say heavy use, I mean hundreds of sms, dozens of calls and lots of websurfing. You will love the SBC kernels. Give it a try.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
We can offer suggestions until we're blue in the face.
First off, the OP needs to provide specifics of what's installed on the device, including rom, kernel, radio, etc, not to mention the hardware version itself.
Assuming it's not the known pri /rom conflict, then determination needs to be made as to what's actually consuming cpu - see first sentence above.
Need to use a systematic approach to troubleshoot this, otherwise it's a waste of time.
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My Evo battery is draining at a rate that is all together too fast. I took it off the charger about 3.5 hours ago and it has drained about 30-40%. I have not made a call nor used the net at all save for the receipt of 3-4 emails. I had a rooted phone but I reset the phone back to complete unrooted stock. I have not even so much as installed an app. What can I do about this?
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That sounds like a very weak cellular signal is forcing the radio to keep searching for it, draining the battery very quickly.
One way to somewhat alleviate this problem is to force roaming, to connect to a provider with a better signal.
"Roam Control" app does this (Market).
gpz1100 said:
We can offer suggestions until we're blue in the face.
First off, the OP needs to provide specifics of what's installed on the device, including rom, kernel, radio, etc, not to mention the hardware version itself.
Assuming it's not the known pri /rom conflict, then determination needs to be made as to what's actually consuming cpu - see first sentence above.
Need to use a systematic approach to troubleshoot this, otherwise it's a waste of time.
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Dude....This is the best post in this thread...
Sometimes I wonder how far android users went in school....is scientific method lost these days? By no means am I qualified to help here..so my flamesuit is on for the post but damn.."my ****z broke...halp" won't cut it in a developer forum...
"it works on my machine"....words to die by.
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....is scientific method lost these days?
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What's that??????
d3x502 said:
Dude....This is the best post in this thread...
Sometimes I wonder how far android users went in school....is scientific method lost these days? By no means am I qualified to help here..so my flamesuit is on for the post but damn.."my ****z broke...halp" won't cut it in a developer forum...
"it works on my machine"....words to die by.
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Actually,
some android users looked at the posting date, saw that the op hasn't updated in over 24 hours, wanted to complain about it, decided against it, posted quickly the most useful idea they had.
All that while doing real science.
Hi all,
The battery life of my 4month old SGS is becoming shorter every week! I can 'almost' last a work day (8 hours) with a fully charged battery and minimal use.
I had this problem also on the stock firmware, Darky's rom 8.x was a slight improvement (much faster tho!), Light-ning rom and Darky's rom 9.x.
Everyday I charge my battery untill it is full, when my alarm goes off it's already at 98% (it's still hooked up). When I'm in the train to school, my battery already dropped around 86% (being idle). I check some mobile websites, my e-mail and read some twitter messages.
Because I know services as Twitter (I'm using Tweetdeck) uses alot of resources and battery, so when I'm done looking I always shut down those programs. And I often do an 'end all' task in the 'System' app which I purchased from the market lately to monitor my battery.
During the day the only thing I do is check my mail and some websites, but not for long, mostly it would be around 5minutes or so. So WiFi is turned OFF, GPS is turned OFF, and only GMail synchronizes with default settings. So what's the deal? Is my battery slowly dieing because of oldness, or is there another problem?
Thanks in advance for helping me! You're doing a great job!
Sincerely yours,
S1GNZ
after flashing your custom roms of choice... did you ever do a battery calibration?
like let your phone drain till it dies on its own... turn it on againa nd let it die again to completely drain it to the point where u cant even turn it on.
Then plug your phone in to charge and let it charge to 100%. Keeping the phone plugged in turn on your phone into recovery. Then clear battery status.
Then reboot your phone into normal mode and let it continue charging till it says 100%. WHen you unplug your phone it SHOULD say 100% still.
This normally fix the problem but if you notice that your phone is dying quickly still then PM me.
One small advice,try logging out google talk,of-course if you are not on it much,it will give you at least 2-3 hrs more.
Also,there is already a thread active on this forum 'dont kill your phone
,give it a life' give that a read.
Mainly this battery drains are there because of apps doing sync. or polling.identify them and adjust settings.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
cripez said:
after flashing your custom roms of choice... did you ever do a battery calibration?
like let your phone drain till it dies on its own... turn it on againa nd let it die again to completely drain it to the point where u cant even turn it on.
Then plug your phone in to charge and let it charge to 100%. Keeping the phone plugged in turn on your phone into recovery. Then clear battery status.
Then reboot your phone into normal mode and let it continue charging till it says 100%. WHen you unplug your phone it SHOULD say 100% still.
This normally fix the problem but if you notice that your phone is dying quickly still then PM me.
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I've been browsing these forums lately, and I've also come across a thread which advice is just the opposite and that you should NOT do this, any advice if that's true? And is it also true that deleting the batterystats helps?
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One small advice,try logging out google talk,of-course if you are not on it much,it will give you at least 2-3 hrs more.
Also,there is already a thread active on this forum 'dont kill your phone
,give it a life' give that a read.
Mainly this battery drains are there because of apps doing sync. or polling.identify them and adjust settings.
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Am I auto-logged in on Google talk? If so, how do I log myself out :$? So Google sync might drain it? (Mail, Agenda, Contacts?)
Thanks for the quick replies! I really appreciate it!
Sincerely yours,
S1GNZ
I am not 100% sure if you auto logged or not.I believe not but if not so , then open app,press menu/setting button on phone,select logout.also if you not intending to use data network,press power key till you see a menu turn off,data network,turn it on when you need it.These small things saves some power.
If you dont want to mess around with this little twiks then 'juice plotter' is the app for you.it will manage lots of things and defi. saves battery.
BTW based on your usage desc., I think I use it in similar way ...almost and yet phone makes ~2 days.
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S1GNZ said:
I've been browsing these forums lately, and I've also come across a thread which advice is just the opposite and that you should NOT do this, any advice if that's true? And is it also true that deleting the batterystats helps?
S1GNZ
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You of course wouldn't be doing this alot nor should you NEED to do this often. It's only something you do when you're experiencing what you currently are.
Personally I have no idea why anyone say u "Should NOT" do this.. it's not like you're altering anything hardware wise. It's mainly software and power usage aspects.
Like I said to each their own. Some people say custom roms are a "No-No" cuz it messes with the phone in more bads than good and some says stock roms are for noobs. You dont HAVE to try what I said, it's merely a suggestion of fix or methods that seems to solve the problems others have encountered.
Clearing the battery status pretty much resets it's counter to 100% and from there it will "calculate" the life of the battery from full to empty. It's a calibration thing.
Now on regards to usage, keep your data plan off and auto-sync off when you're not using it. Leave your wifi off and gps off as well.. pretty much keep anything you dont need off until you need it. Some samsung apps does a background run thing where it'll auto turn on and auto run in the background which drains ur battery quite badly. If you don't use goggle talk or samsung chat apps, there are many ways to remove them completely so it won't mess with your battery life
Simple you installed a rom with multiple posts on battery drain problem .
A rom that also tells you about battery drain problems /fix on its front page .
jje
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I am not 100% sure if you auto logged or not.I believe not but if not so , then open app,press menu/setting button on phone,select logout.also if you not intending to use data network,press power key till you see a menu turn off,data network,turn it on when you need it.These small things saves some power.
If you dont want to mess around with this little twiks then 'juice plotter' is the app for you.it will manage lots of things and defi. saves battery.
BTW based on your usage desc., I think I use it in similar way ...almost and yet phone makes ~2 days.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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Okay! And you're right, it logs me on when I start the app. But I logged me out, just to be sure. I know about turning of the mobile data traffic, I'll see how much it saves. I think I came across juice plotter, but I'll look into it. Thanks!
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You of course wouldn't be doing this alot nor should you NEED to do this often. It's only something you do when you're experiencing what you currently are.
Personally I have no idea why anyone say u "Should NOT" do this.. it's not like you're altering anything hardware wise. It's mainly software and power usage aspects.
Like I said to each their own. Some people say custom roms are a "No-No" cuz it messes with the phone in more bads than good and some says stock roms are for noobs. You dont HAVE to try what I said, it's merely a suggestion of fix or methods that seems to solve the problems others have encountered.
Clearing the battery status pretty much resets it's counter to 100% and from there it will "calculate" the life of the battery from full to empty. It's a calibration thing.
Now on regards to usage, keep your data plan off and auto-sync off when you're not using it. Leave your wifi off and gps off as well.. pretty much keep anything you dont need off until you need it. Some samsung apps does a background run thing where it'll auto turn on and auto run in the background which drains ur battery quite badly. If you don't use goggle talk or samsung chat apps, there are many ways to remove them completely so it won't mess with your battery life
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Don't be offended by what I said! . I only wanted to make sure I'm doing the right thing, I appreciate your criticism though. I did what you said and fully drained my battery yesterday, kept it charging overnight, cleared the batterystats through recovery mode and at the moment it's charging till 100%. I will see if it helps!
And according to my usage, I have Wifi and GPS turned of as default. And because I reinstalled a new ROM inclusive data wipe I don't have much chat apps installed, maybe there are some default apps that don't show up in the 'System panel' app though?
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Simple you installed a rom with multiple posts on battery drain problem .
A rom that also tells you about battery drain problems /fix on its front page .
jje
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Care to explain a bit further?
FYI, I installed these ROMS:
past: Stock firmware 2.2.1
past: Darky's ROM v8.0 Gingerbread edition
past: Light-ning ROM 2.2 (if I'm correct, it's probably the latest)
current: Darky's ROM v9.2 Extreme edition (9.2 should've fixed the battery drain, am I right?)
Can't thank you enough for the replies!
Sincerely yours,
S1GNZ
im having similar problems too. calibrating doesnt really make a difference.
i installed an app called task identifier which is brilliant it tell me whats happening when the phone is asleep. the only trouble is i dont understand what these processes are so i cant disable them.... is there any sort of app out there that completely logs / signs you out of every app ??
i have 108 apps (not including system apps) and its hard trying to eliminate the battery drainers
Care to explain a bit further?
As it says post lots of with battery problems big big percentage running Darky rom .
current: Darky's ROM v9.2 Extreme edition (9.2 should've fixed the battery drain, am I right?) You would have to ask on dARKY Post .
Look at Battery drain thread LAST POST OR SO MAY BE OF INTEREST .
I am of the opinion that if a rom breaks something then installing more roms will often not fix the problem . I prefer a blank completely wiped phone in such cases with no trace of any rom left on it .
jje
@azzledazzle 108 apps? really ????
I don't have that much on my PC!
I think we should start narrowing down which apps drain most juice. I've been using Advanced Task Killer just to narrow down a couple.
example:
Sound Hound - starts on its own
Facebook had an issue with notifications push, when disabled, it still sent notifications to my phone. But I think they fixed it in the latest version.
We could start adding versions to know which app is a 'juice drainer'
So, my phone has been running fine for weeks (it was at I think like 600+ hours uptime before I had to reboot it for the first time two days ago). I'm running Apex 1.4.1, with no custom modifications. I was using it one day, then a little later it just started freezing for several seconds anytime I tried to do anything, then unfreezing for a couple seconds, then freezing, etc. I rebooted it, then it was fine for a little while. Then I was texting someone back and forth for an hour or so, and all of a sudden it stopped sending my messages. I rebooted, and it was able to send again. Now today apparently she isn't getting them again, because she asked the same question I already replied to, over an hour later (I mean, she could have just not seen the reply, but with the other recent problems I'm not betting on it...).
Has anyone seen issues like this? Also, come to think of it, Yahoo Mail has been acting just retarded...it keeps disabling status bar notifications on its own (twice so far), but regardless, when it IS notified, it's not letting me know when I get new emails, I have to go in and look. My batteries been dying a LOT faster, and my data usage has been steadily climbing over the last couple days (I haven't downloaded anything, and my normal usage recently has only been very basic) and I have a feeling Yahoo Mail has been constantly trying to connect but failing, except for when I manually go into it? But that's just a guess.
This is all just bugging me, so any suggestions would be helpful. I can just backup my needed apps, wipe and re-flash Apex, but if anyone has any other suggestions I would love to hear them. Thanks
Well I think you went wrong when you didn't shut it off for over 600 hours. Did you really need it to be on at that time? Even at night?
But anyway that's just my rant. Reflashing apex would be a good place to start. And make sure you just wipe everything. If that doesn't work, you may want to go completely back to stock and then back to apex
So you're saying this OS is not as stable as Windows? Because I've had Windows OS's stay running for months without issue. Gee, if Android isn't is good as Windows, maybe I should look into getting a WP7 phone... /sarcasm
If there aren't issues, then there's no reason to turn off your phone. Shutting it down at night is good if you don't want to charge it, but it really shouldn't be a requirement unless if Android isn't ready for prime-time (and no, I'm not saying that's the case). I had an issue, I rebooted, I had another issue, I rebooted, I had ANOTHER issue, rebooted, and so far it's been good since yesterday afternoon.
I really think it was the Yahoo Mail app though I don't know why it would have prevented sending text messages... I did a force stop, cleared it's data, removed it, rebooted, and then reinstalled the app. So far, it's been working OK from what I can tell. The data usage has slowed, battery life seems to be good again, and I'm getting notified of new Yahoo emails.
Actually I am not at all concerned with the software. I was talking about the hardware. Would you leave your computer running for 600+ hours?
Like I said, I have. My file server (Windows Server 2003) has been running (except for a few brief shutdowns for hardware upgrades/swaps) for over 2 years. My main PC (Windows 7) has been running, for the most part, except for a few times when I just felt like shutting it down, for probably the last 6 months.
Ok well if it works for you, then great keep doing it. But I'm just saying, as a computer guy, that is just a general bad idea
Nice to know, but I'm also a "computer guy" (professionally) and as a rule of thumb I keep my office computer on 24/7/365, as well as my home computers.
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Nice to know, but I'm also a "computer guy" (professionally) and as a rule of thumb I keep my office computer on 24/7/365, as well as my home computers.
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Since you are a computer guy, could you please explain how there aren't any adverse effects on your hardware from keeping it running? Primarily on the cpu and fans? No chance you could burn something out?
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Actually I am not at all concerned with the software. I was talking about the hardware. Would you leave your computer running for 600+ hours?
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Why would you shut it off? I don't think leaving it on all the time is the issue. why shut your cell phone off? I think that's stupid. Then again I'm a midnighter so I guess things are different for me. I never shut off my cell phone or PC.
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Since you are a computer guy, could you please explain how there aren't any adverse effects on your hardware from keeping it running? Primarily on the cpu and fans? No chance you could burn something out?
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It's designed to run like that. I'm a big PC guy as well. I do a few custom builds here and there. Seriously turning it off and on all the time it going to cause more damage (especially to your HDD) then keeping it on all the time. It's like a car being in stop and go traffic versus highway mileage. I think the last time I shut my PC off was around Christmas cause I had to reformat and couldn't get it done before I went to work so since my network wasn't up yet no reason to keep it on.
Computers aren't like cars..."gunk" and "sludge" (and yes, I'm getting these highly technical terms from TV because I know crap about cars) don't build up in computers. Pieces wear out, sure. But that can happen just as easily from frequent turning on and off. Like I said, my two computers at home stay on almost constantly, and I don't exactly dust or vacuum frequently. The last thing I had to replace was in my gaming PC, and that was the video card since it was two years old and couldn't play Crysis 2 well enough.
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Computers aren't like cars..."gunk" and "sludge" (and yes, I'm getting these highly technical terms from TV because I know crap about cars) don't build up in computers. Pieces wear out, sure. But that can happen just as easily from frequent turning on and off. Like I said, my two computers at home stay on almost constantly, and I don't exactly dust or vacuum frequently. The last thing I had to replace was in my gaming PC, and that was the video card since it was two years old and couldn't play Crysis 2 well enough.
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I don't know much about cars either. Maybe I wasn't using the correct tone, but I actually agree with you. Like I had said in my post I keep my machines running 24/7 usually same with cell phone. I don't know crap about cars either the only reason I used the comparison is that wear and tear from city driving or stop and go traffic (when compared to turning your pc on and off frequently) is worse than freeway or long distance without stop driving (as referring to keeping your PC on) So yea we are pretty much saying the same thing
Hey thank you for explaining it to me this way. I never thought of it like that. You are probably right. Excuse me for just one more question though: would keeping it on all the time actually end up using more power than you would if you kept it off?
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Hey thank you for explaining it to me this way. I never thought of it like that. You are probably right. Excuse me for just one more question though: would keeping it on all the time actually end up using more power than you would if you kept it off?
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Well...yeah, obviously. But if someone tries to call me in the middle of the night for an emergency, and I don't get the call because my phone was off, well, that would suck. But with Apex, I've went to sleep on, for instance, 80% battery, woke up, and the battery still said 80%. As for my computers, well, yeah, that costs me a little more per month, but it's not breaking my bank, so it doesn't bother me.
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I don't know much about cars either. Maybe I wasn't using the correct tone, but I actually agree with you. Like I had said in my post I keep my machines running 24/7 usually same with cell phone. I don't know crap about cars either the only reason I used the comparison is that wear and tear from city driving or stop and go traffic (when compared to turning your pc on and off frequently) is worse than freeway or long distance without stop driving (as referring to keeping your PC on) So yea we are pretty much saying the same thing
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Lol Sorry, I wasn't referring to your posts (we just both happened to use car references).
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Hey thank you for explaining it to me this way. I never thought of it like that. You are probably right. Excuse me for just one more question though: would keeping it on all the time actually end up using more power than you would if you kept it off?
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Yea but honestly if your pc isn't super holy **** beast mode it isn't going to be that noticeable. I have a nice higher-end PC and it isn't that bad on my bill.
Hey guys, I have tryed to find same issue, but i dont seem to find anything that is exactly the same on this forum, yet i see it everywhere on the web/google.
I have a problem with my new 2weeks old note 3! It have problems maintaining a prober battery drain and its really pissing me off. I have to restart my phone everyday, its like its slowly building up overtime or overnight... mby even after i recharge it?
I wanted to post some links to my dropbox with screenshots of betterbatterystats and gsam battery, but cant right now because im new, so first up ill see if anyone have any idea without further explanation!
Im rdy to do allmost anything, but i have no idea how kernel and stuff like that can be fixed... :S
Heres some of the pictures from working and not working!
When working:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vtvrrde5fp1d0fn/5C5mnacZvm
When being a ****ing pain in the ass- After first 2 hours:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lqqcnr8ypy7fvjn/iVfE9n0bP_
2hours later on same charge:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3cpaq079rhsn1ng/FuB8_HFr4Z
Pay attention to the deep sleep, no increase in 2hours...
I really like touchwiz, but I HATE that I am forced to have bad battery because of some retarded fault in kernel!!!
zipn said:
Hey guys, I have tryed to find same issue, but i dont seem to find anything that is exactly the same on this forum, yet i see it everywhere on the web/google.
I have a problem with my new 2weeks old note 3! It have problems maintaining a prober battery drain and its really pissing me off. I have to restart my phone everyday, its like its slowly building up overtime or overnight... mby even after i recharge it?
I wanted to post some links to my dropbox with screenshots of betterbatterystats and gsam battery, but cant right now because im new, so first up ill see if anyone have any idea without further explanation!
Im rdy to do allmost anything, but i have no idea how kernel and stuff like that can be fixed... :S
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Try Wakelock detector from Google play
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Try Wakelock detector from Google play
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Wow that looks much better than betterbatterystats, atleast easyer to understand! seems its samsung push and exchange mail that is the top users.. Could they both go under the category as a android kernel?
if you don't use exchange corporate mail you can freeze both apks. I use touchdown app for my corporate email, so those apps are also freezed.
I use the build in calendar, and its synced with my work calendar, so i use "Microsoft exchange activesync" to keep it updated. Could that really be the killer? according to gsam battery monitor my exchange "mail" is only 0.6% battery use while Kernel (Android OS) is 28.2% then its Android-System and then rest is below 2%..
Gonna share some screenshots when its gonna be available for me! This is really annoying me, knowing the phone can easly function and have battery for 2days+ the way i use it!
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It have problems maintaining a prober battery drain and its really pissing me off. I have to restart my phone everyday, its like its slowly building up overtime or overnight... mby even after i recharge it?
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When I have a battery drain the first thing I do is give the phone a soft reset. Switch your phone off, take the battery out for a minute, reinsert the battery, do a cache wipe (start up in recovery mode by press and hold VolumeUp-, Home- and On/Off-buttons at the same time, and choose "Wipe cache partition"), then reboot.
Usually that solves the problem. If not, then I will start investigating what is causing wake locks etc.
If everything fails, than I do a factory reset.
To my feeling, people in general tend to do the investigation too soon, leading to nothing and forget to do the soft reset first (which doesn't delete any settings, apps or data, so there's no reason not to try it).
I had an unexplainable battery drain two weeks ago, solved by a soft reset as described, perfect battery since.
In location services (in Google Maps) I've switched off Location History and Location Reporting, which are known battery drainers, but that's pretty much all I do to prevent battery drain. I did notice that Nova launcher takes more battery than the stock launcher, but not enough to skip using it (at least not for that reason).
congusto said:
When I have a battery drain the first thing I do is give the phone a soft reset. Switch your phone off, take the battery out for a minute, reinsert the battery, do a cache wipe (start up in recovery mode by press and hold VolumeUp-, Home- and On/Off-buttons at the same time, and choose "Wipe cache partition"), then reboot.
Usually that solves the problem. If not, then I will start investigating what is causing wake locks etc.
If everything fails, than I do a factory reset.
To my feeling, people in general tend to do the investigation too soon, leading to nothing and forget to do the soft reset first (which doesn't delete any settings, apps or data, so there's no reason not to try it).
I had an unexplainable battery drain two weeks ago, solved by a soft reset as described, perfect battery since.
In location services (in Google Maps) I've switched off Location History and Location Reporting, which are known battery drainers, but that's pretty much all I do to prevent battery drain. I did notice that Nova launcher takes more battery than the stock launcher, but not enough to skip using it (at least not for that reason).
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Even though it don't delete any settings etc. it still helps for some time. but my mobile is as close to stock as it can be, I hardly use anything that could cause this, except if its from android itself/samsung installations. Which it seems to be!
How often do you have to do such a painful reset? in my eyes, thats something you have to do, if its Broken!
Starting to belive its exchange, mail_service.
That specific one have 92x wakes in 2hours and all most 2mins used. I Think thats what keeps my phone from having deep sleep going. but its weird cause I only have it syncing calendar, which also show as a specific thing under the "mail_service" and it have like x2 wakes and less than 2sec used...
Apparently this bug is not new! Come on google!
I have read some people having kernel problems. .. and they have fixed it with changing kernel..
Do anyone know a good kernel for note3 ?
Speeking of the devil: today my Note3 wouldn't go into deep sleep again. Solved it by again by a soft reset, but start to wonder what triggers it. In my case I suspect the Tomtom app that I used yesterday, which gives me other problems as well every now and then (e.g. when the phone goes into stand by while Tomtom is running in the background).
I guess doing a soft reset on a regular basis is something I should do to keep my phone happy. In that, smart phones are not that different from PC's, which tend to show instability after a while as well if you don't restart them regularly.
But I do agree: in a perfect world it should not be necessary.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
Heres some of the pictures from working and not working!
When working:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vtvrrde5fp1d0fn/5C5mnacZvm
When being a ****ing pain in the ass- After first 2 hours:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lqqcnr8ypy7fvjn/iVfE9n0bP_
2hours later on same charge:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3cpaq079rhsn1ng/FuB8_HFr4Z
Pay attention to the deep sleep, no increase in 2hours...
I really like touchwiz, but I HATE that I am forced to have bad battery because of some retarded fault in kernel!!!
Just to make a thing clear though, I am not looking for battery saving tips etc. that would ruin the point of having a smartphone, its all those cool features that makes it worth buying. But knowing it can work WITH all these features and Not drain the battery, makes me crazy mad(I am at the point of returning it as being "defect")! It just destroys my experience of having it when I know something is not right. And it wasnt exactly cheap..
Anyone know anything about this?? Do the Screenshots help anyone? I am so close to the decission of rooting and then change kernel and rom this weekend if I dont find out why my phone is using this amount of power, When I know it dont have to!!
I've the same issue too on my completely stock set! Can't figure out what exactly is the culprit though ...
congusto said:
Speeking of the devil: todsuper attention to What I install So i know When it .ay my Note3 wouldn't go into deep sleep again. Solved it by again by a soft reset, but start to wonder what triggers it. In my case I suspect the Tomtom app that I used yesterday, which gives me other problems as well every now and then (e.g. when the phone goes into stand by while Tomtom is running in the background).
I guess doing a soft reset on a regular basis is something I should do to keep my phone happy. In that, smart phones are not that different from PC's, which tend to show instability after a while as well if you don't restart them regularly.
But I do agree: in a perfect world it should not be necessary.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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I just got totally fed up with it, so i did a factory reset and done minimal account bindings. So far it's working! So now I will just pay super attention to What I install. So i know When it goes wrong!
having similar issues recently..
and I can't detect what's wrong with BBS either :/
I am also having the same issue with my Note 3. Always the same thing. Works OK for some time after a soft reset and then starts not deep sleeping properly. When viewing at Battery usage it usually shoes "Media" or "Android OS" or "IndexerServices" as the number one.
I am happy with my Note 3 but it is really annoying knowing that your battery is being wasted without real usage.
Have someone contacted samsung or google about this?
Nice knowing I'm not the only the one with this Android OS causing battery drain when phone is idling.
Not nice knowing there isn't a solution yet.
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Nice knowing I'm not the only the one with this Android OS causing battery drain when phone is idling.
Not nice knowing there isn't a solution yet.
Lets keep this going, I am going to contact google about this when i figure out what it is, for now im just being super observing! I did a factory+cache reset this friday and now sunday evening its still working(didnt even charge it all weekend!!!)(https://www.dropbox.com/s/khjosuw9t207paf/Screenshot_2013-12-01-19-35-23.png) I havnt synced it with much yet, but I have a little bee buzzing in my ear, telling me that its very likely something with the samsung_push service/email. So atm I have NOT added any email to the phone. Going to charge it up over night, use it normally all day tomorrow AND- if it still works, ill then at evening add my work email and then do this kinda step by step and check when it ****s up. Cause who am I kidding, if I just contact google/samsung now, they wouldnt care ****.
any updates on this mystery?
Hey all,
Thanks for looking at this in advance.
Total Droid noob here...I purchased my first android device about 2 weeks ago, a Galaxy S5 on AT&T (Love it!)
Needless to say, I haven't really done much of anything out of the ordinary with it.
I've installed a few official Apps from the Play Store and nothing else. No custom roms, no random apps/packages from the web, etc.
Just today, my phone was sitting idle (asleep) next to me as it always does at my desk. I looked at it to check the battery and it showed about 51%. No issue at all with that...I used to it to read my RSS feeds, listen to Spotify, and a bunch of other things on my way into work.
However, maybe a little over an hour or so, I went back to check on it...and the device was completely off.
0% battery, completely drained...
I was baffled, but this was the second time I had seen this happen. The first time it I ignored it, figuring I was just drunk or something. But now, I feel like I'm going crazy!
A friend told me to check the 'Battery' info inside Settings.
Granted Instagram was high on that list, using like 14% of battery or whatever...but thats not what struck me. It was the graph depicting the battery use (SEE ATTACHED)
Notice that it went from ~30% to 0 pretty much instantly
Basically, I'm coming on here as a noob with a few questions:
is this normal? is this known? is there a solution? should I return my phone?
Thanks a ton for any help you all can provide.
Please let me know if you need any more information, screenshots, etc.
Nothing to worry about, mate. Stuff like that does happen time to time. It may have been miscalibration on the software part. If the problem persists, than you shoul check for the battery malfunction.
Regardless of the platform, sometimes an app misbehaves and causes abnormal battery usage.
When you notice your battery level decreasing at an alarming rate when idling, reboot the phone and it should be fine.
just2jays said:
Hey all,
Thanks for looking at this in advance.
Total Droid noob here...I purchased my first android device about 2 weeks ago, a Galaxy S5 on AT&T (Love it!)
Needless to say, I haven't really done much of anything out of the ordinary with it.
I've installed a few official Apps from the Play Store and nothing else. No custom roms, no random apps/packages from the web, etc.
Just today, my phone was sitting idle (asleep) next to me as it always does at my desk. I looked at it to check the battery and it showed about 51%. No issue at all with that...I used to it to read my RSS feeds, listen to Spotify, and a bunch of other things on my way into work.
However, maybe a little over an hour or so, I went back to check on it...and the device was completely off.
0% battery, completely drained...
I was baffled, but this was the second time I had seen this happen. The first time it I ignored it, figuring I was just drunk or something. But now, I feel like I'm going crazy!
A friend told me to check the 'Battery' info inside Settings.
Granted Instagram was high on that list, using like 14% of battery or whatever...but thats not what struck me. It was the graph depicting the battery use (SEE ATTACHED)
Notice that it went from ~30% to 0 pretty much instantly
Basically, I'm coming on here as a noob with a few questions:
is this normal? is this known? is there a solution? should I return my phone?
Thanks a ton for any help you all can provide.
Please let me know if you need any more information, screenshots, etc.
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I am from another device (Sony Xperia Z1) and I suffer the same problem with you bro. Still figuring how to fix this. This is freaking me out. :crying: