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Hello,
Now it's fully official.
Android 7 will be released officially on January, 28 2017
m.gsmarena.com/zuk_announces_android_70_nougat_update_plans_for_the_z2_pro_and_z1-news-22050.php
The Chinese character 內測 in the image means "test internally".
The 7.0 test internally was OTA today. Maybe the stable one will be released before Chinese new year (about five weeks later).
on print screen is missing dark theme... I hope they would include it..
For those who would like to update here is the link to the forum to try 2.5.335ST version.
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads...ion-updated-link-for-2-5-335-st-version.1801/
looks almost the same after got updated to ZUI2.5...
does 7.0 on the update brings manual controls on the camera?
cheeze.keyk said:
does 7.0 on the update brings manual controls on the camera?
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Yes, yes it does. This is also known as the ZUI 2.5 update, by the way.
Welcome to the party, however late.
Terminator.J said:
Yes, yes it does. This is also known as the ZUI 2.5 update, by the way.
Welcome to the party, however late.
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Thanks! though i dont own a ZUK Z2 Pro, I'm just curious bout this device, how about the camera quality did it improve in Nougat? :good:
cheeze.keyk said:
Thanks! though i dont own a ZUK Z2 Pro, I'm just curious bout this device, how about the camera quality did it improve in Nougat? :good:
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I didn't have it before 2.5 was available, so I never tested it on the older builds. It's a decent camera, although you really want to be on stock ZUI to take advantage of it.
Realistically, if I had to choose again, I would probably save the money and get the regular Z2 instead; the custom ROM scene is much better, longer battery life, and no issues with the Z2 Pro camera's OIS getting physically stuck due to Camera2-based drivers not knowing how to deal with it properly. And no worrying about missing U-Health, since it doesn't have the finger sensor.
Hi All,
As the title states: I have an unlocked Pixel XL directly from Google. Popped in a Verizon SIM a few months back and it works perfectly. The Android O Update arrived and I chose to move forward.
Overall - Android O is great. The one thing that I have noticed is that my battery life has decreased. Android Nougat had amazing battery life on the Pixel.
Has anyone experienced this issue with Android O? I am not rooted.
996
I've experienced issues with voice typing not working, and voice texting showing a black white screen, yet working.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
My experience is there is slight lag that Nougat never had, battery drain is bad, and many things that worked for me in Nougat stopped in Oreo like auto tethering.
Most of these issues will probably resolved over time by Google and the developers who make apps we use, and I just installed Google play services version 948 to see if it fixes battery drain. I'm learning the more Google goes in the direction of security they are going, the longer fixes and updates for things that stop working with major upgrades takes. I am surprised nothing for Oreo in Rom development has been released other than Elemental X, but I am spoiled and should have learned the development patience that was Pixel when it first came out.
The performance/smoothness since Oreo release has been simply fantastic for me. On Nougat I always had the random freezing issue, which drove me bonkers, would have sold the phone had it continued like that, but Oreo has got rid of the problem totally and the performance of the device has been top notch for last two weeks since I am using Oreo. So that's a huge plus for me.
Other than that I don't appreciate some of the UI changes done. Like the reduced font size of Lockscreen date and clock, the date especially is very hard to notice at slight glance. The white notification pull down is killing my eyes. The new settings menu though looks clean enough.
Some apps have started working erratic though, like the call recorder I use doesn't work half the time now, but given Oreo is out for two weeks only that's understandable. However the preview Betas ran for months before the official release, so that's one thing.
About batter backup, well, on WiFi its either on par with Nougat or slightly better, but on data/LTE its simply worse.
All in all, as first release, I like it, I am a smoothness freak and as long as UI reacts buttery I am all good.
Don't like the UI changes.
Battery life as far as screen on time is somewhat lower than on N.
Its cool to have LDAC and AptX BT support, but its not always reliable and i notice it reverts to SBC frequently and require re-pair of device (mainly my car head unit).
PowerAmp no longer thinks the Pixel supports HiFI DAC.....so my very nice USB DAC is no longer amazing sounding. (worked fine on N)
Like above, my battery life has been subpar, as well as the other day my phone repeatedly would overheat within a minute of booting. Like very hot, and then would shut off.
We've already been talking about all that over here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/android-8-0-oreo-factory-images-t3660219
I must say I'm rather impressed being the X is an older phone yet it receives the new security updates rather quickly.. Just got May's update..
yes sony , for unknown reason included X on android 8 project
lilbrat said:
I must say I'm rather impressed being the X is an older phone
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Everything is fine, welcome to Extended support cycle from Sony. Its hardware is still great, so why not update it?
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yes sony , for unknown reason included X on android 8 project
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What unknown? What? Is this device have some problems? Maybe its CPU overheats? Maybe it has bad drivers? Maybe it's running on MTK?
There's everything obvious - Xperia X is still a great device, and it SHOULD get every security update.
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Everything is fine, welcome to Extended support cycle from Sony. Its hardware is still great, so why not update it?
What unknown? What? Is this device have some problems? Maybe its CPU overheats? Maybe it has bad drivers? Maybe it's running on MTK?
There's everything obvious - Xperia X is still a great device, and it SHOULD get every security update.
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Initially X was never part of ANdroid 8 when sony released software binaries. however it was last minute include. the line was drawn at X-perf
It feels good how finally Android 8 is running stable on X however as daily driver and with burden of social apps. X starts lagging and overheats as you said! , many functions and camera don't work.
X is not MTK device
YasuHamed said:
Initially X was never part of ANdroid 8 when sony released software binaries.
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Lies. It was obvious from the start that it will get Oreo. Software binaries? Do you mean SODP ones?
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It feels good how finally Android 8 is running stable on X...
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It was running great from the start. Maybe only camera was a little worse.
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...however as daily driver and with burden of social apps. X starts lagging and overheats as you said! , many functions and camera don't work.
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That's only a problem of YOUR PERSONAL device. My X is neither lagging nor overheating even in a hot situations (tested in my bathroom with 41 gradus temperature, runs great). I don't have any problems with my X, neither all my X users I know from 4PDA. So stop telling people that Oreo is bad when YOUR device overheats and lags, please.
I suggest you to visit some local repair shops and ask them for checking your cooling system.
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Lies. It was obvious from the start that it will get Oreo. Software binaries? Do you mean SODP ones?
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personal attacks aside!
on this road map xperia X and X performance was added later, sony had cut-off taken for OREO for XZ PROJECT ONLY! however later two X devices added, A post was on xda did mention last year how Sony has announced to discontinue X and Xc when it was just on 7.0 only! back then everyone was hoping that it should get atleast 7.1, if not Oreo!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/how-to/futur-x-t3614147 <------check yourself
also sony added X, Xp and Xc later in 2017 for Oreo! the original cutoff was til XZ project only! X family was not part of it inicially
https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/08/31/xperia-android-8-0-oreo/
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It was running great from the start. Maybe only camera was a little worse.
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the Camera still cant record hd video more than 40 secons and shuts down due to heat.
Gray47Maxx said:
That's only a problem of YOUR PERSONAL device. My X is neither lagging nor overheating even in a hot situations (tested in my bathroom with 41 gradus temperature, runs great). I don't have any problems with my X, neither all my X users I know from 4PDA. So stop telling people that Oreo is bad when YOUR device overheats and lags, please.
I suggest you to visit some local repair shops and ask them for checking your cooling system.
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I own two Xperia X, Black and Lime, so there goes your argument.
also its not my personal opinion and as Hardware there is NOTHING wrong with Xperia X. we are talking about software part.
I have tried my Black X with Omnirom 7.1.1 and 8.1 and the same X has
1. Amazing Batter Life
2. No overheating
3. no Lagging
4. Camera works perfect and records 4K
since you are using my modded kernels and ROOT ACCESS allows you to modify Oreo by having different modes in Magisks and/or control bloatware etc.
I would suggest you to flash oreo .2.70 right-away and use untouched for one weak with all the bells ringing and we will see
YasuHamed said:
personal attacks aside!
on this road map xperia X and X performance was added later, sony had cut-off taken for OREO for XZ PROJECT ONLY! however later two X devices added, A post was on xda did mention last year how Sony has announced to discontinue X and Xc when it was just on 7.0 only! back then everyone was hoping that it should get atleast 7.1, if not Oreo!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/how-to/futur-x-t3614147 <------check yourself
also sony added X, Xp and Xc later in 2017 for Oreo! the original cutoff was til XZ project only! X family was not part of it inicially
https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/08/31/xperia-android-8-0-oreo/
the Camera still cant record hd video more than 40 secons and shuts down due to heat.
I own two Xperia X, Black and Lime, so there goes your argument.
also its not my personal opinion and as Hardware there is NOTHING wrong with Xperia X. we are talking about software part.
I have tried my Black X with Omnirom 7.1.1 and 8.1 and the same X has
1. Amazing Batter Life
2. No overheating
3. no Lagging
4. Camera works perfect and records 4K
since you are using my modded kernels and ROOT ACCESS allows you to modify Oreo by having different modes in Magisks and/or control bloatware etc.
I would suggest you to flash oreo .2.70 right-away and use untouched for one weak with all the bells ringing and we will see
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So do you mean nougat has much better battery than Oreo?
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So do you mean nougat has much better battery than Oreo?
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Due to the following features I am using Oreo (XGEN) build on .2.50
1. Better Screen Resolution/Tone ( the tint in Oreo on screen is soothing to eyes as compare to N)
2. Cleartype ScreenFonts
3. Nighlight
4. Notification settings options and panel
5. Setting Menu simplified (a bit better than Nougat)
-- however these are all UI and cosmetic affects
I was happier and relaxed on the final build .252 (came dec17) android 7.1.1. I kept switching back to .252 after trying first two Oreo builds which I found horrible in terms of battery life & overheating; and its not just me, many user reported the same on various posts (in and out of XDA forums) about how after upgrading to Oreo they are facing overheating and battery drain issues. when X overheats it starts lagging.
10April18 build .2.50 (third attempt) has been quite better than its predecessor builds but still can't compete with dec17 build .252.
REMEMBER, my comparison / observation is on ROOTED Xperia-X
YasuHamed said:
Due to the following features I am using Oreo (XGEN) build on .2.50
1. Better Screen Resolution/Tone ( the tint in Oreo on screen is soothing to eyes as compare to N)
2. Cleartype ScreenFonts
3. Nighlight
4. Notification settings options and panel
5. Setting Menu simplified (a bit better than Nougat)
-- however these are all UI and cosmetic affects
I was happier and relaxed on the final build .252 (came dec17) android 7.1.1. I kept switching back to .252 after trying first two Oreo builds which I found horrible in terms of battery life & overheating; and its not just me, many user reported the same on various posts (in and out of XDA forums) about how after upgrading to Oreo they are facing overheating and battery drain issues. when X overheats it starts lagging.
10April18 build .2.50 (third attempt) has been quite better than its predecessor builds but still can't compete with dec17 build .252.
REMEMBER, my comparison / observation is on ROOTED Xperia-X
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Yea I will for sure root all my android device so I needed some opinion on rooted device. Guess I might go back to nougat sometimes
coconutxyz said:
Yea I will for sure root all my android device so I needed some opinion on rooted device. Guess I might go back to nougat sometimes
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i feel the same! i will go back to nougat once sony discontinue supporting X
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A post was on xda did mention last year how Sony has announced to discontinue X and Xc when it was just on 7.0 only! back then everyone was hoping that it should get atleast 7.1, if not Oreo!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/how-to/futur-x-t3614147 <------check yourself
also sony added X, Xp and Xc later in 2017 for Oreo! the original cutoff was til XZ project only! X family was not part of it inicially
https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/08/31/xperia-android-8-0-oreo/
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I can't remember the original roadmap, but I can't trust XDA as well. So there you may be right.
UPD: You are wrong. It was included in the list from the start: proof, not updated. Wayback Machine link provided as well.
P.S. What a ridiculous source of the info - just a random guy.
YasuHamed said:
the Camera still cant record hd video more than 40 secons and shuts down due to heat.
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Do you need my FHD 60 FPS video recorded on X without any additional cooling systems? I can provide one.
YasuHamed said:
I own two Xperia X, Black and Lime, so there goes your argument.
also its not my personal opinion and as Hardware there is NOTHING wrong with Xperia X. we are talking about software part.
I have tried my Black X with Omnirom 7.1.1 and 8.1 and the same X has
1. Amazing Batter Life
2. No overheating
3. no Lagging
4. Camera works perfect and records 4K
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I have the same on stock Oreo, everything except the first point. OmniROM (and k4.4 in general) are more optimized.
YasuHamed said:
since you are using my modded kernels and ROOT ACCESS allows you to modify Oreo by having different modes in Magisks and/or control bloatware etc.
I would suggest you to flash oreo .2.70 right-away and use untouched for one weak with all the bells ringing and we will see
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Nice challenge!)
I'd like to accept it, but since I was already using Oreo on locked bl (before your kernel was released for 5121), I can share some thoughts. It was running stable, maybe camera was a little bit worse than I expected. No overheat (was it because of a winter?), no lags, no anything. It was a clean and stable ROM. So...
But thanks for the idea of challenge like this. I have a guy with untouched X, so maybe he will tell something there.
over-heating
Hi Guys,
My Xperia-X is replaced in this may month in warranty.
After replaced I am feeling too much overheating.
From the first day, I have an update to latest may security update.
Now I don't know this over-heating is due to may update or again I got faulty hardware by Sony.
What about you guys do you feel over-heating especially after may update?
Hey folks, heads up June update is out and about..
1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media? all they had to do is allow the user to decide what volume to adjust via hardware keys in the sound settings...
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie". I got a clue for you google, Bring back KitKat design in material and include ticker notifications in your next major revision. Hardly anyone complained about UI's in ICS, Jellybean and KitKat. You guys did a great job until you decided it was time to copy Apple in 5.0.
3) Superior notification/quick with sub-menus for Bluetooth and WIFI. Why was this removed? This isn't quite as dumb as scrapping ticker notifications for heads up to copy Crapple but it's definitely pretty damn close.
4) Split screen mode is a completely seamless experience on Oreo, it's complete trash on Pie unless you run an adb command to remove the Pixel launcher which I bet 60% out of the 75% who updated won't even know about.
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up. This does happen but it's a very minor reason why I prefer being on the final release of Oreo.
6) Recent's is far superior on Oreo (Although you can still revert or Oreo recent's by removing Google Launcher but the majority of consumers do not know this)
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices.-We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution. This means way more application support on 8.x
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one. Seriously... Doze is so powerful, why not just add some profiles to the OS so even the most basic of users can tweak it (or hell, add it to developer settings)... AI is not the answer. Simple settings to config when your device goes into doze mode is... it's your most powerful battery saving feature in Android. Use it....
9) Adaptive brightness is reliable on Oreo & Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie, AI can't seem to get it right. Surprise surprise.
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in SystemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. How is this rocket science? or better yet! allow the user to configure it, haven't you guys realized by now that the center clock mod is super popular among your enthusiasts? I personally don't use it but it's been a very popular mod for half a decade here on XDA and you know people will use it so why not just add it? Oh wait, you guys needed to add a feature to show what music is playing in Wal-mart on the lockscreen. Cool, I guess... the feature is so bad its off by default lol.
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!
Danvdh said:
1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media?
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie"
3)Much better notification/quick toggles pull down with sub-menus for bluetooth and wifi. Why did Google remove this?
4) Split screen mode is usable again! videos actually play!
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up, I like the piece of mind that my phone will stay on the final Oreo update until I feel Pie is stable enough (9.1?)
6) Multitasking is faster (Although it can be sorted by removing Google Launcher but the majority of consumers do not know this)
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices Source: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/ - We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution.
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one.
9) Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in systemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. Seriously, do this!!!
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!
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I get it.
I flashed Pie the other day for the first time but I too am tempted to go back. I miss having my Smartbar navigation mods. The circular icons for quick toggles aren't growing on me. A couple of apps don't work that I used to use.
Performance and battery life is grewt, but the upgrade isn't significant enough for me to stay.... I'm tempted to go back!
I want Oreo back too, but the version I got "unlocked" turned out to be a Verizon variant and my attempt to OTA rollback failed.
But really guys, new things and changes are parts of life, why complaining? You don't want new updates? Buy a Samsung non flagship phone and stay with Oreo forever.
well... thought about finally manually updating to pie today.... now, not so much. I do agree with the notch.... wtf
I've tried Pie, and admittedly there are some good elements, however Google gives us no choices. How hard would it be to have a clock placement setting? How hard would it be to have a full dark theme? How hard would it be to offer a choice on dual window layout? Oreo was tried and true and it feels like many things were changed just for the sake of change. Apparently the recent apps menu can even be reverted deleting files via ADB so why not give people choices? I love the speed and fluidity of stock Android, but must say Samsung, LG, and custom ROMs have an advantage on getting things exactly how you want them. Perhaps Android 10 will finally give users choices again.
The fact that Google plays games with what versions of the Pixel 2 XL can be bootloader unlocked is very disappointing as well. There should be a clearly identified way to tell other than some IMEI checker. I'd love to OTA back to Oreo, but can't and am stuck with a UI I can do nothing to tweak. My only option is deal with it or sell this phone.
Xposed and well duh!
Sent from my Google Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs
Danvdh said:
1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media?
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie"
3)Much better notification/quick toggles pull down with sub-menus for bluetooth and wifi. Why did Google remove this?
4) Split screen mode is usable again! videos actually play!
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up, I like the piece of mind that my phone will stay on the final Oreo update until I feel Pie is stable enough (9.1?)
6) Multitasking is faster (Although it can be sorted by removing Google Launcher but the majority of consumers do not know this)
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices Source: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/ - We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution. This means way more application support on 8.x
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one.
9) Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in systemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. Seriously, do this!!!
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!
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How did you go back to Oreo? what is a safe way to do it? is side load of Oreo firmware for my Canadian brand will do it?
Thanks - Itzik
I am still on Oreo with my pixel and wont go to Pie anytime soon! I need to root oreo and rock it now!
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I am still on Oreo with my pixel and wont go to Pie anytime soon! I need to root oreo and rock it now!
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You can root Pie as well. However, if you use xposed, then don't :good:
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You can root Pie as well. However, if you use xposed, then don't :good:
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i would use xposed so no pie for me lol
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How did you go back to Oreo? what is a safe way to do it? is side load of Oreo firmware for my Canadian brand will do it?
Thanks - Itzik
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I did a full data wipe in TWRP, flashed the latest 8.1 rom with deuces script and then once back to 8.1 flashed Resurrection Remix custom rom etc
Pie looks nothing like iOS to me
I'm also tempted to go back to Oreo. I don't like many of Googles changes with Pie and that they are following apple in many things.
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I'm also tempted to go back to Oreo. I don't like many of Googles changes with Pie and that they are following apple in many things.
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its a well oiled machine. I don't regret it for a second.
just got my pixel2xl come with 8.1
after my OG Pixel got pie, and it's feels not right, and i READ this, i decided to not update my pixel2xl
everything you said is true.
Having the Verizon Pixel 2 XL, I was unable to roll back. My options were to sell it and get a Google version or trade it for an LG V35 ThinQ and end up ahead. I went for the V35 and to be honest, I'm much happier with it. LG really improved the display over the Pixel 2 XL. The Snapdragon 845 is noticeably faster, 6 GB RAM offsets any efficiency difference. The headphone jack and MicroSD card support are a huge plus. Best of all, using LG themes and Substratum, I was able to get a clean dark theme without root.
I had a good run with the Pixel 2 XL on Oreo but it was time to move on. Yes, I realize that the V35 will get Pie eventually, but the framework for themes and customization is already there.
Over 75% of Pixel users are on Android Pie — why not more?
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/15/75-percent-pixel-users-android-pie/
Because of people like you! Just jokes. [emoji4]
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just bought pixel 2 xl and this october security update is really ****ty, even zooming photos and just panning in photos app gives jitters. can i revert back to september or august security update without unlocking the bootloader or rooting?
ashish7adlakha said:
just bought pixel 2 xl and this october security update is really ****ty, even zooming photos and just panning in photos app gives jitters. can i revert back to september or august security update without unlocking the bootloader or rooting?
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Nope. Bootloader needs to be unlocked. You don't need to be rooted.
Hello, I've been on the fence for a very long time with getting a OnePlus device. I was finally ALMOST ready to buy the 8 pro but the curved screen kept me away. I've always stuck with the pixel and have had no problems with them besides the terrible screen restate. I really wanted to buy the 8T pro until I saw what they did to the UI in os 11. I really don't care for Samsung at all. Will OnePlus still be the ultimate stock Android ? Is the core OnePlus community happy with os 11 UI overhaul at all?
If I had known coming from a Pixel 2xl, I would have waited. Not happy with it at all.
Hardware is nice for sure, but camera software is subpar imo and poor 5ghz wifi has me puzzled still.
That said I would get a OnePlus over anything else... Maybe just not a good pixel phone.
Sent from my IN2025 using Tapatalk
I left Pixels & Samsung for the OnePlus, and have not looked back! 8Pro is an excellent ddd (daily driver device)??
galaxys said:
I left Pixels & Samsung for the OnePlus, and have not looked back! 8Pro is an excellent ddd (daily driver device)
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So how do you feel about the new UI ? It's so close to samsung now ?
Not concerned until I have the official stock ota on my 8pro to do hands-on!
Don't be worried about the UI. I'd people complain they'll change it, some respect the same from Samsung.
Plus with the development in XDA and the like you can rest assured that other ROMs will be available.
Bare in mind this move from OnePlus is to steal Samsung customers, they've already done that Vs the ultra, I'm one of them.
Thank God I didn't buy the ultra (ordered but it didn't come, Exynos is a turd)
Paranoid Android, carbon ROM, lineage, several Magisk ROMs,, there's even miui and Nubia lol,, don't worry about the new 11, plus things can still change, I'm sure anyone helping with the alpha and beta versions are reporting that.
I'm remaining optimistic about 11, might be alone in that but what else can I do?
At this point in time and since it's launch, there is no better phone than the 8 pro, installed a GCam app today and that's pretty much sorted the camera for me, wasn't bad to begin with
Never cared for Samsungs One UI, preferred Cyanogen/LinageOS any day on any Samsung (as long as it was a device where the correct RIL was anailavle, for obvious reasons). On all Samsungs, and OnePluses I've had I've pretty much always used Nova Launcher (as I would on any Pixel too). So, the only place where I actually notice any OEM UI:s is on the settings page... And ind the case of OP8 A11 (as I'm currently using as daily driver), I actually kind of like it. It's smooth, easy. Especially in dark mode (I always use dark mode). I'm all for it. I like the fact that OP does this instead och forcing a bunch of apps on us (Samsung-style) and weird framework changes. This is no reason to "not get a OP device" if you ask me.
efex said:
Never cared for Samsungs One UI, preferred Cyanogen/LinageOS any day on any Samsung (as long as it was a device where the correct RIL was anailavle, for obvious reasons). On all Samsungs, and OnePluses I've had I've pretty much always used Nova Launcher (as I would on any Pixel too). So, the only place where I actually notice any OEM UI:s is on the settings page... And ind the case of OP8 A11 (as I'm currently using as daily driver), I actually kind of like it. It's smooth, easy. Especially in dark mode (I always use dark mode). I'm all for it. I like the fact that OP does this instead och forcing a bunch of apps on us (Samsung-style) and weird framework changes. This is no reason to "not get a OP device" if you ask me.
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Couldn't agree more.