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First up, hello to everyone.
I'm a new convert to Android having picked up a Galaxy S a couple of weeks ago, and I've got a couple of (what I'm sure are) basic questions about how best to work it:
First up, how do I go about creating folders on my SD Card. I'm assuming that's the best way to organise things like icons, themes, wallpapers etc.
Is it possible to edit the icons on the dock at the bottom of the screen? Can I put different Apps down there? Can I change the icons that those apps use?
I'm having issues with Widgets - do I need to restart the phone each time I install an app with a widget? There are some apps which allow me to use a widget straight away, but then there are some (like the BBC news feed) which just doesn't show up in my widget list
Can anyone reccomend a good link or article on how to root the Galaxy S? I'd like to it be as simplified as possible please.
Thanks loads in advance for both your help and your time.
Cheers
1)while browsing your sd card, press menu button and it will you the option to create a folder
2)click on applications button while on home screen to change to applications view, then click menu (left button) and edit, then you can just drag the icons in and out of the dock
3)not sure, widgets that i tried all ran after installing them without rebooting the phone
4)I suggest you check out the Galaxy S I9000 Android Development subforum right here on xda, there are some great guides there.
1) I just do it when plugged into my PC via USB in Mass Storage mode. =)
2) As random.si said.
3) I've never needed to restart the phone for widget...are you sure those apps actually have widgets?...Any widgets from the Market or installed apps should always be under 'Android Widgets' as soon as the app is installed, otherwise try using the app first as it may have a config or something.
4) There's a stickied guide in the Android Development subforum here! It's dead easy, so no worries there. Just follow the instructions to the letter, but that's not hard for rooting the Galaxy S.
Hi there. Could you just tell me how to close running application? There is 6 application when i open my task manager (middle button for 3 sec) and i cant do anything with them. Is there any button to close application, not minimalize?
Like now i'm installing facebook and setting up my account. Phone seems to hanging. I dont know how to close it?
mika34 said:
Hi there. Could you just tell me how to close running application? There is 6 application when i open my task manager (middle button for 3 sec) and i cant do anything with them. Is there any button to close application, not minimalize?
Like now i'm installing facebook and setting up my account. Phone seems to hanging. I dont know how to close it?
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Applications open in the background don't use any CPU time and if the RAM they use is needed Android closes them by itself.
Android isn't designed to let the user close applications. If you really have to close them for some specific reason you can use a task killer from the market.
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Hi there. Could you just tell me how to close running application? There is 6 application when i open my task manager (middle button for 3 sec) and i cant do anything with them. Is there any button to close application, not minimalize?
Like now i'm installing facebook and setting up my account. Phone seems to hanging. I dont know how to close it?
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Actually those 6 applications are NOT actually running(necessarily).They are just the last 6 applications you have used.
saldawop said:
Actually those 6 applications are NOT actually running(necessarily).They are just the last 6 applications you have used.
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Ok. Thanks very much guys for your help.
One more question.
How to enable vibration to incoming text message? Can`t see any option for that.
You should try out prehome. When you press home key, it will show the active task, and you can switch or kill task there. Press home key the second time will bring you to home. I love it.
Does anybody knows how to set vibration on incoming messages? Can`t find it. strange
mika34 said:
Does anybody knows how to set vibration on incoming messages? Can`t find it. strange
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Messages > Menu button > settings. It's at the bottom : D
Rawat said:
Messages > Menu button > settings. It's at the bottom : D
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Big thx for that.
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Big thx for that.
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If ever in doubt, always try the menu buttons.
Pretty much every app hides its settings and many controls under the menu buttons to stop the screen being cluttered up with buttons.
The menu button is also context-sensitive to whatever you're doing at the time, so you just need to get used to remembering it's there.
As the previous guys said, Android is designed to not have specific 'closing' or exiting of apps. Rather, they'll hide themselves in the background and once the system needs to free up some ram it'll close once you haven't used for a while automatically in preference of those using the most RAM. It will also usually save the state of that app, so if you go to use it again and Android has already closed it, it will still appear where you left off but just take a bit longer to start since it was cleared from the background.
Most apps will fully close however if you exit by using the back button (bottom-right touch button on the phone), basically reversing your way out of the app until you hit the home screens.
Holding the Home button shows the last 6 apps you had open, whether they're still running in the background or not. It's just a quick way to jump between stuff rather than an actual task manager.
In the JM2 firmware Samsung have added a great widget and task manager app. The widget shows the number of apps still running in the background, as well as a colour for if they're draining battery or performance (ie: processing lots in the background). All you need to do is touch the widget and it'll take you straight to a list where you can close any. Very handy!
While it's easy to get obsessed with using one of the task killer apps on the market all the time, I eventually found with my old Hero that it performed just as well if you ignore what it's doing with RAM or apps since it's intelligent enough to prioritise and close appropriate background stuff without your intervention.
The only reason people were recommending task killers for the Galaxy S was because of the random lags / stalls caused by bugs in the firmware, some of which were caused by it not closing stuff or managing itself properly in the background.
My advice: JM2 firmware and just use the Samsung task manager widget as a guide to if for some reason something high-powered like a game was left open and Android didn't clean it up yet.
Phone number format
How can I change the format of the phone number which is displayed when I have an incoming call ? Thanks ?
While writing SMS, contacts displayed twice
Hi to all,
When I write an SMS and want to choose a contact, they all appear twice, even tough in the phonebook they only appear once because I ticked the option of displaying only contacts from the phone and not from the sim card.
Is there a similar option in SMS that I'm missing here?
Thanks in advance,
Itay
Glad to see this thread has taken off a bit.
One more question from me:
random.si said:
1)while browsing your sd card, press menu button and it will you the option to create a folder
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I'm assuming I need some sort of File Explorer app to be able to do this - can anyone recommend one?
Cheers
Astro file explorer
is there any way to stop sms being converted to multimedia message? if i write a text message consisting of more than 3 messages (i believe 180 characters) it converts it to multimedia, which costs me!!!
Hi!
After applying the "one click lag fix" and installing the Autokiller app my Gmail app disappeared from the recent app list which comes up after long pressing the home button.
Is there any workaround to get it back in the list?
Thx!
Phandroid said:
Hi!
After applying the "one click lag fix" and installing the Autokiller app my Gmail app disappeared from the recent app list which comes up after long pressing the home button.
Is there any workaround to get it back in the list?
Thx!
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Just maually launch the GMail app and it will show up in the list. The list shows 6 recently launched apps, not recently intalled apps, nor favorite apps.
foxbat121 said:
The list shows 6 recently launched apps, not recently intalled apps, nor favorite apps.
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Erm... it's not quite what I asked, sorry. I said it doesn't show up in the list anymore, not that I just installed it or that it's my favourite app.
Even if it's running in background I can't select it - cause it's not there anymore.
Any help?
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Erm... it's not quite what I asked, sorry. I said it doesn't show up in the list anymore, not that I just installed it or that it's my favourite app.
Even if it's running in background I can't select it - cause it's not there anymore.
Any help?
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So you mean it even disappeared from the programm menu ? It´s because the recent programm list (long pressing Homebutton) ist different to the programm menu. At least there it should appear. If you launch it from there it will show again in recent programm list.
Come on guys... it's not my first day of using the phone.
It's in the programm menu, it's widget is my homescreen - it just doesn't appear in the "recent program list" anymore. So I can't switch, say, between my browser and my Gmail app anymore.
I don't know how I should explain it in a different way. The app doesn't show up in the recent program list anymore when I long press the home button. It's gone, even if it's running in background and was the LAST app I had opened.
So? Doesn't somebody know something about this?
Visual Task Switcher would be an alternative. I quite like the app, it's a bit slow when using default (home to launch), but when launching from the home page, widgetlocker or quickdesk it's super fast and I find it to be more functional than the recent app list.
So to summerize what OP says: GMail doesn't register as a recently used app, either when launched from the application list or from a widget.
Now that's really strange indeed.
The lagfixes out there do move key Android datastores around, so the obvious test would be to undo the lagfix and see if the problem persists.
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So to summerize what OP says: GMail doesn't register as a recently used app, either when launched from the application list or from a widget.
Now that's really strange indeed.
The lagfixes out there do move key Android datastores around, so the obvious test would be to undo the lagfix and see if the problem persists.
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Your summary its absolutely correct, that's my problem.
I guess you're right, I should undo the fix and check it out. But first I should nandroid my device. However the result turns out, I will keep the OCLF and will have to live with with the error if it persists. I also seem to be the only person having ever encountered the error.
I just thought there could a workaround to get it fixed.
You say it does not register as a recent app. Maybe that's the point where one could look for a solution...
Maybe try clearing the cache and data of the gmail app then reboot?
Dont worry Phandroid, I just noticed Im having the same issue. I just yesterday updated from jf5 to jm2 with Kies and I've not applied any lagfix. Also, I'm 80% sure I had this issue bäwith older firmware also.
I will try to find out a solution.
Edit: Okay, I realized that when launching from menu it does appear on recent programs list, but launched from desktop it doesn't. I remoced Gmail desktop shorcut and readded it and now it appears correctly.
Fihlvein said:
Edit: Okay, I realized that when launching from menu it does appear on recent programs list, but launched from desktop it doesn't. I remoced Gmail desktop shorcut and readded it and now it appears correctly.
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OMG! Why in the world didn't I think of such a simple solution? It worked indeed. Thank you very very much!
Great
Gmail was auto-added on desktop by default with the firmware so that probably had something to do with it not appearing on recently ran apps list. Other apps that were on desktop by default I've removed so I cannot test if it concerns all default app shortcuts...
Heya is there any way to closed programs throw the side bar on android 3.2.1?
I cant closed it and it too many apps running on background and it make my tab too slow.
Please help me out
Thanks
When you are done with an app use the back button to close it, the ones that show in the bar are recent, it doesn't necessarily mean they are running.
Sent from my A500
>DARKMAN< said:
When you are done with an app use the back button to close it, the ones that show in the bar are recent, it doesn't necessarily mean they are running.
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I echo his sentiment; you usually close applications by pressing the back button several times or selecting "Quit" or similar from menu. Pressing home button or switching to another application via the recent-menu leaves the app still running. Ie. try to use the back button more often.
Also, if you wish to see actual list of running applications and be able to force quit them, then I could suggest Advanced Task Manager ( https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hcnJvbi50YXNrTWFuYWdlciJd ) on Android Market; I have that one installed myself and it works just peachy.
WereCatf said:
I echo his sentiment; you usually close applications by pressing the back button several times or selecting "Quit" or similar from menu. Pressing home button or switching to another application via the recent-menu leaves the app still running. Ie. try to use the back button more often.
Also, if you wish to see actual list of running applications and be able to force quit them, then I could suggest Advanced Task Manager ( https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hcnJvbi50YXNrTWFuYWdlciJd ) on Android Market; I have that one installed myself and it works just peachy.
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this is exactly as how things should be done.. Only difference i use Advanced task killer Widget. But i set its settings to all off.. Especially Auto kill. and when ever i see there are things that decided on there own to run i just tap the widget on home screen and they are gone.You can also long tap and select what you wish to Kill. Its preference to use as to what one you use.. Just be sure it does not run in background. or it will become one of the things your trying to prevent .
Read this to understand why closing these is not unnecessary (other than for privacy reasons)
Task Killers... The Answer from Google & Developers
There are some ROMs that allow for this. However as the person above me pointed ot, its unnecessary. ICS has the built in ability to remove appps from the multitasking menu. I don't know if this suspends the app or something like that, or not.
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Not neccesary with ICS
In ICS you just have to slide the aplications on the lists to the sides and they will dissapear.
Cr0ssb0n3s said:
In ICS you just have to slide the aplications on the lists to the sides and they will dissapear.
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anyone else noticed that even if you slide to close the app in ics if you go to running services you find the app is in fact still running? and to clarify i am talking apps that are not using outside services like updates/wifi
chisme said:
anyone else noticed that even if you slide to close the app in ics if you go to running services you find the app is in fact still running? and to clarify i am talking apps that are not using outside services like updates/wifi
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This is correct. Swiping away the app simply removes it from the list. I learned this when I Home buttoned out of Grand Theft Auto III, swiped to the right and it was still running in the background. Pretty much, it takes a task-killer to absolutely, positively stop an app. But, unless it's effecting your battery life, using wifi, or Bluetooth, there's not a huge need to kill apps. Android has some pretty smart algorithms to manage resources...making task killers unnecessary. You should only kill apps if you're sure they're effecting overall performance.
I was just wondering if someone knew what was going on when you swipe away an app in the app switcher. (I'm not sure what the proper name is for the 3rd soft button so my searches haven't proved very useful - although I'm sure this information is out there!)
To be clear, you know how you can cycle between open apps by hitting the 3rd soft button? And you can also 'swipe away' an app here. Does this shut the app down along with all related processes? Does anyone know what's going on behind the scenes?
For example if I lose my twitter app this way I no longer get tweet notifications, but if I close gmail I do get email updates - but perhaps the latter is more tightly integrated or maybe I've remembered this behaviour wrong!
I guess what I'm really trying to understand is if this is the easiest way (without using 3rd party apps) to keep tabs on open apps and make sure my poor Nexus doesn't get overwhelmed by processes.
Thanks.
oops typo in the thread title.. should be "an app"
That third button is called a Recents button. And currently when you swipe away an app all it does is remove that app from your recents list but it does not close the app
Ah, great, just the info I was after.
no problem im glad to help
To answer your original question... Settings -> Apps -> Running -> tap an app -> Stop
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it does not close the app
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yes it does. could just try it...
Is anyone else having the issue of TB schedules not being executed when the phone is sleeping? I have set all the Battery Optimizations set to manual for both TB and the TB root key app. Sometimes the scheduled task is started when I wake up the phone and sometimes (at night) it's being ignored entirely. I am on rooted Oreo stock but I saw the same on Nougat.
Fixed
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Is anyone else having the issue of TB schedules not being executed when the phone is sleeping? I have set all the Battery Optimizations set to manual for both TB and the TB root key app. Sometimes the scheduled task is started when I wake up the phone and sometimes (at night) it's being ignored entirely. I am on rooted Oreo stock but I saw the same on Nougat.
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OK, fixed it - I had to activate it under Ignore Battery Optimizations
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OK, fixed it - I had to activate it under Ignore Battery Optimizations
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Having the same problem. Where is the option for "Ignore Battery Optimizations", is it a Titanium option or a system option? Thanks
palosanto0 said:
Having the same problem. Where is the option for "Ignore Battery Optimizations", is it a Titanium option or a system option? Thanks
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It's a system setting, somewhere under the Battery settings. I am not on EMUI anymore, so I can't tell you exactly. However, it didn't fix my problem permanently. I have moved on to LineageOS meanwhile, where these problems don't exist anymore.
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It's a system setting, somewhere under the Battery settings. I am not on EMUI anymore, so I can't tell you exactly. However, it didn't fix my problem permanently. I have moved on to LineageOS meanwhile, where these problems don't exist anymore.
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Unfortunately it does not work in my Xiaomi redmi Note 4X.
I found the option to activate "Ignore Battery Optimizations", however if I don't leave the Titanium backup PRO running, the scheduled backups are not performed.
Last week I have been searching internet for a solution, however still I have not found a satisfactory one.
Kind regards and thanks for your advice,
Javi
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Titanium Backup schedules not executed (or interrupted after being started) and/or its related notifications not being shown appears to be an issue that is caused by crazy additional 'features' as implemented at some devices to improve battery life. This especially happens at OnePlus devices running Oreo (Android 8), but may possibly also appear at devices of other brands (Xiaomi?). Therefore it actually isn't a shortcoming of Titanium Backup itself, but the result of some stupid app handling and killing behaviors that may be active at your device.
Also other apps that should permanently be kept running in background may be impacted by this behavior (being killed for the same reason) like Tasker, Sync-to-cloud apps, etc.
Especially at OnePlus devices running Oreo, following implemented crazy 'optimization' behaviors are playing a role here:
After a user has set Battery optimisation OFF for a specific app, it may automatically be set ON again after a reboot or after the app was updated
Background services may be killed EVEN when for the related app the Battery optimisation was set OFF
The 'Autostart' attribute may be ignored, so apps may be NOT automatically started in background after rebooting your device
SOLUTION
1. Make sure the 'Advanced optimisation' options are disabled
Go to Settings > Battery > Battery optimisation
Click the 3 dots in the upper-right corner and select 'Advanced optimisation'
Verify that the options 'Advanced optimisation' and 'Sleep standby optimisation' are both disabled
2. Set Battery optimisation OFF for any app that should continue to run in background
Go to Settings > Battery > Battery optimisation
Select the app that should never be killed, so in this example: 'Titanium Backup'
Select 'Don't optimize' and click DONE
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Above is not needed for the 2nd entry 'Titanium Backup PRO', which is just related to your PRO key payment and not the running Titanium Backup process itself.
However, disabling Battery optimization for an app is NOT enough for preventing that it could be killed when running in background at OnePlus devices!
This not only because the 'Don't optimize' setting may automatically be reverted to 'Optimize' after a reboot or after an update of the app, but EVEN when Battery optimisation is actually disabled it's nevertheless still candidate for being killed at OnePlus devices running Oreo! Therefore also next action is required in addition.
3. Lock the app in your 'Recent Apps' list
Open and then close Titanium Backup (or just touch the Home button at your device after opening the app)
Touch the 'Recent Apps' button at your device
This shows your recent apps, where Titanium Backup will now be included (as last / most recent entry)
Toggle the 'Lock' icon in the upper right corner of that Titanium Backup entry, to switch it to a closed lock icon symbol
(see attached screenshot)
This last action not only just prevents that the app could be removed from your 'Recent Apps' list, but it ALSO prevents the issues as described above, so:
The app will not be killed anymore when running in background
The 'Battery optimisation' setting for that app will not be reverted anymore to 'Optimize' after a reboot or after an update of the app
When done, Titanium Backup schedules should now run as defined. Also, its completion messages shouldn't disappear from your notification entries anymore, but kept until you remove them.
OTHER APPS
Because it's not just a specific Titanium Backup issue but the result of the stupid behavior as implemented at OnePlus devices running Oreo, it's highly recommended to repeat the steps above for any app that should never be killed when running in background (eg. Tasker, Sync-to-cloud apps, Alarm/Alert apps, etc.). Also apps that are making use of scheduled actions, or should awake at incoming messages, chats, mails, alarms, or Security/Anti-virus apps etc. could be candidate of not being able to react properly because they were killed when running in background and/or not started at boot. When such apps doesn't always correctly react/awake at your device, just perform same actions as described above to prevent them to be killed. When an app still doesn't work because it wasn't auto-started at boot, you could use Tasker to create a Tasker-profile that executes a Tasker-task to launch such apps at boot. Start-at-boot via Tasker appears to be not required for Titanium Backup, but for some other apps this was my only option to ensure that they were auto-started after a reboot of my device.
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Some apps have options included in their internal settings like 'Keep active in background', 'Run in Foreground' or 'Turn off battery optimisation'. Even when these types of internal app settings are selected, they could still be killed at some device brands (eg. OnePlus) when the actions as described above aren't implemented in addition for such apps.
OnePlus: Never settle, but also never be so stubborn...
Thanks
Much appreciated for the fix.
Never thought about locking the app, great idea ?
Just stumbled over this post through a link. Many thanks for the info; in my case it's not only TB that's effected but also several other apps like OruxMaps and Automagic.
For completeness I post some screenshots from OnePlus 6 / OOS 9.0.4 (Pie) showing the changed recent apps screens and dialogs (in German, but I guess you'll get the picture)
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Titanium Backup schedules not executed....
OnePlus: Never settle, but also never be so stubborn...
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i was wondering why titanium is not executed in months.. and killed shortly even when i run it manually.
settings were great:
- no battery optimization
- no data optimization
- tons of free memory on RAM boasting 1+ (funny isn't it)
- recent app management=normal clear
- standby check=exempted
- keep activities
- deep optimization turned off
- sleep standby optimization turned off
and still it didn't help until i LOCKed the app. this is why 1+ and xiaomis achieve better battery scores than samsung
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...this is why 1+ and xiaomis achieve better battery scores than samsung
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...which is what I really love about my 1+: 3 - 4 days between charging aren't rare here.
For the very few apps that are having probs (like track recording) with heavy battery optimization I wrote myself a script (am using automagic, but this should be also possible with Tasker etc) to disable deep opt. then start my critical app. Works great for me, but as always: ymmv
I can't find the setting to lock an app in the recent list in Android 10. Anyone know how to do it?
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I can't find the setting to lock an app in the recent list in Android 10. Anyone know how to do it?
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Each tile you see in the recents screen should show the app title and the usual three dots to open a pop-up menu. There you can lock the app, show app details etc
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Each tile you see in the recents screen should show the app title and the usual three dots to open a pop-up menu. There you can lock the app, show app details etc
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it.
Still not seeing it.
Where do I click?
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it.
Still not seeing it.
Where do I click?
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Your screenshot shows the app settings. You need to bring up the "recents" screen instead. If you're using the standard navigation bar that is the square button at the right end of the nav bar (screenshot #1, blue mark).
Then you flip through your recently opened apps until you find the one you're looking for. From then on it's as I described before: tap the 3 dots (screenshot #1, red mark). in the pop up menu select the "lock" entry (screenshot #2, green mark)
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Your screenshot shows the app settings. You need to bring up the "recents" screen instead. If you're using the standard navigation bar that is the square button at the right end of the nav bar (screenshot #1, blue mark).
Then you flip through your recently opened apps until you find the one you're looking for. From then on it's as I described before: tap the 3 dots (screenshot #1, red mark). in the pop up menu select the "lock" entry (screenshot #2, green mark)
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Thanks - got it. When I read about "recents" in this thread earlier, I assumed it was when you go to Settings > Apps and you're first shown a list of recent apps. I've now got what everyone is talking about, thanks to your patient explaining. I'm sure this will help others too. On my phone, there's no nav bar it's all done with gestures, so you swipe up from the bottom of the screen - then lock Titanium in place. Bingo, and thank you.