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What do you guys keep the brightness at for your screen? Also hows the battery life? Thanks, personally I keep mine at the lowest and am really tempted to raise it!
I keep mine at the lowest also, only time I change it is if im outside and its sunny out. Otherwise the lowest is bright enough for me.
around 60% i love how the screen looks when its bright
McFroger3 said:
I keep mine at the lowest also, only time I change it is if im outside and its sunny out. Otherwise the lowest is bright enough for me.
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Ironic...I change mine when I'm outside too, AMOLED is horrible in the sun light but its great otherwise..
TFJ4 said:
Ironic...I change mine when I'm outside too, AMOLED is horrible in the sun light but its great otherwise..
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Yea I have to agree there. I have to do the same crap with my ZuneHD when im outside. but this screen is to amazing to be bothered by it.
Around 50%+ mostly, unless I'm using it outside.
Keep mine on whatever the middle setting on the power control widget is (~40% I believe) most of the time unless I am outside or if I wake up and look at my phone in the dark, then I cut the brightness all the way or go blind from the whites on the screen
So I take it that everyone else has the same problem with auto-brightness: that it fluctuates up and down too quickly?
auto works great for me... *shrug*
I use auto and it has been working fine for me.
I keep mine on auto, but it does fluctuate from time to time. For example, when I hold the phone sideways with the light sensor shaded, it will dim of course, which can be really annoying because it should only dim when I'm in a dimly lit environment.
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So I take it that everyone else has the same problem with auto-brightness: that it fluctuates up and down too quickly?
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Yea I actually have this problem too. Its pretty annoying, and well I guess I don't want to use the manual brightness, because there is a sensor on the phone for a reason. I want to use ALL the features.
I use an app called "Brightness Level" by CurveFish. I like it better than the power widget since it has more levels (default switches between 0, 36 & 100). I keep mine at 25% but it still looks better than most phones at 15%. Reducing brightness from 36 to 25 means the screen is eating 70% of my battery by days end instead of 78%. 15 reduces it further to around 65%.
The problem with auto is that A) It jumps around too much. 2) it turns the screen down whenever I use the horizontal keyboard. And d) the sensor really sucks. I turn the phone 10 degrees and it ups the setting by 3 notches.
It's hard to tell whether the screen brightness versus battery life is worth it ya know? I wanna show off the screen but have enough juice at the end of the day.. so.. what do you all suggest besides auto?
I keep mine at full brightness. Haven't seen an issue with battery life, but then again, I don't play games on it or anything.
EarthsiegeTA said:
I keep mine at full brightness. Haven't seen an issue with battery life, but then again, I don't play games on it or anything.
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I need sunglasses to use the phone with the screen brightness to full! You better be careful or you'll burn your retinas.
Ya man no joke this is one bright ass screen. Ill try tomorrow a day at half then full the next and see if there's a difference in battery life. Thanks
Does it do any damage to have the brightness maxed out? I think it makes the screen look better!
Specially after using the retina display lol
Guitarfreak26 said:
Does it do any damage to have the brightness maxed out? I think it makes the screen look better!
Specially after using the retina display lol
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I think its build for that, if it breaks down you'll just have warrenty becouse there is no physical damage to the phone
Only thing is that ur battery will be empty verry fast.
Guitarfreak26 said:
Does it do any damage to have the brightness maxed out? I think it makes the screen look better!
Specially after using the retina display lol
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no damage, but very fast losing of battery
I'm gonna have to buy a spare battery lol. The screen is actually rather nice with the brightness on full power
Dear Developers,
I have been messing with my phone lately and got to know something.
1. Pull out the Battery and reinsert it.
2. Go to a Pitch black room and boot the phone.
3. At the Galaxy S Screen, you can notice that the Black portion of the screen is totally black, meaning that the pixels are totally OFF.
4. Once the Phone boots up, Power Off the phone, just before the phone turns off, you will be able to see a bare illumination as if there is some backlight, which means that the Black pixels are not totally off. You can even notice the same with a black image on your screen.
I am not a Technical Person, but I guess the screen driver is powering down the pixels instead of totally turning them off, like it happens during the boot. Maybe we can tweak the driver to totally power down pixels for black content. This would help the screen show deeper black levels and also will help save the battery, keeping in mind that the screen is the biggest battery hog.
Maybe any Developer can share a word on this.
Thanks!
they always give some light . But when there is something at the screen (like the logo), you can't see it because of the high contrast.
I have made several checks and I am pretty sure that the logo screen has totally black background, but after booting, the screen gives out some light.
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Human eye can't see deeper levels of black what it is now and samsung would have tweaked it if it wouldn't harm phone, or if it would be even possible.
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I am giving main emphasis on the battery life rather than colors. The boot screen shows perfect black so the screen can definitely support it..
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dhiru1602 said:
I am giving main emphasis on the battery life rather than colors. The boot screen shows perfect black so the screen can definitely support it..
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SAMOLED screens can display true black. If you want to get technical the contrast ratio of a SAMOLED screen is infinite. The battery life gains wouldn't be noticeable though.
My guess is that the 'almost-black' brightness is to maintain response time.
A non-linear device (like a diode or a transistor) that is completely off will have a transient to turn on because it's junction/channel capacitance(s) need to be charged up before it will start to conduct. In things like current DACs there will sometimes be a trickle current through 'off' devices whose purpose is to keep devices 'on' so that they will be faster to start conducting again when required.
Just guessing that this may be the reason for the non-zero minimum brightness (although it is pretty damn dark).
Op, i've just tried pulling pattery out - the screen still shines.
However, i would really like to see the completely off black pixels - for reading in dark, for example. We need to ask someone like Supercurio to sort everything out.
the NoLED app was made specially for this phone to conserve battery
when a OLED display is not on, it is not using power, it has no light
google OLED technology to learn more
AllGamer said:
the NoLED app was made specially for this phone to conserve battery
when a OLED display is not on, it is not using power, it has no light
google OLED technology to learn more
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You are wrong. This app was not made to conserve battery, and it does not turn off light completely. Read the op-post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730692 Author had marked out statement about energy consumption, because black on Super Amoled doesn't behave as it should on OLED.
you mean this? http://www.devasque.com/noled/FAQ.php
Q: What about battery drainage ? How much battery percentage does this app consume per hour ?
A: To answer this question, I quote our friend evilhunter101 from xda-forums.com
"That's a question that simply can't be answered for you and everyone else who wonders. Why? Because all the available settings change the battery consumption, as well as what other apps you have installed and what kernel or OS you are using. Simply put, try the app. If you like it, keep it. If not, uninstall it. You have literally got nothing to lose.
P.s. I see no difference with or without NoLED, while others swear its a battery hog. I imagine we have it set up very differently."
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I have made several checks and I am pretty sure that the logo screen has totally black background, but after booting, the screen gives out some light.
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keep your finger over the logo and any other light sources and you will see the black still gives some light.
Sounds interesting
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I believe this is current leakage or deliberate to boost response time. I think its just how it works period kind of like wishing the backlight didn't bleed through blacks on lcd screens... can't be changed with a driver mod sorry
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Hey guys, can someone else with the samsung note 4 exynos model try their phone in direct sunlight on auto brightness and tell me if the screen kicks into a super bright mode with high contrast and strange colours? You have to be in direct sunlight with auto brightness turned up. I'm getting paranoid about this and not sure whether to swap mine. I know samsung have just added assertive displays to the exynos models and possibly now snapdragon but not sure if this is whats going on.. it almost makes some colours look fluro.
Yes it does, it is normal.
Lodix said:
Yes it does, it is normal.
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Hope they get rid of this feature soon then.. it triggers so easily.
And it looks terrible, thought my screen had broke first time it did it.
thelestat said:
And it looks terrible, thought my screen had broke first time it did it.
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Glad im not the only one then.. do your colours kind of go fluro?
Hmm just took my samsung tab s outside in bright light and it did the same must just be much more pronounced on the qhd display
At first I didn't like it, comes it makes the phone look all weird, but after a while I've really come to like it, especially when driving, I've reliazed, never once was it hard to view the display. Which IMO is awesome! I've never had a smartphone I could always accurately see the screen, in every type of light
I do outdoor hiking and I use the phone for navigation and taking photos. You do have to set the auto brightness to On for it to boost the screen brightness but it triggers after u turn on the phone screen instead if consistently. Battery is not an issue because I carry spare batteries
Anyway to keep the screen on at its Max brightness consistently? II don't care about color distortions either as long as I can see things!
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Hope they get rid of this feature soon then.. it triggers so easily.
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I hope they don't, I want to be able to see my screen under sunlight.
Maybe tweak the levels a bit so that it doesn't activate until absolutely necessary, but removing it completely? Why? So people can start threads about how they can't see their screen outdoors?
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this is a great feature, why should they remove it? if people fine it annoying , just untick the auto brigtness job done
im looking for method how make super brightness constantly... but no luck... anybode know how? using stock rooted mm
Doesn't seem like the clock or battery icon move around like Always On mode. Will this eventually cause burn in?
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No. Amoled displays don't suffer from that. Even high quality LCD displays like found on the iPhone will have a hard time causing burn in.
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The information provided above is false. Amoled screens can suffer from burn in. However, with the Always On Display, the clock moves around every 3 minutes or so to avoid burn in.
CuBz90 said:
The information provided above is false. Amoled screens can suffer from burn in. However, with the Always On Display, the clock moves around every 3 minutes or so to avoid burn in.
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He's asking about the night mode, which puts the clock on the edge of the screen. It doesn't move around in that mode.
I don't know the answer, but I don't use it for that fear.
berfles said:
He's asking about the night mode, which puts the clock on the edge of the screen. It doesn't move around in that mode.
I don't know the answer, but I don't use it for that fear.
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Ah!
I imagine the night clock woukd cause burn in ad it does stay in one place.
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Well the numbers do change every hour and minute so I think it would be hard to get any noticeable burn in.
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Well the numbers do change every hour and minute so I think it would be hard to get any noticeable burn in.
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Unfortunately the battery icon and next alarm displayed doesn't change.
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I was wondering this and also worried about burn in , so I turned off night clock because it doesn't move, and I'm asleep so I don't need it on.
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I doubt it, the brightness would be low enough to minimize the risk of burn-in.
I don't think it would. I have mine set to only stay on from 1AM until 5AM (the hours I'm most likely to wake up in the middle of the night and want to see the time.)
I don't think 4 hours is enough to cause burn in being how the pixels are lit up very dim when using the night clock.
ydoucare said:
I doubt it, the brightness would be low enough to minimize the risk of burn-in.
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The pixels are stilll active though, shortening their "life". Will you notice any burn in or difference in screen quality in that area within a month or six? Probably not, but it'll burn in (or, leave a mark if you want) no matter what after 24+ months. AMOLED is a tricky technology, so I personally stay away from "AMOLED black" themes and whatnot. Why? The black areas are turned off, while the colored/lightened pixels are lit up. The areas that are "off" will have a longer "pixel life" than the ones most used, so it'll make a sort of "ghosting" effect after a while (2 years+). Using a theme or whatever that's "even", i.e not on and off at different places will give me an even "burn out".
I have no idea how good the EDGE's panel is though, so this is pretty much pure speculation, with some facts mixed in!
At first I was also worried that the pixels don't change position, but having it on for a week, I think it's too dark to cause a burn-in.
The Always-On clock looks like it'll burn in more because it's bright even though it moves around every couple minutes.
I use a black background. I don't think it'll cause uneven wear. Every time I use a web browser, the background is mostly white. I think that's enough to evenly burn in the screen. I usually keep the screen little dimmer than normal to avoid burn in., but I'm not afraid of ramping up the brightness when I'm outside under the sun or reviewing photos.
One thing I don't like about the night clock is that it shows the alarm that's couple days out. I think Samsung really need to fix this as this is obviously a bug, or they didn't test it enough.
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At first I was also worried that the pixels don't change position, but having it on for a week, I think it's too dark to cause a burn-in.
The Always-On clock looks like it'll burn in more because it's bright even though it moves around every couple minutes.
I use a black background. I don't think it'll cause uneven wear. Every time I use a web browser, the background is mostly white. I think that's enough to evenly burn in the screen. I usually keep the screen little dimmer than normal to avoid burn in., but I'm not afraid of ramping up the brightness when I'm outside under the sun or reviewing photos.
One thing I don't like about the night clock is that it shows the alarm that's couple days out. I think Samsung really need to fix this as this is obviously a bug, or they didn't test it enough.
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Everything is pure speculation regarding the AMOLED panel around here, so we won't really know anything concrete until something happens, or someone gets a nasty burn-in. I doubt anyone will get a nasty burn-in though, but I guess someone will get some burn-in down the road, but that's pretty much expected.
I have a Galaxy Note (first gen.) that I used for about 18 months before getting a new device, and I've borrowed it to my mom. I checked it out again this week after not checking it out for about two years, and the display looks like ****, but it doesn't look more **** as it did the day I gave it to her, so it's "bad" if I'm trying to edit some photos, but it's not catastrophically bad at all. The only place it's burnt in is the statusbar, which is black on pre-lollipop versions if I remember correctly.
Hi clever people
So I'm a bit confused. I found this thread because I was afraid of a burn-in caused by the night clock too.
And I won't use it. But how about the always on display, then - by using that, is there a risk of shortening the life of the pixels? In that case, I'd just turn it off. But if not, well, then it's a neat feature
Well, I have set night clock every night, It doesn't burn the AMOLED screen. It's completely safe. Try it on your own, no risk They prevent burn in, because of brightness help keep prevent burn-in.
kylelopez20 said:
Well, I have set night clock every night, It doesn't burn the AMOLED screen. It's completely safe. Try it on your own, no risk They prevent burn in, because of brightness help keep prevent burn-in.
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Thanks. I was more curious, though, as to how the Always on Display feature might affect pixels and the screen lifetime too, and thus, if it'd be better to not use this feature
brawlysnake66 said:
No. Amoled displays don't suffer from that. Even high quality LCD displays like found on the iPhone will have a hard time causing burn in.
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False. AMOLEDS suffer burn in, and LCDs will rarely ever experience it.
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J.Biden said:
The pixels are stilll active though, shortening their "life". Will you notice any burn in or difference in screen quality in that area within a month or six? Probably not, but it'll burn in (or, leave a mark if you want) no matter what after 24+ months. AMOLED is a tricky technology, so I personally stay away from "AMOLED black" themes and whatnot. Why? The black areas are turned off, while the colored/lightened pixels are lit up. The areas that are "off" will have a longer "pixel life" than the ones most used, so it'll make a sort of "ghosting" effect after a while (2 years+). Using a theme or whatever that's "even", i.e not on and off at different places will give me an even "burn out".
I have no idea how good the EDGE's panel is though, so this is pretty much pure speculation, with some facts mixed in!
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No offense that is the most stupid reason I've heard not to use dark/black themes. White themes ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO CAUSE BURN IN, PERIOD. You reduce burn in by reducing energy consumption and pixel usage.