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Hey! Guys I am having problems with the USB Charging, it seems to drain the 100% charged battery quicker (while using the phone, unplugged NOT charging) like one day and I have to charge the phone again, But when i charge my phone (100% charge) using the wall charger my phone lasts two and a half days. My wife also said she experiences the same thing with USB charged HTC Trinity Phone. I have tried on different computers and laptops as well but still the same and i know that USB charging will take longer to charge (500mah) so i leave the phone over night like 9 hours but the phone drains like juice. What kind of a Phenomenon is this.. Guys i need your humble thoughts and solutions on this because this is becoming a big problem for me since i use USB charging mostly... Plus I am not a very hardcore app, wifi or games user on the phone either... Darn...
same problem
I don't know why but i meting with the same problem. No idea why this happening it should be same from electric perspective.
When the phone cahrges via computer USB, the phone charges at a rate of around 90mA due to the phone running. Try with the phone off
Tried that as well, but it seems to be the quite the same but little difference since it last a little longer but still drained out in one freakin day. I am pulling my hair off because of this problem.. darn why is this just so... i mean like in the second post the process should be electronically identical right. only difference is it takes more time to charge from USB.... Grrrrr!
my phone hardly last one day..How do you make it last for 2 1/2 days?
xiyan2127 said:
Tried that as well, but it seems to be the quite the same but little difference since it last a little longer but still drained out in one freakin day. I am pulling my hair off because of this problem.. darn why is this just so... i mean like in the second post the process should be electronically identical right. only difference is it takes more time to charge from USB.... Grrrrr!
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Battery indicators do lie.
it all depends upon if your board can deliver enough current to run the phone and charge it. on my rig i see no difference between wall charger and laptop or desktop charging
the laptop is a studio 15 with an i5 and h55 chipset and the desktop is a core 2d machine with a p45 series chipset.
you can tell the phone to disable usb charging if the phone is on while connected to usb to see if that helps (it will still charge via USB if the phone is off)
anhyeuemmaimai said:
it all depends upon if your board can deliver enough current to run the phone and charge it. on my rig i see no difference between wall charger and laptop or desktop charging
the laptop is a studio 15 with an i5 and h55 chipset and the desktop is a core 2d machine with a p45 series chipset.
you can tell the phone to disable usb charging if the phone is on while connected to usb to see if that helps (it will still charge via USB if the phone is off)
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any usb not from china will give about 500mah, whether it be my i7 laptop or z550 vaio, so specific components shouldn't matter.
usb charges a little slower, but no reason it should not last as long once its got all the amps it can take. weird situation man...my huge list of htc phones never had an issue, and i do use a work computer to charge via usb sometimes
Thanks for your thoughts guys!!!
Weird... Yeah thats the thing i am also using a Core i7 930 CPU and my motherboard is ASUS ROG Rampage III Gene board, so i don't think my system is the problem here...
The wall charger delives 2 amperes to our HTC phones while usb ports delivery only 500mA (0,5 amperes). It's not only a matter of charging slower but you can't deliver the full charge the battery needs to revert the chemical process of discharging when tou use usb port. With 2amperes the charging process reachs it's maximum.
bravo261 said:
any usb not from china will give about 500mah, whether it be my i7 laptop or z550 vaio, so specific components shouldn't matter.
usb charges a little slower, but no reason it should not last as long once its got all the amps it can take. weird situation man...my huge list of htc phones never had an issue, and i do use a work computer to charge via usb sometimes
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some cheap mainboards cannot supply even 500ma. a good qaulity board can supply more.
want to test it? put your HD2 in the first USB port and then put a high power device like a wireless dongle or external USB HDD in the second and see what happens. if your board cannot power both, you'll drop your wireless/hdd connection when you plug your phone in.
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mbrown3460 said:
my phone hardly last one day..How do you make it last for 2 1/2 days?
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Sir I have said that I am not a very heavy phone using guy, I am an average phone user. Plus I dont use the 3g or data connection here in my country since the connections are snail slow and prices are over the head and there is no unlimited data package here yet. I use the Wifi sometimes to update my twitter, Rss hub, facebook, weather tabs and very little market place... So my phone lasts for two and a half days when i use the wall charger.
Oh yeah and Guys, i tried recalibrating the battery by using it till the phone died completely and recharging it with USB (phone turned off) for like a day but still it drains faster than the wall charger rate.... I dont understand really...
Bicalho said:
The wall charger delives 2 amperes to our HTC phones while usb ports delivery only 500mA (0,5 amperes). It's not only a matter of charging slower but you can't deliver the full charge the battery needs to revert the chemical process of discharging when tou use usb port. With 2amperes the charging process reachs it's maximum.
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This is why. The awnser was given, but people ignored it. To fully charge a battery it needs more amperes. Use the wall charger. The battery indicator lies, and is unable to acuratly measure a fully charged battery. It'll display 100% when it's roughly 70%.
Our batteries use Lithium ions as means of electricity. They use a Lithium compound, and move the ions from the negative to the positive pole. When there are no more ions to move, our batteries are discharged. When we connect to an external power source, the higher voltage will draw the ions back to the "negative pole".
USB supplies 500 mA (that's 0.5A) @ 5V (per specification, some motherboards won't be able to go that high, depending number of USB devices connected, etc)
European electrical sockets supply up to 2.5A @ 230V and although your HTC charger should only output 1A @ 5V, the topping off will occur much quicker.
Basically the more you have to charge, the more time it takes, and the bigger the effort on the current to pull the remaining ions back to the negative pole.
I am finding that in Android, my phone will not charge with either wall or usb charging. The phone shows that it is charging but does not actually charge. This is really unacceptable. It works in Windows Mobile but is not a listed problem of the Android builds. Are all of you using WM6.5 or Android? Or both?
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I am finding that in Android, my phone will not charge with either wall or usb charging. The phone shows that it is charging but does not actually charge. This is really unacceptable. It works in Windows Mobile but is not a listed problem of the Android builds. Are all of you using WM6.5 or Android? Or both?
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I can Charge my HD2 well on both OS's but still when compared to android and WinMo when i use the USB Android does discharge heavily than WinMO and Android does the same when compared to WinMO on wall charger use as well... So nothing much more to say at that...
Charging mobiles using USB takes alot longer than using power outlet and this is valid for all kind of mobiles, ALSO when you charge by USB your mobiles battery drains much faster than charging from power outlet. (Electrical Engineers say so).
NOW why you don't use power outlet to charge your HD2 rather than using USB?
There are safety measures in charging from USB like, static issues from wall charger in some countries and then there is the ease of use from charging from PC while you are at work or away on a business trip..
mbrown3460 said:
my phone hardly last one day..How do you make it last for 2 1/2 days?
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Mine lives for 5 days on just 1 charge, and with normal use (every 2/3 hours updating weather and twitter, sometimes call, sometimes texting, sometimes using internet)
How are those who've got their N10 finding the charging speed? Mine arrived yesterday and has been charging very slowly, as the reviews had said.
In six hours last night on charge whilst left on standby, it charged about 20%. Is everybody else finding a similar situation?
I'm looking forwards to the pogo-pin chargers/docks being released, which will hopefully charge a bit faster! If anybody knows how to hack something together to make use of the faster charging speed on the pogo connection then please do share! :good:
Of course, you have to look at the amperage and watt of your power supply. Even among the AC powered chargers, they vary greatly, and here you are talking about charging this behemoth with a measly powered USB.
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If it takes 6 hours to charge 20% on a 2amp charger than that is seriously messed up.
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If it takes 6 hours to charge 20% on a 2amp charger than that is seriously messed up.
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Not messed up, just physics. There's an awful lot of resistance in a 9000MaH battery, and a standard microUSB (or even full-sized USB) connector can't handle the amperage that a faster charge would require. Which is why most big tablets had proprietary connectors up to this point.
But guess what? Google and Samsung knew this, it's why the N10 has one too, we just don't have the cable for it yet.
Pogo charger is coming, supposed to be at least twice as fast. Don't know why it was delayed, but most likely either a certification issue, or worry about Apple suing for it being too much like a Mag Safe connector.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-10-tablet-forum/225484-pogo-charger.html
Some guy posted the Pogo charger here. I wonder where he got it.
Buy a powered USB unit and plug into that, mine puts out around 5 amps
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Buy a powered USB unit and plug into that, mine puts out around 5 amps
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Are the slow speeds people are getting from the wall charger our from a pc connection?
Are you saying a powered USB hub is charging it quicker than the mains charger supplied?
Thank you
Swype'd at pace from my Galaxy S2
I don't even charge phones via normal USB on PC anymore, let alone a tab. I've found the charging time on the N10 to be ok, provided the screen is off and also if I'm downloading something it seems to slow the charging down. Other than that it's not lightning fast, sure, but I'm ok with it. And so much the better when they release the pogo charger.
charged mine over night yesterday from 10% to full wall mains, but when the screen is one it doesn't seem to charge just maintains current charge which is a bit annoying
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How are those who've got their N10 finding the charging speed? Mine arrived yesterday and has been charging very slowly, as the reviews had said.
In six hours last night on charge whilst left on standby, it charged about 20%. Is everybody else finding a similar situation?
I'm looking forwards to the pogo-pin chargers/docks being released, which will hopefully charge a bit faster! If anybody knows how to hack something together to make use of the faster charging speed on the pogo connection then please do share! :good:
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Try turning anything that uses power off (i.e)...turn the screen brightness the lowest it will go, turn the tablet on airplane mode. Turn the sounds off.
I find that helps my phone charge faster, maybe this will help with the tablet.
Are you talking about charging via USB on a PC, or via the PSU?
Through the PC will be very slow at a maximum of 500mA, but the PSU should be able to power it? My N7 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 had 2A chargers - what does the N10 come with?
I am regretring more and more buying this. I haven't received mine yet but the amount of pixels is kind of ridiculous. I would have been happy with 1920x1200 with that beasyly hardware. Saw a review that said their battery only lasted 4 hours because of the insane power the screen sucks away.
Also the fact that this pogo charger will probably cost $50+ and it is something that should have been standard either way.
Oh Asus infinity..why must your I/O be so god awful. You were almost the perfect tablet
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Yeah charging is slow, though not as bad as 20% in 6 hours! I think mine was charging faster than that even when I was using it. I think trade off is worth it though with the microUSB connector.
The iPad 3/4 is no better... Takes forever to charge
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I am regretring more and more buying this. I haven't received mine yet but the amount of pixels is kind of ridiculous. I would have been happy with 1920x1200 with that beasyly hardware. Saw a review that said their battery only lasted 4 hours because of the insane power the screen sucks away.
Also the fact that this pogo charger will probably cost $50+ and it is something that should have been standard either way.
Oh Asus infinity..why must your I/O be so god awful. You were almost the perfect tablet
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It's just a cable, the charger is already capable of 2a.
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It's just a cable, the charger is already capable of 2a.
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Well if the cable is only $5-$10 then that's great, however I foresee them milking that cable for all its worth . I'll see when I get mine today how I feel
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Lumsdoni said:
Are the slow speeds people are getting from the wall charger our from a pc connection?
Are you saying a powered USB hub is charging it quicker than the mains charger supplied?
Thank you
Swype'd at pace from my Galaxy S2
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No but it will charge at the same speed as a Mains charger and thats better than plugging into your laptop or PC
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No but it will charge at the same speed as a Mains charger and thats better than plugging into your laptop or PC
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I got about 40 % in 2 hours off mains
Swype'd at pace from my Galaxy S2
It's nice to know that we have the Pogo pins option for faster charging. It makes me feel better now going through with my decision to get N10. I am a heavy media/game consumption guy so this device is perfect for my needs.
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I must say I would hate to spend an extra $55 (assumed price) for a pogo charger for a tablet I've already spent $550 (tax+ship)
Hi guys,
currently having a problem with my xbox 360 charging my Nexus 4...
basically i put my nexus on charge (usb cable from xbox 360) over night and it clearly said its charging, so i woke up the next morning and the battery % was as i left it, but it still clearly says charging? this has happen to me twice this week... has anyone else had a problem like this?
forgot to mention, i have always charged my mobile devices using the xbox 360 and never had any problems before...
Maybe try other cables?
I have had similar issues with phones in the past where certain cables worked and some didn't.
accidently gave u a thx I had this problem with all my phones trying to charge them with my PS3 or PC. With my PS it charged 1-2% and with my PC a bit slower than normally. I think its the bad electricity supply over usb
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Maybe try other cables?
I have had similar issues with phones in the past where certain cables worked and some didn't.
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i'm currently charging right now on work laptop with same cable and its charging fine?
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accidently gave u a thx I had this problem with all my phones trying to charge them with my PS3 or PC. With my PS it charged 1-2% and with my PC a bit slower than normally. I think its the bad electricity supply over usb
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true, it could be... but i charge my samsung galaxy s2 using same method and that charges up fine without problems...
I have no problems with my 360'
But why would you keep your Xbox running at night to charge your iPhone??
Better use a wall charger. It charges faster, and is cheaper..
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Davanzze said:
I have no problems with my 360'
But why would you keep your Xbox running at night to charge your iPhone??
Better use a wall charger. It charges faster, and is cheaper..
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weirdly i dont leave the xbox on... the usb ports are still live when it is switched off and because of that reason, i use it to charge my phone.
PS its a Nexus not an iPhone lol
killa_byte said:
weirdly i dont leave the xbox on... the usb ports are still live when it is switched off and because of that reason, i use it to charge my phone.
PS its a Nexus not an iPhone lol
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kk, haha i know its not an iPhone, but my swype made phone into iphone
killa_byte said:
Hi guys,
currently having a problem with my xbox 360 charging my Nexus 4...
basically i put my nexus on charge (usb cable from xbox 360) over night and it clearly said its charging, so i woke up the next morning and the battery % was as i left it, but it still clearly says charging? this has happen to me twice this week... has anyone else had a problem like this?
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I had similar issues while charging through my laptop, My phone would say charging, meanwhile it would be discharging
I think it has to do with the phone using more power than the port is giving out. Basically some apps you have one your phone is using so much battery that the charger is not charging because the required power to run the phone is greater than the charge is giving. I'm thinking this is becasue the phone has so much RAM that all the background apps are using more and more power. It's like charging a Laptop through your Xbox USB port, the laptop uses WAY too much power for it to be getting charged through a measly USB port.
Nonetheless, I stopped charging my phone through my laptop and just plugged it in the wall. It charges way faster anyway (my charging usually takes 2 hours when it's really low to full battery)
Even if it does charge, it's not likely to charge well; the Nexus 4's charger is 1.2 amps. The Xbox USB ports likely put out less than half that. Unless you have an S model, in which case the rear "Kinect" port is "high-powered," which likely means 1.0 amps.
I'm charging off my AirPort Extreme without issue...albeit it slow. Since I charge at night, it's a non-issue. OP, have you tried swapping USB cable?
Does the Xbox 360 temporarily disable its USB port if you try to pull to much power from them?
The Nexus 4 requires more than what is supplied...
uberSlackr could be right, normal usb ports are 5volts,500mah, so 5 volts standby, you should be able to charge even at a slow rate, windows 7 has an option to turn off usb ports to save power unless you disable it.maybe xbox has a similar power saving function.
samsung s2 max charging rate is at 650mah, my nexus charger is 1.2amps, so 1 amp draws too much.
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I'm charging off my AirPort Extreme without issue...albeit it slow. Since I charge at night, it's a non-issue. OP, have you tried swapping USB cable?
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yes, i've tried changing the cable and its the same... i believe the comments above have explained it much clearly to me and make me understand why its not charging (xbox usb being 500 mah and the phone needs 1.2 amp... so looks like i will have to use my wall charger from now on)
i appreciate the help guys!! :good:
Hey all
I'm having this really strange issue, trying to figure out if the phone is at fault and whether I should RMA it.
When I try to charge it through my Macbook pro, it gets to around 16% and stops charging. When I charge it through my car's USB to 9V converter it manages to charge properly but loses that charge very quickly.
When my phone is connected to a power outlet (via a samsung convertor that came with my Nexus S), it charges well and holds the charge for a while.
Should I RMA?
The voltage doesn't make any difference. (Well it does, but it simply won't charge if the voltage is too low) It's the current you should be worried about. May be your Macbook pro and your car USB simply isn't giving out enough current to charge the phone? Laptop usb ports tend to have very low power rating.
beegbear said:
Hey all
I'm having this really strange issue, trying to figure out if the phone is at fault and whether I should RMA it.
When I try to charge it through my Macbook pro, it gets to around 16% and stops charging. When I charge it through my car's USB to 9V converter it manages to charge properly but loses that charge very quickly.
When my phone is connected to a power outlet (via a samsung convertor that came with my Nexus S), it charges well and holds the charge for a while.
Should I RMA?
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Well, my ENTRY PROCESS of RMA took 15 days. Im pretty lucky .
My nexus 4 got bricked, for a battery issue, I recomend dont charge the N4 in cars... :S
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The voltage doesn't make any difference. (Well it does, but it simply won't charge if the voltage is too low) It's the current you should be worried about. May be your Macbook pro and your car USB simply isn't giving out enough current to charge the phone? Laptop usb ports tend to have very low power rating.
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My computer has no issues charging any other device...
And to the gentleman that recommended not to charge it in a car.. well that'd make my phone far less useful. I need to be able to charge it in my car.
Hey guys, yesterday i noticed something strange: it took 3+ hours to charge my S5 from 8% to 100%. I remember that it used to take around 2 hours at the very maximum from 0% to 100%. Then i remembered that my cable with which I'm charging is not the original one (it got cut long ago) but the charger itself is the original. Is something wrong with my battery? Is the charger bad? Should i search for an OEM usb cable? I don't mind it if it charges for longer as i charge it at night but still, this got me a bit worried that it can degrade my battery overall by keeping it hot for longer than needed. Thanks for any answers.
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Hey guys, yesterday i noticed something strange: it took 3+ hours to charge my S5 from 8% to 100%. I remember that it used to take around 2 hours at the very maximum from 0% to 100%. Then i remembered that my cable with which I'm charging is not the original one (it got cut long ago) but the charger itself is the original. Is something wrong with my battery? Is the charger bad? Should i search for an OEM usb cable? I don't mind it if it charges for longer as i charge it at night but still, this got me a bit worried that it can degrade my battery overall by keeping it hot for longer than needed. Thanks for any answers.
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My phone gets hot when I use a non OEM cord as well. But its never hurt my phone. I've been doing it for probably a year now. As for the longer charge time is it suddenly taking longer with this cord or is it taking longer because you are now using the cord?
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My phone gets hot when I use a non OEM cord as well. But its never hurt my phone. I've been doing it for probably a year now. As for the longer charge time is it suddenly taking longer with this cord or is it taking longer because you are now using the cord?
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Well not sure as i mostly charge it at night. But my phone's battery life is normal while using it (atleast for now), just curious why it takes so long to charge.
Different cords have different capabilities depending how they were made. There's even some that only give power and no data transfer. Samsung makes fast charge technology for their devices. Other cords may or may not support it.
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Different cords have different capabilities depending how they were made. There's even some that only give power and no data transfer. Samsung makes fast charge technology for their devices. Other cords may or may not support it.
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Hm, I always thought that fast charging is inside the charger itself and not the cord. Might get an official Samsung one then. Thanks for the info mate
koragg97 said:
Hm, I always thought that fast charging is inside the charger itself and not the cord. Might get an official Samsung one then. Thanks for the info mate
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No problem. They look like this.
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No problem. They look like this.
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It comes with the USB cord as well. And I'm pretty sure fast charge tech is both the handset and the charger itself. I read the charger is 1.5x faster then a normal one even if its not going to a device with fast charge and 2x faster if it is. I didn't mean to quote myself either. Lol