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[Request] Root for Z3C (D5803) -> Solved

HI @all,
now that we have a FW for the device - is root possible?
All known root methods are not working.
BR
UserX10
Edit:
Solved -> Thanks you DooMLoRD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-...58xx-cwm-based-recovery-6-0-4-7-root-t2890231

Delete.

Jeez.
People haven't even got their hands on the phone yet...
Be patient

Anyone wanna try Framaroot?
http://framaroot.net/index.html

framaroot does not work ...

Ok because I saw it posted on this blog and thought it would work. Strange!

plisk3n said:
Ok because I saw it posted on this blog and thought it would work. Strange!
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Well, it says "tested on device" and is from 9/4, before the device was even unavailable. I'd be careful that apk isn't something more.

CollinsJ said:
Well, it says "tested on device" and is from 9/4, before the device was even unavailable. I'd be careful that apk isn't something more.
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Yeah that's also the reason why I decided not to download it, I'll just wait till someone @ XDA finds a way to root the device. It's not like we'll die because our device isn't rooted for x weeks/months.

Weeks/months?! I would die! It's been a day and the amount of things I can't do is driving me nuts!

If you have an unlocked boot loader see what I say at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55709585. If you don't I think you'll be waiting for a while - someone needs to find an exploit and write the app/code needed to exploit it. This has become increasingly hard as Android has become more secure - before Towelroot AFAIK the Z1/Z2 was not rootable for a long time. You'd probably be waiting a similar length of time for the next big root exploit.

tilal6991 said:
If you have an unlocked boot loader see what I say at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55709585. If you don't I think you'll be waiting for a while - someone needs to find an exploit and write the app/code needed to exploit it. This has become increasingly hard as Android has become more secure - before Towelroot AFAIK the Z1/Z2 was not rootable for a long time. You'd probably be waiting a similar length of time for the next big root exploit.
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Would it not be helpful to contact Sony themselves? They're increasingly developer friendly, these days. Maybe they'd be willing to offer pointers to root app developers?

mudnightoil said:
Would it not be helpful to contact Sony themselves? They're increasingly developer friendly, these days. Maybe they'd be willing to offer pointers to root app developers?
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Well I know people at Sony and long story short: if you want root unlock the boot loader. Its as simple as that. You have to understand that while a root exploit looks nice to tinkerers its also a serious security issue which must be fixed - that is why many root solutions also patch the exploit they use after using it.

Does unlocking the bootloader require wiping the phone? I know this is required on the nexus phones. If it requires wipe then its the very first thing I'm doing once I get the phone out of the box.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

tilal6991 said:
Well I know people at Sony and long story short: if you want root unlock the boot loader. Its as simple as that. You have to understand that while a root exploit looks nice to tinkerers its also a serious security issue which must be fixed - that is why many root solutions also patch the exploit they use after using it.
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I'm aware of this ... but on the one hand being one of the few if only manufacturers to provide official unlocking for the bootloaders (with the obvious intention of spurring development etc), but on the other actively closing non-simple (i.e. ones requiring a dedicated program) root 'exploits' would seem a little at odds. Is it really that black and white? You'd think it might be in their interests to provide an official complex / secure rooting method.

sublimnl said:
Does unlocking the bootloader require wiping the phone? I know this is required on the nexus phones. If it requires wipe then its the very first thing I'm doing once I get the phone out of the box.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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Yes. It will wipe everything AFAIK - double check with the website.
mudnightoil said:
I'm aware of this ... but on the one hand being one of the few if only manufacturers to provide official unlocking for the bootloaders (with the obvious intention of spurring development etc), but on the other actively closing non-simple (i.e. ones requiring a dedicated program) root 'exploits' would seem a little at odds. Is it really that black and white? You'd think it might be in their interests to provide an official complex / secure rooting method.
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Your statements contradict themselves. Rooting without unlocking the bootloader needs a security flaw. How can any method which leaves a security hole be secure?
Bootloader unlocking gets around this by letting you control the boot partition of the device so you can disable the "security barrier" that android provides. This is a choice you are explicitly making which is why it is the only "secure" way to root.

Does towelroot work?

MrOeyta said:
Does towelroot work?
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Unfortunately Towelroot does not work.

I've read some people saying that unlocking the bootloader causes you to lose your DRM keys which apparently would affect software/ camera issues?
Can anyone verify this?

tacocats said:
I've read some people saying that unlocking the bootloader causes you to lose your DRM keys which apparently would affect software/ camera issues?
Can anyone verify this?
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This is very true. On the z1c I neglected to back up the TA partition. And apparently lost native mirror cast and some camera features when I rolled the device back to stock.
Back up your TA partition before unlocking BL.

dillalade said:
This is very true. On the z1c I neglected to back up the TA partition. And apparently lost native mirror cast and some camera features when I rolled the device back to stock.
Back up your TA partition before unlocking BL.
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Any idea how this could be done?

Locked Bootloader lollipop root real soon?

It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.

zoid_99 said:
It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
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One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.

Junior Passos said:
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
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If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"

zoid_99 said:
If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
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Hmmm interesting.
Then the process should be with CF-Auto-Root .
I used one of those before when I first root in Lollipop.
But thought the command "mfastboot boot cf-auto-root.img" only work with unlocked bootloader and not the locked too.
Amazing.

Me excite!

You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting

godutch said:
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
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Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?

GatorsUF said:
Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
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No.

cam30era said:
No.
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OF course

This revelation means that Android 5.0 users*no longer need to run a modified kernel to gain root access via SuperSU (or other root solutions). While not a huge problem on Nexus devices with unlockable bootloaders, the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here, and we can present an exclusive explanation of the changes needed. At least for now (until/unless Google patch this), it is possible to gain root access and then install and use SuperSU on a stock Android 5.0 device, without any kernel ramdisk tweaking. The reason for this is the need for SuperSU to run a service as root, to allow for unconstrained root access on SELinux-protected devices.

Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?

neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader

neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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Thanks Motorola -_-

Buy a nexus 6. That's what I did. Still have the moto x for my wife so I can play with it

Can't afford it right now. If I knew programming, you bet I would be working on it. God I hate Verizon, but been here so long it's my cheapest option.

matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Will the pure edition work on Verizon?

GrandMstrBud said:
Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
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From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.

GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?

GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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GrandMstrBud said:
LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
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No, CDMA will not work, nor 3G. So you will be confined only to LTE service and Google Voice (or similar).

matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Looks like your idea will not work and maybe that's the reason for this thread? Pure Edition won't work on VZW

Working Hotspot Without Provisioning Check Guide

For those like myself that want to be able to use hotspot and do not have a custom ROM with it already enabled I found a working solution:
Step 1
Download this hacked apk here:
http://downloadmirror.co/Usp/CarrierEntitlement.apk
Step 2
Your going to want to paste this inside /system_root/system/priv-app/CarrierEntitlement and replace the one already there.
Step 3
Change the permissions on the hacked apk to match the ones on the original (so it functions the same way)
I have attached a screenshot from Root Explorer as to what the correct permissions settings looks like.
Step 4
Reboot and profit.
Cheers,
Jake

Have to be rooted I assume though?
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

oneandroidnut said:
Have to be rooted I assume though?
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Yes because it requires overwriting a system apk. But this is easily achieved with flashing the SuperSU zip in TWRP

Can you explain how this is different than editing the build prop? Also what carrier are you using this mod with?
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

JakeDHS07 said:
Yes because it requires overwriting a system apk. But this is easily achieved with flashing the SuperSU zip in TWRP
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sounds good i have no unlocked yet though lol

Ah yea. Most mods and hacks will require it. Luckily with our phones it's super easy and free and Officially supported by Google! All tutorials can be found directly through them online!

JakeDHS07 said:
Ah yea. Most mods and hacks will require it. Luckily with our phones it's super easy and free and Officially supported by Google! All tutorials can be found directly through them online!
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Yup yup my 6p was cake to unlock I'm just enjoying pixel stock so far
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

This might be a stupid question but can I unroot after making the change?

I suppose. It will stay until you change roms or update. Long as you don't reflash anything it will persist.

If I choose to root device only, Pixel XL, and apply this method, will I still be able to receive the software/security updates from Google? I believe if you have a custom rom installed, it wouldn't work.

JakeDHS07 said:
I suppose. It will stay until you change roms or update. Long as you don't reflash anything it will persist.
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What exactly is the process to unroot without a reset? I've rooted every device I've owned and never went back... Until this one. I like android pay... So no root for now. Would love to do the mod and unroot if possible to keep Android pay working. But tethering is far more important than taping my phone to pay.

Inside SuperSU app there an Full Unroot option that will do it for you

318sugarhill said:
What exactly is the process to unroot without a reset? I've rooted every device I've owned and never went back... Until this one. I like android pay... So no root for now. Would love to do the mod and unroot if possible to keep Android pay working. But tethering is far more important than taping my phone to pay.
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Just side load the OTA image. Wont wipe a thing

You can just add the following line to your build.prop file, save and reboot then the provisioning check will be bypassed.
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true

I'm curious why this method is better than the one already listed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/themes/mod-tethermod-systemless-install-guide-t3501448
The one linked above can be binded to the /su directory and will survive OTA's...plus it comes with an installer if you use TWRP

JakeDHS07 said:
Inside SuperSU app there an Full Unroot option that will do it for you
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Looks like I'll be rooting tonight then. But in reality other than tethering, I really have no need for root, or a need to jump on 7.1.1 just yet.... Unless there is some shiny new toy hidden inside it lol

Can I unlock bootloader on linux?

Hi,
I currently only have linux machines available and would like to unlock the bootloader on my mi 9T. I actually only want to root the device and have basic things like adblocking on the stock rom. Whats the simplest way to achieve this?
Is it possible to unlock the device without the mi tool that is made only for windows?
Lastly, is it possible to have systemwide adblocking without root?
Thanks

holbot said:
Hi,
I currently only have linux machines available and would like to unlock the bootloader on my mi 9T. I actually only want to root the device and have basic things like adblocking on the stock rom. Whats the simplest way to achieve this?
Is it possible to unlock the device without the mi tool that is made only for windows?
Lastly, is it possible to have systemwide adblocking without root?
Thanks
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Far as i know, no. Since it's a Windows proprietary software of Xiaomi to unlock.
You can try to emulate it with wine and see if it work

Pupet_Master said:
Far as i know, no. Since it's a Windows proprietary software of Xiaomi to unlock.
You can try to emulate it with wine and see if it work
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Too bad... Ok, I might try using wine later.
Thanks

You will need fastboot and adb drivers to work on linux for that, I don't know if it is possible or available for xiaomi phones, even with wine

Hi,
Here is a great way to do it. Worked very well for me:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-vm-xiaomi-unlock-bootloader-using-linux-and-mi-unlock-tool-or-any-other-virtual-machine.4569985/

search Google is not that hard

yaro666 said:
search Google is not that hard
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All Roads Lead to Rome

Substratum for non-rooted Oneplus 8 PRO

Hi All,
I am interested (and maybe more of you) on how to install and make it work Substratum for our Oneplus 8 Pro devices without root.
If you have any solution or any method which works, please post it here.
Cheers.

stefanz08 said:
Hi All,
I am interested (and maybe more of you) on how to install and make it work Substratum for our Oneplus 8 Pro devices without root.
If you have any solution or any method which works, please post it here.
Cheers.
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I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. That's one of the reasons I buy unlocked phones and not from Verizon. I unlock it, root it, install Adaway and Swift Installer right off the bat.

spotmark said:
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. That's one of the reasons I buy unlocked phones and not from Verizon. I unlock it, root it, install Adaway and Swift Installer right off the bat.
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i also bought mine unlocked from Amazon.
But i wouldn;t risk to root it.
Without root there is no other way?
Thanks.

stefanz08 said:
i also bought mine unlocked from Amazon.
But i wouldn;t risk to root it.
Without root there is no other way?
Thanks.
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Not that I know of. Why are you hesitant to root? It's not hard. You just need to do your homework and follow instructions. We all had to start somewhere. Also, if something goes wrong, it's rare to really brick a phone. They can almost always be recovered.

stefanz08 said:
i also bought mine unlocked from Amazon.
But i wouldn;t risk to root it.
Without root there is no other way?
Thanks.
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There's no risk to rooting. Grab the MDM tool it's your always go to tool to bring phone back to stock if there's an issue.
I used to root for Adaway, Viper, and Substratum but with the theme engine now and Blokada (or my personal VPN) and most of my audio listening is not on this device I actually haven't rooted a OnePlus phone in almost a year. Keep in mind if you root you'll lose L1 provisioning (capped at [email protected] on YouTube TV which is a deal breaker for me) along with Netflix and other things that require Widevine DRM to play HD content. Also, having to update the ROM you gotta disable Magisk modules, disable substratum themes, flash the OTA, then reflash TWRP, reflash Magisk, re-enable all your modules and themes. At least this is how it was on the last round of OnePlus devices. Maybe I'm getting older but just simple flash OTA and reboot at my leisure and everything still just works...

Nosferatu. said:
There's no risk to rooting. Grab the MDM tool it's your always go to tool to bring phone back to stock if there's an issue.
I used to root for Adaway, Viper, and Substratum but with the theme engine now and Blokada (or my personal VPN) and most of my audio listening is not on this device I actually haven't rooted a OnePlus phone in almost a year. Keep in mind if you root you'll lose L1 provisioning (capped at [email protected] on YouTube TV which is a deal breaker for me) along with Netflix and other things that require Widevine DRM to play HD content. Also, having to update the ROM you gotta disable Magisk modules, disable substratum themes, flash the OTA, then reflash TWRP, reflash Magisk, re-enable all your modules and themes. At least this is how it was on the last round of OnePlus devices. Maybe I'm getting older but just simple flash OTA and reboot at my leisure and everything still just works...
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i don;t wanna root because of your last 2 rows above. and because i use the MDM tool for work and due to security.
but i would like to custom the quick toggles, the appearance, the look.
if there is any way.. without root

stefanz08 said:
i don;t wanna root because of your last 2 rows above. and because i use the MDM tool for work and due to security.
but i would like to custom the quick toggles, the appearance, the look.
if there is any way.. without root
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Most apps can be light or dark theme.
You can also install DarQ from XDA Labs to dark theme more apps.
Quick Settings in the app store allows you to add a ton of more toggles to quick settings.
Hope that helps.

stefanz08 said:
Hi All,
I am interested (and maybe more of you) on how to install and make it work Substratum for our Oneplus 8 Pro devices without root.
If you have any solution or any method which works, please post it here.
Cheers.
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It's a bit old but you could try Andromeda from the play store and follow the instructions with substratum both installed and access to a PC worth a try couldn't shouldn't hurt

its pointless anyway
even on rotted OxygenOS most themes dont support it so there are always issues with themes
I prefer running custom AOSP ROMs as then themes work much better in terms of versions etc

Nekromantik said:
its pointless anyway
even on rotted OxygenOS most themes dont support it so there are always issues with themes
I prefer running custom AOSP ROMs as then themes work much better in terms of versions etc
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I'm using Swift Installer and no problems. I have just about everything blacked out.

Many packages are supporting it now. Liv Dark, Swift, Darc, Liv Light, Valerie. Def worth the few minutes to gain root access.

Nosferatu. said:
There's no risk to rooting. Grab the MDM tool it's your always go to tool to bring phone back to stock if there's an issue.
I used to root for Adaway, Viper, and Substratum but with the theme engine now and Blokada (or my personal VPN) and most of my audio listening is not on this device I actually haven't rooted a OnePlus phone in almost a year.
Thanks for your feed back,I was looking for somebody to encouraging me not to root OnePlus 8 Pro!
Yes you are right about hard time with update rooted device!
So please if you have any more feed back or apps to help to keep the device not
rooted since ages will be appreciated :good:
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metzo32 said:
Yes you are right about hard time with update rooted device!
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With the local install option, this is one of the easiest phones to upgrade and keep root that I've ever used. Maybe even THE easiest.

spotmark said:
With the local install option, this is one of the easiest phones to upgrade and keep root that I've ever used. Maybe even THE easiest.
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Yes,I did it with 7pro too, maybe getting older )), Just to see this time without root!

metzo32 said:
Thanks for your feed back,I was looking for somebody to encouraging me not to root OnePlus 8 Pro!
Yes you are right about hard time with update rooted device!
So please if you have any more feed back or apps to help to keep the device not
rooted since ages will be appreciated :good:
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What specifically are you looking to duplicate as non-root that you would require root for?
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With the local install option, this is one of the easiest phones to upgrade and keep root that I've ever used. Maybe even THE easiest.
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Given there's no TWRP support as long as nothing goes wrong I agree. If during a flash or if the phone randomly wants to glitch out causing a bootloop during normal usage you're sitting with a paperweight unless you're in front of a computer with ADB and your files available to jump start this device in fastboot. No TWRP and rooting and flashing the boot partition to gain root in most cases likely fine but you're playing with fire without a way to attempt to fix your device while on the go. Correct me if I'm wrong and I might reconsider my personal stance.
In addition, I love this device for the option to root, but the L1-->L3 downgrade in DRM provisioning is a partial deal breaker for my personal usage with YouTube TV. I like to watch sports and being restricted to [email protected] is awful. I could deal with the 480p component but the lack of 60 FPS hockey and football are motion blur central. Keeping it not rooted keeps it at [email protected] or [email protected]

stefanz08 said:
i also bought mine unlocked from Amazon.
But i wouldn;t risk to root it.
Without root there is no other way?
Thanks.
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Don't root if you have no idea what you're doing
But like everyone said previously, root is THE thing to do once you got an Android
There's no harm for your device, if you fail, you flash a whole firmware and youre good to go again

Ippolito1971 said:
Many packages are supporting it now. Liv Dark, Swift, Darc, Liv Light, Valerie. Def worth the few minutes to gain root access.
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hi,
what is not working after root? what applications? banking?
what could be he risks of root device? have data steal or something?
thanks in advance.

stefanz08 said:
hi,
what is not working after root? what applications? banking?
what could be he risks of root device? have data steal or something?
thanks in advance.
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Sorry bro your gonna have to figure that one out. Depends on the subs package and what apps are included in the overlays.

Ippolito1971 said:
Sorry bro your gonna have to figure that one out. Depends on the subs package and what apps are included in the overlays.
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hi,
no need. just returned it.
too many minuses for oneplus 8 pro.
cheers.

stefanz08 said:
hi,
no need. just returned it.
too many minuses for oneplus 8 pro.
cheers.
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Lol I sold mine a few days ago too. Can't justify 1k price. Getting a Poco f2 pro to check out.