hey guys,
i was wondering if there is a way to listen to shoutcast radio via 3G to usb using my i5800. i have alpine cda-117 with imprint installed in my car. it has a usb connection. i want to use alpines usb to charge my i5800 and at the same time to hear sound on my car speakers using the same usb connection. is it possible?
the closest thing i did was i opened opera, pasted a link to a m3u playlist and opera asked me if i would like to save it as a mp3 file on my sd card. in other words it was saving the stream to a mp3 file but my car stereo couldn't see the sd card because it was already in use by opera. any solution ppl?
i wan't to do this because:
1. phones DAC (digital audio codec) wouln't be used. this means the sound quality would be way much better*.
2. less cables.
*the sound from my phone would be sent directly to the imprint sound processor in digital format and then decoded to analog.
thanks in advance.
Sorry but i think there is no way to do so atm... you however could do it using Bluetooth if your car stereo supports this.
my car stereo doesn't have bluetooth that is why i was asking about the usb option. thanks anyway
what app should i use to be able to play shoutcast streams via bluetooth?
Hey everyone! I tried to find it in all threads, including Google search but didn't find anything so it was :
I want to play my music which is stored in android Internal Storage via USB because my Radio/mp3/SD/mmc player doesn't support bluetooth. I connected my USB with music player and my smartphone. But my player says "no USB connection" the player is connected with target (speakers)...
I just wanted to listen music a bit louder
Is there an app or something that could make my day? I'll be waiting for an answer as long as you need
Try viper4android or Dolby atmos or maxxaudio, all works great for our device. Even when greater combined.
I am using my home HI-FI
it works great
Hello,
I am trying out this phone due to it's built-in DAC. I have had other phones that I connected to an external DAC via an OTG USB cable. I have used USB Audio Pro and the Onkyo HF players successful to with good results. It would be nice to have a phone and a quality DAC/Amp/Player all-in-one device.
I noticed that with the Sprint variant of the V20, it only comes with the Google Music Player application. I don't really like the program very much as it is very limited in functionality. It seems to play all of my PCM and DSD files. I did notice, however, that my DSD files don't sound quite right. I believe that the Google Music Player application is doing a conversion to PCM first. Can anybody authenticate or rule this out?
I tried using USB Audio Pro and they claim that they are unable to play DSD files via the Android operating system. As a result, their application does a pcm conversion when an external DAC is NOT attached to the phone, but plays native DSD to a USB attached DAC.
The Onkyo HF player app seems to do the same thing.
Am I missing some settings?
Is Google play converting to PCM prior to output?
Is there a setting in the Onkyo HF Player app that needs to be toggled/adjusted?
Where can I get DETAILED specifications and instructions for use of the DAC in the V20?
mlknez said:
Hello,
I am trying out this phone due to it's built-in DAC. I have had other phones that I connected to an external DAC via an OTG USB cable. I have used USB Audio Pro and the Onkyo HF players successful to with good results. It would be nice to have a phone and a quality DAC/Amp/Player all-in-one device.
I noticed that with the Sprint variant of the V20, it only comes with the Google Music Player application. I don't really like the program very much as it is very limited in functionality. It seems to play all of my PCM and DSD files. I did notice, however, that my DSD files don't sound quite right. I believe that the Google Music Player application is doing a conversion to PCM first. Can anybody authenticate or rule this out?
I tried using USB Audio Pro and they claim that they are unable to play DSD files via the Android operating system. As a result, their application does a pcm conversion when an external DAC is NOT attached to the phone, but plays native DSD to a USB attached DAC.
The Onkyo HF player app seems to do the same thing.
Am I missing some settings?
Is Google play converting to PCM prior to output?
Is there a setting in the Onkyo HF Player app that needs to be toggled/adjusted?
Where can I get DETAILED specifications and instructions for use of the DAC in the V20?
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Whoa. Sounds like you are a connoisseur of good music, high fidelity audio files, and equipment that gives great sound quality. You've opened a new door for me to venture through. Curious to hear what others will reply to this thread...
mlknez said:
Hello,
I am trying out this phone due to it's built-in DAC. I have had other phones that I connected to an external DAC via an OTG USB cable. I have used USB Audio Pro and the Onkyo HF players successful to with good results. It would be nice to have a phone and a quality DAC/Amp/Player all-in-one device.
I noticed that with the Sprint variant of the V20, it only comes with the Google Music Player application. I don't really like the program very much as it is very limited in functionality. It seems to play all of my PCM and DSD files. I did notice, however, that my DSD files don't sound quite right. I believe that the Google Music Player application is doing a conversion to PCM first. Can anybody authenticate or rule this out?
I tried using USB Audio Pro and they claim that they are unable to play DSD files via the Android operating system. As a result, their application does a pcm conversion when an external DAC is NOT attached to the phone, but plays native DSD to a USB attached DAC.
The Onkyo HF player app seems to do the same thing.
Am I missing some settings?
Is Google play converting to PCM prior to output?
Is there a setting in the Onkyo HF Player app that needs to be toggled/adjusted?
Where can I get DETAILED specifications and instructions for use of the DAC in the V20?
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Have you tried the stock music app?
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Have you tried Poweramp? I'm pretty sure it will play hi res music files as is..
mrwinkle13 said:
Have you tried the stock music app?
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The stock music app for the Sprint variant is Google Play Music
douger1957 said:
Have you tried Poweramp? I'm pretty sure it will play hi res music files as is..
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Thanks for the suggestion but you are incorrect. It will only play PCM files and not beyond 48khz.
Someone uploaded the image of the stock music player - if you can't find it let me know and I'll try and pull it myself.
I use this app to enable the DAC for GPM (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix&hl=en). You can really hear a difference flipping the on/off switch. I'm considering completely dropping GPM just because the quality is so much lower for no reason. Even on my G2 the same MP3s would sound better on the default player.
TIDAL also works natively with the DAC, almost as well as the stock launcher. The built-in DAC is far better than my Audioquest Dragonfly USB DAC I've been using
Anarchaotic said:
Someone uploaded the image of the stock music player - if you can't find it let me know and I'll try and pull it myself.
I use this app to enable the DAC for GPM (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix&hl=en). You can really hear a difference flipping the on/off switch. I'm considering completely dropping GPM just because the quality is so much lower for no reason. Even on my G2 the same MP3s would sound better on the default player.
TIDAL also works natively with the DAC, almost as well as the stock launcher. The built-in DAC is far better than my Audioquest Dragonfly USB DAC I've been using
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I am going to cancel my GPM too now that I have the 20 and just use tidal for streaming way better. Hoping they were going to have a better dac in the pixel and upgrade the music on GPM but didn't happen.
I don't have a subscription to the google play music service. I just have the app on the phone and it is the ONLY music player that comes with the phone. It is horrible for playing local music files.
Neutron. Try neutron first and see what happens. And maybe mx player pro though mx is more for video than audio but the type of audio you're using is something that might be embedded in a video file. Worth a shot.
Anyone have issues with gapless playback?
I've tried it with PowerAmp and Black Player and neither work.
Only time it seems to work is if I intentionally skip to the last few seconds of a song to test it.
My music is on my SD card but that really shouldn't be an issue.
Unfortunately, my suspicions were confirmed about the implementation of the ES9218 DAC:
The following is from the developer of the NeutronMP player:
According your logs (Thank you for making them!) OS declares only one
(!!!) frequency - 48000 kHz. You can see it in logs:
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| enum: device 0
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| enum: id = 1
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| enum: type = 1
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| enum: name = LG-LS997
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| enum: is sink = 1
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| enum: is source = 0
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| enum: channels [1]:
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| - 1
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| enum: sample rates [1]:
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| - 48000
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| enum: sample types [1]:
[13:08:16] I <SFX>| - 2
It means firmware does not expose Hi-Fi DAC via this new API. Why LG can not make it and expose DAC and solve the problem with using full potential of the device - puzzle. Neutron would use it automatically if DAC is exposed by the firmware.
Hi guys, and thanks for your information. Can someone point us toward how to use an equalizer effectively? I believe many times folks who put down simply don't understand how to maximize the benefits. In terms of real cans I have HE400s. In terms of ear buds I have the BOs and a set of HE600 ear buds. How do I understand how to maximize my sound and how do I use an equalizer (with Nuetron or other apps).
Thanks Guys
Do some research. Look at the frequency response of the source you're using and the frequency response of the cans you're using. Go from there. Unless you're a tech head st this and have proper equipment it is a little testing and tweaking. Like if you're mids are low on the source and cans you want up the frequencies in the mid range to get it back. But if you doing it blindly then it's a lot testing and tweaking.
This thread is to discuss the audio quality on the HTC U11 with the standard 3.5mm adapter or in use with a third party Amp/DAC.
Please post your findings and solutions with the gear you have used and Apps.
Okay did some extensive testing and research on third party Amp/dac with several devices.
All has to do with Android and their generic USB host audio drivers. As mentioned in a lot of headfi threads.
Apps like Deezer and Spotify or "normal" music players will use those Generic Android USB host audio drivers. Also with external third party dac.
In the Neutron Audio player you can see which driver it will use when sending out Audio. On the LG G4 3.5mm output its (audiotrack) JNI and also on the U11 with the HTC adapter.
On the G4 with Neutron it has the sound signature as with normal players with 3.5mm output.
On the U11 playing with Neutron it has also the same sound signature when streaming with Deezer or Spotify.
In Neutron you can select Audio USB device, and in my case the Dragonfly Black. If you select this in the settings Audio Gain is much higher and headphones comes to live. So it benefits the Dragonfly DAC. Also you can see in the output screen its playing through Dragonfly. Bypassing the Generic Host Driver.
On Deezer/Spotify or other player you will slightly here some difference (with third party DAC )in sound quality but its barely noticable. Because Android uses the JNI Audio. And audio output volume is the same .
So conclussion: if you have music stored locally on your U11 and you play it through Neutron, Onkyo HF player or the great USB Audio Player.
Yes you will benefit from an external Third party DAC.
Otherwise you will barely not...
These are my findings with the U11 (without root) and Dragonfly. Maybe for the Fiio K1 its different but suppose not.
I'll share my findings here when I'll get my hifime sabre 9018 type C dac, should be here in two weeks.
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*justintime* said:
Okay did some extensive testing and research on third party Amp/dac with several devices.
All has to do with Android and their generic USB host audio drivers. As mentioned in a lot of headfi threads.
Apps like Deezer and Spotify or "normal" music players will use those Generic Android USB host audio drivers. Also with external third party dac.
In the Neutron Audio player you can see which driver it will use when sending out Audio. On the LG G4 3.5mm output its (audiotrack) JNI and also on the U11 with the HTC adapter.
On the G4 with Neutron it has the sound signature as with normal players with 3.5mm output.
On the U11 playing with Neutron it has also the same sound signature when streaming with Deezer or Spotify.
In Neutron you can select Audio USB device, and in my case the Dragonfly Black. If you select this in the settings Audio Gain is much higher and headphones comes to live. So it benefits the Dragonfly DAC. Also you can see in the output screen its playing through Dragonfly. Bypassing the Generic Host Driver.
On Deezer/Spotify or other player you will slightly here some difference (with third party DAC )in sound quality but its barely noticable. Because Android uses the JNI Audio. And audio output volume is the same .
So conclussion: if you have music stored locally on your U11 and you play it through Neutron, Onkyo HF player or the great USB Audio Player.
Yes you will benefit from an external Third party DAC.
Otherwise you will barely not...
These are my findings with the U11 (without root) and Dragonfly. Maybe for the Fiio K1 its different but suppose not.
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I have the Dragonfly Black and thinking of getting the Fiio k1. I'm assuming I need a USB A to USB-C cable. I plan to mainly use my Sony MDR-7506s. They didn't sound bad using the included adapter, but I think I can get a little better sound.
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rmc6901 said:
I have the Dragonfly Black and thinking of getting the Fiio k1. I'm assuming I need a USB A to USB-C cable. I plan to mainly use my Sony MDR-7506s. They didn't sound bad using the included adapter, but I think I can get a little better sound.
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Yes you will need a USB C OTG USB A adapter. And you are ready to go.
My advice first try out your Dragonfly. If you are satisfied with the sound.
Where do you want it for? Which apps?
I think Soundwise it's a downgrade from Dragonfly to Fiio. But hey if it supports Spotify or Deezer? Thats my main goal.
*justintime* said:
Okay did some extensive testing and research on third party Amp/dac with several devices.
All has to do with Android and their generic USB host audio drivers. As mentioned in a lot of headfi threads.
Apps like Deezer and Spotify or "normal" music players will use those Generic Android USB host audio drivers. Also with external third party dac.
In the Neutron Audio player you can see which driver it will use when sending out Audio. On the LG G4 3.5mm output its (audiotrack) JNI and also on the U11 with the HTC adapter.
On the G4 with Neutron it has the sound signature as with normal players with 3.5mm output.
On the U11 playing with Neutron it has also the same sound signature when streaming with Deezer or Spotify.
In Neutron you can select Audio USB device, and in my case the Dragonfly Black. If you select this in the settings Audio Gain is much higher and headphones comes to live. So it benefits the Dragonfly DAC. Also you can see in the output screen its playing through Dragonfly. Bypassing the Generic Host Driver.
On Deezer/Spotify or other player you will slightly here some difference (with third party DAC )in sound quality but its barely noticable. Because Android uses the JNI Audio. And audio output volume is the same .
So conclussion: if you have music stored locally on your U11 and you play it through Neutron, Onkyo HF player or the great USB Audio Player.
Yes you will benefit from an external Third party DAC.
Otherwise you will barely not...
These are my findings with the U11 (without root) and Dragonfly. Maybe for the Fiio K1 its different but suppose not.
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Would these settings also be in PowerAmp by any chance. Looking to buy the DragonFly, Anker USB-C3.1 to USB 3.0 A Cable and Ivanky Aux Cable. Or should I be using the Neutron Player?
Honestly the supplied DAC hooked to a no-name brand 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable to my jeep sounds great as is. Volume on phone set at maybe 75% and Jeep volume maybe 75% as well and it is pretty loud and clear, Bass is booming and good highs. If many of you say an external DAc will greatly improve the audio, im all in. Summer is around the corner and sitting in traffic everyday needs windows down music up high.
schmeggy929 said:
Would these settings also be in PowerAmp by any chance. Looking to buy the DragonFly, Anker USB-C3.1 to USB 3.0 A Cable and Ivanky Aux Cable. Or should I be using the Neutron Player?
Honestly the supplied DAC hooked to a no-name brand 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable to my jeep sounds great as is. Volume on phone set at maybe 75% and Jeep volume maybe 75% as well and it is pretty loud and clear, Bass is booming and good highs. If many of you say an external DAc will greatly improve the audio, im all in. Summer is around the corner and sitting in traffic everyday needs windows down music up high.
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I have tested Poweramp but does also uses the normal USB Host Drivers.
You will have to switch to indeed Neutron Onkyo HF player or USB Audio Player. Which is the nicest IMO.
And yes if you will use those Apps with local music content (or Qobuz Tidal, Spotify and deezer are not supported in that app) its way better than standard adapter.
*justintime* said:
I have tested Poweramp but does also uses the normal USB Host Drivers.
You will have to switch to indeed Neutron Onkyo HF player or USB Audio Player. Which is the nicest IMO.
And yes if you will use those Apps with local music content (or Qobuz Tidal, Spotify and deezer are not supported in that app its way better than standard adapter.
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Ok sounds good, lol. Amazon says my goodies will be 115.00, not too bad for none bulky equipment.
So far I notice no difference between using the K1 on a high end PC and using it on my U11, as in I don't think the K1 cares which host driver is being used. Audio quality sounds the same on whatever device I pair the K1 with.
Just installed Neutron, comparing standard JNI driver and K1 driver, if there is any change, my ears cannot hear it. There is a subtle difference and I do me subtle difference between neutron and Spotify but I feel that is due to all of Neutron correction features etc. Either way, I can't tell which sounds better and there is no way I am trying to source 4000 songs just to play on Neutron for an inconceivable difference
This is weird. I installed USB audio player pro and as a result, I could get no audio through headphones using power amp or neutron. I had to uninstall usb audio player and then I got sound back. Any ideas? I restarted, but that didn't help. Usb audio player looked pretty good, but I couldn't figure out how to display album art.
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rmc6901 said:
This is weird. I installed USB audio player pro and as a result, I could get no audio through headphones using power amp or neutron. I had to uninstall usb audio player and then I got sound back. Any ideas? I restarted, but that didn't help. Usb audio player looked pretty good, but I couldn't figure out how to display album art.
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Just bought USB Audio Player Pro today. No issue and works good. Gain and eq is nice. Played music from stock DAC cable to Jeep the whole 1 1/2 hour ride home, no issues(music from sdcard). Just tried with stock earphones and music plays fine in PowerAmp.
Thanks. I'll give it another try. I might have changed a setting that affected the other players.
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Just using HTCs cheaper headphones I bought a couple months back. They sound pretty decent to me, but I can definitely hear the volume difference between 11 and 10. I'm hoping that HTC could add back the option to have custom profiles for different headphones/audio setups.
Galactus said:
So far I notice no difference between using the K1 on a high end PC and using it on my U11, as in I don't think the K1 cares which host driver is being used. Audio quality sounds the same on whatever device I pair the K1 with.
Just installed Neutron, comparing standard JNI driver and K1 driver, if there is any change, my ears cannot hear it. There is a subtle difference and I do me subtle difference between neutron and Spotify but I feel that is due to all of Neutron correction features etc. Either way, I can't tell which sounds better and there is no way I am trying to source 4000 songs just to play on Neutron for an inconceivable difference
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That could be a good sign that it's ignoring the universal USB host drivers for audio.
My K1 should arrive today. Let's hope it will work out.
Guys, don't you think we should talk about this in main thread as I wrote my thoughts about it? It would be tough to follow two threads which I'm sure gonna forget after a while. Also Hamdir confirms that we should be in main thread too.
And it would be good to talk about tricks and mods for the HTC adapter not only third party DAC :fingers-crossed:
It's getting crazier day by day. Received a usb c to micro usb cable without OTG.
Now the blue led from the K1 doesn't come on.
Tomorrow to a shop to try some cables...
Well just recieved the DragonFly Black v1.5 along with an Anker USB-C OTC Host data cable. Attached to phone and old HTC 3.5mm jack earphones and played a few songs through USB Audio Player Pro. The hardware volume is set at 50% and App volume is amazingly around 10% and its loud! Sounds is awesome too, will check tomorrow attached to Jeep Aux.
I'll have to grab a dragon fly black eventually. Just wondering what battery drain will be like. Hasn't been too much using the K1 but I know the Dragonfly can really pump out the volts
schmeggy929 said:
Well just recieved the DragonFly Black v1.5 along with an Anker USB-C OTC Host data cable. Attached to phone and old HTC 3.5mm jack earphones and played a few songs through USB Audio Player Pro. The hardware volume is set at 50% and App volume is amazingly around 10% and its loud! Sounds is awesome too, will check tomorrow attached to Jeep Aux.
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Great that it work out for you. Sound quality is indeed a lot better with a dedicated player like UAPP.
Hello,
I own a LG Q8 (a V20 European version)
I have these needs.
1) Listen to music on the phone through
2) Send music to the external DAC via USB port otg
3) Listen to music on a hard disk connected to the router via wifi via the phone.
What app allows me to do all these things without losing quality?
I currently use the LG application to listen to music from the phone
and to send the music on the phone to the DAC exsternal
And use VLC to listen to HD music on wifi
But I would like to unify things and then VLC does not let me see the covers of the albums
sorry for my english but i translated it with Google translate )
thank you