https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/phone-by-google/FRyoLZZjXvo
Straight out of googles mouth. This is great news and makes me even more confident with my purchase.
yeah, but that's kinda like hyundai and their 10-year warranties. nobody would buy them otherwise. but i'll give the pixel 2 the ol' college try when the price comes down....
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yeah, but that's kinda like hyundai and their 10-year warranties. nobody would buy them otherwise. but i'll give the pixel 2 the ol' college try when the price comes down....
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I hear you but after spending almost a grand (canadian) on a phone, that 2 years warranty, atleast you can be comfortable to know that you're covered for 2 years
Thanks OP. This is awesome. After using this phone for a week, it is easily the best phone I've ever had. The extra warranty just makes it that much better.
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I hear you but after spending almost a grand (canadian) on a phone, that 2 years warranty, atleast you can be comfortable to know that you're covered for 2 years
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100% understood.
however, therein lies your problem - spending that much money (in any currency) on a piece of technology that will be obsolete in 2 years (or even be cut in half in a month).
but don't listen to me, I'd probably just blow that money at the casino or some girly club...
Is this international warranty?
I bought Pixel2 in UK. Can i avail warranty in India?
bittu4u4ever said:
Is this international warranty?
I bought Pixel2 in UK. Can i avail warranty in India?
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The Googles warranty page is pretty simple. Basically, you have warranty where you bought it.
If you bought it in the UK, then you have warranty in the UK.
If you live in India but bought in the UK or elsewhere, you have to get it to the where you bought it from for warranty services.
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100% understood.
however, therein lies your problem - spending that much money (in any currency) on a piece of technology that will be obsolete in 2 years (or even be cut in half in a month).
but don't listen to me, I'd probably just blow that money at the casino or some girly club...
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Unfortunately the expensive price point is only getting worst. People are commiting saying the pixel 2 xl is "affordable" flag ship because the note 8, iPhone 8 plus (256 GB) and of course the iPhone X are around $1k(give or take)
Doesn't seem that long ago $650 was considered a normal for flag ship and was not cheap or affordable by tech pundits.
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Unfortunately the expensive price point is only getting worst. People are commiting saying the pixel 2 xl is "affordable" flag ship because the note 8, iPhone 8 plus (256 GB) and of course the iPhone X are around $1k(give or take)
Doesn't seem that long ago $650 was considered a normal for flag ship and was not cheap or affordable by tech pundits.
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The Pixel 2 (5") is a flagship (I think) and it costs $650. Yes the 2 XL is more. There are good, reliable phones available for $250, $400, $650, $850, etc.
I don't quite understand your point of view and others that complain about the price. I am a big proponent of capitalism and I think you should vote with your wallet. If you think that a particular device does not warrant the cost it would take to procure, then you should not give that company your money. But what is everyone complaining about with the Pixel 2 XL, the Note8, and the iPhoneX pricing? You want something better, with more expensive components. You want it to run faster and smoother with more software features, and you want it to get updates, have a good warranty. What do you think you are paying for when you buy a flagship phone? The 2 XL, Note8, and iPhoneX all have features and aspects that make one better than the other. Each device will serve certain individuals better than others. That's why there is a market for them. You have a choice. Want a better screen, get a Note 8 or iPhoneX. Want updates? Get a Pixel 2 / 2 XL. Want a stylus? Get a Note8. Each are the best devices ever made from their respective company. You pay more for more of a product.
The Nexus 6 was $650 in 2014. It was a 6" screen and a flagship. That phone utterly sucks compared to the Pixel 2 / 2 XL. More phone, more money.
I think I'm going to go on forums and complain that Aston Martins and Ferraris aren't the same price they were in 1995. I mean yea, they are better/ faster / nicer than they were 22 years ago, but I want to pay 1995 prices for the new DB11 or the 488. Why is the the 2018 Honda Accord so much more than it was in 1995? $15,180 in 1995. $24,445 in 2018! WTF
It doesn't make sense. Every dollar is an opportunity cost.
Sorry if my rant came across pointed at you. It was not. I just get tired of seeing all the complaints about price.
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The Pixel 2 (5") is a flagship (I think) and it costs $650. Yes the 2 XL is more. There are good, reliable phones available for $250, $400, $650, $850, etc.
I don't quite understand your point of view and others that complain about the price. I am a big proponent of capitalism and I think you should vote with your wallet. If you think that a particular device does not warrant the cost it would take to procure, then you should not give that company your money. But what is everyone complaining about with the Pixel 2 XL, the Note8, and the iPhoneX pricing? You want something better, with more expensive components. You want it to run faster and smoother with more software features, and you want it to get updates, have a good warranty. What do you think you are paying for when you buy a flagship phone? The 2 XL, Note8, and iPhoneX all have features and aspects that make one better than the other. Each device will serve certain individuals better than others. That's why there is a market for them. You have a choice. Want a better screen, get a Note 8 or iPhoneX. Want updates? Get a Pixel 2 / 2 XL. Want a stylus? Get a Note8. Each are the best devices ever made from their respective company. You pay more for more of a product.
The Nexus 6 was $650 in 2014. It was a 6" screen and a flagship. That phone utterly sucks compared to the Pixel 2 / 2 XL. More phone, more money.
I think I'm going to go on forums and complain that Aston Martins and Ferraris aren't the same price they were in 1995. I mean yea, they are better/ faster / nicer than they were 22 years ago, but I want to pay 1995 prices for the new DB11 or the 488. Why is the the 2018 Honda Accord so much more than it was in 1995? $15,180 in 1995. $24,445 in 2018! WTF
It doesn't make sense. Every dollar is an opportunity cost.
Sorry if my rant came across pointed at you. It was not. I just get tired of seeing all the complaints about price.
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My post was in response to a comment about spending so much money on a device that will be obsolete in 2 years. Sure you can drop several thousands of dollars on a laptop but it will be supported for many years, and depending on the OEM can potentially be upgraded down the line.
Yes there are a ton of options from various different price points, and are all great devices that suit people's needs differently. The flagship prices are getting a little ridiculous but it's here to stay. There are a number of demands including demand, premium hardware, cost of materials, cost of gas etc. I don't like the rising cost of phones but I understand it. I do think the complaint of phone's (especially flagship phones) raising prices are valid with the disposable nature and planned obsolescence of phones. With the exception of Google and Apple OEM's push out new phones leaving older phones outdated for months if they ever get supported at all.
The Nexus 6 in 2014 was a beast of a phone, and even then people were complaining that the Nexus 6 was far too expensive (for a Nexus) I still have my Nexus 6 and it runs like a champ. It's hard to compare a modern phone to a phone 3 years old. IMO the Nexus 6 was a better phone for the time. This is subjective of course.
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My post was in response to a comment about spending so much money on a device that will be obsolete in 2 years. Sure you can drop several thousands of dollars on a laptop but it will be supported for many years, and depending on the OEM can potentially be upgraded down the line.
Yes there are a ton of options from various different price points, and are all great devices that suit people's needs differently. The flagship prices are getting a little ridiculous but it's here to stay. There are a number of demands including demand, premium hardware, cost of materials, cost of gas etc. I don't like the rising cost of phones but I understand it. I do think the complaint of phone's (especially flagship phones) raising prices are valid with the disposable nature and planned obsolescence of phones. With the exception of Google and Apple OEM's push out new phones leaving older phones outdated for months if they ever get supported at all.
The Nexus 6 in 2014 was a beast of a phone, and even then people were complaining that the Nexus 6 was far too expensive (for a Nexus) I still have my Nexus 6 and it runs like a champ. It's hard to compare a modern phone to a phone 3 years old. IMO the Nexus 6 was a better phone for the time. This is subjective of course.
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I agree with that. I had the Nexus 6 as well. I thought it was a great phone when I had it.
Sorry about the post. I have grown so weary of people complaining about the 2 XL screen issues and it's cost. "For $850, I should get a better screen, or expandable storage, or fake colors." Buy it or something else, or save your money. Drama.
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I agree with that. I had the Nexus 6 as well. I thought it was a great phone when I had it.
Sorry about the post. I have grown so weary of people complaining about the 2 XL screen issues and it's cost. "For $850, I should get a better screen, or expandable storage, or fake colors." Buy it or something else, or save your money. Drama.
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Fair enough, I still think the Pixel 2 xl complaints are valid but I will agree it's getting old hearing the same argument over and over again. I think the Pixel 2 is a better value not just because it's cheaper but an over all better value.
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Fair enough, I still think the Pixel 2 xl complaints are valid but I will agree it's getting old hearing the same argument over and over again. I think the Pixel 2 is a better value not just because it's cheaper but an over all better value.
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Agreed. After handling both, I genuinely liked the Pixel 2 better. So far mine has been flawless.
also to through in there, the costs of the phones have been relatively the same over time - the difference has been the way the wireless carriers price them. if you recall (not too long ago), these phones would cost $200-$300, but required a 2-year contract. but if you did NOT want a contract, you had to pay the retail price of $600-$700.
also, when a phone first comes out (as with any new gizmo), the initial price is always inflated.
but otherwise, I agree - if you don't like the product, find something else.
Generally speaking there are multiple sweet spots to buy a new phone.
Immediately at launch I get a Home Mini which I'll sell (-$50), and the T-Mobile promotion which will save me a lot even after the temporary cost of an extra line ($-250 net). So factor that in, my new Pixel 2 is costing me $350 (even less after I sell my old phone). I consider this an excellent deal.
There's a period of about 6-8 months though after launch that is the absolute worst time to buy a new device. None of the launch promos, none of the discounts.
After that, promos and sales start again.
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My post was in response to a comment about spending so much money on a device that will be obsolete in 2 years. Sure you can drop several thousands of dollars on a laptop but it will be supported for many years, and depending on the OEM can potentially be upgraded down the line.
Yes there are a ton of options from various different price points, and are all great devices that suit people's needs differently. The flagship prices are getting a little ridiculous but it's here to stay. There are a number of demands including demand, premium hardware, cost of materials, cost of gas etc. I don't like the rising cost of phones but I understand it. I do think the complaint of phone's (especially flagship phones) raising prices are valid with the disposable nature and planned obsolescence of phones. With the exception of Google and Apple OEM's push out new phones leaving older phones outdated for months if they ever get supported at all.
The Nexus 6 in 2014 was a beast of a phone, and even then people were complaining that the Nexus 6 was far too expensive (for a Nexus) I still have my Nexus 6 and it runs like a champ. It's hard to compare a modern phone to a phone 3 years old. IMO the Nexus 6 was a better phone for the time. This is subjective of course.
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That thinking is why I actually got the Pixel. It was the n only one that I could find that would Guarantee 3 years of updates. For once I am actually excited on not what may be coming down the pipe. And after that hopefully Project Treble would make more manufactures update sooner and faster.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/1867...irst_week_of_sales_were_weak_report_says.html
Thats a ton of complaints coming out for only 20k sales.
Not being available in T-Mo stores really hurt sales. I think being able to see this screen and hold it in person would move a hell of alot more units.
he Nexus One didn't benefit from such a strong marketing push like the Motorola Droid (estimated $100 million), despite Google's phone featuring so-far unique Android features. This has reflected in poor first week sales for the Nexus One, as per the table below. (Click image above to enlarge)
Instead, Google chose a soft launch for the Nexus One, selling it through their website. But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales.
Flurry's report mentions that the Nexus One lacks the "wow factor" and the general perception that the device is not seen as revolutionary, but rather just evolutionary from other Android phones.
Om Malik, of GigaOm, notes that Flurry's estimated sales numbers for the Nexus One might even be a bit far fetched. He mentions Google has been giving away the Nexus One to its employees and also lent it to many members of the media for reviews, which could have bumped up Flurry's analytics.
Next to the poor first week sales figure, the Nexus One has also seen mounting complaints over the 3G connectivity of the device and the lack of developer tools for the Android 2.1 platform.
In her review of the Nexus One, my colleague Ginny Mies notes that Google's phone "isn't quite the game-changer people hoped it would be, though it certainly trumps other phones in performance, display quality, and speed." Next to pros like a dazzling OLED display, snappy performance and sleep, slim design, she marks the lack of multitouch support and the software keyboard as cons.
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE
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awww Fuuudgdeeee
Had to be 2 new yorkers didnt it. lol
Agree with this though. Ive been saying I hope a ton of people want it but few get it. That way Google is pressed to resolve there customer service and HW issues and early adopters dont look like bandwagon jumpers for the latest fashion device.
On the flip side... I hope Google doesnt turn around and blame Tmobile. Tmo and Google have been continually bringing out Android sets I hope that relationship doesnt sour because of this.
Actually 20k in sales for a phone that has reportedly had the vast majority of users buy the unlocked version is pretty damn good (Leo Laporte mentioned it on TWiT on Sunday)
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
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As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....
The bad press on this phone is silly. It takes nothing into consideration, bends around the truth, and just sounds misinformed. This phone had a soft launch, wasn't available in stores, no television ads, and wasn't really advertised by Google until the day of it's launch.
These soft launches make an impact. Word will spread and then it will pop up and explode on Verizon. I'm not even trying to defend the device, it just makes me angry seeing so much misinformed crap popping up on the web.
"But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
Mixed reviews meaning angry fanboys? I don't get it. The thing runs Android really well, is fast as hell, looks great, has a good camera, etc. I have no idea what people were expecting. Android has been out, and this was stated to be an Android device.
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As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....
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+1
everybody and their dog has an iphone. i'd rather have something few others do
To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.
My proverbial 2 cents...
#1. It's hard for someone to drop that much cash on a phone unseen. Like others have pointed out, it's hard to sell a mobile phone without being able to "touch" it and play with it at a retail store.
#2. The N1 is one of the first handsets relatively available for purchase which has the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor. I honestly think the "hacking" community for the N1 will be similar of what the G1 (HTC Dream) has seen... In other words, the HTC Passion is basically the next great hacking platform as the HTC Dream experienced.
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So essentially 1 in 150,000 Americans (ROUGHLY, only considering domestic sales) are packin the N1 - Sounds like a pretty elite/exclusive group if you ask me
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Also, to add onto this...I don't think the price is steep at all. In fact it is cheaper than many other unlocked devices with lesser hardware. Also, it has been pointed out in many places that getting the unlocked version is cheaper than going with the subsidized version and mandatory plan.
When a phone can be purchased only from one location and one URL only gadget freaks like us know about it's existence. Some of my friends who think they are gadget freaks were shocked to see my phone over the weekend. They didn't even know about it yet. Forget the common man. Unless, the phone is sold in T-mobile, and B&M stores, it will be hard to sell like Driod.
Except for lousy T-mobile 3G inside buildings, I love this phone. But I am seriously thinking about returning just to go back to AT&T as I would like to stay with the best GSM carrier who gets most unlocked 3G phones so I can keep changing my phones every few months.
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To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.
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I agree. This seems similar to Gmail when it was in Beta....and Gvoice. Only certain people had it and it was invite only. This seems to make a launch more manageable (less volume) and the inital adopters are the ones who typically want it the most and spread the word to others for free.
I want one... I just don't want to pay $530 to be a beta tester. I think once the 3g issues are solved we'll see alot more people pay for the phone
once Verizon and vodaphone get this phone. Sales will SKY rocket.
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The only way for a big change in sales would be to sell the Nexus One in stores, mainstream buyers are not going to spend premium money on a handset that they can not handle first.
There are not enough early adopters and tech heads like most of us on this site to make a major impact on sales. Plus many of us are holding off to see how the 3G issue gets handled before buying.
since they didnt really air commercial for the phone and it is only available online. the numbers are pretty good.
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The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Yeah... Putting the parts together... probably costs more than the parts themselves, including labor.
Sure, I could get the "parts" for my car too for less than a quarter of what it sells for... I wouldn't want to try to assemble it though!
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The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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...not to mention R&D
I still have people ask me when its coming out when I show them mine, this phone is still very "underground"
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The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Can you send me a link to where you found out the hardware only cost $175 for the nexus one. I would like to see how much the snapdragon proc costs, and the 512mb of ram, and all the other components in the phone, and just the cost of putting it together.
And I am not referring to licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
Just the hardware and the costs to put the phone together. I call bull**** on the $175 dollars.
That is how much it might cost to put together the iphone 3gs with much cheaper hardware. But the Nexus One hardware is another story.
At USD $649 for a 5" Google Pixel phone compared with nexus 5x price of USD $379
what are your thoughts on pricing, (POLL on top)
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Article by xda, talking about Pixel price.
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How about an option "too high, but eff it, I bought one anyway"?
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How about an option "too high, but eff it, I bought one anyway"?
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maybe the last option ?
128 GB Flash and a 5 inch screen. This is what i'm looking for, a long time now.
Hopefully the Pixel phones also have an unlockable bootloader like all the Nexus phones have - otherwise it's a no-go.
See my thread:
Just bought a Nexus 5X 32 GB for 245 € instead of Pixel 759€
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See my thread:
Just bought a Nexus 5X 32 GB for 245 € instead of Pixel 759€
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Thats a good price but these 2 phones are technicaly not compareble.
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Thats a good price but these 2 phones are technicaly not compareble.
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technically yes. And yep I was really looking forward for more than 2gb Ram and an AMOLED screen but this phone simply doesn't offer for me the justification to be 500€ more expensive than the Nexus 5X.
Come on: I think everyone was kind of waiting for the secret killer feature that wasn't announced. I personally bet that the glass/plastic back is touch enabled for swipe/scroll gestures but that did not happen. Daydreams seems still not 100% ready..
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technically yes. And yep I was really looking forward for more than 2gb Ram and an AMOLED screen but this phone simply doesn't offer for me the justification to be 500€ more expensive than the Nexus 5X.
Come on: I think everyone was kind of waiting for the secret killer feature that wasn't announced. I personally bet that the glass/plastic back is touch enabled for swipe/scroll gestures but that did not happen. Daydreams seems still not 100% ready..
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I completely agree with you. I will not get one of these 2 devices either because of the price and its not a huge upgrade from the 6P imo.
The RAM is the main advantage to me.... (2GB for 64-bit android is an error, even the N5 2013 has less redraws. N5X should have had 3GB! )
On the other hand, the battery life (seems to have much better autonomy) and the AMOLED panel is another advantage.
But I bought the 5X at 300€ in Amazon (6 months after the release date). So I'll wait to see this Pixel at 500€ before buy it.
Much prefer LCD to AMOLED.
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Much prefer LCD to AMOLED.
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seems like technology is moving towards amoled, the last of big brands that used lcd is apple
The camera sensors are NOT the same. They're just the same in terms of megapixels, which most photographers know isn't everything. Pixel should win in that category as well.
I'm having a real tough time deciding on what to do.... Buy a Pixel for 750 with protection plan, (no way in hell I'm financing at 29 .9% APR, friggin criminals), or buy an HTC 10, which is comparable to the Pixel, plus it has an SDCard and it's 550 bucks right now.....
Way overpriced - just like Apple's iPhone 7. Very dissapointed.
The pricing on these is out of touch with reality. Maybe its a part of the same pricing model they did on the Nexus 6 where all the fanboys and people who just dont know better pay full price, then 2 months later, its selling for $349.
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I think these western phone manufacturers just prices them out of the market when chinese cheap and same spec phones are getting into the hands of masses. When people are getting poorer and poorer they just dont have money to purchase 750$ phones.
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At USD $649 for a 5" Google Pixel phone compared with nexus 5x price of USD $349
what are your thoughts on pricing, (POLL on top)
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Wow that definitely does look quite shocking for the new pixel though you are forgetting some of the new features of the Pixel!
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technically yes. And yep I was really looking forward for more than 2gb Ram and an AMOLED screen but this phone simply doesn't offer for me the justification to be 500€ more expensive than the Nexus 5X.
Come on: I think everyone was kind of waiting for the secret killer feature that wasn't announced. I personally bet that the glass/plastic back is touch enabled for swipe/scroll gestures but that did not happen. Daydreams seems still not 100% ready..
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The non-metal part of the back is there so that the antennas behind it will actually pick up RF. Doesn't make sense for a cell phone to not be able to get cell service!
Daydream is a gimmick and will ALWAYS be a gimmick.
The way forward for hardware, is always going to be better (smaller/faster/more capable) hardware.
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I completely agree with you. I will not get one of these 2 devices either because of the price and its not a huge upgrade from the 6P imo.
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The 6P is a bit of an oddball unit, not really necessary, since it is a downgrade from the 6 before it (face it, 64bit doesn't provide any benefit to the workloads you get on a PHONE), and a very highly optimized and cool running 32bit chip can run circles around a run of the mill bone stock A57 reference toaster element.
Now the new kryo cores... those are optimized cool running 64bit chips in the same way as the 32bit krait450. Certainly not enough to be worth spending a pile of money on to replace a Nexus 6, but if you're in need of a phone, it is definitely the best and would be the best choice.
I'm hanging on to my Nexus 6, but I'm getting the pixel 5/128 for the wife, whose Nexus 5 is starting to flake out.
I think that one of the problems that people have is in understanding when to buy a phone and when not to. There are NO "revolutionary" new things to be had, the changes are incremental. So don't do stupid things like continually replacing your phone with whatever the "newest" one is, since there won't be a significant difference. But when you *need* a new phone, then pick the best nexus/pixel and buy it.
boy they missed the boat on this one. Pricing is outrageous. I'm not an iphone user . but As much as it looks like it wants to be, its not an iphone. Your average joe isn't going to buy this at this price. They'll say, google pixel, eh never heard of it, i'm not dropping $900 on a phone i've never heard of. But they will drop $900 on an iphone because it has created a brand that people know and trust. This is a major fail in pricing. At this price it should have EVERYTHING out there, it doesn't even have wireless charging, no expandable memory, no removalable battery, and isnt' even water proof. It'd be a HARD sell to get a normal person to fork out 100-125 more for this over a S7 or similar. FAIL
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boy they missed the boat on this one. Pricing is outrageous. I'm not an iphone user . but As much as it looks like it wants to be, its not an iphone. Your average joe isn't going to buy this at this price. They'll say, google pixel, eh never heard of it, i'm not dropping $900 on a phone i've never heard of. But they will drop $900 on an iphone because it has created a brand that people know and trust. This is a major fail in pricing. At this price it should have EVERYTHING out there, it doesn't even have wireless charging, no expandable memory, no removalable battery, and isnt' even water proof. It'd be a HARD sell to get a normal person to fork out 100-125 more for this over a S7 or similar. FAIL
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Those features are not there yet because there has to be something left for the coming generations of pixels in case there is no big development of software...
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In Germany you have to pay 759€ for the version with 32GB.
Sorry Google but I just did something I thought I'd never do: buy a Nexus from last year instead buying the very best Google has to offer.
For 245€ I got a 32 GB Nexus 5x. A good upgrade form my 16GB Nexus 4 which I loved so much.
Sure, I get it: let's just price the Pixel nearly the same as an iPhone 7 but for a company that's doing 'its very own phone' (hello HTC) for the first time this price is just nuts.
I am so angry atm but I really want to hear your opinion on pricing. Except daydream VR this phone has simply nothing that stands out from the competition and now please don't come with the 'best camera in any smartphone'. I have waited for a big nexus upgrade for years now and I can't believe that this is ruined by a price that's beyond good and evil. I kinda waited the whole time for 'one more thing'.....the pixel will support Andromeda via USB type C in the future or something similar but no.
BIG DISAPPOINTMENT.
Very happy that I got a Nexus 5x now so cheap!
I totally agree. I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Nexus 5 for years and Google have blown it with this crazy price. :crying:
I bet the pixel won't even run as well as the Nexus 5 in the good old days of kit kat and for double the price. WTF, Google. Apart from doze, it's all been down hill since kit kat.
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I totally agree. I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Nexus 5 for years and Google have blown it with this crazy price. :crying:
I bet the pixel won't even run as well as the Nexus 5 in the good old days of kit kat and for double the price. WTF, Google. Apart from doze, it's all been down hill since kit kat.
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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I was burnt by the low ram on the Nexus 9 so I'm giving the 5x a miss. It will be the one plus 3 or a Nexus 6p if I see one at the right price. Thanks for the suggestion seb. :highfive:
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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N5 is not x86 its arm.
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N5 is not x86 its arm.
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Here in Germany it starts at 759,00 € or $851.37.
I think it would be cheaper to buy it in the US and pay the taxes.
Bummer that the pixel is so expensive. On the other hand though, Google allows you to finance the phone so I MAY do that. $649 up front is too much, but $27/month is fine.
I'm very interested in the new google assistant because I use google now a lot. Also, I use google photos as well so the free unlimited storage is very enticing.
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Bummer that the pixel is so expensive. On the other hand though, Google allows you to finance the phone so I MAY do that. $649 up front is too much, but $27/month is fine.
I'm very interested in the new google assistant because I use google now a lot. Also, I use google photos as well so the free unlimited storage is very enticing.
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It doesn't look like you can do the financing option in the UK yet.
For anyone in a location in which the financing option is available is it possible to upgrade after a year? One nice thing about the Apple upgrade program is that even though it is a 2 year agreement you can upgrade every year provided you return your old phone in good condition which shouldn't be too hard as it includes accidental damage cover.
Obviously if you only upgrade your phone once every 2 years either would be fine, but I'm a bit worried Google will actually work out twice as expensive as owning an Apple device if you upgrade each year...
$$$ no way Jose
Bought the wife a 5x on sale 6 weeks ago for $199 shipped (new)
I've had a nexus 5 since release in 2013.
Was chomping at the bit for the new Google phone.
Was hoping no more than $499, nope.
So bought a moto g4 plus yesterday for $249.
Only 2 gigs ram and 16 gig storage but has an sd card slot.
Much better looking display than the 5x. 3000 mah battery.
Unless you need a lot of ram for gaming or whatever the moto is a good choice.
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It doesn't look like you can do the financing option in the UK yet.
For anyone in a location in which the financing option is available is it possible to upgrade after a year? One nice thing about the Apple upgrade program is that even though it is a 2 year agreement you can upgrade every year provided you return your old phone in good condition which shouldn't be too hard as it includes accidental damage cover.
Obviously if you only upgrade your phone once every 2 years either would be fine, but I'm a bit worried Google will actually work out twice as expensive as owning an Apple device if you upgrade each year...
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My EXACT thoughts, as well. I recently made the switch away from Android for the first time to see what all the fuss was about with the iPhone 7. So far, I must admit that I am very pleased with the phone. Especially with how seamless it is with my Mac. But I was still anticipating the Pixel launch to see what Google had to offer. The phone itself looks great. But what you mentioned above is the big thing preventing me from returning the iPhone and getting the Pixel phone. With the iPhone, I'm locked in for two years but when the new one comes out next year I just take this one into the Apple store and walk out with the new one. It's a really great concept.
I'm afraid you are right about Google. I imagine if they were going to have an upgrade program, they would have announced it when discussing pricing to help justify the extremely high price point. Without that and with the resale value of these phones being about 50% 12 months after purchasing (based off what I've seen from the recent Nexus phones), the total cost to upgrade to the new Google phone every year just skyrocketed compared to what it used to be with the sub $450 nexus phones.
Because of this I'm having a very hard time trying to justify picking one up. Which is sad considering this will now be the first Nexus (i know... "Pixel") I haven't purchased after initial release.
EDIT: After wasting my afternoon reading tons of articles about the phone and watching the first few "hands on" videos, I decided to bite the bullet and purchase the 5" Pixel (Black, 128GB version). I have 3 more days to return my iPhone 7 for a full refund so it was either do it now or face the possibility of regret and be stuck with this $850 iPhone.
I still think the Pixel is overpriced but it does look to be an extremely solid phone. And I opted for the 128GB version to give myself a little future proofing. I'm planning on holding onto the Pixel for 2 years this time around, rather than making a quick phone jump again next year. This mindset helped me justify the price. Hopefully I can stick to that plan.
The pixel is so average, it has nothing my £300 OnePlus 3 doesn't have. Google's phone is overpriced and about as naff as their new bull**** chat app, Allo. Not impressed. Sub par. And those prices? Google has shot right up the ranks of overpriced **** to join Apple and Samsung. Ludicrous.
another thing I want to mention: Google spoke all the time about how Hardware and Software works together in this phone, especially with the Google assistant but hell, we all know that the assistant has nothing to do with hardware. It's just Android 7.1 and exclusivnes. Plus most of the talked about 'features' were just apps you can get in the playstore.
Another thing: if I buy an iPhone for the same price, I kind of know that I can sell it after like 11month for about 75% of the original price. NOT so with the pixel plus Apple provides the longest software updates. Just remember how freacking long the iPhone 4 was supported..!!
I am happy if my upcoming 5x would get fully featured Android 8. Even now when Android 7.1 seems ready they said that first betas can be expected by the end of the year..??!
I'd suggest the honor 8 if you want a one handed phone that's cheap and great quality
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Bought the wife a 5x on sale 6 weeks ago for $199 shipped (new)
I've had a nexus 5 since release in 2013.
Was chomping at the bit for the new Google phone.
Was hoping no more than $499, nope.
So bought a moto g4 plus yesterday for $249.
Only 2 gigs ram and 16 gig storage but has an sd card slot.
Much better looking display than the 5x. 3000 mah battery.
Unless you need a lot of ram for gaming or whatever the moto is a good choice.
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Me too, bought the Moto G4 Plus for 266 euro`s a week ago and its working perfect for me and has a front firing speaker. I`am never paying more then 400 euro`s tops for a phone again
Everyone moans about the price. No shet its expensive. Its got the latest and greatest hardware in
Same in computing, same in cars
I hate apple with a passion but they do make well put together phones. If this is anything like that of be happy to shell out
Hardly any android phones feel premium. Only one that comes close is the s7edge but that's just because of the screen (which is pretty pointless)
Jesus Christ
Even if you compared stuff like ram I guarantee the ram in the pixel is faster than anything else out all for about a month lol
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Everyone moans about the price. No shet its expensive. Its got the latest and greatest hardware in
Same in computing, same in cars
I hate apple with a passion but they do make well put together phones. If this is anything like that of be happy to shell out
Hardly any android phones feel premium. Only one that comes close is the s7edge but that's just because of the screen (which is pretty pointless)
Jesus Christ
Even if you compared stuff like ram I guarantee the ram in the pixel is faster than anything else out all for about a month lol
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Nexus was never about premium feel. It was nexus just like an iphone is iphone. It was for people who wanted more from their device, who liked to tinker it, play with it. In short having a nexus meant you own your device and at affordable price.
Now with newer, pricier and premium pixel, they may hit new customers who like premium devices, people who change phones faster than seasons change, but they lost their fan base, tinkerers, developers. Most of them are students, young part time workers.
I feel pixel is just an iphone made by google and i m hugely disappointed. It may offer a great experience for user but as an android enthusiast, I don't see it's worth of that much money.
I was really interested in replacing my Honor 6 within the next months, but honestly, with those prices, I think I'll either stick with it, or go buying the Honor 8....
Sorry Google, but this is just too overpriced to be a *good* phone.
Any recommendations for 5" pixel substitute? I need something unlocked but can't don't want to carry anything larger than 5.
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Sorry Google, but this is just too overpriced to be a *good* phone.
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This sentence doesn't make any sense. The price has nothing to do with whether or not it is a "good" phone.
Quite frankly, the more I think about it, the more comfortable I am with the increased pricing. Over the years the Nexus sections of XDA have become overly saturated with kids whose parents bought their ~$350 phones for them and then they flood the Nexus sub-forums expecting to be spoon-fed everything without trying to learn things themselves from the plethora of guides and helpful posts readily available to them. All while refusing to contribute anything worthwhile to the community. It's gotten so bad that spending time in the Nexus forums has me wondering why I even bother anymore. Many developers have expressed the same feelings.
I'm really hoping the increased pricing of the Pixel phones will help keep the kids away and allow the Pixel forums to remain clean and full of people who actually like to contribute. Similar to how it was back in the early Nexus days.
i was looking to bought a cheaper phone, i see the LeEco Le Pro 3 but has a lot of problems like the rom support,no 3.5 mm, the screen in corner areas don't respond, in some units the phone come with factory problems,the charger burn the type c connection but if you have luck can get a good unit and install good rom and have the best phone ever for 200$, i will buy the amazon usa version
my question is this a good phone or see another phone for 200$,and i also can buy chinese stuff
i use social media, somes heavy games, but i want a phone to last me a lot because i cant buy a expensive phone,thanks everyone
sorry for my bad english
Well it's a real gamble when you buy from Chinese wholesalers like most people on XDA. You don't know where they're getting their phones from, and if they're buying defective batches cheap, and selling them cheap. Those buying from LeEco US, China, and India (regions where LeEco has an official presence) seem to have a lower rate of encountering defects, but not by much. Phones sold through stores and official online retailers in these regions have official ROMs, not crappy vendor ROMs from wholesalers like Geekbuying and Banggood. You'll be much safer if you're buying from Amazon and the seller is Amazon.
Also, those issues have to do with ROMs, not necessarily the phones themselves. Don't flash a ROM or mess with the phone in any way unless you're willing to risk it. My mom's been using her Le2 heavily for a year now and she has yet to encounter hardware issues. The only thing she encounters is lag because of how bad eUI is.
Make sure you're getting the x720 if it's the Pro 3, because that's the one with custom ROM support. The x722 doesn't have anything. If you're afraid of hardware failure (I am too) you should probably just buy an old/used SD820 flagship for $200 USD from a reliable auction website. But even brand new SD820 phones can be had for around $200 these days, like the LG G5. If you don't mind crossing over, the iPhone SE is really cheap these days.
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Well it's a real gamble when you buy from Chinese wholesalers like most people on XDA. You don't know where they're getting their phones from, and if they're buying defective batches cheap, and selling them cheap. Those buying from LeEco US, China, and India (regions where LeEco has an official presence) seem to have a lower rate of encountering defects, but not by much. Phones sold through stores and official online retailers in these regions have official ROMs, not crappy vendor ROMs from wholesalers like Geekbuying and Banggood. You'll be much safer if you're buying from Amazon and the seller is Amazon.
Also, those issues have to do with ROMs, not necessarily the phones themselves. Don't flash a ROM or mess with the phone in any way unless you're willing to risk it. My mom's been using her Le2 heavily for a year now and she has yet to encounter hardware issues. The only thing she encounters is lag because of how bad eUI is.
Make sure you're getting the x720 if it's the Pro 3, because that's the one with custom ROM support. The x722 doesn't have anything. If you're afraid of hardware failure (I am too) you should probably just buy an old/used SD820 flagship for $200 USD from a reliable auction website. But even brand new SD820 phones can be had for around $200 these days, like the LG G5. If you don't mind crossing over, the iPhone SE is really cheap these days.
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Thanks you to take the time to answer my question,yes i'm really scare if i get a unit with issues because i don't have a lot of money to spend and maybe my mother will get angry with me, i thought to bought a used phone but which phone you recommend ? i use social media,some heavy games and i will love if have a big battery thanks again i really appreciate that
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Thanks you to take the time to answer my question,yes i'm really scare if i get a unit with issues because i don't have a lot of money to spend and maybe my mother will get angry with me, i thought to bought a used phone but which phone you recommend ? i use social media,some heavy games and i will love if have a big battery thanks again i really appreciate that
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.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N9541P6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A249FRVY0JGHJA&psc=1
this is the amazon usa version that i see, which version is it and has developed rom
Like I said, get a used flagship from Samsung/Apple/Motorola etc. Since you're in the states getting a cheap good phone is really easy. If I were in your shoes with a fist full of USD I'd probably sit on it till Black Friday and hunt for deals on slickdeals. Wait till December for phones to go on sale and you'll end up with something more reliable than an LeEco phone. But if you're desperate for a phone I guess you could get this one. You'll be getting a US warranty too, which is better than Banggood and the rest. But LeEco is a pretty much dead company now so don't expect much RMA support.
For the rest of us, we're not so lucky. We pay huge taxes on everything plus our currency isn't worth as much. ? So we are driven to buy cheap phones like the LeEco ones to avoid tax and because nothing else is available cheaply.
Honestly 4 years is a long time for a phone especially for one that's been released for a year. Realistically this phone is a good phone for someone who wants to pay a
little for a lot of hardware. But for a good experience you've got to be willing to work on the phone and change the software. Also without a removable battery the life of the phone is limited. My suggestion. - Buy used LG G5 on swappa. Can't beat $150 for a flagship with removable battery and Sdcard support - and a headphone jack.
3-4 years is too long time for a smart phone I think. Spent 2-300 dollars and use it for 1-2 years maybe you can look at Xiaomi phone they are reasonably priced and work well much better than LeEco.
3 to 4 years is too long for a smartphone??? Can you imagine if we said the same thing about computers? Android users must have unlimited money to spend on new phones because many Apple users I know keep their phones for at least 5 years. They're not as picky as I am, as I'm always in need of something capable of gaming well. The new iPhones solve that dilemma but they're waaay over budget and lack a headphone jack. But they're also more than capable of netting you 5+ years of use unless you heavily abuse your phones.
Ok Apple fanboi. We're talking android here. The sad fact is 4 years is a very long time for an android phone especially one with no support. Do I like my LE Pro 3? Yes? Why? Because I like playing around with ROMS. Short of a google branded phone this ones has been good for that. But for a person looking for a phone that just works? Sure buy an Apple at $700. Keep it for 4 years. For me I'll buy a $200 android phone ... beat it like a rented mule.. sell it for $125 and use the money to buy my next mule.
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Ok Apple fanboi. We're talking android here. The sad fact is 4 years is a very long time for an android phone especially one with no support. Do I like my LE Pro 3? Yes? Why? Because I like playing around with ROMS. Short of a google branded phone this ones has been good for that. But for a person looking for a phone that just works? Sure buy an Apple at $700. Keep it for 4 years. For me I'll buy a $200 android phone ... beat it like a rented mule.. sell it for $125 and use the money to buy my next mule.
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If I was an Apple fanboy I wouldn't be on XDA right now. You know that you can admit that Apple phones are good in terms of longevity while also being an Android fan, right? Or is your world so black and white that it's only one or the other for you?
And 4 years is not a long time and we shouldn't be settling on this. Not unless you enjoy wasting your money, like I said. Android users deserve stable phones and 4 years of updates or more. Even the top-of-the-line Google Pixel only gets 2 years of updates and that's really sad. Also, that $700 Apple phone retains quite a bit of its value down the road. You'll be able to resell the iPhone 6S for $500 in a year's time. The $700 Android phone? Nope. I see a lot of S7s selling for $200 on Swappa.
So pretty much don't buy a high-end Android phone at exuberant prices if you want to recoup most of your costs later. In that case, the LeEco is a good buy, but the state of its reliability is always up in the air.
My wife has exclusively used Iphones for years. As far as support Apple admittedly does a better job of providing software updates for the phone. However my wife's battery twice has given out on her Iphones and I ended up replacing with an after market battery. Far before the updates stopped.
I am in agreement that it's sad that Android phones don't get much beyond 2 years of support and many not even that much. The hardware often is just fine it's the software that lags behind.
So I guess I'm in agreement with you.
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If I was an Apple fanboy I wouldn't be on XDA right now. You know that you can admit that Apple phones are good in terms of longevity while also being an Android fan, right? Or is your world so black and white that it's only one or the other for you?
And 4 years is not a long time and we shouldn't be settling on this. Not unless you enjoy wasting your money, like I said. Android users deserve stable phones and 4 years of updates or more. Even the top-of-the-line Google Pixel only gets 2 years of updates and that's really sad. Also, that $700 Apple phone retains quite a bit of its value down the road. You'll be able to resell the iPhone 6S for $500 in a year's time. The $700 Android phone? Nope. I see a lot of S7s selling for $200 on Swappa.
So pretty much don't buy a high-end Android phone at exuberant prices if you want to recoup most of your costs later. In that case, the LeEco is a good buy, but the state of its reliability is always up in the air.
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My wife has exclusively used Iphones for years. As far as support Apple admittedly does a better job of providing software updates for the phone. However my wife's battery twice has given out on her Iphones and I ended up replacing with an after market battery. Far before the updates stopped.
I am in agreement that it's sad that Android phones don't get much beyond 2 years of support and many not even that much. The hardware often is just fine it's the software that lags behind.
So I guess I'm in agreement with you.
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I have a friend at work that's still using his HTC M7 (from 2013 $590) the battery is not good but the phone still functions
I would never consider keeping any phone over 2 years because the resale value drops like a rock after just 16 to 18 months
I paid $279 for my LeEco pro 3 just 6 months ago and it's been a really reliable device with the the Turbo rom on it. But I don't see me keeping it another 6 months ... I have already been considering a LG V20 ($299) or a Umidigi S2 with the 6" screen and 5100mh battery for $179.
Their a allot of nice phones in the $200 to 350 range and if you invest in a decent one and resale it every 6 to 8 months you don't face much of a loss. If I sold the Le Pro 3 today for $175 I would only have paid $16 a month to use it. I feel that's a fair price for using a nice phone.
If you consider a phone is only worth $4 a month to you ($200 / 48 months) I guess the lepro3 would be OK
I was trying to sell one pixel 2 xl on swappa and the prices are going crazy low. How are all these people selling new 128 GB for just $700ish range ? The phone isn't really that old yet.
Verizon's running a $300 off on it.
I'm noticing the same thing. I considered selling my 2 XL and picking up a OnePlus 5T. When I took a look at pricing on SWAPPA I was very surprised to see the current prices people are selling the phone for. Previously, the Nexus/Pixel line-up held their value much better than what I'm seeing with the current 2 XL. It's sad but I think it can be chalked up to all the bad publicity this phone keeps receiving. Talk of these issues is seemingly more widespread than I thought.
For instance, on Christmas day a family member was checking out my phone and even though he is not a tech guy by any means, even he brought up the screen burn-in issues as well as the speaker buzzing noise issues. It threw me off, to be honest. Especially considering that this is a guy who never researches phones and has stuck with the Galaxy phone line-up simply because I recommended it to him like 3 years ago.
There is a reason why both Google and the carriers have already dropped the price. It sucks and it's directly affecting resale value.
On the plus side, I've experienced no issues with my device and it's the best phone I've ever owned. So this is just a good nudge for me to hold onto it and enjoy it longer, rather than making a jump to something else and inevitably regretting it.
Add to this, the starting prices were up there with the iPhone X and Samsung Note 8! Previously Nexus phones were a good bit cheaper than the highest premium phones...this is why they were able to hold value longer.
True. Personally, I don't consider Verizon to be a viable option because it is locked down. It equates to a regular Samsung phone at this point that is locked, but that is not what everyone thinks.
What really gets me is the price. Google did not do any price drops, they just did the holiday specials which was like 50 or 75 bucks.
But on swappa some people are selling the 128 for about 700 bucks. I don't know how they're getting the phones so cheap to sell them for that price. I hope the phone doesn't end up being like the essential phone what the pricing
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True. Personally, I don't consider Verizon to be a viable option because it is locked down. It equates to a regular Samsung phone at this point that is locked, but that is not what everyone thinks.
What really gets me is the price. Google did not do any price drops, they just did the holiday specials which was like 50 or 75 bucks.
But on swappa some people are selling the 128 for about 700 bucks. I don't know how they're getting the phones so cheap to sell them for that price. I hope the phone doesn't end up being like the essential phone what the pricing
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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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True. I am hoping it doesn't plunge down..I just think the google one should and would hold the price against the Verizon one. It's like in the old days, Verizon and att phones had lower prices used than the T-Mobile ones because of the unlocked bl stuff.
Maybe I am just mad that since the pixel XL last year held up the price value well for a few months and didn't really drop dramatically except when the pixel 2 s were announced.
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True. I am hoping it doesn't plunge down..I just think the google one should and would hold the price against the Verizon one. It's like in the old days, Verizon and att phones had lower prices used than the T-Mobile ones because of the unlocked bl stuff.
Maybe I am just mad that since the pixel XL last year held up the price value well for a few months and didn't really drop dramatically except when the pixel 2 s were announced.
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As for last year you really can't compare, unfortunately. Google didn't give 5 cents off the Pixel or the XL even on black Friday. Verizon had one day, and that was BF, that they gave a tremendous deal of $10 / month and $15 for the XL for 24 months. That was it! Eventually they had a lame trade in deal but nothing from Google. This year is way different. There is really no reason to be spending more than 4 or 5 hundred for any of the devices with trade in at Google and VZW. I mean I believe that VZW even has a $300 off with no trade in! But then you're locked into them for 2 years and no bl unlock. So I believe that the price will not drop past the 6 or 7 number for some time. But I've been wrong once or twice..
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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
Also the pixel has $300+ off but I got $425 off my note 8 and had it the day it was released thanks to a preorder! I think I was like $570 ish for the note 8 out the door and shipped so the $300 off for the pixel seems quite small now! Let's see what it is in 6 months glad I sent my first few pixels back and got the newer $75 off savings!
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Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
Also the pixel has $300+ off but I got $425 off my note 8 and had it the day it was released thanks to a preorder! I think I was like $570 ish for the note 8 out the door and shipped so the $300 off for the pixel seems quite small now! Let's see what it is in 6 months glad I sent my first few pixels back and got the newer $75 off savings!
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I've gotta agree with this. I was pleasantly surprised with the Touchwiz UI on my Galaxy S8. It never stuttered or lagged and was just as fast as my previous Pixel XL and current Pixel 2 XL. Touchwiz really has come a long way. The same cannot be said for the LG V30, however. LG's skin on that phone is absolutely horrible. It lags/stutters/hangs constantly and no matter how many LG apps you disable, it doesn't fix it.
If LG would have just refrained from touching the OS on that phone and left it with stock Android, I never would have bought my 2 XL to begin with. Such a sad let down. The V30 is just collecting dust on my office shelf. I need to take it back to T-Mobile but I keep forgetting about it.
oneandroidnut said:
Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
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I'd agree with this as well. My last Samsung device was the GS7 Edge and I was quite impressed. The performance was great and while not quite as fluid as the Pixel, was very consistent and stable, never slowing down over time. I think Samsung's kitchen sink approach from years past has paid off in the sense that the software additions they've kept are generally pretty useful and thoughtful additions not available in the pure Android experience.
sn0warmy said:
I've gotta agree with this. I was pleasantly surprised with the Touchwiz UI on my Galaxy S8. It never stuttered or lagged and was just as fast as my previous Pixel XL and current Pixel 2 XL. Touchwiz really has come a long way. The same cannot be said for the LG V30, however. LG's skin on that phone is absolutely horrible. It lags/stutters/hangs constantly and no matter how many LG apps you disable, it doesn't fix it.
If LG would have just refrained from touching the OS on that phone and left it with stock Android, I never would have bought my 2 XL to begin with. Such a sad let down. The V30 is just collecting dust on my office shelf. I need to take it back to T-Mobile but I keep forgetting about it.
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Oh man the LG phone software dept is need of a revamp. It has been awful! I had a G4, G5, & G6 and literally could only use for a few days it was so bad!
I agree they have good hardware but their software is just plain awful! Send the v30 to me I'll test on Verizon!!
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I'd agree with this as well. My last Samsung device was the GS7 Edge and I was quite impressed. The performance was great and while not quite as fluid as the Pixel, was very consistent and stable, never slowing down over time. I think Samsung's kitchen sink approach from years past has paid off in the sense that the software additions they've kept are generally pretty useful and thoughtful additions not available in the pure Android experience.
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Yeah you should try the s8 or note 8. They are extremely fluid compared to the pixel not quite as fluid but very very close. Also the extra ram in note is helpful especially with the kitchen sink approach
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oneandroidnut said:
I agree they have good hardware but their software is just plain awful! Send the v30 to me I'll test on Verizon!!
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I would but I've got it on my JUMP-On Demand program so I need to keep it to trade in on something else, at some point. I'm considering trading it in for the iPhone X to mess with for a while.
sn0warmy said:
I would but I've got it on my JUMP-On Demand program so I need to keep it to trade in on something else, at some point. I'm considering trading it in for the iPhone X to mess with for a while.
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Man I wouldn't. The Iphone X is so small and weird UI imo the swipe thing is odd, the notch is odd, no fingerprint is odd and then small screen. Just get note 8 and be done!
oneandroidnut said:
Man I wouldn't. The Iphone X is so small and weird UI imo the swipe thing is odd, the notch is odd, no fingerprint is odd and then small screen. Just get note 8 and be done!
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Eh, I'd prefer to turn the V30 in for nothing in return but then I'd lose my JUMP On-Demand. So I'll probably just trade the V30 in on a super cheap $5/month phone to have as a back-up, just in case.
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Eh, I'd prefer to turn the V30 in for nothing in return but then I'd lose my JUMP On-Demand. So I'll probably just trade the V30 in on a super cheap $5/month phone to have as a back-up, just in case.
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Why are you against the note? Lol
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oneandroidnut said:
Why are you against the note? Lol
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Not against the note. I've just decided to hold on to the 2 XL because it's been great. I just need a cheap phone to keep my JUMP On-Demand program with TMobile. No sense in paying $30/month for the note to just throw it in a drawer.
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Not against the note. I've just decided to hold on to the 2 XL because it's been great. I just need a cheap phone to keep my JUMP On-Demand program with TMobile. No sense in paying $30/month for the note to just throw it in a drawer.
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I see. I think the note & pixel combo is going to be hard to beat. That's what I'm going to be switching between
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oneandroidnut said:
I see. I think the note & pixel combo is going to be hard to beat. That's what I'm going to be switching between
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If I traveled more for work I'd probably get the note 8 to have the stylus, allowing me to be more productive with my phone on the go.
It's definitely something I may start considering, actually.
sn0warmy said:
If I traveled more for work I'd probably get the note 8 to have the stylus, allowing me to be more productive with my phone on the go.
It's definitely something I may start considering, actually.
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I mean I don't travel on the road but I love almost everything about phone except just slightly too tall and fingerprint sensor placement. I use pen to keep screen clean if hands are dirty etc
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