Alternative to gapps - Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers

I would like to know which are the best alternatives to the gapps, and I would sincerely appreciate it a lot.

Only real alternative to gapps I am aware of is microG. https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-microg-gmscore-floss-play-services-t3217616

Many thanks, but some time ago I heard about a microsoft apps I was wondering if they still exist, since I searched and did not find them

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Reviving an old Nexus 7 2012 (Grouper)

Hello all!
I have been using my Nexus 7 (2012 Grouper) almost consistently ever since I bought it in early 2014. As with other users, I tried updating to Lollipop and Marshmallow, found them unusable slow, and rolled back to 4.4.4. I've been using 4.4.4 ever since but now with the core Google apps and play services getting heavier even 4.4.4 is becoming sluggish. I'm considering switching to a custom ROM such as Cyanogenmod, but to be honest I'm a little overwhelmed by all the content here on the XDA forums. Further complicating matters is the fact that apparently Cyanogenmod is no more - all links to Wiki and files are all dead.
So I guess my question is, whats a good, stable, light ROM available today that can will work for the Nexus7? I;m really only interested in using Chrome, and PDF readers on WiFi - I would not really care for NFC or even the camera.
Second, I have used ADB to lock / unlock bootloader and flash recovery images (from Google) before. What would be a good starting point to start reading about how to install TWRP (which most custom ROMs seem to require), enabling root, etc?
I recommend LineageOS 14.1 by @aaopt. Runs really smooth without gapps. I use yalp store to download the few apps I want on it.
Charles IV said:
I recommend LineageOS 14.1 by @aaopt. Runs really smooth without gapps. I use yalp store to download the few apps I want on it.
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Thanks @Charles IV! Especially for Yalp Store. I was concerned that the new Google Play Services would grind any OS into the ground.
Unfortunately I'm a noob at flashing custom ROMS. What is a good place to start reading about the process? I'm currently looking at the instructions for CyanogenMod but a lot of the links are either broken or incomplete now.
kab53t said:
Thanks @Charles IV! Especially for Yalp Store. I was concerned that the new Google Play Services would grind any OS into the ground.
Unfortunately I'm a noob at flashing custom ROMS. What is a good place to start reading about the process? I'm currently looking at the instructions for CyanogenMod but a lot of the links are either broken or incomplete now.
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look at the lineage wiki for any device, they are mostly the same, but sometimes different, so look at a nexus devices guide.
If you want ota updates as well, I've got a server running at download.charles-iv.uk, but beware that this is run from my pc so there might be a bit of downtime.
If you're not bothered, head over here once you're set up with twrp and all. Just beware @aaopt probably has real life stuff so updates won't be regular.
I put Unofficial Slimkat 9.2 on my son's grouper and he loves it. I has gapps included. Great for minecraft I'm told
I have nAOSP 7.1.1 on mine. If you want Play Services without lag, just download and flash the OpenGapps Pico zip onto your device, like I did. Still lags a little bit, but not as bad as Lollipop.

Best stable ROM?

Hi all,
Sorry, I never know whether I should post this kind of thing in the General section or Troubleshooting...
I'm looking for up-to-date advice. What, in your opinion, is the most stable and smooth custom rom available. I'm looking for something as recent as possible, preferably Nougat +, but could be MM if necessary.
The phone is going to be used by my mother-in-law so doesn't need any fancy customization, just reliability and performance.
Thanks!! :good:
If you want something really stable with excellent camera go for munjenis nougat rom
colaigor said:
If you want something really stable with excellent camera go for munjenis nougat rom
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Thanks for that. I presume I can find that rom on xda?
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Is it this Lineage rom?:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/development/rom-t3657384
Yup thats it
I used munjenis los 14.1 and switched to AICP 13.1 Oreo. It has up to date patches and is in my opinion currently the best up to date rom. Camera is also fine for me.
hi all! i tried oreo yesterday and all of google (esp. play store & play services) didn't work. tried older versions via apk but no success. without play store makes no sense. anyone an idea why it works for jho55 but not for me (d5503)? and jho55, why did you switch; only for newer version or other reasons? could you give me d/l link to the exact aicp rom u used? at aicp rom it says that there is an issue with oreo on z1c and video recording; does that work on your device? thx&greets, volkbaad
EDIT: found out myself now that i need gapps, too in order to take benefit of google. i work a lot on pc's but up to now not on android, esp. custom roms. it's a bit confusing at first sight; but i'm learning...
It is very important that you follow the instructions posted in the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/so...development/rom-aicp-13-1-o8-1-amami-t3755554
I am using the rom because I want to have the newest security updates, a fresh android, root access(adblock, firewall). Video recording is working for me.
jho55 said:
It is very important that you follow the instructions posted in the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/so...development/rom-aicp-13-1-o8-1-amami-t3755554
I am using the rom because I want to have the newest security updates, a fresh android, root access(adblock, firewall). Video recording is working for me.
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IT WORKS!!!
At first try I used GApps "super" (14.5.81; 900 MB) and guess I didn't clear all cache and data. This obviously ended up in a mess with old Google Play files and new OS. Second time I cleared system, data, cache and dalvik cache before flashing new ROM, rebooted into normal OS and back into (TWRP) recovery before I flashed GApps "micro" (14.8.xx; 300 MB). "Super" and "mini" had some apps which were unfunctional; and if included in package you cannot uninstall and manually reinstall them, so smaller GApps version is safer.
This time the new install became functional w/o any problem. There was even no need to search and installe older version of GApps, as reported elsewhere.
Maybe this is helpful for other Z1C owners. In the thread mentioned above seemingly not every necessary detail is mentioned.
I think the instructions are pretty straight forward from there it says "How to flash:".
I'm not decided yet. For me it's either AICP 13.1 (oreo) or 115ek's LineageOS 15.1 (Oreo). Both are very stable and suitable for every day useage. And they are maintained in regards to security updates
Pro AICP: some really nice features and add-ons (e.g. theming, nice recent apps solutions, extended phone settings and customizations etc.). Together with some optimzing apps (LSpeed, SysConfigPatcher) battery consumption is ok
Pro LOS 15.1: in my opinion a tad faster and and more efficient in reagrds to battery consumption; rather reduced, but I kind of like that
munjeni's LOS version is great (had that running for over a year) but a bit aged now
I've had LOS 14.1 installed for a while and it seems pretty good, however it seems to have some significant bugs. The big one is that Google Duo doesn't work properly- the mic doesn't work so calls are pointless. Dues anyone else have this problem? Or can anyone give me a ROM where Duo definitely works?
Mic volume in general is pretty quiet.
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Various questions regarding rooting

I just bought an S5E, and having owned two previous Samsung devices, I expected a fair amount of bloat, but not nearly the amount I discovered. It makes my previous two Samsungs look downright slender. Particularly loathsome, in my view, is the way SS has hijacked Find My Mobile and Google Messages, the latter of which, as a Google Fi customer, I have to use for SMS.
Hence, I am going to root, and cleanse this otherwise delightful device with the fire of 1000 suns. I have rooted Android devices before, but it's been a while, and my memory hasn't improved with age, so I have several questions, some about rooting in general, and some specific to this device. I should add that, while I am not opposed to performance gains and newer versions of Android and suchlike, my only pressing concern is to de-Samsungize the bejeebers out of this thing. Other than that, something like a stock version of Android and an otherwise low-maintenance tablet will make me very happy. So, here goes:
I have the PewPewk method bookmarked, and believe I have one or two others using various combinations of ADB and Magisk and suchlike bookmarked. I imagine I can handle them, but they look complicated. Are any of the apparently simpler approaches found here effective, sufficient to achieve my goals, and unlikely to brick me?
What are the advantages of Custom Android Recoveries relative to the stock Android, and if they add much in the way of complications, can I live without them?
Do I need a custom ROM, and more specifically, do I need one to give me non-Samsungized versions of Find My Mobile and Google Messages? At a minimum, I need the garden-variety version of Google Messages so I can text like a normal person, not a Samsung zombie.
Again, I don't really need tweaks for performance or new versions of Android, but I do need to get bug fixes and security patches with a minimum of fuss. How do I find that minimal sweet spot?
If the answers to one or more of these question are that yes, I need a custom recovery and/or ROM - I suspect this will be the case - then can anyone recommend good candidates that will get me the outcomes I'm looking for without perplexing me too greatly and making me want to cuss?
Can anyone identify the questions which I should be asking, but which didn't occur to me, and then pose them and answer them?
I'm confident that I'm in the right forum to get the answers I need, so all advice will be greatly appreciated.
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I just bought an S5E, and having owned two previous Samsung devices, I expected a fair amount of bloat, but not nearly the amount I discovered. It makes my previous two Samsungs look downright slender. Particularly loathsome, in my view, is the way SS has hijacked Find My Mobile and Google Messages, the latter of which, as a Google Fi customer, I have to use for SMS.
Hence, I am going to root, and cleanse this otherwise delightful device with the fire of 1000 suns. I have rooted Android devices before, but it's been a while, and my memory hasn't improved with age, so I have several questions, some about rooting in general, and some specific to this device. I should add that, while I am not opposed to performance gains and newer versions of Android and suchlike, my only pressing concern is to de-Samsungize the bejeebers out of this thing. Other than that, something like a stock version of Android and an otherwise low-maintenance tablet will make me very happy. So, here goes:
I have the PewPewk method bookmarked, and believe I have one or two others using various combinations of ADB and Magisk and suchlike bookmarked. I imagine I can handle them, but they look complicated. Are any of the apparently simpler approaches found here effective, sufficient to achieve my goals, and unlikely to brick me?
What are the advantages of Custom Android Recoveries relative to the stock Android, and if they add much in the way of complications, can I live without them?
Do I need a custom ROM, and more specifically, do I need one to give me non-Samsungized versions of Find My Mobile and Google Messages? At a minimum, I need the garden-variety version of Google Messages so I can text like a normal person, not a Samsung zombie.
Again, I don't really need tweaks for performance or new versions of Android, but I do need to get bug fixes and security patches with a minimum of fuss. How do I find that minimal sweet spot?
If the answers to one or more of these question are that yes, I need a custom recovery and/or ROM - I suspect this will be the case - then can anyone recommend good candidates that will get me the outcomes I'm looking for without perplexing me too greatly and making me want to cuss?
Can anyone identify the questions which I should be asking, but which didn't occur to me, and then pose them and answer them?
I'm confident that I'm in the right forum to get the answers I need, so all advice will be greatly appreciated.
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Hello there
Your questions are really deep, maybe that is why no answers so far
I'm not an expert at all, so I can't give you comprehensive answers. But I rooted Tab S5e successfully (on stock ROM) and I've read a lot about modifying it, so I can share just few hints.
I wouldn't bother of any other rooting method than Magisk. However, this tab isn't as easy to root as most of the other devices... By far the best and comprehensive guide to root the stock ROM is here:
Galaxy Tab S5e (SM-T720) - Root Instructions (Release 1.0) | XDA Developers Forums (xda-developers.com)
If you follow it closely, you shouldn't have problems. I did it and can confirm it's working fine.
I haven't used custom ROM on this device, but there are some available, especially LineageOS from the recognized developer and one of the LineageOS team member. You can take a look on those threads:
[ROM][OFFICIAL][gts4lvwifi][10] LineageOS 17.1 | XDA Developers Forums (xda-developers.com)
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][gts4lvwifi][11] LineageOS 18.1 | XDA Developers Forums (xda-developers.com)
In order to flash custom ROM you need custom recovery. There is TWRP available:
Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e WiFi (twrp.me)
Again, I did not try to flash it, I've heard it's tricky, so you need to dig dipper inside those threads and articles.
Alternatively, there is a method to debloat stock ROM without root. It is described in this thread:
[Guide] Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e Debloat Without Root-Info | XDA Developers Forums (xda-developers.com)
Hope it helps!
Thank you for your input. By the time you offered it, I had plunged ahead with the rooting method you suggested. Overall, it went well, but I'm having a few issues with the tablet since getting Lineage 17.1 installed.
I have made a new post requesting help with those issues, which can be found here. If you can offer any advice thereupon, I would be greatly appreciative, and if not, thank you for your efforts above.

Getting a Functional Degoogled 8 Pro w/Notifications

Hey guys, I've tried searching around, but I haven't really found what I'm looking for. I finally have a degoogled LineageOS 18 build up. Took me a while but I did it. But now I can't find the same level of tutorial support for getting microg stuff up and running. Notifications are a must for me, so I didn't know if anyone here knew of any good tutorials to get it up and running? Camera also is a thing, but I haven't really tried looking at that yet. I'm going to revert to stock and figure these things out before fully committing. Any help would be great
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Hey guys, I've tried searching around, but I haven't really found what I'm looking for. I finally have a degoogled LineageOS 18 build up. Took me a while but I did it. But now I can't find the same level of tutorial support for getting microg stuff up and running. Notifications are a must for me, so I didn't know if anyone here knew of any good tutorials to get it up and running? Camera also is a thing, but I haven't really tried looking at that yet. I'm going to revert to stock and figure these things out before fully committing. Any help would be great
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Hydrogen OS is Google free and a stock rom with full functionality
You could try the custom ROMs and leave out Google If you don't want to have those services.
In regards to OOS you could install xXx and then remove the Google software using the profile.
I know also there is a Microg installer revived magisk module available, but I haven't got to personally test it on OnePlus 8 Pro. I'd sure be interested if this would work okay as an alternative on our device. Thanks

Seeking English ROM with gApps for Huawei DRA-AL00 (Y5 2018/Enjoy 8e Youth)

I have a Huawei DRA-AL00 (either called the Y5 2018 or Enjoy 8e Youth depending on which source you believe) currently running Android 8.1 (device details from Droid Info attached).
I am seeking an English language ROM with gApps (or the option to add it). I have already searched the forums and found this thread, however, the ROMs listed seem to just be copies of the stock ROM (or, at least, I can't find any details about them except that they're Android 8.1) I'm worried they'll have the same issues as the factory reset OS that I've already tried. I also searched google generally and found a lot of ROMs for other Huawei phones but none that looked promising for this one... Neither LineageOS nor ArrowOS seem to have an option for this phone. I also don't see a TWRP version that's been specifically tested for this phone, but I'm thinking of trying the one that's recommended for the Y5 2017 or the Enjoy 8 Plus. Of course, that's only relevant if I can find a custom ROM worth using. I'm willing to risk bricking this phone by using a TWRP and ROM that are intended for a different but similar phone, but I'd rather do so with input from someone who's more knowledgeable about phone OSs than me . I'll post the results of any ROMs I try here so others with this phone can have clearer info on what works with it.
Thanks for your help!!
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Additional info below, not necessary to answer the original question .
For context, I'm a complete newb to flashing custom ROMs on phones. That said, I follow directions just fine and have spent most of today watching and reading tutorials for other Huawei phones (can't find one for this phone specifically...). I've also already tried several different fixes to get this phone functional without replacing the OS, but each new fix keeps raising a new issue or only partially resolving the original one. Hence reverting to the solution that's always served me well on laptops and desktops, replacing the OS.
I have already:
- Factory reset the phone.
- Set the system language to English (this succeeded in getting most of the day-to-day interface to show up in English, but about half of the pop-up messages and the contents of the in-built app store/browser/etc are all still in Chinese...).
- Replaced the keyboard app as it was also still an odd mix of English and Chinese which made typing pretty difficult...
- Tried four different methods to install gPlay on a Huawei phone all of which appeared to be working during install but result in a gPlay app that won't open.
- Tried installing the apps that I need without going through the Play store, however, anything affiliated with google (eg gmail, gmaps) refuses to work. I updated Google Play Services and Google Services Framework APKs to the most recent versions I could find that are Android 8.1 compatible but that didn't fix the issue.
- Disabled as much of the bloatware as I can.
If I can't find a decent ROM for this phone, I'll keep trying to work around its issues using third party apps. However, I'm starting to lose hope in reaching a truly functional solution with the current OS. It'd be sad to give up on this project since it's a quite nice little phone for the very basic functions I need - decent speed and truly epic battery life (nearly a week if I'm not using it much!). At the end of the day though, it only cost me $88 in the first place, so I'd rather risk bricking it by flashing an incompatible ROM than leave it to gather dust in the back of a drawer somewhere .
Hey I have a Huawei DRA-AL00 with English ROM . It comes with Gapps and stuffs but my problem is getting Twrp for it. Can I ask how you got yours?

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