[OOS]Ota or Full zip? Why? - OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers

What is your preference, ota or full zip? Why?

Full zips only if you're rooted.

Exactly. Full zip and nothing to worry about but if rooted, you must use full zip. Then flash Magisk before you reboot after installing the Full OTA and you will keep TWRP.

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Can I flash OTA zip over a unlocked and rooted stock firmware?

I know that I can't get OTA normally if I have any system level modifications like root or xposed installed.
However, I came across this thread which lists both, the stock firmware images and individual OTA update zips.
With the zip for OTA in hand, will flashing them on a rooted stock device cause problems?
You can install the factory images but it will be a clean install. You will have to root the phone after. You can learn how to flash those images here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
No. You can't flash an OTA if you're modified. You must flash the factory images.
Thanks! Guess I have to download the full thing everytime.
Thanks!

Updating oxygen os without losing TWRP possible ?

Hello,
i am using oxygen os 3.1 with TWRP recovery. No root no modifications other than TWRP.
Is it possible to update without factory reset to the latest oxygen os without losing my custom recovery TWRP?
I read about signed flash able zips - but i am not sure on how to proceed.
Guidance is appreciated !
Thank You
Device is Oneplus two 64gb.
german_oneplus_two said:
Hello,
i am using oxygen os 3.1 with TWRP recovery. No root no modifications other than TWRP.
Is it possible to update without factory reset to the latest oxygen os without losing my custom recovery TWRP?
I read about signed flash able zips - but i am not sure on how to proceed.
Guidance is appreciated !
Thank You
Device is Oneplus two 64gb.
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You want to upgrade to latest 3.5.5 ? You'll have to wait until signed flashable zip for 3.5.5 is made. For now 3.1.0 is the latest flashable zip.
Check this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/general/rom-mirrors-official-oxygen-os-roms-ota-t3209863
Thank you,
so i will wait for the full signed flashable zip.
still - my questions remain - i do not completely understand this :
Note: Since OTA incremental update zips will fail on rooted devices or devices with modifications to system files, it's not possible to use these to update without reverting back to completely stock, unrooted first.
To update you must either wait for the new, full, signed flashable zip to appear (usually a few weeks after the OTA update) or use the following workaround:
Boot into TWRP recovery
Flash the latest full signed flashable zip
Flash the new OTA incremental update zip
Flash the SuperSU zip
Reboot
Is it possible with the full signed flashable zip to keep twrp and my settings ?
Thank You
german_oneplus_two said:
Thank you,
so i will wait for the full signed flashable zip.
still - my questions remain - i do not completely understand this :
Note: Since OTA incremental update zips will fail on rooted devices or devices with modifications to system files, it's not possible to use these to update without reverting back to completely stock, unrooted first.
To update you must either wait for the new, full, signed flashable zip to appear (usually a few weeks after the OTA update) or use the following workaround:
Boot into TWRP recovery
Flash the latest full signed flashable zip
Flash the new OTA incremental update zip
Flash the SuperSU zip
Reboot
Is it possible with the full signed flashable zip to keep twrp and my settings ?
Thank You
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As it says you can't use incremental update zips if you're rooted or has a modified system. You can either Flash the latest full signed flashable zip & then Flash the new OTA incremental update zip (without rooting) OR just wait for the Full signed flashable zip & then flash it(whether you're rooted or not). As for now neither "Incremental" nor "full" signed zip exists for 3.5.5.
And Yes. You won't lose TWRP.
To understand more about "Incremental" & "Full" update packages, read this -> https://source.android.com/devices/tech/ota/tools.html
you can flash full rom zip and without restarting flash twrp image in twrp itself, its kinda tricky but it works
3.5.5 Full Signed Flashable Zip's now available. Check the thread I sent before.
german_oneplus_two said:
Hello,
i am using oxygen os 3.1 with TWRP recovery. No root no modifications other than TWRP.
Is it possible to update without factory reset to the latest oxygen os without losing my custom recovery TWRP?
I read about signed flash able zips - but i am not sure on how to proceed.
Guidance is appreciated !
Thank You
Device is Oneplus two 64gb.
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I was on 3.1.0 with Hybrid recovery and root before the OTA for 3.5.5 came through. It installed itself via the ota (1.2gb) and when it was done I was back on default recovery and no root...which i fixed in few minutes..So I am now on the latest OS 3.5.5 with Hybrid Recovery and Root..everything is perfect! No network drops so far e.t.c
Edit: I didn't have to unroot for the OTA to work..It just did. Also didn't lost any data. all apps +data still intact
Thank You B!Gguy.
Signed flashable worked flawless

How to update once rooted?

I plan to get my OP5 today, and will update it before I root it, but I'm curious about future updates. Is my understanding correct that the OTA will fail, and the only way to upgrade is by waiting for the full stock ROMs to be posted here to flash in TWRP? From the previous phones, how long of a delay is there typically between an OTA and when we can flash it via TWRP? Does the full ROM that you flash also include the modem/radio files, or does that need to be flashed separately?
If you are stock and not rooted: updates come OTA as incremental updates. Small filesizes.
If you are stock and rooted: updates come OTA as FULL zips. Full ROM size. 4.5.2 for me was around 1.6GB in size.
Both will come through the official OTA mechanism. When the device reboots and installs, it runs on TWRP automatically without any manual user intervention.
tl;dr: Will still be OTA, but bigger filesizes. You will have to re-root (re flash SuperSU, Magisk, whatever)...
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If you are stock and not rooted: updates come OTA as incremental updates. Small filesizes.
If you are stock and rooted: updates come OTA as FULL zips. Full ROM size. 4.5.2 for me was around 1.6GB in size.
Both will come through the official OTA mechanism. When the device reboots and installs, it runs on TWRP automatically without any manual user intervention.
tl;dr: Will still be OTA, but bigger filesizes. You will have to re-root (re flash SuperSU, Magisk, whatever)...
I'm stock and rooted, the OTA came as a 36MB update.
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I just rooted and wanted to update with OTA to 4.5.2, it rebooted into twrp and did something for a second and went back to the normal menu. I then rebooted and it told me that the update did not apply. I just flashed the 1.4 GB OTA and rooted over again, for the next update, do i have to wipe before i install the new OTA manually or can i just flash the never big version over without having to wipe it?
Do I have to flash TWRP for the OTAs to work once rooted? Or will they still install with stock recovery?
I rooted with "fastboot boot TWRP.img" instead of actually flashing TWRP to the system...
1. make backup
2. save it on your computer
3. flash latest TWRP - reset back to recovery
4. flash OOS 4.5.2 Full Rom Zip and SuperSU or Magisk
5. Wipe Dalvik & Cache
6. make new backup if everything works fine, so you have it just in case
geoff5093 said:
I plan to get my OP5 today, and will update it before I root it, but I'm curious about future updates. Is my understanding correct that the OTA will fail, and the only way to upgrade is by waiting for the full stock ROMs to be posted here to flash in TWRP? From the previous phones, how long of a delay is there typically between an OTA and when we can flash it via TWRP? Does the full ROM that you flash also include the modem/radio files, or does that need to be flashed separately?
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If you are rooted, the phone automatically chooses to download the full OTA zip.
I want to root the phone and unlock bootloader. But firstly, i want to make backup all the settings/applications etc. How can i do that? I am full stock now
You can try Helium backup by clockworkmod. It is supposed to be basically a more friendly interface to `adb backup`.
For the record I couldn't get it to restore properly when I rooted my Shield TV, but I was probably doing something wrong.
I plan on rooting about to do it now. When another OTA update come along from above says I will get the full download but it will not erase any data or setting, right? Will be just full update but all will be intact?
parcou said:
I plan on rooting about to do it now. When another OTA update come along from above says I will get the full download but it will not erase any data or setting, right? Will be just full update but all will be intact?
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As part of rooting, you will need to unlock your bootloader, which will wipe all data on the device. This is a one time thing.
After that, when you get OTAs, your data, apps, etc., will be intact, but it will overwrite several system partitions (that's why it's the larger download). So you will need to reinstall TWRP or whatever recovery, and reflash your root zip every time an OTA comes along.
If you have the space, it doesn't hurt to make a TWRP backup before installing the OTA.
Hope that all makes sense!

How to flash inremental OTA's on rooted devices with TWRP recovery?

Title says all. I remember to flash modified signed incremental OTA's on my OPOne. However I can't seemed to find any for the OP5. Hany help with this?
Thanks!
Just flash full zip if rooted, and then SuperSU or magisk right after then reboot
You have to download the full zip each time an OTA is released which clocks in at around 1.5GB. You can download the full zip from this thread, wipe dalvik/cache, flash full zip and then flash root if you want so. You're probably going to have to flash TWRP afterwards if you're not rooting as the zips tend to restore the original recovery.
Thanks for the reply guys. worked perfectly.

can I flash ota update in twrp?

I received ota update notification. I downloaded the zip, it is npn25-37, currently my phone is on npn25-33. I have magisk root and twrp. I wonder if I can flash the ota update zip in twrp? Thanks
xdataibai said:
I received ota update notification. I downloaded the zip, it is npn25-37, currently my phone is on npn25-33. I have magisk root and twrp. I wonder if I can flash the ota update zip in twrp? Thanks
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It will not work, OTAs require the stock recovery. Since you hace TWRP there is also a chance that it might have mounted your system before, so your system image isn't vanilla anymore and the OTA will fail to apply. First try flashing stock recovery from here (search for the version you currently have, which is -33) https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/firmwares-moto-g5-plus-t3593160 and then apply the ota. Since the firmware you're on is quite outdated, you'll probably have a couple more OTAs on the way.
Now if that doesn't work, you'll need to back up everything you have (apps and data) and flash system, oem and recovery, and then apply the ota updates, then restore your data.

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