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Is it possible to "un-root" a phone without having to flash firmware? For example I'd like to use Samsung Pay which won't work because of a root check BUT would like to keep the debloated and optimized U ROM along with the non-provisioned WIFI-tethering, VVM, etc. that I originally rooted for. So is this possible? I understand that I will still be on the eng. boot kernel but that's fine.
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Is it possible to "un-root" a phone without having to flash firmware? For example I'd like to use Samsung Pay which won't work because of a root check BUT would like to keep the debloated and optimized U ROM along with the non-provisioned WIFI-tethering, VVM, etc. that I originally rooted for. So is this possible? I understand that I will still be on the eng. boot kernel but that's fine.
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You can try the unroot option in the SU app but I doubt it will work because the files are pushed to the system by ADB. I could be wrong though.
This is one thing I have been curious about as well. I just want to make a few changes to files that require root, then remove root to keep my Samsung Pay working but the changes still saved in place. I feel like someone has tried it, I just haven't ran across the post yet...
I'd like to keep the U firmware while having all of the Verizon essentials but without root. Even optimized with all battery savings, I'm getting heat just using chrome and having more battery drainage than when I was unrooted. I read it's something dealing with the eng.boot since it's not made for daily use.
So would it be possible just to factory reset U firmware and have the necessary Verizon apps to install afterwards? I'm guessing root isn't that beneficial for me at this point if it just drains my battery since I usually would have 3 hours of SOT by 50%, and now it's only 2 hours by 50%.
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So would it be possible just to factory reset U firmware and have the necessary Verizon apps to install afterwards? I'm guessing root isn't that beneficial for me at this point if it just drains my battery since I usually would have 3 hours of SOT by 50%, and now it's only 2 hours by 50%.
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You can install most of the Verizon apps through the Play Store except for VVM, which requires you to write into /system and thus requires root and thus the eng. kernel. Also you won't be be able to patch the HD Calling feature without root as well. IF you need these features, then the eng. kernel is a must have in order to obtain root to install.
If not, you're good to go. I'm sure there's probably something else I'm missing.
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You can install most of the Verizon apps through the Play Store except for VVM, which requires you to write into /system and thus requires root and thus the eng. kernel. Also you won't be be able to patch the HD Calling feature without root as well. IF you need these features, then the eng. kernel is a must have in order to obtain root to install.
If not, you're good to go. I'm sure there's probably something else I'm missing.
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Then it would already be pretty great to simply get a debloated stock Verizon firmware. Because I was amazed at how much free space I had for internal storage once I flashed the U firmware and the v15 debloat fix zip. If I could go all of that without the battery drainage that I'm pretty sure is coming from root itself.
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Then it would already be pretty great to simply get a debloated stock Verizon firmware. Because I was amazed at how much free space I had for internal storage once I flashed the U firmware and the v15 debloat fix zip. If I could go all of that without the battery drainage that I'm pretty sure is coming from root itself.
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Your battery drainage is due to the engineering kernel, not necessarily from root. It is not an optimized kernel at all. When I was rooted, the phone was 6 degrees C warmer at idle than stock and would lag. This is with all the V15 fixes from the S7 thread. And heat kills battery life.
I'm sure someone could do this. I'm from the verizon flat s7 forums and a person is suggesting getting on the rooted firmware then from that installing a debloated stock rom from there without root but with various cooked in optimizations. It's not out yet but I'm waiting to see what comes of it. Root hasn't settled enough for me to run it all the time just yet.
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JediDru said:
I'm sure someone could do this. I'm from the verizon flat s7 forums and a person is suggesting getting on the rooted firmware then from that installing a debloated stock rom from there without root but with various cooked in optimizations. It's not out yet but I'm waiting to see what comes of it. Root hasn't settled enough for me to run it all the time just yet.
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That's actually perfect, when possible. :0
Could you not just apply the fixes and unroot or flashing will remove these?
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I have a verizon edge model sm-g935v....build # g9325vvru4ap13.
I see everyone talking about the 935u firmware. Is an update for my "V" or is it firmware for another edge model (and i shouldn't be concerned about it)?
935v is the Verizon version and the 935u is the unlocked version.
935v comes with all the bloat ware from stock Verizon, while the 935u comes with no bloat but you might have to do some configurations (apn,mms,etc...) for it to work with Verizon.
Hope that helps ya.
Ps: installing 935u won't unlock your phone (sadly)
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935v is the Verizon version and the 935u is the unlocked version.
935v comes with all the bloat ware from stock Verizon, while the 935u comes with no bloat but you might have to do some configurations (apn,mms,etc...) for it to work with Verizon.
Hope that helps ya.
Ps: installing 935u won't unlock your phone (sadly)
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Many thanks! I see now....just one more question:
I now have:
model # - SM-G935V
Android verzion - 6.0.1
baseband version - G935VVRU4AP13
build # - MMB29M.G935VVRU4AP13
I've accepted the OTA update when I got my phone last week.
So i assume I need to use this root guide...Verizon Root Guide (Knox still good)Verizon Root Guide (Knox still good).....http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/verizon-root-knox-t3410624?
instead of using this one......
{GUIDE} Flashing the SM-935U firmware onto your Verizon S7 Edge and Rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/veri...1#post67674771
I can also flash the U firmware sometime in the future once i've rooted the V firmware?
you can flash either and root both. I have the same phone as you with same base band ect. I first tried the root method for the 935v and had bad battery issues so i switched and flashed the 935u and ran it stock for 3 weeks with no changes and had no issues loved the no Verizon crap, the phone ran nice. I just rooted the 935u today using stang5litre edition 5.0 ver2 and so far it is running smooth with no issues. testing out the battery life now. It is up to you what you want to flash. they both do the same thing as far as root. however I had lot of issues with the basic root 935v... I like the stang5litre v2 its all set up and don't have to tweak anything.... so far...
I would stay away from the "U" firmware until you familiarize with the terms and root.
And well in theory both of the guides are good to follow, since the only thing you are doing is flashing the eng-kernel.
Now before you go on, what's the purpose of you rooting?
Flashing another Rom?
Have stock, but modified Rom?
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I would stay away from the "U" firmware until you familiarize with the terms and root.
And well in theory both of the guides are good to follow, since the only thing you are doing is flashing the eng-kernel.
Now before you go on, what's the purpose of you rooting?
Flashing another Rom?
Have stock, but modified Rom?
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flashing another rom to get the additional benefits.
btw....i've rooted my last 4 galaxy phones, so i'm familiar with the terms, etc. it's just that this rooting is different than the past techniques. thanks for your help.
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you can flash either and root both. I have the same phone as you with same base band ect. I first tried the root method for the 935v and had bad battery issues so i switched and flashed the 935u and ran it stock for 3 weeks with no changes and had no issues loved the no Verizon crap, the phone ran nice. I just rooted the 935u today using stang5litre edition 5.0 ver2 and so far it is running smooth with no issues. testing out the battery life now. It is up to you what you want to flash. they both do the same thing as far as root. however I had lot of issues with the basic root 935v... I like the stang5litre v2 its all set up and don't have to tweak anything.... so far...
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Thanks a ton, Justin.ice!
I see that we no longer have TWRP. HOw do i make a nandroid backup?
Also, is there a way to backup the app installs i've done while my phone is stock? then, once i get root/install rom, I can just restore them?
chumboy said:
flashing another rom to get the additional benefits.
btw....i've rooted my last 4 galaxy phones, so i'm familiar with the terms, etc. it's just that this rooting is different than the past techniques. thanks for your help.
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Yeah, S7e is a bit different.
chumboy said:
Thanks a ton, Justin.ice!
I see that we no longer have TWRP. HOw do i make a nandroid backup?
Also, is there a way to backup the app installs i've done while my phone is stock? then, once i get root/install rom, I can just restore them?
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Sadly no Nandroid Backups but, once rooted you can use titanium backup for the backing then again for restoring once in the new rom.
Im using titanium for my backup and my google account has my apps as well if I have to go back to stock.
Are there any performance benefits to the u vs. V version??
conrad2123 said:
Are there any performance benefits to the u vs. V version??
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Removed verizon bloat ware. Other then that there the same.
Justin.ice said:
Removed verizon bloat ware. Other then that there the same.
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OK. That is what I thought. Thanks.
Is the diagnostic mode is available on the U firmware?
###366633# or ##3424#?
Could someone please try..
chumboy said:
Thanks a ton, Justin.ice!
I see that we no longer have TWRP. HOw do i make a nandroid backup?
Also, is there a way to backup the app installs i've done while my phone is stock? then, once i get root/install rom, I can just restore them?
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No real way to do a nandroid backup. You can backup all your partitions with FlashFire, but the problem is if you brick your phone you can't get to FlashFire to do a restore.
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Are there any performance benefits to the u vs. V version??
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In theory the U version should be slightly more snappy since it comes without the bloat and therefore unnecessary running processes, but Android's baked-in OOM handling is fine and the bloat has minimal impact if any. I've seen some people say they've had less root-related problems with the U, but otherwise there's not much of a difference.
Justin.ice said:
you can flash either and root both. I have the same phone as you with same base band ect. I first tried the root method for the 935v and had bad battery issues so i switched and flashed the 935u and ran it stock for 3 weeks with no changes and had no issues loved the no Verizon crap, the phone ran nice. I just rooted the 935u today using stang5litre edition 5.0 ver2 and so far it is running smooth with no issues. testing out the battery life now. It is up to you what you want to flash. they both do the same thing as far as root. however I had lot of issues with the basic root 935v... I like the stang5litre v2 its all set up and don't have to tweak anything.... so far...
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So you flashed the U firmware following the guide posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...de-flashing-sm-935u-firmware-verizon-t3415145
Then you flashes stang5litre and all was good for you?
I want to do the same to my phone once it comes in the mail I just want to be sure. I also plan on using it on Cricket so I hope that works too.
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So you flashed the U firmware following the guide posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...de-flashing-sm-935u-firmware-verizon-t3415145
Then you flashes stang5litre and all was good for you?
I want to do the same to my phone once it comes in the mail I just want to be sure. I also plan on using it on Cricket so I hope that works too.
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Yep, everything went good and installed on first try. I played around with colors and apps...the link issue I had I think was with the xda app. Other then that. The battery was almost stock. System ran nice with no lagging.
Justin.ice said:
Yep, everything went good and installed on first try. I played around with colors and apps...the link issue I had I think was with the xda app. Other then that. The battery was almost stock. System ran nice with no lagging.
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Awesome. You give me hope lol. I don't suppose you know if the U firmware unlocks all the LTE bands so I have flawless connectivity with Cricket would you? Also after you flash Stang5litre did you still have fully working root? Cheers mate
blackra1n said:
Awesome. You give me hope lol. I don't suppose you know if the U firmware unlocks all the LTE bands so I have flawless connectivity with Cricket would you? Also after you flash Stang5litre did you still have fully working root? Cheers mate
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Not sure on the band's, I think I seen something about it that it had all the bands... as for root with stang5litre yes it has root and everything is baked in the rom.
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Not sure on the band's, I think I seen something about it that it had all the bands... as for root with stang5litre yes it has root and everything is baked in the rom.
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Beautiful. Thanks for your replies mate. You give me hope with this phone lol. I had a Sprint S7 Edge that I traded off of Craiglist and it was a NIGHTMARE to unlock it not to mention there is no dev support for it.
Sold it and got a sweet deal on a brand new Verizon S7 Edge. I sure hope all goes well with flashing.
935V/U Dev
blackra1n said:
Beautiful. Thanks for your replies mate. You give me hope with this phone lol. I had a Sprint S7 Edge that I traded off of Craiglist and it was a NIGHTMARE to unlock it not to mention there is no dev support for it.
Sold it and got a sweet deal on a brand new Verizon S7 Edge. I sure hope all goes well with flashing.
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You gonna be developing for the s7e?? I'm familiar with some of your roms been a few yours, maybe on a moto??? Anyways, hope you're doing something for this....
I have been reading about people bricking there devices trying to root. Are they doing something wrong or is it just not stable? I have rooted a few phones before but what i am reading is scaring me from rooting this one. Any input would be appreciated thanks.
I use my phone often. Not much gaming. And go to bed with usually 60+% battery. I'm currently using Weta Rom but they all are good. Its a trickier root than normal however I think this may be the new normal so just follow directions carefully and you will be fine.
Bubba Fett said:
I use my phone often. Not much gaming. And go to bed with usually 60+% battery. I'm currently using Weta Rom but they all are good. Its a trickier root than normal however I think this may be the new normal so just follow directions carefully and you will be fine.
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Debating it . i dont have a back up phone in case something goes wrong........ I cant even find the thread on how to root now lol.
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Debating it . i dont have a back up phone in case something goes wrong........ I cant even find the thread on how to root now lol.
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Here is a great tutorial with pics that I and few others followed https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/root-your-t-mobile-lg-v20-using-dirty-cow-0175329/ . I was kinda overwhelmed with info esp the horror stories about rooting as well. That tut made life much easier.
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Here is a great tutorial with pics that I and few others followed https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/root-your-t-mobile-lg-v20-using-dirty-cow-0175329/ . I was kinda overwhelmed with info esp the horror stories about rooting as well. That tut made life much easier.
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Will that work for the verizon one?? It says its for the t-mobile one
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Will that work for the verizon one?? It says its for the t-mobile one
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Not sure, the previous link is basically Jcadduono instructions in pic form for the H918,H830 and US996 https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
sorry I couldn't help more
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Not sure, the previous link is basically Jcadduono instructions in pic form for the H918,H830 and US996 https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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No thats fine. i appreciate any help.
Rocking VS995 here. Followed the Dirty Santa steps and it worked easily. Been flashing everything I could on this device and settled on Weta because of the sound mods and still having all the stock features. I've gotten 8hrs SoT with a Blacked Out theme, Substratum themeing, no lag, and Deep Sleep like it's in a coma. Rooting the v20 is a must really at this point. The only downside I've come across is it vibrating during boot up while it's connected to a charger. Otherwise I've rooted, flashed, and been living the life.
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Debating it . i dont have a back up phone in case something goes wrong........ I cant even find the thread on how to root now lol.
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Do not follow any of the above guides that are posted you will kill your phone with those methods. Please follow every detail of this threat to a T to root your verizon v20 https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/ls997vs995h910-dirtysanta-bootloader-t3519410
It has been done guys. i thought i bricked it a few times but i am up and running on stock again with super su and root chaecker saying i am rooted
I am still debating on rooting myself I prefer to keep it root free for at least 6 months in cause something goes wrong with the hardware.
Main reason I root is so I can control what runs and what doesn't which should be a default ability in android in my opinion. I don't root to use custom roms I am always concerned about security of 3rd party roms
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KittySparkles said:
Rocking VS995 here. Followed the Dirty Santa steps and it worked easily. Been flashing everything I could on this device and settled on Weta because of the sound mods and still having all the stock features. I've gotten 8hrs SoT with a Blacked Out theme, Substratum themeing, no lag, and Deep Sleep like it's in a coma. Rooting the v20 is a must really at this point. The only downside I've come across is it vibrating during boot up while it's connected to a charger. Otherwise I've rooted, flashed, and been living the life.
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I can not get weta to boot for some reason. I get static on the screen when booting and when its on set up screen.
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I can not get weta to boot for some reason. I get static on the screen when booting and when its on set up screen.
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Hit the power button to turn the screen off. Then hold your hand over the proximity speaker to turn off the second screen. When they're both black, you can use the phone regularly. It explains all this in the Dirty Santa root method thread.
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I can not get weta to boot for some reason. I get static on the screen when booting and when its on set up screen.
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If you want the static to go away. @BackCheck made a stock verizon kernel that works just a good as the konverged kernel. I get the same battery life as I did on the konvergered kernel and plus its more stable Just do a backup in twrp. Then hit wipe, advanced wipe, and check mark cache and dalvik and then go back and flash the restock kernel. The first boot take a bit of time so make sure your phone is charged a bit! You wont lose data or anything so dont worry.
Any chance you know how to get apps that cheack for saftynet to work on rooted phones?
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Any chance you know how to get apps that cheack for saftynet to work on rooted phones?
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I can't answer this - my question to you, however, has to do with your experiences in rooting.
I have the Verizon V20, non-rooted. The software version (it has taken one update since I bought this a few weeks ago) is VS99513A.
Can you confirm that this was the software version you had (have) when rooting?
And you said you thought you had bricked the phone a few times - what, specifically, are you referring to? I've read enough of the DirtySanta rooting thread to see some of the issues people have run into (static, long wait for first boot, etc.).
One of the unfortunate problems with a universal carrier rooting thread is that it doesn't delineate any one specific carrier and issues with rooting that might be particular to that carrier among all the posts. You have to wade your way through, lol, to find specific Verizon issues, for example. (That said, I'm very happy there's a rooting thread!)
It seems that from what I've read in the DirtySanta thread, many issues came up because people didn't explicitly follow the guide.
So, can you comment on your software version (13A?) before rooting, and what, specifically, gave you pause during the process and what I should be prepared for?
(By the way, the major thing I want from rooting is to be able to get hotspot wifi capability without having to pay Verizon for it. I'm on the grandfathered unlimited data and have not been convinced that it's in my interests to switch to their new "unlimited", particularly since I can't use my corporate discounts, and will potentially run into hotspot throttling after a certain limit, etc.)
Thanks!
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Any chance you know how to get apps that cheack for saftynet to work on rooted phones?
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This is possible with a rooted phone that has a kernel patched to bypass boot state verification (most kernels have this now) and using something like SU hide + Root Switch. I am currently running this setup and can use root switch to turn off root on the fly, use AndroidPay and then turn root back on when done.
I'll admit, I have yet to actually pay for anything with Android pay......but using this approach, I was able to add my credit card as well as bypass all checks with the SafetyNet helper app.
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Any chance you know how to get apps that cheack for saftynet to work on rooted phones?
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Some of the roms like notsostock have people explaining how to pass the checks and all the apps used.
You can run the exploit on 13a without any problems. If you still don't believe me or whatever just use the kdz to downgrade to 12a then do the exploit.
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is there a Developer that I can pay to root my T-Mobile v20
Hello XDA members,
Before anything is said, please note that I've read through hundreds of post but in some cases going through 300 pages to find answers is very difficult.
I'm having issues with my AT&T rooted LG v20 - I performed all steps are outlined in the original post for dirty Santa, including the additional steps to eliminate performance and battery drain issues. However once I was completed I was presented with a STATIC screen and it freaked me out So I read deep in the forums where you were to go into the boot loader and flashed a different boot2.img eliminated the static (thank god) . First few days were fine but now my battery will drain within 8 hours not used and is very sluggish performance wise. .
My question... should i perform the additional steps again related to performance and battery issues with the root ? or should I flash a different kernel and what kernel should I flash thats suitable for the H910
I have the H910 running on the Basilisk 2.0 stock kernel, I highly recommend you try it. Are you still in the stock kernel?
I have a question how exactly did you guys get the h910 rooted to begin with?
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I have the H910 running on the Basilisk 2.0 stock kernel, I highly recommend you try it. Are you still in the stock kernel?
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Yup - stock everything
ps3hacker3 said:
I have a question how exactly did you guys get the h910 rooted to begin with?
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Hey pal, I followed the guide. But depending on your security patch it may not work.
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Hey pal, I followed the guide. But depending on your security patch it may not work.
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Sadly I'm stuck on the latest security update from the looks of it, it already came on it when I got it in store
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Sadly I'm stuck on the latest security update from the looks of it, it already came on it when I got it in store
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Here
I have done some googling, and perused the play store, and I have a question: Which kernel control app would you recommend for rooted G935T on BQH7 (7.0) firmware? Kernel Adiutor is lacking in settings I can adjust/fine tune compared to kernel control apps I have used previously.
Westen81 said:
I have done some googling, and perused the play store, and I have a question: Which kernel control app would you recommend for rooted G935T on BQH7 (7.0) firmware? Kernel Adiutor is lacking in settings I can adjust/fine tune compared to kernel control apps I have used previously.
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Don't root man. It is not worth the lag and battery drain. At this point in time, there are very little things that root can give you compared to stock rom. Speaking of rom, this device doesn't support rom due to locked bootloader. So in the end, just stick with stock and enjoy your device as it is.
Illyakulinych said:
Don't root man. It is not worth the lag and battery drain. At this point in time, there are very little things that root can give you compared to stock rom. Speaking of rom, this device doesn't support rom due to locked bootloader. So in the end, just stick with stock and enjoy your device as it is.
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Already rooted, mainly to get rid of Lookout, other carrier bloatware, and Samsung apps I don't want. Only rooted because the phone was finally getting sluggish, no matter how many cache clears and reboots. Kernel Adiutor is the only one I've used so far that allows setting the governor correctly for *both* sets of cores. Holding out until the Razer phone is on T-Mobile, I think.
Just a tidbit - set governor to Performance for both Big and Little, and changed I/O Scheduler to NOOP.....and damn! Good as new! (after making the settings changes, I also booted recovery and wiped cache partition.)