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Just bought XT1644 - best way to root so that I still get OTA's and security patches?

I am unboxing a new XT1644 - I am going to run the Nougat OTA, after that is done, what is the best root method so that I can get still future OTA's and security patches as they are released? (while remaining rooted)
I plan to keep the phone stock ROM, although I may delete or freeze some bloatware using Link2SD (unless you have a better method to suggest). So I imagine whatever root method will need to be systemless. For flashing software, I will probably just stick with stock recovery or TWRP running via attached Windows 7 computer or else Flashfire.
I am planning to install these apps requiring root:
● AdAway
● Link2SD
● Root Explorer
● SignalCheck Pro
● Trimmer

WTF? said:
I am unboxing a new XT1644 - I am going to run the Nougat OTA, after that is done, what is the best root method so that I can get still future OTA's and security patches as they are released? (while remaining rooted)
I plan to keep the phone stock ROM, although I may delete or freeze some bloatware using Link2SD (unless you have a better method to suggest). So I imagine whatever root method will need to be systemless. For flashing software, I will probably just stick with stock recovery or TWRP running via attached Windows 7 computer or else Flashfire.
I am planning to install these apps requiring root:
● AdAway
● Link2SD
● Root Explorer
● SignalCheck Pro
● Trimmer
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Unlock your bootloader, which will void warranty.
Flash TWRP to your recovery partition via fastboot
Make sure you boot into TWRP first, then back into system
Install Magisk Manager, then download the latest version of Magisk through the app
Reboot to recovery the BACK UP EVERYTHING
Install the Magisk zip located under /MagiskManager
Reboot to bootloader
Flash stock recovery
Reboot to system
NOTE: If you cannot boot after Magisk is installed, you will need to restore your boot partition from within TWRP.
Personally, I don't think you should root and keep up with OTA, it may brick your system with root. (Never happened to me, I've only seen it happen)
Hit thanks if I helped.

Rooting Moto G4 Plus

I just got my Moto G4 Plus and want to root it. Does somebody have a good guide for rooting it?
I found this guide on youtube, can I just follow this?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3bhXe3msxU&t=3s

What stock OS are you running on your device, Marshmallow or Nougat?

echo92 said:
What stock OS are you running on your device, Marshmallow or Nougat?
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I just updated to Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow

If you're on Marshmallow (6.0.1), then the guide you linked should work, you may wish to keep the stock kernel (and not flash ElementalX). Also, instead of phh superuser, you could choose to flash SuperSU or magisk.
Here's a guide for rooting on Marshmallow 6.0.1 as well https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/root-systemless-rooting-supersu-2-74-2-t3405772 You may wish to use a newer build of SuperSU than mentioned in the guide - the latest build currently is 2.82 SR1.

echo92 said:
If you're on Marshmallow (6.0.1), then the guide you linked should work, you may wish to keep the stock kernel (and not flash ElementalX). Also, instead of phh superuser, you could choose to flash SuperSU or magisk.
Here's a guide for rooting on Marshmallow 6.0.1 as well https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/root-systemless-rooting-supersu-2-74-2-t3405772 You may wish to use a newer build of SuperSU than mentioned in the guide - the latest build currently is 2.82 SR1.
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I found a video that showed how to unlock bootloader, and uses SuperSU when rooting. Can I use this guide insted, or is it to old you think?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK2uacpjGwc&t=119s
Thank you so much for all the help btw

skismas said:
I found a video that showed how to unlock bootloader, and uses SuperSU when rooting. Can I use this guide insted, or is it to old you think?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK2uacpjGwc&t=119s
Thank you so much for all the help btw
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Looking through that video, I think it should work for 6.0.1 - as an aside for anyone reading this, the root procedure for Nougat is different. Though the resources linked in the video may work (I have not tested them), you may, as I mentioned above, wish to flash newer versions of TWRP and SuperSU than that linked in the video:
TWRP - (official): https://dl.twrp.me/athene/
I personally use shreps' TWRP: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...covery-twrp-3-0-2-r3-moto-g4-g4-plus-t3494337
SuperSU v2.82: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703 Ideally, you'll want to use v2.79 SR3 or newer as they're systemless root.
EDIT: this guide linked to in the video has a nice description of some of the steps you'll need: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-newbie-resource-thread-t3386584
One thing I'd add to those guides is before you flash SuperSU, make a backup of all of the partitions in TWRP (on the TWRP main menu, you'll see 'Backup'). If SuperSU fails to root or causes instabilty, you'll have a backup to fall back to.
Additionally, when flashing TWRP, you'll see the 'Image not signed or corrupted' warning, that's normal. As long as [OKAY] comes up in fastboot after flashing and you reboot to recovery afterwards (so TWRP is set as your recovery), then TWRP should stick.
You may also receive OTA messages - do not accept these whilst rooted and with TWRP. if you wish to turn them off, have a look here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72373828&postcount=12

Don't FLASH TWRP, just BOOT it up, do whatever you need to do and... keep your stock bootloader. The TWRP is useful mostly for CM/Lineage ROM's, for stock it's just a headache waiting to happen.

echo92 said:
Looking through that video, I think it should work for 6.0.1 - as an aside for anyone reading this, the root procedure for Nougat is different. Though the resources linked in the video may work (I have not tested them), you may, as I mentioned above, wish to flash newer versions of TWRP and SuperSU than that linked in the video:
TWRP - (official): https://dl.twrp.me/athene/
I personally use shreps' TWRP: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...covery-twrp-3-0-2-r3-moto-g4-g4-plus-t3494337
SuperSU v2.82: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703 Ideally, you'll want to use v2.79 SR3 or newer as they're systemless root.
EDIT: this guide linked to in the video has a nice description of some of the steps you'll need: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-newbie-resource-thread-t3386584
One thing I'd add to those guides is before you flash SuperSU, make a backup of all of the partitions in TWRP (on the TWRP main menu, you'll see 'Backup'). If SuperSU fails to root or causes instabilty, you'll have a backup to fall back to.
Additionally, when flashing TWRP, you'll see the 'Image not signed or corrupted' warning, that's normal. As long as [OKAY] comes up in fastboot after flashing and you reboot to recovery afterwards (so TWRP is set as your recovery), then TWRP should stick.
You may also receive OTA messages - do not accept these whilst rooted and with TWRP. if you wish to turn them off, have a look here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72373828&postcount=12
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I managed to root my phone without bricking it! I think......
SuperSU was not on the phone when I rebooted the phone like in the video. I had to download it through play store. But since it says its rooted on root checker, and I could grant it permission, im pretty sure I done it right.
Thanks for the help I really appreciate it

[GUIDE] Root using Magisk, keep stock recovery for OTA

This is a guide for people who want a rooted MIUI. It will keep stock recovery and system partitions untouched to allow MIUI OTAs to install without problems. It will also pass Google's safety net test so bank apps keep working. The best of both worlds really
Requirements:
- Unlocked bootloader
- Windows PC
- fastboot (present in the miunlock app folder)
- Latest TWRP (download here)
- Latest Magisk (download here)
Steps:
- Install latest Magisk app
- Put latest Magisk zip on your device storage (SD)
- Shut down device
- put latest twrp.img in miunlock folder
- Connect phone to PC
- Press volume down and power button to boot to fastboot mode
- Open "Command Prompt" on your PC
- Type: (without quotes)
----- "cd C:\Users\[your name]\Desktop\miflash_unlock-en-2.3.803.10" . (or wherever the folder is)
----- "fastboot devices"
----- "fastboot boot twrp.img"
- In a few seconds, TWRP will boot on your phone. DO NOT swipe to make changes to system.
- In TWRP, flash the Magisk zip
Enjoy root
Disclaimer: I will not be help responsible for any damage or loss caused by following those steps.

Does it mean I can install TWRP and flash xposed etc and still have OTA updates?
What is the difference to this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4/how-to/red-wolf-install-twrp-root-device-t3708337
Best,
kn1g

kn1g said:
Does it mean I can install TWRP and flash xposed etc and still have OTA updates?
What is the difference to this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4/how-to/red-wolf-install-twrp-root-device-t3708337
Best,
kn1g
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Same as my question. Let say system partition won't touch by root, but twrp is installed over the Mi stock recovery. Will it install Eta?

This guide DOES NOT flash TWRP. Stock recovery remains so OTA updates work.
The only thing that is touched by this guide is the "Boot" partition to install magisk. You can restore stock "Boot" using magisk manager's uninstall option at any moment and be 100% stock again.

Ok, but is Xposed etc. possible?

kn1g said:
Ok, but is Xposed etc. possible?
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I haven’t tried but should work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268

It is really works! Thank you!

gonna check this cause i wanna root the phone but keep enjoying updates

I just rooted my Note 4 Qualcomm by this method, so far so good. Really easy and dummy-proof tutorial

I bump this because it worked. Quite easy, clean and fast. Thanx!

I already install latest TWRP for mido and latest magisk, but still I can not update my mido using OTA updater
Anyone can help me?

masri.razak said:
I already install latest TWRP for mido and latest magisk, but still I can not update my mido using OTA updater
Anyone can help me?
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Wrong...u need to boot twrp not to install. Read the OP for steps.

Dadovvv said:
Wrong...u need to boot twrp not to install. Read the OP for steps.
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Well... That's I mean, boot TWRP using adb
After have TWRP, how can i get update via OTA?

it successfully worked for Redmi Note 4 global beta/stable MIUI9.2
even installed camera api 2 using magisk module

Just a quick question. I've TWRP right now with SuperSU. So I'll remove SuperSU, flash Magisk in TWRP. All good till now, but I'd want the stock recovery, a flash-able zip maybe. How can I get it? From where?
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Okay. One can get it from fastboot ROMs available at MIUI website (here), extract the pack and get recovery.img.

Installed successfully on miui 9.2.1.0 stable
Now when a new update for magisk is released, how should i update it??

I have two questions:
1. Why does the bootloader need to be unlocked and how can I do that?
2. What happens to Magisk if I install an OTA?
I'd like to keep the phone untouched but I need to change emojis and with Xposed I can use Youtube in background.

Giacomo_ITA said:
I have two questions:
1. Why does the bootloader need to be unlocked and how can I do that?
2. What happens to Magisk if I install an OTA?
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1. sign on en.miui com and you can use xiaomi unlocker (after 72 hours)
2. two OTA updates and I had to reroot it
but it seems that it is not necessary, I can not post the link
google --> github magisk tips (it should be the first result)

Baxeisindi said:
1. sign on en.miui com and you can use xiaomi unlocker (after 72 hours)
2. two OTA updates and I had to reroot it
but it seems that it is not necessary, I can not post the link
google --> github magisk tips (it should be the first result)
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Do you mean this?
When an OTA is available, please go to Magisk Manager → Uninstall → Restore Images. Do not reboot immediately or you will have Magisk uninstalled. This will restore your boot (or dtbo if available) back to 100% untouched stock images in order to pass verifications. This step is required before doing any of the following steps written below!
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Giacomo_ITA said:
Do you mean this?
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Yes, I hope it works, anyway at the next update I will reroot it in a few minutes.

[Collected GUIDE] starting with Oreo stock

I am not responsible for your bricked phone or pigeon poo on your toupe. Do at your own risk.
Just my opinion:
I assume you are unlocked - if not see links to Motorola and do that.
Borrowing from @rafikowy :
1. get the stock signed ROM. I RSDlite'ed it onto my phone as to me it is the easiest way to get a clean phone.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...m-official-fastboot-stock-oreo-image-t3786537
2. root it etc...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/guide-how-to-magisk-root-xposed-oreo-8-t3743273
NOTE: on this step, I temp boot to TWRP (fastboot boot twrpimagename) so that i can easily take an ota update. See below... (thanks @jceballos )
3. if things ever go awry... or you want to downgrade to 7.x.x ...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...se-attempt-t3812530/post76991120#post76991120
NOTE, with this build and root, if you want to take an ota update, temp boot to TWRP and install/flash latest magisk uninstaller.
Then let ota download and update.
To put back root, re-flash 16.0 magisk and re-flash the f2fs thing.

Need instructions to install Magisk systemless root in S7 Edge running 8.0

Hi guys,
I have gone thru the forum to install Magisk systemless root in S7 Edge running 8.0 but have few questions.
1. Is TWRP mandatory to install Magisk for systemless root?
2. If above point is yes, then will the device be eligible for OTA even with TWRP recovery?
3. Please provide steps to install Magisk systemless root in S7 Edge running 8.0 latest October patch
Thanks in advance.

mpadhu said:
Hi guys,
I have gone thru the forum to install Magisk systemless root in S7 Edge running 8.0 but have few questions.
1. Is TWRP mandatory to install Magisk for systemless root?
2. If above point is yes, then will the device be eligible for OTA even with TWRP recovery?
3. Please provide steps to install Magisk systemless root in S7 Edge running 8.0 latest October patch
Thanks in advance.
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Go Here https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-root-android-8-0-oreo-t3840271
1. U need TWRP for flashing Magisk.
2. When ur intentions are gaining root access, u should forgo OTA.
3. The above link has everything u need.

joeljose1001 said:
Go Here https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-root-android-8-0-oreo-t3840271
1. U need TWRP for flashing Magisk.
2. When ur intentions are gaining root access, u should forgo OTA.
3. The above link has everything u need.
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Thank you for your time and response. There is something called systemless root which will hide the root from the system and also allows official OTA updates.

mpadhu said:
Thank you for your time and response. There is something called systemless root which will hide the root from the system and also allows official OTA updates.
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From what I know, when you download an OTA and prompt your device to install it, your Android system performs a series of checksums to ensure that your /system, /boot, /recovery, and /vendor (or /OEM) partitions are unmodified from their original stock configuration.
The benefit of Magisk is that it does not modify the system partition, but while installing Magisk, the first thing it does is patch boot image. So you might have to restore the original boot image for the OTA to work.
Also, the OTA is designed to be installed via the stock recovery which has been overwritten with TWRP. So, I think u will face a problem there too.
I'm not saying that it's impossible to get an OTA update. It just might not be as easy as u r used to.

joeljose1001 said:
From what I know, when you download an OTA and prompt your device to install it, your Android system performs a series of checksums to ensure that your /system, /boot, /recovery, and /vendor (or /OEM) partitions are unmodified from their original stock configuration.
The benefit of Magisk is that it does not modify the system partition, but while installing Magisk, the first thing it does is patch boot image. So you might have to restore the original boot image for the OTA to work.
Also, the OTA is designed to be installed via the stock recovery which has been overwritten with TWRP. So, I think u will face a problem there too.
I'm not saying that it's impossible to get an OTA update. It just might not be as easy as u r used to.
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Got your point. Thank you. I read that Magisk can be installed without root or even custom recovery.
The below is taken from the official Magisk thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
How to download or extract the stock boot image file from my official ROM?
"Via Magisk Manager:
This method does not need root, and also does not require a custom recovery.
However, you MUST have a stock boot image dump beforehand, and you also have to be able to flash the patched boot image, either through fastboot/download mode or ODIN
Install the latest Magisk Manager
If you're planning to flash the patched boot image through ODIN, go to Settings > Update Settings > Patched Boot Output Format, and select .img.tar. For normal users leave it as the default .img
Press Install > Install > Patch Boot Image File, and select your stock boot image file
Magisk Manager will now patch your boot image, and store it in [Internal Storage]/Download/patched_boot.img[.tar]
Copy the patched boot image to your PC. If you can't find it via MTP, you can pull the file with ADB:
adb pull /sdcard/Download/patched_boot.img[.tar]
Flash the patched boot image to your device and reboot. Here is the command if using fastboot:
fastboot flash boot /path/to/patched_boot.img"