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I used to be a Samsung fanboy from the S2 up to Note 4... but as you all know, Samsung has gone the "apple" way with their phones. I really like removable back cover to change batteries. Both our Note 4's at home have just recently changed batteries because the old ones were bloated.
Now I am thinking of getting a new phone, the S8 looks nice but I am looking for an alternative with similar or specs but removable back of course (except iCrap) ...
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xdm9mm said:
I used to be a Samsung fanboy from the S2 up to Note 4... but as you all know, Samsung has gone the "apple" way with their phones. I really like removable back cover to change batteries. Both our Note 4's at home have just recently changed batteries because the old ones were bloated.
Now I am thinking of getting a new phone, the S8 looks nice but I am looking for an alternative with similar or specs but removable back of course (except iCrap) ...
Thanks
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Good luck. Samsung is still one of the few with a headphone jack even.

Oneplus 5 has the same Snapdragon 835 as the US S8's and more RAM, but people are complaining about camera and "jello effect" issues with it.

xdm9mm said:
I used to be a Samsung fanboy from the S2 up to Note 4... but as you all know, Samsung has gone the "apple" way with their phones. I really like removable back cover to change batteries. Both our Note 4's at home have just recently changed batteries because the old ones were bloated.
Now I am thinking of getting a new phone, the S8 looks nice but I am looking for an alternative with similar or specs but removable back of course (except iCrap) ...
Thanks
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Almost every (if not every) phone has a non removable back cover now...
Samsung is still a nice option if you like a stock phone. Otherwise you could buy a Oneplus 5 or the upcomming pixel 2

xdm9mm said:
I used to be a Samsung fanboy from the S2 up to Note 4... but as you all know, Samsung has gone the "apple" way with their phones. I really like removable back cover to change batteries. Both our Note 4's at home have just recently changed batteries because the old ones were bloated.
Now I am thinking of getting a new phone, the S8 looks nice but I am looking for an alternative with similar or specs but removable back of course (except iCrap) ...
Thanks
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It may not be that easy to find a nice phone with removable battery. I have LG G5 that has removable battery, but that is 2016. I don't believe most people use their phones for more than 2 or 3 years and for that period the built-in battery is enough.

you are getting 64GB internal memory and 4GB RAM what else do you need in this price mate? those brands like Samsung, LG or any other you name it will charge you over $500 for same these specs

jameelmemon said:
you are getting 64GB internal memory and 4GB RAM what else do you need in this price mate? those brands like Samsung, LG or any other you name it will charge you over $500 for same these specs
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And Mediatek SoC. And a 5 years old camera sensor. But yeah...same specs =)

jameelmemon said:
you are getting 64GB internal memory and 4GB RAM what else do you need in this price mate? those brands like Samsung, LG or any other you name it will charge you over $500 for same these specs
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They are not the same specs by any stretch of the imagination. LOL.

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Moved to S6 from which device & why

Current device: Galaxy S5
Why: Because S6 will be / is better in every aspect.
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Gonna stick to Note 4
I like GalaxyS6Edge but i am going to stick to Note4 because SPen. By the way, SdCard and Removable battery are also my main reasons.
Sticking to S4 until I find a quality phone with MicroSD
Sent from my last Samsung device....
Micro SD card get the m9.
For 5years I had several htc devices back to touch HD and now m8. The point was I hated Samsung for their plastic devices and TouchWiz. Imo sense is way better.
But now with the s6 edge samsung has done everything I expected. Metal Frame and unbloated TouchWiz. So I will switch to the s6 cuz for me it has the more advantages then the m9. I will miss sense and the speakers, but I will get a fantastic camera and design.
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The only smartphones I have owned are the SG1 and 4. Contract is up at the end of the month so the 6E it is. Never had any issues with both phones.
from a Note 4
loving the premium build and specs on the s6 edge
Going to be coming from the G3.
Mainly for the green model and because the M9 is underwhelming. Also to have a new piece of tech to play with
Moving to the S6 Edge 128 from my HTC One XL (Evita) because it's just about time lol. Also my device now suffers from excessive random reboots and severe battery drain issues.
Small chance I might go with the HTC One M9, but I'm strongly leaning S6 Edge at this point.
My smartphone evolution: S3, Xperia ZL (only one week), S4, Oppo Find7a and last but not least Xperia Z3.
The S3 remains in my possession in case of loosing/destroying my current smartphone... it's a reserve. The Z3 is a really nice device but the camera isn't a point and shoot one.
After skipping the S5 (didn't like the backside) the S6 is a Samsung phone that attracted my attention again in spite of the glass back (Z3), the non removable battery (Z3) and the missing sd-slot (I lost many, many data because of a broken sd card!!!).
Perhaps Otterbox designs a water/dust/shockproof case for the S6...that would be great...waterproofing is a nice to have feature but it's nonessential.
Probably going to switch from a Note 4 because after having the iPhone 6 I always told myself my perfect phone would be Android running on the iPhone 6 hardware with the iPhone 6 camera... the GS6 looks to achieve that
Once I see what LG has in stock, I might move over from my G3. I have unlimited data on vzw so I'm not too concerned about storage and as long as the battery does well in the reviews, I might consider it since I do like the new look.
From note 3 because I want the fastest and best phone on the market aka s6. Also want to have a smaller phone (Higher PPI yeaaah)
Current device: note 3
Reasoning: really hoping to, but not switching mainly because of the lack of SD slot and removable battery. I love their choice of new materials, but not worth sacrificing the usefulness of those features (swap batteries often and like multiple SD cards for back up/romming/music/etc.). Additionally, I've always opted for snapdragon variants (although I am not opposed to exynos, but that real world performance remains to be seen in this case), and the extreme protrusion of the camera is a real turn off.
Coming from M8 after a really good two year journey with HTC... I have very high expectations for the S6.
Glitch4583 said:
Once I see what LG has in stock, I might move over from my G3. I have unlimited data on vzw so I'm not too concerned about storage and as long as the battery does well in the reviews, I might consider it since I do like the new look.
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you dont think its too expensive?
$699 for the 32gb regular s6 / $799 for the 32gb edge
or mind the locked bootloader?
im on the fence too. wanting a green S6 EDGE but ifk vzw is getting the green one
altimax98 said:
Probably going to switch from a Note 4 because after having the iPhone 6 I always told myself my perfect phone would be Android running on the iPhone 6 hardware with the iPhone 6 camera... the GS6 looks to achieve that
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Apple has never made a camera this good
GreeleyXda said:
you dont think its too expensive?
$699 for the 32gb regular s6 / $799 for the 32gb edge
or mind the locked bootloader?
im on the fence too. wanting a green S6 EDGE but ifk vzw is getting the green one
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The price is definitely a concern to me since if I was going to get one, I would go with the 128GB model to get over the fact that I don't have an SD card anymore. Thank god I have a partner that allows me to buy stupidly pricey stuff every so often. As far as the locked boot loader, I would have to see how people are able to build out custom ROMS that run on Sense. Especially with the Edge model, I'm wondering if running on Sense might allow for the extra features on the phone to run better or at all. I always run Nova as my launcher so Touchwiz's interface would be running in the back instead of in my face all the time. On top of that, this would hardly be the first phone I've used that had a locked bootloader that the dev community has managed to get unlocked. We have some very talented people on this site that manage to do some very cool stuff. I remember in the early days of the M8, people were saying that we were doomed to get the device fully unlocked. Now, it's very easy to get that thing running fully unlocked. Plus, if we're super lucky, Samsung might release a developer edition with at least 64GB if not 128.
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Apple has never made a camera this good
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Have you ever used the iPhone 6 camera? It is bar none the best camera available in almost every light. I love my Note 4 but it gets thrashed by the wifes iPhone in everything but outdoor sunlight. The focus time is the real difference.
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Have you ever used the iPhone 6 camera? It is bar none the best camera available in almost every light. I love my Note 4 but it gets thrashed by the wifes iPhone in everything but outdoor sunlight. The focus time is the real difference.
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We aren't talking about the Note 4 camera. We are talking about the camera on the S6. This is going to be the best camera in a smart phone upon release. The iPhone will be a distant second. By the way, you might be the first person I've heard that has anything negative to say about the pics rom the Note 4. I personally don't have one, but everyone I know that has one thinks it blows the iPhone away.
Coming from a One plus one. Just sold it on swappa and also sold my moto 360 just in case the device is a little more expensive. all in all , have $800 to spend. Lookiing at the 64GB Edge version. hopefully its just 750 and I use the other 50 to get a case or something,
Why? well honestly, I wanted the iphone 6 design with android and samsung has accomplished this (not something to be proud of). Also because of the fingerprint scanner, the speed of the device, the smaller screen compared to my 1+1, and samsung pay. oh and the attention grabbing aspect of the 6 edge

Note 5 = S6 Plus?

seriously? is samsung taking away the removable battery and the sd card slot? what the hell are they thinking..are they trying to be like Apple.. iif the imagines are true then i guess ill stick to my n4 and when the time comes to put it to rest once and for all then i will have to look for other mobile solutions...but oh well..fortunately there is more to life than mobile phones
hello00 said:
seriously? is samsung taking away the removable battery and the sd card slot? what the hell are they thinking..are they trying to be like Apple.. iif the imagines are true then i guess ill stick to my n4 and when the time comes to put it to rest once and for all then i will have to look for other mobile solutions...but oh well..fortunately there is more to life than mobile phones
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The S6 plus =/= Note 5.
Forbes has stated that there is a rumour that the Note 5 may have a removable glass back cover. If that is true then the user replaceable battery and microSDCard slot should may stay with the Note 5. As for the S6 Plus , I think that will replace the Note Edge from last year.
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Forbes has stated that there is a rumour that the Note 5 may have a removable glass back cover. If that is true then the user replaceable battery and microSDCard slot should may stay with the Note 5. As for the S6 Plus , I think that will replace the Note Edge from last year.
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then that is a lawsuit waiting to happen..there will be injuries
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Agreed.
using Glass is the most stupid thing to do................. Well I will keep with my Note 4 until Samsung come with something better
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using Glass is the most stupid thing to do................. Well I will keep with my Note 4 until Samsung come with something better
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Titanium?
No honestly, Samsung is just looking what customers will pay ... for me, glas is a no-go...why change something that is already perfect (at least for me). Metal will easily bend, glas is just stupid and everything else is just to expensive. So keep the plastic, it does the job for less money and it just feels better in the hand.
If Note5 doesnt have microsd, I'll keep my note4 and wait for the next nexus
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huh?
toofimoofi said:
If Note5 doesnt have microsd, I'll keep my note4 and wait for the next nexus
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Because nexus comes with removable back and SD card !!!!?
Seriously? S Pen is still one of the reasons for me to stay in the Samsung camp, but if they're taking away the removable battery, I might consider a change to something like LG.
There are lots of reasons I chose the Note 4. Three of the most important were the S-Pen, the micro SD slot and most importantly the removable battery. Without that replaceable battery the choice might come down to the S-Pen on the next Note vs the quicker upgrades of the next Nexus device or the replaceable battery/micro SD slot of the next LG flagship.
Whatever my next phone will be, it won't be a Samsung just because it's Samsung, it will have to have the strongest set of compromises for my particular needs on the market at the time.
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Because nexus comes with removable back and SD card !!!!?
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No. Because nexus gets the latest android updates.
Next nexus may have sd card google have added somethings to support sd cards natively in android m
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If Note5 doesnt have microsd, I'll keep my note4 and wait for the next nexus
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Same here. Dissapointed with the note 5 because of the restrictions.

Overall a step backwards compared to the Note 4? Alternatives?

Overall, it looks like this phone doesn't seem to offer much compared to the Note 5 for enthusiasts.
This seems to be a matter of form over function here:
3000 Mah battery, which will probably not last 1 day of heavy use - even less so if you are outside (you must turn up the screen brightness in the sun)
To add insult to injury, no removable battery, so extended batteries by companies like Hyperion are harder to come by and in 12 months, changing the battery (because it doesn't hold as much of a charge) will be more difficult
No SD Card (for people who want to store FLAC and movies on their phone)
Exynos means that this phone will probably not be getting an AOSP ROM (not saying the 810 Snapdragon is perfect, as it overheats, but the larger size of the Note might be able to mitigate that)
Glass back assures that you have to use a case or it will crack (plus it makes the "premium" pointless)
They got rid of the IR blaster too
No features like water proofing or anything else special
Other specs are not a huge upgrade - the Exynos is faster than the Snapdragon 805 on Note 4, but not by much
I guess we should look for alternatives? There were rumors of an LG G4 Note (or Pro) and LG's executives did confirm they were releasing an "ultra premium" (their words) device.
There needs to be an "ultra premium" phablet device other then the note...I thought I would be upgrading but not planning on it anytime soon.. hopefully another company steps up and fills the void samsung just left.
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Overall, it looks like this phone doesn't seem to offer much compared to the Note 5 for enthusiasts.
This seems to be a matter of form over function here:
3000 Mah battery, which will probably not last 1 day of heavy use - even less so if you are outside (you must turn up the screen brightness in the sun)
To add insult to injury, no removable battery, so extended batteries by companies like Hyperion are harder to come by and in 12 months, changing the battery (because it doesn't hold as much of a charge) will be more difficult
No SD Card (for people who want to store FLAC and movies on their phone)
Exynos means that this phone will probably not be getting an AOSP ROM (not saying the 810 Snapdragon is perfect, as it overheats, but the larger size of the Note might be able to mitigate that)
Glass back assures that you have to use a case or it will crack (plus it makes the "premium" pointless)
No features like water proofing or anything else special
Other specs are not a huge upgrade - the Exynos is faster than the Snapdragon 805 on Note 4, but not by much
I guess we should look for alternatives? There were rumors of an LG G4 Note (or Pro) and LG's executives did confirm they were releasing an "ultra premium" (their words) device.
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I got a G4 and it's a beast. Compared to a Note 4 and it's marginally smaller.
Yeah it's a step back and a sidegrade at best.
Amazingly the Note 4, which I have, remains the best smartphone in the world at least for me.
I suspect sales of the Note 5 will be disappointing like the Galaxy S6 and hopefully the Note 6 will be an improvement.
Abandoning Note 4, and not for a Note 5 ...
I too will not go with the Note 5. I'll be watching this thread with interest.
So far I"\'m evaluating between the upcoming Nexus devices (thinking of the Huawei, depending on specs), Moto x Pure (but I prefer to get 4gb RAM due to the large number of apps I use, and the Pure will be 3); LG G4 Pro (but I'm thinking it may be too expensive.
An obstacle for me is I'm on AT&T, and they are pretty much making the vendors make the phones unrootable. (Exceptions out there, but I think those will narrow). So due to need to purchase outside of AT&T, it makes the expense of the phone an issue for me.
Of course I don't think there will ever be a perfect phone.
No IR blaster either :crying:
You forgot the removal of IR-blaster. Wonder what feature they will remove for S7?
Still on my Note 2 and was anticipating the announcement hoping the rumors were false. Too bad, I'm either getting something else or getting a used t-mobile Note 4 from one of the clowns that end up upgrading. The sd card I might live with, the non-removable battery is a complete deal breaker.
I am hoping lack of IR blaster is ....false?
I too am very disappointed with the new offerings from Samsung. I currently have the Note 3, I didn't upgrade to the Note 4 as it wasn't a big enough jump, and the Note 5 is quite disappointing. The non-replaceable battery, no SD card or 128GB phone to make up for this, Samsung Pay will not work with ROOT, and KNOX, makes this another one I will skip. I think at this point I will wait until the new 820 chip powers a nice new phone, before I dump my Note 3.
Very disappointed too.
but not only because the lack of the SD card.
i'm tired of using a heavy device. Almost 180g is just too heavy.
I want something up to 130g.
and, looking back, i'm ready to sacrifice s-pen for a lighter device with no problem at all.
but it has to have sd-card, that's for sure.
you think you got us hooked, Samsung?
wrong! we will switch easily and happily.
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I am hoping lack of IR blaster is ....false?
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No IR blaster. Last year they touted it and this year not on the device.
Not sure if the Moto X Pure has one or not, but does have:
64GB storage option WITH sd slot (128gb more storage than the Note 5)
Front stereo speakers that apparently sound good (preview event feedback)
Zero carrier bloat
Zero of the infamous Samsung bloat
Case design options
No crack magnet glass case design
The 64GB model is over $300 less than the Note 5 64GB. Moto X Pure 16GB = $400, 32GB = $450 and 64GB = $500
Seems from an overall standpoint the Note 5 is comically on the weak side in comparison.
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I too am very disappointed with the new offerings from Samsung. I currently have the Note 3, I didn't upgrade to the Note 4 as it wasn't a big enough jump, and the Note 5 is quite disappointing. The non-replaceable battery, no SD card or 128GB phone to make up for this, Samsung Pay will not work with ROOT, and KNOX, makes this another one I will skip. I think at this point I will wait until the new 820 chip powers a nice new phone, before I dump my Note 3.
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Umm, sir you used incorrect terminology there: Offerings? Lol. jk
I am definitely not getting the Note 5. It's a giant step backwards to pre 2013.
LG G4 Pro in october.
WTF SAMSUNG!!! You cut two of the most essential Note features and you don't make a 128GB model!!!! Insanity ? I think I'll wait for the Nexus 6 or the Moto X pure I'll miss the S pen and multitasking feature but it's not worth it at all. Smh ?
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Getting it regardless.
Wait for the Nexus 5 (2015).
Seems this year your battery life will suck. Let it suck with a Snapdragon 820 inside and pure Android.
Or, as someone mentioned above, G Pro 4 (or whatever the hell it will be named). Will contain probably SD820, massive 27 MP camera and probably bigger battery than Note 5.
Talk about killing the excitement with all these negative reviews. Anyone with positive comments? I will be going from a S4 to the Note 5.
Europe: No Note 5 for the time being
To me the Note 5 is also not a step but actually a giant leap backwards, since Samsung happily decided to abandon a lot of powerful features that made the preceding Notes shine.
Of course I am not surprised that the Note series has now fallen victim to the same strategies the S series has, which come straight out of the playbook from Cupertino.
But what makes me shake my head even more in anger is that - at least for the time being - Samsung are not even planning on bringing the Note 5 to Europe but are trying to force feed us the S6 edge+ over here.
Allegedly because Europeans got their Notes mainly because of the screen size!
Although they cannot speak for the whole continent, my Note 1, Note 10.1 and Note 3 beg to differ.
Note 5 is the best smartphone on the market. Looks very good, top hardware. I'm waiting for full reviews and to see it in stores but it is a beautiful phone. Especially the new metallic color. Everything else is just talk. What I was expected was the 128 gb option. The rest are not so important ( I owned every Galaxy S and Note from the beginning, I use 128 GB sd card atm but has never been occupied more than 50%. Now I own S6 with 128 gb and It's enough. Maybe 64 Gb will be the low limit, but the 32 gb variant it's out of discussion.
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BTW.
1.No IR blaster - a good universal remote from Philips or Logitech cost 30 USD. Can do so much more and so much confortable with that than a phone with limited data base ( samsung has never implemented the learning feature of a true universal remote). So not much of a problem the lack of IR.- there is not.
2. No sd card - 64/128 Gb of fast internal memory will do more than 128 of external with limited capabilities. Do not forget the limitation we had with external sd. BTW -an micro sd OTG adapter is the size of the coin an can be attached to the phone whenever we want.
3. No removable battery -this could be a problem but in my opinion a power user who charge a phone every day will update in 90% of cases before 2 years. Even so the battery could be exchanged with a new one in service without too much trouble.
THE LACK OF 128 GB IS THE ONLY REAL PROBLEM WITH NOTE 5/S6 EDGE +AND THE LACK OF HDMI OUT LIKE THE S6 ( THIS WAS A REALLY STUPID STUPID MOVE FROM SAMSUNG IN MY OPINION)

Galaxy S6 Edge+ or Note 5 - Which one did you buy ?

After the Samsung event today, when the pre-order went live, I got crazy over which one to buy. Even on samsung website, they have put a teaser to select the one I like. For being a note fan, I was inclined towards Note although I loved the edge display of S6 (never liked the 'S' series though). But finally, I took the big step. Ordered one S6 Edge+. Thought why not give a try, I can always change it after a year or two if its not that good, but I gotta try the edge for once.
So, which one did you buy ? (if you thought its worth the upgrade ofcourse). Or do you think I made a mistake ?
Yeah who know's if it's a good choice or not - tell us what it's like when you get it
Note 5 pretty much killed the Note series
I'll get it on 28th. I expected a delivery with the release date, however, I booked mine from BestBuy since they were giving away a free wireless charger (please note that this is not the fast wireless charging pad). I'll post some reviews once I use it for considerable time.:cyclops:
If you're one of 750 million people in Europe Samsung made the decision for you ...
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I'm still on my note 2 here. I was waiting for the announcement to decide if I wanted to go to note 4 or note 5.
The lack of SD card and no removable battery killed it for me.
Then I saw the new keyboard case!!
Omg be still my heart! It's been 4 years since my beloved HTC G2 and it's physical keyboard.
I might jump ship from the note and go for the s6 edge +!
I don't use my spen very often...
I like the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge plus, but the battery maybe the big problem which is bother me. Do I need to carry a power bank with it all day lone?
I wonder if existing S6 Edge owners will be pissed since they just bought a spanking new phone only a few months back, and now so soon an upgrade has been released.
Edge+ for me. I rarely used the S-Pen and just bought the Note line due to the large screen. Battery is a concern, but we will see.
Note 4. Samsung makes decision easy.
Being in the UK it would have to be the S6 Edge+. The only issue is that currently my provider (O2) has announced There will be 1 capacity available - 32GB but it hasn't even been 24 hours so I'm hoping it's incorrect.
Currently running 96GB on my Note
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Note 4. Samsung makes decision easy.
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Exactly. The only thing good about the Note 5 or S6 Edge+ is the looks, mostly everything else is a downgrade over the Note 4.
Lembo said:
Being in the UK it would have to be the S6 Edge+. The only issue is that currently my provider (O2) has announced There will be 1 capacity available - 32GB but it hasn't even been 24 hours so I'm hoping it's incorrect.
Currently running 96GB on my Note
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Hey fellow loyal Samsung user who don't exist according to Samsung!
Even though I would have managed to get over the fact that for what ever reason the Samsung god decided we are not worthy of Note 5, when I went to O2 website and saw the only option of 32 GB.... I simply just close the tab and went to look at XiaoMi Redmi Note 2!
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Right, Note 5 would have been my best choice for an high-end device to buy.
So... I'll buy a Nexus 5 2015.
I got a ship notification for the GS6E+ for a Monday delivery. I guess AT&T had them ready. I just ordered a few hours ago.
Im soo hyped i just got both the S6 Edge+ and the Note 5 pre ordered and im going forum post trigger happy lol I hope they mod, custom rom etc the works on these devices cuz i cant wait to see what these magicians can do with these devices!
which color are u getting, looks like US is getting only the black and the gold version, i was keen on the silver titanium version.
The verizon store owner who is also a friend told me that the gold version looks very classy, as a samsung rep brought it over to the store to show it to him.
I am kinda finding it hard figure out, if i should get the gold or the black
Decided on the edge+ cause i never use the s-pen
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first guy in UK to get one ! maybe in the world
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Exactly. The only thing good about the Note 5 or S6 Edge+ is the looks, mostly everything else is a downgrade over the Note 4.
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Well, I'm not the one to judge what you should or shouldn't buy, however, I wouldn't say its a downgrade in anyway. For further clarification, let me take a few examples of the things people have been complaining about:-
Lower Battery Life
-You might say it has a 200-300 mAh lesser than any competitive device or even older Note devices. However, there is a good reason for that too. The new AMOLED is highly optimized for less power consumption compared to older Note devices. GS6 Edge and Edge+/N5 packs the same Quad HD resolution, hence the screen consumption will be same even though the screen size is bigger since the PPI is reduced in Edge+/N5 (which is again irrelevant to naked eye).
-The 14nm processor is way more power efficient than the older processors used in Note series.
- The non inclusion of SD Card also positively affects the battery life, check google for more info (we will come to the negative side later)
- The LPDDR4 RAM in newer smartphones have double the efficiency (data rate) with considerably less power consumption.
Even though I do not disagree that inclusion of bigger battery with some compromise over thickness would have been better, however, the battery (even though sounds less on paper) is equivalent (if not more) to what we used to get in old note series.
Missing SD Card
This seems to be one of the biggest worries for most of the folks, and they do have a valid reason for that. However, if we talk about why the SD Card hasn't been included, I can tell you its definitely not because SD Card is not supported with UFS2.0. The real reason is due to UFS2.0 being too fast (atleast 3 times of eMMC 5.1 ). When coupled with an SD Card, just imagine the user experience when half the app is running from UFS2.0 while its cache/data is stored in SD Card, that might actually lead to lags. This is the same reason for Apple not supporting SD Cards too (they don't use UFS2.0 though). Although its not the perfect replacement, however, you can pick some cheap sandisk otg flash drives for like 10-15 bux or may be wifi flash drives for like 30-40 bux. At least that's what I use.
Removable Battery
I think they did it to make create that unibody design and give it the premium look. I know it might not be what we were looking for in Note series, however, I do remember the days of the past (like 2 years back) when Samsung was criticized for their cheap plastic models compared to metallic HTCs. Well, guess what, they heard us. Even I miss this one. I'm looking forward to pick one MobilePal QI enabled power bank which retails at around 38 bux. I know we can't carry another bulky device with us all the time, but samsung didn't leave us with much choice in this area.
Missing IR Blaster
I still couldn't figure out what made them get rid of this. I was so much looking forward to this one and this is probably the only thing I would miss on my upcoming flagship. Can't do much here either...
Overall, I do not think Samsung has released a downgrade to its predecessors. The inclusion of amazing hardware [14nm fastest processor, UFS2.0, DDR4 RAM, Fast Wireless Charging, LTE Cat9, Optimized S-PEN, etc] bundled with its fair and unique software does put it above any other flagships in the market ( if we do not consider the price range ). Again, this is not for the sake of any argument, its just as per my analysis. Please feel free to correct me if I've mentioned anything wrong.
If you don't like to call it a downgrade then call it a sidegrade if you like and of cause the SOC, Fast RAM, Software improvements for the SPEN and so on are on the plus side. The problems you name for a SD card would apply to OTG storage just the same, besides you have to have this externally plugged in tearing at the usb port. For now the majority of S6 users seem not to be very impressed by battery time. Maybe software improvements can make that better and the hardware has the potential to deliver equal running times, but for S6 users this promise is not yet fullfilled.
The plastic back of Samsung phone always were a pro argument for me and i did never understand why people cried for metal or glass bodies. A plastic back is light weight, very cheap replaceable. Never had a problem with that while other phones with metal bodies had poor connection strength.
Actually i bought the Note 4 yesterday from my carrier for 19,95€ with contract prolongation while a S6 (without edge) with 128GB would have cost me more than 340€ and S6edge+ will probably be even more expensive while having only 64GB and the Note not be available for Europa at all (at least for now). Paying 300-400€ more for a phone that has some technical advantages and a lot of disadvantages in usability and the promise that regarding battery time it might come close to the note 4 and some of the insufficiencies can be compensated, somehow. Sorry, I don't see this for me.
I think their new commercial slogan will be "Samsung, making decisions easy!".

Now that Galaxy Note 5 is released, simple question: WILL YOU BUY ONE?

Now that Galaxy Note 5 is released, simple question: WILL YOU BUY ONE?
Yes, I bought one out right, 64gb, black.
Edit: Will you buy one? If not, why?
Depending on the phone you're coming from but yeah I'm coming from the g4 and it's head over heels better than that device
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soukie said:
Yes, I bought one out right, 64gb, black.
Edit: Will you buy one? If not, why?
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No, I'm sticking with the Note 4 or moving to LG or Sony. I travel a lot, so upgradable storage and removable battery are must haves for me.
I don't want to rely on cloud storage or power outlets or BULKY external chargers.
I got one. And I love I it, so far.
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Neo3D said:
No, I'm sticking with the Note 4 or moving to LG or Sony. I travel a lot, so upgradable storage and removable battery are must haves for me.
I don't want to rely on cloud storage or power outlets or BULKY external chargers.
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I see. You should keep your Note 4 and hold up for the note 6 maybe they will add the micro SD and removable battery back (I'm hoping). The Note 4 still a great phone and I personally think nothing worth the upgrade over the Note 4 out there at the moment.
I got the Note5 because I loved the s-pen. I never use micro SD or change the battery.
Got it yesterday morning. So far, love it.
Don't buy one until I get mine first.
Got mine on Monday, been enjoying it all week. 64Gb black. Coming from an LG G2, fantastic upgrade.
Neo3D said:
Now that Galaxy Note 5 is released, simple question: WILL YOU BUY ONE?
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Will you mary me, every time I see you post something, I fall in love all over again
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nope..waiting for moto x pure
Kaboose666 said:
Got mine on Monday, been enjoying it all week. 64Gb black. Coming from an LG G2, fantastic upgrade.
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Note 4 would be an upgrade from that too and cheaper.
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Note 4 would be an upgrade from that too and cheaper.
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Yup it would, but since this was almost free for me I really dont care what it would have cost me off contract.
Moved to AT&T next which saved me $25/month on my bill. The phone costs $28/month. Total cost to me $3 more per month.
Besides the G2 didnt have a removable battery, and didn't have mSD card support, so what exactly would the Note4 offer me that the note 5 doesnt, besides a slower SoC, less RAM, worse display (though its still a good one), worse s-pen, and cheaper feel.
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Yup it would, but since this was almost free for me I really dont care what it would have cost me off contract.
Moved to AT&T next which saved me $25/month on my bill. The phone costs $28/month. Total cost to me $3 more per month.
Besides the G2 didnt have a removable battery, and didn't have mSD card support, so what exactly would the Note4 offer me that the note 5 doesnt, besides a slower SoC, less RAM, worse display (though its still a good one), worse s-pen, and cheaper feel.
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More storage and removable battery. Essential for power users, so maybe you're just not a power user.
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More storage and removable battery. Essential for power users, so maybe you're just not a power user.
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Lol I love this argument, i'm not a power user because I use cloud storage and sit at a desk therefore a removable battery means nothing to me.
I have USB OTG if I want removable storage so bad, but I have 1TB of cloud storage so generally I find that pointless, I have 30GB free on my 64GB note5 after installing my apps. I will be fine with the remaining storage considering I am used to 32GB internal from the G2.
You calling me not a power user because you can't fathom how someone else uses a phone without an mSD card or a removable battery is just stupid, those things have no correlation with being a power user. I keep my phone plugged into my computer for literally 80% or more of my day, what would a removable battery do for me? Nothing. mSD storage would allow me to keep 100GB of music with me at all times, sweet too bad I use spotify, or I could keep all those Linux distros on the mSD card, everyone knows power users use Linux for their primary OS so we always keep a distro or two on the phone just in case.
Give me a break, if you think someone not needing an mSD card slot and a removable battery means they aren't a power user then you don't know what a power user does. Those two things have absolutely no impact on what I use my phone for besides maybe not being a mobile data vault, which is a moot point when I have 1TB cloud storage and 75Mbps wifi.
Another dumb ass thread. If you don't want/like the phone don't get it. Nobody wants to keep logging in and seeing this crap. We are looking fwd to root and roms not people complaining about a phone. You don't Iike it don't buy it. Samsung will not lose sleep over you not getting this year's model. Stick to your Note from last year or whatever else you have and let us enjoy our devices. I go through a lot of devices.... Some with swappable battery and expandable storage... Some without. All manage to get me through a day or two and handle all task I do on a day to day basis. The Note 5 is a hell of a device. Awesome build quality, loud speaker, beautiful screen, beautiful camera, very responsive and very good battery life. Once we get root and custom roms more potential will be unlocked.
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Really? Note 5 has the best SoC on the market, fastest RAM (LPDDR4) and more RAM (4GB), best display (18-23% brighter than note 4 while using 20% less power), and fastest internal memory (UFS 2.0).
I got the phone for basically free, but hey I guess i'm just "stupid" for getting the current best phone on the market while only spending $50 out of pocket.
I feel really dumb now.
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Even with all that RAM Note 5 doesn't store apps in memory.
I bought it and still have my note 4.. Couple of downsides to it but it still outperforms the note 4 on every level.. .
I have a otg dongle for extra memory now that literally takes secs to use. And with Samsung's read write speeds it's more than adequately gets the job done..
But nonetheless I still will keep the 4 in case this thing goes belly up for some reason.
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Seriously, I came into the thread since I already bought one. I posted a comment about buying it, the OP has done nothing but make rude comments and attack me since.
What the hell is the point of this thread if you're just going to call everyone who gets a note5 an idiot for not getting a note4?
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I got to be honest I'm running note 3 and ported s6 rom it's a fantastic rom but obviously being 64 bit running on note 3 it has limitations I'm in London and for some reason we don't get n5 till Jan I don't understand logic behind the wait as we are usually before the us on updates iv a choice between s6 edge + note 4 edge or wait for n5 so was hoping for some for and against but seems like the op should rename thread to all who hate note 5 (and love note 4 )
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I got to be honest I'm running note 3 and ported s6 rom it's a fantastic rom but obviously being 64 bit running on note 3 it has limitations I'm in London and for some reason we don't get n5 till Jan I don't understand logic behind the wait as we are usually before the us on updates iv a choice between s6 edge + note 4 edge or wait for n5 so was hoping for some for and against but seems like the op should rename thread to all who hate note 5 (and love note 4 )
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Don't get me wrong I love my note 5 and I'm going to keep it the only thing I don't like about it is not having an IR blaster and that's just because I travel for work and I use it often I cannot wait to get this thing rooted and see what ROMs come out for it

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