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I Just seen the Elocity A10 listed on tiger.
64GB $699
32GB $599
4GB $449 the 16GB not even listed on tiger
WLAN N
Claiming true multi touch this time for A10's
still ships with 2.2 froyo
Looks like the same pointless 1.3mp cam and still front facing(yes I know web cam)
with all the extra space you would think they would switch to full size SD
I truly have nothing against the elocity. I have an A7 with the 1.3 dex mod loving it, but wife wants it so I'm gonna spring for a Enspert Identy tab E201U. Looks promising and very comparable.
The tablet eLocity A10 and prices, and mt discussed already here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941603
A10 models starting to show up.
I just saw all 3 models of eLocity A10 on Tiger Direct for pre-order today. Amazon has it up but only on adding to wishlist when it becomes available. I am soo tempted right now to take my A7 back and get this A10 for just an extra 100 dollars to spend. I wonder if it is even worth it. If SteamTV can't release a fix for the sdram issue or at least add upgrade to gingerbread, I'm going to A10.
Poradicus said:
I just saw all 3 models of eLocity A10 on Tiger Direct for pre-order today. Amazon has it up but only on adding to wishlist when it becomes available. I am soo tempted right now to take my A7 back and get this A10 for just an extra 100 dollars to spend. I wonder if it is even worth it. If SteamTV can't release a fix for the sdram issue or at least add upgrade to gingerbread, I'm going to A10.
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What "sdram issue" ?
Sorry meant SD Mirco card where it wouldn't work properly with A7.
Poradicus said:
Sorry meant SD Mirco card where it wouldn't work properly with A7.
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What issue? I don't have any issues with sdcard...
Dexter_nlb said:
this is all a misunderstanding of how tablets are supposed to work, and caused by the fact that android 2.2 is made for a phone with external memory cards, and less to nothing of internal memory.
the current installation where apps are "moved" to internal storage is actually how vendors are trying to implement 2 types of storage.
comparing this to a mobile with just sdcard, and android 2.2 only supporting one storage type, the preferred storage becomes the "internal" and sdcard handling as you notice is now pointing to a location with the internal storage location.
the mountpoint at the internal storage location is planned based on the fact that users coming from an android based mobile knows alot about where to find data, which is in the storage location, so its put as mount at the storage so its easy to access, and not actually any bug at all.
so until better handling is presented (hopefully 3.0) people will continue to think that the handling is wrong or something is not wright here, but it is correct.
your internal storage of "just" 1.5GB is the preferred location, as tablets are not meant to have sdcards as preferred storage, if you chose not to put a sdcard into the tablet. so the choice was easy, use internal storage for android so ppl didnt need to buy additional cards.
but the lack of storage internally is a vendor decision, not a bug or not "the android way" a problem in any way..
imagine, those users without any sdcard, being unable to use the feature of android to a storage, and needed to use data storage for all files, that would look strange, if you didnt have the option available..
it could have been planned differently but vendors (all of the tegra2 vendors) has chosen this path, which could have been done differently but its all relate to apps and how they expect your device to work..
a long explanation, but remember 2.2 is not made for tablets, it made for small devices with external memory cards, which is long overdue and is followed up with the new android 3.0 which hopefully solves your problem.
conclusion,
Nvidia could have chosen a different way of using android, but they're still rather new to the platform and their design is not without problems yet (honeycomb will show that too), so if they used real planning and organized memory and sdcard handling like 2.2 was made for, you would have no problems at all. Remember Nvidia designed it this way, and they are the reason you have problems..Lack of knowledge of design and functionality, like BMW trying to make graphics card for a pc, coming from designing cars, their work would not be in a class like nvidia graphics, but probably ok..but far from good..
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to answer you last question, usb to pc..
ill figure some idea out on the next update, as the tablet do support host/client usb port setup (recently confirmed), but i think you noticed the tablet don't have a port for connecting to your pc for now..
to enable the usb to pc connectivity you need a special usb cable, and software that changes the usb port mode. which can be solved, but disables the functionality of usb sticks etc, connecting to it.
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Yet another in a line of many "problems" that could have been solved by reading the information that is already here.
What is the official launch date of this (if any) and how many $. US availability
and..is the processor Tegra 2?
thirdly you can connect this to the PC for file transfers right,
no HDMI output?
The launch date for Europe is this month, Samsung have not announced a US or Canadian launch date yet.
Portugal have it up for 699euro, but it won't be that expensive in the states (we pay more in Europe :-( )
Yes it has a tegra 2 dual core processor.
And yes this will be able to connect to a laptop/pc via the propriety port.
WRT the hdmi port, it has not been announced but it would be safe to assume that hdmi connectivity will be achieved through a dock/accessory.
One more q
whats the final say on the SD Card.. yay or nay
I have read that there is no sd card slot. However I have also read a few articles over the past week saying there is, I don't know if those articles are ill informed or whether samsung have introduced an sd card in the final build (the one in MWC didn't have one).
I am still expecting no sd card, but being an optimist I am still hoping there might be one in the final launch
Is SD card SO important?
Is sd card so important?
Well not essential. These tablets are not ready to be complete laptop replacements so most people who purchase a tablet will own a laptop/pc. So to get things on and off the tablet and managing the how much is on the memory won't be a problem by using a laptop to connect to.
But must say it would certainly be more than handy to have one and would make the tab 10.1 a perfect device for me.
But this tablet is still a fore runner for me to get. Especially if it's screen is better than the xoom. That could be likely as I have read reviews that describe the screen as the same or similar to the original tab by appearance, which is a good thing.
Curious to know whether our phones, or any other similar phones, will support this new type of SD card? I've heard of it being tested in SGS2 and others, and it working, but what I'm curious about is whether we will actually be able to utilize the full storage capacity of the new cards?
I'll probably be looking to pick one up when it approached the £50-80 price range.
Before people start saying "why do you need that much space?" My response will be music and videos and when a 128GB card comes out, I'll be getting that too
Thank you in advance for any info, and hopefully this will help others too who are unsure how our phones will handle this card.
Hi,
in general it is working.
See also here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281585
regards,
tom
Thanks for the reply. Have already seen that link though and saw the comment about it being only able to access 32GB. This is what confused me in the first place because I assumed if it worked, then it would work to fully storage capacity.
I'm also thinking about getting a 64gb sdxc card (also got a lot of music, videos and apps).
So if you're gonna get on of those cards please report if they work properly.
Thanks in advance.
I believe the capability to access 64gb is based off firmware or something. If you can upgrade the firmware that is related to the card reader on the phone, it would probably do the trick, otherwise it probably wont work.
Will probably wait until this is confirmed to work properly on our phones. The price will drop over the next year or two so don't really want to splash out 100 quid on something which I may not able to be use properly until I get my next phone. Will post here if I hear any news in the future though.
hey guys and girls, I know its an old thread, but still can't find proof the 64GB sdxc card works... somebody already tried it?
The G2/DZ supports SDHC (max of 32GB), it will not support SDXC (least not officially, use at your own risk).
Why can't my Tab 2 7.0 read exFAT 64GB card when my Galaxy S3 reads it just fine?
right now, my solution is to format both 64GB cards to FAT32 format in order make it work in both tablet and phone....
Seems to me Samsung simply put more resources into the galaxy s3 since it has a much bigger potential market than the tab 2. Tablets are still something of a niche item. While I wouldn't be without one now (it makes a wonderful e book reader) it doesn't really fill any needs for a lot of people. If you have a laptop and a smart phone already you don't really need a tablet, it's more of a luxury.
Also this tablet is made for the budget market. It's around half the price of the new iPad, and cheaper than some of the other androids on the market.
If it really bugs you a lot I'd be willing to wager that the 10.1" note will have exfat support though.
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From my understanding most android devices care limited to 32gb, support for higher capacities has to be added in. Some devices can read 64gb sdxc cards and even fewer can read the 128gb sdxc cards. Samsung likely didnt add extended support due to the budget nature of these tablets, while their flagship devices, which cost more get the extra bells and whistles.
It may be able to be added in with a custom kernel, as could alternate file system support.
As far as I know, exFAT is a proprietary file system of Microsoft, making it works on non-Windows devices the vendors may have to pay for that.
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Best bet for android sd cards is fat32. I have had nothing but problems with exfat and ntfs.
On Digitimes "Samsung reportedly to phase out from microSD card market" as you can see it is being reported that Samsung plans to phase out microSD cards http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130507PD224.html. Also, consider if they go the way of Amazon, Nexus and the rest with no microSD cards--no way for users to warehouse their own data. Therefore requiring an internet connection to access your own data, then there will be few products out there with microSD cards and the storage you buy will be all you have unless you want to store your information on remote servers "cloud" to be accessed only if you have a web connection.
To voice your opinion about microSD cards you can email [email protected] and input. The more people who input on wanting them to continue to use microSD cards/slots in their future products the better chance they will keep the technology. I know this is a matter of choice and everyone feels differently about it, but, if you value having microSD please contact Samsung.
edirector said:
On Digitimes "Samsung reportedly to phase out from microSD card market" as you can see it is being reported that Samsung plans to phase out microSD cards http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130507PD224.html. Also, consider if they go the way of Amazon, Nexus and the rest with no microSD cards--no way for users to warehouse their own data. Therefore requiring an internet connection to access your own data, then there will be few products out there with microSD cards and the storage you buy will be all you have unless you want to store your information on remote servers "cloud" to be accessed only if you have a web connection.
To voice your opinion about microSD cards you can email [email protected] and input. The more people who input on wanting them to continue to use microSD cards/slots in their future products the better chance they will keep the technology. I know this is a matter of choice and everyone feels differently about it, but, if you value having microSD please contact Samsung.
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If there do not provide what I would consider ample storage I would just move to another manufactures device that did or still used external storage.
To be clear, though, the article is not about Samsung discontinuing microSD support on its devices. It does not address that.
The article says that Samsung is going to stop making microSD cards. I don't know that I've bought Samsung flash in a microsd package - I may have, but there will continue to be other vendors.
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To be clear, though, the article is not about Samsung discontinuing microSD support on its devices. It does not address that.
The article says that Samsung is going to stop making microSD cards. I don't know that I've bought Samsung flash in a microsd package - I may have, but there will continue to be other vendors.
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So you think they will provide microSD card slots so users can continue to use them & buy (give money to) another vendor? Not sure whether they will or not but we can input if we appreciate having microSD capability by letting them know instead of waiting to see what they do.
edirector said:
So you think they will provide microSD card slots so users can continue to use them & buy (give money to) another vendor? Not sure whether they will or not but we can input if we appreciate having microSD capability by letting them know instead of waiting to see what they do.
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I guess they will stop making phone with microusb and there are people out here buying micro usb cables from other vendors.
aalupatti said:
I guess they will stop making phone with microusb and there are people out here buying micro usb cables from other vendors.
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Not saying that either but best to be safe than sorry. Lot easier to install a custom rom from a external SD then using your laptop to always side-load them.
edirector said:
So you think they will provide microSD card slots so users can continue to use them & buy (give money to) another vendor? Not sure whether they will or not but we can input if we appreciate having microSD capability by letting them know instead of waiting to see what they do.
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This has little or no bearing on removable MicroSD support on Samsung devices. They probably don't make batteries, yet they still make phones that use batteries (and therefore "giving money to another vendor").
The computer memory market in general is incredibly competitive, and not horribly profitable. I didn't even know Samsung made MicroSD cards to begin with. Maybe its just me, but they never seemed like a big player in the memory market (like SanDisk, Kingston, etc.), so its not surprising to see them exit it.
Yes, there is some trend to embedded memory on tablets and phones (at least on iPhones, HTC, and some other brands). But as long as there is some demand for removable MicroSD support, Samsung will probbaly continue to offer it. They seem to be carving a niche for themselves in the mobile market, by offering features lacked by other brands.
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edirector said:
Lot easier to install a custom rom from a external SD then using your laptop to always side-load them.
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Its ridiculously easy to load a ROM onto embedded memory by mounting USB, either via recovery or just in the Android OS itself. Not any more complicated than loading a ROM onto a removable MicroSD card using a card reader.
I use the Samsung "Pro" microSD cards and prefer them over the Sandisk, but it seems that Samsung hasn't really been very aggressive in marketing these products. As far as other Samsung memory products, their 830- & 840-Series SSD drives are tops. I prefer them over the Crucial and Sandisk SDDs as well. I think Samsung makes the bulk of their memory profits from large OEM contracts for on-board memory, such as for Apple iPhone, etc.
As far as Samsung eliminating the mSD card slot on their future devices, that would certainly be a bummer IMO, but only time will tell if this becomes a reality.
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I use the Samsung "Pro" microSD cards and prefer them over the Sandisk, but it seems that Samsung hasn't really been very aggressive in marketing these products. As far as other Samsung memory products, their 830- & 840-Series SSD drives are tops. I prefer them over the Crucial and Sandisk SDDs as well. I think Samsung makes the bulk of their memory profits from large OEM contracts for on-board memory, such as for Apple iPhone, etc.
As far as Samsung eliminating the mSD card slot on their future devices, that would certainly be a bummer IMO, but only time will tell if this becomes a reality.
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Samsung responded to my email. They said they are researching the source of that article statement and that it would be something they would announce to customers. They, of course, appreciated the input and forwarded the inquiry to the appropriate department for clarity. So writing does help and they did respond. One thing it did, was let them know someone appreciated having microSD cards & slots.