New V20 directly from Sprint, rootable? - LG V20 Questions & Answers

Hello,
I couldn't find anything from searching. The V20 is only $270 on Sprint. If I buy it can I root it and/or install custom roms? From what I researched it seems the latest update blocks root, but I'm not sure if a brand new phone will come with that firmware, I'm guessing not, but I'm also not sure if whatever the second latest firmware blocks root as well.
Thanks

Go into the store and ask to see the box -- the firmware version is on the label. If it is VS99515A or older, you are good. You can't directly root 15A, but you can roll it back.
In my dealings with Sprint, they were pretty good about letting me go through their stock till I found one with older firmware.
-- Brian

runningnak3d said:
Go into the store and ask to see the box -- the firmware version is on the label. If it is VS99515A or older, you are good. You can't directly root 15A, but you can roll it back.
In my dealings with Sprint, they were pretty good about letting me go through their stock till I found one with older firmware.
-- Brian
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If it is on VS99515A, can you also install a custom recovery/flash roms?

No, but if it is on 15A, you can flash older firmware that IS rootable, and then you can flash whatever you want. Anything newer than 15A and you can't revert to an older version, so you would be stuck with an unrootable phone.
-- Brian

hajalie24 said:
Hello,
I couldn't find anything from searching. The V20 is only $270 on Sprint. If I buy it can I root it and/or install custom roms? From what I researched it seems the latest update blocks root, but I'm not sure if a brand new phone will come with that firmware, I'm guessing not, but I'm also not sure if whatever the second latest firmware blocks root as well.
Thanks
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Have you looked at LGs page they have info on how to unlock bootloader for US version? That could be half the battle.

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Retail XT1625 still on MPJ24.139-48. Why haven't I received the new security patch?

Sorry for the stupid question. I have checked in the system settings for a new update but it says I'm on the latest patch. I've also heard that there may not even be a security patch available for the retail US XT1625 and it should still be on MPJ24.139-48, is that true?
I've checked the Motorola website and it seems there is an update that I don't have. I don't really know what I'm doing and I don't want to void my warranty by flashing a newer stock image, if that even does void it.
If there's anything I can do, I would appreciate the help. Thank you.
NDS02 said:
Sorry for the stupid question. I have checked in the system settings for a new update but it says I'm on the latest patch. I've also heard that there may not even be a security patch available for the retail US XT1625 and it should still be on MPJ24.139-48, is that true?
I've checked the Motorola website and it seems there is an update that I don't have. I don't really know what I'm doing and I don't want to void my warranty by flashing a newer stock image, if that even does void it.
If there's anything I can do, I would appreciate the help. Thank you.
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No, MPJ24.139-64 is the latest stock firmware. Not sure why you aren't getting it, unless you are on a custom recovery. That would prevent you from getting the update. I too have the XT1625 and I had to return my device to stock recovery before I received the update. There is a thread somewhere in the forum (might be in G4+) that tells you how.
However, if you are on full stock with no modifications then I have no idea why you aren't getting it.
I am indeed on full stock, I just bought this phone factory unlocked last week from a retail store and I really don't know why I haven't received an update for it. Is there any way that I can force it to update without unlocking the bootloader and just flashing the new stock image? I want to receive the Android 7.0 update when that comes out, but I would also like to update to the most recent build.
Can I sideload the OTA without voiding my warranty and also still get the Android N update when it becomes available? If so how?
If you have any answers I would greatly appreciate them.
NDS02 said:
I am indeed on full stock, I just bought this phone factory unlocked last week from a retail store and I really don't know why I haven't received an update for it. Is there any way that I can force it to update without unlocking the bootloader and just flashing the new stock image? I want to receive the Android 7.0 update when that comes out, but I would also like to update to the most recent build.
Can I sideload the OTA without voiding my warranty and also still get the Android N update when it becomes available? If so how?
If you have any answers I would greatly appreciate them.
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If you are 100% certain the bootloader is still locked then the only thing I can suggest is to contact Motorola Customer Service and find out why it isn't updating. Or return to the store where you purchased it. But my phone downloaded the update even before I returned to stock recovery. I then saved it to my SDCard, returned to stock, and put the update back in the proper folder. When I rebooted it updated the normal way. Was it unopened when you bought it? Maybe the store did something to affect the update. Also, I am on the USA version and assume you are as well.
It is a USA version.
I already called Motorola customer service and they said that the Moto G4 receives updates in batches and that whether or not I receive the security update is based entirely on my carrier. I have Straight Talk AT&T. I've also tried it with a Sprint SIM card and it didn't update either.
When I brought it back to the store I purchased it from (Best Buy), they said that since it's an unlocked phone it will receive updates directly from Motorola, and it doesn't matter what carrier it's on.
NDS02 said:
It is a USA version.
I already called Motorola customer service and they said that the Moto G4 receives updates in batches and that whether or not I receive the security update is based entirely on my carrier. I have Straight Talk AT&T. I've also tried it with a Sprint SIM card and it didn't update either.
When I brought it back to the store I purchased it from (Best Buy), they said that since it's an unlocked phone it will receive updates directly from Motorola, and it doesn't matter what carrier it's on.
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Best Buy is correct. As far as Motorola Customer Service, the answer one gets from to any question depends on who you ask. I have never had to call them, but other users here on XDA have had a wide variety of results. Sometimes calling back and trying a different rep yields better results. Maybe clarifying your phone model/type and the fact you have an unlocked phone would help.
Other than that my friend, I am out of suggestions.
I'm also still on -48. Purchased from Costco.
Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
NDS02 said:
Sorry for the stupid question. I have checked in the system settings for a new update but it says I'm on the latest patch. I've also heard that there may not even be a security patch available for the retail US XT1625 and it should still be on MPJ24.139-48, is that true?
I've checked the Motorola website and it seems there is an update that I don't have. I don't really know what I'm doing and I don't want to void my warranty by flashing a newer stock image, if that even does void it.
If there's anything I can do, I would appreciate the help. Thank you.
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From all the threads and surfing on different sites I have come to a conclusion that the MPJ24.139-63/64 updates is only for amazon variant , because on the official Motorola site the said update is only for amazon variant . And the latest for non-amazon is the MPJ24.139-48/49
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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From all the threads and surfing on different sites I have come to a conclusion that the MPJ24.139-63/64 updates is only for amazon variant , because on the official Motorola site the said update is only for amazon variant . And the latest for non-amazon is the MPJ24.139-48/49
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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Not sure why you came to that conclusion, but you are dead wrong. I do not have the Amazon variant and I received the update to MPJ24.139-64 via the normal update channel from Motorola. Also, here is a link to the Non-Amazon variant of the stock ROM (-64 version):
http://www.filefactory.com/file/3sqq...LT_CFC.xml.zip
Furthermore, I have a copy of the -64 update blur file (non-Amazon variant) saved to my PC.
Any questions?
Can you share the blur file update?
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pastorbob62 said:
Not sure why you came to that conclusion, but you are dead wrong. I do not have the Amazon variant and I received the update to MPJ24.139-64 via the normal update channel from Motorola. Also, here is a link to the Non-Amazon variant of the stock ROM (-64 version):
http://www.filefactory.com/file/3sqq...LT_CFC.xml.zip
Furthermore, I have a copy of the -64 update blur file (non-Amazon variant) saved to my PC.
Any questions?
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Can you share the blur file update?
pastorbob62 said:
Not sure why you came to that conclusion, but you are dead wrong. I do not have the Amazon variant and I received the update to MPJ24.139-64 via the normal update channel from Motorola. Also, here is a link to the Non-Amazon variant of the stock ROM (-64 version):
http://www.filefactory.com/file/3sqq...LT_CFC.xml.zip
Furthermore, I have a copy of the -64 update blur file (non-Amazon variant) saved to my PC.
Any questions?
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Okay , but a lot of Moto G4 users are still on MPJ24.139-48 and not getting the update , especially the ones who are on MPJ24.139-49 . I have not read a single comment from a MPJ24.139-49 user that he/she got the july patch to MPJ24.139-63/64 .
There is a person on the official Lenovo Motorola forums where he wrote that he bought two devices from the same retailer and one of the devices got the update immediately to MPJ24.139-64 but the other one is still stuck on MPJ24.139-49 . Can you help me with that .
I have tried to install the blur files available on the forums but it gives the error because the update is for 139-48 users not 139-49 ones . I have also tried to install the Full Stock MPJ24.139-64 but still gives the " wrong footer " error .
Thanks !
Mansuur said:
Okay , but a lot of Moto G4 users are still on MPJ24.139-48 and not getting the update , especially the ones who are on MPJ24.139-49 . I have not read a single comment from a MPJ24.139-49 user that he/she got the july patch to MPJ24.139-63/64 .
There is a person on the official Lenovo Motorola forums where he wrote that he bought two devices from the same retailer and one of the devices got the update immediately to MPJ24.139-64 but the other one is still stuck on MPJ24.139-49 . Can you help me with that .
I have tried to install the blur files available on the forums but it gives the error because the update is for 139-48 users not 139-49 ones . I have also tried to install the Full Stock MPJ24.139-64 but still gives the " wrong footer " error .
Thanks !
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I have no idea. All I know is that my XT1625 16 Gbyte USA version updated without any issues from -48 to -64 (back in October). The -49 version is a completely different animal (maybe the G4+) and I have no experience with it. You might check your Software Channel under Settings/About Phone and see which one you are on (I am on the retus Software Channel), but other than that I have no clue, unless the version hardware is different.
Again, you are talking apples and oranges when referring to the -49 version.
pastorbob62 said:
I have no idea. All I know is that my XT1625 16 Gbyte USA version updated without any issues from -48 to -64 (back in October). The -49 version is a completely different animal (maybe the G4+) and I have no experience with it. You might check your Software Channel under Settings/About Phone and see which one you are on (I am on the retus Software Channel), but other than that I have no clue, unless the version hardware is different.
Again, you are talking apples and oranges when referring to the -49 version.
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Hahahaha .....
Mine is also ( G4 )ATHENE XT1625 RETUS version , not ( G4+ ).
Available firmware versions for XT1625 are :
MPJ24.139-48
MPJ24.139-49 , and
MPJ24.139-64 . You can check on https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G4 (Plus)/Stock/
For some reason a some users got update from -48 to -64 and some got -48 to -49 and got stuck with it . I do not know what is going on . Just hoping to get the NOUGAT UPDATE . I am also very confused about the number system .
I would love to keep this thread going. I am in the same boat. I have a Moto G4 (Non-Plus) XT1625 Retus version. I am still on MPJ24.139-48. If you review Motorola's website...it says the latest version available is MPJ24.139-64. However, I have never received this OTA update. As a matter of fact I have tried to install this firmware from their website before and while it installs I get error crashes.
As far as I can tell from my research, in the US... some users got 64 but a lot of people are still on 48. Any thoughts? I would love to get this solved. Oh! and before you ask NO i don,t own the amazon variant!
30mmrain said:
I would love to keep this thread going. I am in the same boat. I have a Moto G4 (Non-Plus) XT1625 Retus version. I am still on MPJ24.139-48. If you review Motorola's website...it says the latest version available is MPJ24.139-64. However, I have never received this OTA update. As a matter of fact I have tried to install this firmware from their website before and while it installs I get error crashes.
As far as I can tell from my research, in the US... some users got 64 but a lot of people are still on 48. Any thoughts? I would love to get this solved. Oh! and before you ask NO i don,t own the amazon variant!
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If you are on 139-48 try this OTA update .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/amazon-xt1625-ota-t3474128
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If you are on 139-48 try this OTA update .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/amazon-xt1625-ota-t3474128
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Good news this image worked! I am not on mpj25.139-64 :good: thanks.
Now on to the next problem... Relocking the bootloader. Ever since I unlocked it the first time... I have not been able to lock it. It errors out and asks for an official signed image. Which confuses me... Since ever one I've installed (minus the custom Roms ) have been. If anyone here has suggested fix let me know... Otherwise. I'll create another thread so I don't hijack this one.
Thanks again
30mmrain said:
Good news this image worked! I am not on mpj25.139-64 :good: thanks.
Now on to the next problem... Relocking the bootloader. Ever since I unlocked it the first time... I have not been able to lock it. It errors out and asks for an official signed image. Which confuses me... Since ever one I've installed (minus the custom Roms ) have been. If anyone here has suggested fix let me know... Otherwise. I'll create another thread so I don't hijack this one.
Thanks again
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For that you have to install full stock/factory image which will re-lock your bootloader . But , that will erase all of your data . You can find tutorials on forum , no need to create another thread .
https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G4 (Plus)/Stock/
Mansuur said:
For that you have to install full stock/factory image which will re-lock your bootloader . But , that will erase all of your data . You can find tutorials on forum , no need to create another thread .
https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G4 (Plus)/Stock/
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When I was on mpj24.139-48... I tried flashing the full image downloaded from Motorola's site. Still ran into the same issue. I don't mind that it will wipe my data.
On that link you sent over. Which file to download? I see the xt1625 folder and I see the Amazon firmware in it... But I am unsure what the other firmware is. I also see the Athens mpj25.139-64 folder on the main page below. Which is the safe file?
Thanks
30mmrain said:
When I was on mpj24.139-48... I tried flashing the full image downloaded from Motorola's site. Still ran into the same issue. I don't mind that it will wipe my data.
On that link you sent over. Which file to download? I see the xt1625 folder and I see the Amazon firmware in it... But I am unsure what the other firmware is. I also see the Athens mpj25.139-64 folder on the main page below. Which is the safe file?
Thanks
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Try the the one with this name " XT1625-XT1644_ATHENE_RETUS_MPJ24.139-64_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip " .
Have you tried flashing through fastboot mode ?
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Try the the one with this name " XT1625-XT1644_ATHENE_RETUS_MPJ24.139-64_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip " .
Have you tried flashing through fastboot mode ?
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Yeah minus... The custom Roms that is where I have always been flashing. On the custom side of things I was using TWRP.
Alright... I will try flashing the file is suggest and I'll post back here shortly

Root/Downgrade LG V20 Verizon as of Sept. 2017?

Did some digging but couldn't find any useful information that is current regarding the Verizon LG V20 and rooting it.
I see there is a method for rooting firmware version 12a that supposedly works for version 13a but wouldn't know about that.
Does anyone know if it's possible to root the current version of the firmware? and where can I find a tutorial?
If not is it possible to downgrade from this version of the firmware to the latest rootable version and go from there?
My firmware version is VS99515A.
I'd really like to be able to unlock some features and get rid of the bloatware that is taking up quite a few GB's of space.
If not I'm not going to sweat it much as it's still a great device that would service my needs as is but of course if there is an option to have a better experience then I'll take it.
QwerkyPengwen said:
Did some digging but couldn't find any useful information that is current regarding the Verizon LG V20 and rooting it.
I see there is a method for rooting firmware version 12a that supposedly works for version 13a but wouldn't know about that.
Does anyone know if it's possible to root the current version of the firmware? and where can I find a tutorial?
If not is it possible to downgrade from this version of the firmware to the latest rootable version and go from there?
My firmware version is VS99515A.
I'd really like to be able to unlock some features and get rid of the bloatware that is taking up quite a few GB's of space.
If not I'm not going to sweat it much as it's still a great device that would service my needs as is but of course if there is an option to have a better experience then I'll take it.
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Would also like to know this as I would like the bluetooth fix updates as i'm still on 10b but still waiting for xposed to come out for nougat and don't want to lose my ability to root.
same
QwerkyPengwen said:
Did some digging but couldn't find any useful information that is current regarding the Verizon LG V20 and rooting it.
I see there is a method for rooting firmware version 12a that supposedly works for version 13a but wouldn't know about that.
Does anyone know if it's possible to root the current version of the firmware? and where can I find a tutorial?
If not is it possible to downgrade from this version of the firmware to the latest rootable version and go from there?
My firmware version is VS99515A.
I'd really like to be able to unlock some features and get rid of the bloatware that is taking up quite a few GB's of space.
If not I'm not going to sweat it much as it's still a great device that would service my needs as is but of course if there is an option to have a better experience then I'll take it.
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I would like to know about this too, I have the recent update and would like to know if I can downgrade with the lg flash tool and a link to a kdz that would work...
Therez no way with arb now implemented
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And all the big devs have left our device as i did too
QwerkyPengwen said:
Did some digging but couldn't find any useful information that is current regarding the Verizon LG V20 and rooting it.
I see there is a method for rooting firmware version 12a that supposedly works for version 13a but wouldn't know about that.
Does anyone know if it's possible to root the current version of the firmware? and where can I find a tutorial?
If not is it possible to downgrade from this version of the firmware to the latest rootable version and go from there?
My firmware version is VS99515A.
I'd really like to be able to unlock some features and get rid of the bloatware that is taking up quite a few GB's of space.
If not I'm not going to sweat it much as it's still a great device that would service my needs as is but of course if there is an option to have a better experience then I'll take it.
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lgup and uppercut, then get 13A or 13B i forgot the letter 13 somthing, then do the dirty santa, 15A was confired to be downgraded. if you like me to test it give me a week i got another v20 coming my way that has 15A on it
LASERWOLF452 said:
lgup and uppercut, then get 13A or 13B i forgot the letter 13 somthing, then do the dirty santa, 15A was confired to be downgraded. if you like me to test it give me a week i got another v20 coming my way that has 15A on it
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I was figuring this was the way based on some other places on the net. However I wasn't sure if 13a was properly supported for root or not. I know that 12a is. Any insight or confirmation that 13a is in fact rootable?
I came across the thread below and followed it but didnt pull the trigger because I didnt fully understand the process and if it was going to work. So im going to read this thread and see if I can make sense of things.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/restore-v20-to-100-stock-bricked-devices-t3524903
Don't think you have searched that hard...
All versions of Verizon firmware are downgradeable. This include everything from 11A to 16B. Yes, I have done it, multiple times. If you are on 14, 15, or 16 simply use uppercut to downgrade to either 12A or 13A. You can find the KDZ here:
https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-vs995-firmwares/
What about downgrading from 20C? Just bought this phone because the battery is removable but I must have root or all,is lost. :/
bond32 said:
Don't think you have searched that hard...
All versions of Verizon firmware are downgradeable. This include everything from 11A to 16B. Yes, I have done it, multiple times. If you are on 14, 15, or 16 simply use uppercut to downgrade to either 12A or 13A. You can find the KDZ here:
https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-vs995-firmwares/
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I cant get uppercut to work....do you know if its still working?
ELECTRIC1982 said:
I cant get uppercut to work....do you know if its still working?
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Use the LG V20 nodded LG UP in download mode
ELECTRIC1982 said:
What about downgrading from 20C? Just bought this phone because the battery is removable but I must have root or all,is lost. :/
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You have any luck? I just bought one with 20c and cant find info

Trying to update to Latest Firmware

I just bought a refurbished AT&T Galaxy S7 Edge and is on the May security update build G930AUCU4BQD4. I looked online and the latest build for the August security update is G930AUCU4BQG1. I go to check for updates and it tells me its up to date. Does anyone know how can I force the cell to download the update. I tried looking for an OTA file to use and flash from recovery, but no luck.
Thank you.
My first question is did you buy an Edge which is a 935 or the S7(Flat) which is the 930. Depending on that the next question is who is your carrier. If it is ATT then you should be able to OTA with no needed tinkering. If it is not ATT then you would have to sideload the ota zips via recovery. Plenty of links and descriptions on XDA for how to do that, but we need to know which phone it is first.
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My first question is did you buy an Edge which is a 935 or the S7(Flat) which is the 930. Depending on that the next question is who is your carrier. If it is ATT then you should be able to OTA with no needed tinkering. If it is not ATT then you would have to sideload the ota zips via recovery. Plenty of links and descriptions on XDA for how to do that, but we need to know which phone it is first.
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It's the 935 edge att, but not getting ota's. I did find the files to update, but I am not sure if it will delete restore the phone to factory.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/updates-g935a-servers-adb-sideloads-t3583165
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It's the 935 edge att, but not getting ota's. I did find the files to update, but I am not sure if it will delete restore the phone to factory.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/updates-g935a-servers-adb-sideloads-t3583165
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Sideloading WILL wipe the phone. I still am not clear on whether this is a 935a or a 935v with a fw. Also is your provider att. The only reason I am aware you would not get it's is of you flashed a leaked or beta fw that has no upgrade path. Try to Odin the full fw.

US996 Latest Firmware??

What is the latest US996 firmware? I found US99610o_01_0202.kdz with a date of 3/1/2018 on LG Firmwares.com. Of course I connect to LG Bridge but I never get an update there. Anyone using this?
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What is the latest US996 firmware? I found US99610o_01_0202.kdz with a date of 3/1/2018 on LG Firmwares.com. Of course I connect to LG Bridge but I never get an update there. Anyone using this?
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the firmware you listed was released by US Cellular for the US996, but since it's not showing for you in LG Bridge I'm guessing you have the unlocked US996? are you rooted as well?
Yes unlocked US996 but not rooted. I'm on build NRD90M, version US99610n showing Nov 6th security patch. I believe I got this firmware from the same site a few months back after I first bought the phone. Of course I didn't realize there are different US996 firmwares. What I'm running now has been flawless for months, I just don't know what the latest unlocked US996 firmware is. Any idea?
Hi rzracer2,
Did you ever get/find an answer to your question. I'm in the same boat. I have US 996 unlocked running build NRD90M. Software version is US99610d. Both UpdateCenter and LG bridge state I have the latest OS. On LG bridge it is confusing, after I click the OK accepting I already have the latest OS, what's on screen implies there is a newer version.
Seems like there is the US mobile firmware which have new versions, and then the unlocked which has pretty much been abandoned?! Pity, the whole reason I got the factory unlocked was so that I wouldn't be hostage to the carrier update schedule... sigh..
I don't know if this will be of any help............
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=257658
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I don't know if this will be of any help............
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=257658
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thanks! I'll look into it. With my previous phones, I used to flash custom roms, root the phone, etc... I got fed up with that and decided to go stock and factory unlocked so as to not deal with carrier bloatware/nonsense. That was the whole reason I got this phone. I was hoping to keep updated/hassle free with OTA updates. Looks like that is not the case and I'm back to flashing roms! Thanks LG!

How do I go from 7.0 with "U" software to 8.0?

I'm trying to wrap my head around all this, but my head is spinning. In December I was looking to get my S7 flat to 7.0 rooted. I discovered that root can only be achieved with eng kernel and that has its drawbacks. I decided I don't need/want root at that cost of stability, performance and battery life. Somehow I settled on installing a "U" variant that seemed to work well with less Verizon bloat. I couldn't get the S Health app and monitors on the back of the phone working, but I figured I could live with that. Recently I tried casting my phone to a Amazon Fire Stick and discovered the "Smart View" button is missing and I couldn't figure out how to get it back, so I might've lost that too. I also discovered in the past nine months Oreo is out with additional features and I figure if I'm going to go through the hassle of reinstalling, I might as well upgrade.
So, I hear root with Oreo is better than it's been, but not perfect, so I'l like to upgrade to unrooted oreo, either stock or debloated (if such a version exists without tradeoffs). Is there a certain version I'm supposed to go to so there's some flexibility in reinstalling the OS? Like I know sometimes versions of software are released that upgrade little, but patch exploits.
Also, if I do get whatever version of Oreo installed, do I then ignore OTA updates going forward? Is there any advantage to that?
And I can use the mobile hotspot feature. I don't think I have any special plan to accommodate that, nor do I have an unlimited plan (with Verizon). Is that intended, or is that from the "U" variant. Would I lose that?
My phone's info is below, if anyone can decipher what I did:
Model #: SM-G930U
Android Version: 7.0
Baseband Version: G930UUEU4BQE2
Kernel Version: 3.18.31
Build #: NRD90M.G930UUEU4BQE2
I apologize, I know my nomenclature isn't up to snuff. I realize that this stuff isn't for the casual user, at least on this phone. It's very hard to figure out what's current if you're not in the loop.
Thank you for any help you can offer.
If possible, I'd try just doing an Odin of the full Verzion equivalent to what you are on. That has the best chance of being compatible with the bootloader you are on. If not, you may have to downgrade to earlier U variant and then switch to equiv V variant. If I recall correctly the *BRA1 firmware intersected on all carrier releases. In my case in the past, I was on too new of an AT&T variant and it wouldn't let me switch because the model didn't match. I had to switch to the generic U variant and then go to Verizon variant after.
In your case I'd try either of these in full Odin form (and may need princecomsy Odin or other that will force it):
G930VVRS4BQC9 - Closest Verizon V variant firmware that is released same month as your current version (a couple weeks later)
G930VVRU4CRE5 - June 5th 2018 Verizon V variant firmware based on 8.0
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Alternatively I think you should be able to go to the latest U generic variant 8.0 firmware, whatever that would be. I think that's G930UUEU4CRG2 at the moment
djh816 said:
If possible, I'd try just doing an Odin of the full Verzion equivalent to what you are on. That has the best chance of being compatible with the bootloader you are on. If not, you may have to downgrade to earlier U variant and then switch to equiv V variant. If I recall correctly the *BRA1 firmware intersected on all carrier releases. In my case in the past, I was on too new of an AT&T variant and it wouldn't let me switch because the model didn't match. I had to switch to the generic U variant and then go to Verizon variant after.
In your case I'd try either of these in full Odin form (and may need princecomsy Odin or other that will force it):
G930VVRS4BQC9 - Closest Verizon V variant firmware that is released same month as your current version (a couple weeks later)
G930VVRU4CRE5 - June 5th 2018 Verizon V variant firmware based on 8.0
Edit:
Alternatively I think you should be able to go to the latest U generic variant 8.0 firmware, whatever that would be. I think that's G930UUEU4CRG2 at the moment
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Thank you for the reply! I really wasn't expecting any replies, there's just too much going on in my post.
I backed up everything tonight so when I flash it I can wipe everything and do it right. This sammobile site lists all the firmware updates and that helped somewhat demystify things. Is it true that the fifth digit from the right of build is the bootloader? If that's the case, does that mean I can install any version from the last MM update through the september oreo update and upgrade and downgrade between them without issue since they all have a "4" for that digit? Is the bootloader the thing that sometimes gets updated, preventing downgrades or is the baseband and modem also something that I need to consider. If I just install the latest verizon oreo update, am I limited in downgrading?
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s7/SM-G930V/
Umbra. said:
Thank you for the reply! I really wasn't expecting any replies, there's just too much going on in my post.
I backed up everything tonight so when I flash it I can wipe everything and do it right. This sammobile site lists all the firmware updates and that helped somewhat demystify things. Is it true that the fifth digit from the right of build is the bootloader? If that's the case, does that mean I can install any version from the last MM update through the september oreo update and upgrade and downgrade between them without issue since they all have a "4" for that digit? Is the bootloader the thing that sometimes gets updated, preventing downgrades or is the baseband and modem also something that I need to consider. If I just install the latest verizon oreo update, am I limited in downgrading?
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s7/SM-G930V/
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Purely anecdotal but in my case I think the newer version I had was the issue. I don't believe you are limited in downgrading if you have a full signed odin of your current model variant that you can downgrade too. I think the main issues come in when you are going from a different model and a newer/older firmware. If you are staying on latest G930V Verizon firmware for example, I believe you could downgrade as far back as needed with full Odin. Just not necessarily U variant firmware without finding the crossover point with that firmware (like AT&T and Verizon variants both on BRA1 firmware). I could be mistaken on the requirements but messing around with flashing an older rom with same 930 variant, then switching to a new variant from that may work. In my case I had to downgrade to BRA1 AT&T, then switch to BRA1 generic 930U, then switch to Verizon BRA1 930V. Also the stock version of Odin didn't like me switching variants but princecomsy version worked (not sure if that works well with new firmwares though). As you say though, there may be some limits in downgrading depending on what bootloader you are on. I don't think I've personally had a situation where I couldn't but with all those efuses out there who knows..But even then you should be able to pivot to another variant of similar release date
djh816 said:
Purely anecdotal but in my case I think the newer version I had was the issue. I don't believe you are limited in downgrading if you have a full signed odin of your current model variant that you can downgrade too. I think the main issues come in when you are going from a different model and a newer/older firmware. If you are staying on latest G930V Verizon firmware for example, I believe you could downgrade as far back as needed with full Odin. Just not necessarily U variant firmware without finding the crossover point with that firmware (like AT&T and Verizon variants both on BRA1 firmware). I could be mistaken on the requirements but messing around with flashing an older rom with same 930 variant, then switching to a new variant from that may work. In my case I had to downgrade to BRA1 AT&T, then switch to BRA1 generic 930U, then switch to Verizon BRA1 930V. Also the stock version of Odin didn't like me switching variants but princecomsy version worked (not sure if that works well with new firmwares though). As you say though, there may be some limits in downgrading depending on what bootloader you are on. I don't think I've personally had a situation where I couldn't but with all those efuses out there who knows..But even then you should be able to pivot to another variant of similar release date
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I don't still know about downgrading and switching, but I can live with that. I took the plunge and opted to install the latest Verizon firmware last night. Surprisingly I was able to just install it over the U firmware with basic Odin. I Then went into recovery and did a factory reset. It's gonna take awhile to set everything up how I like, but S Health works, I've got the Smart view toggle (didn't get to test it yet), mobile hotspot works, but I get some cool new features to explore (I especially like being to able to have more control over what notifications show for each app, instead of a blanket on/off). Not crazy about the new AOD font, but I'll get used to it. Thanks for nudging me in the right direction
Umbra. said:
I don't still know about downgrading and switching, but I can live with that. I took the plunge and opted to install the latest Verizon firmware last night. Surprisingly I was able to just install it over the U firmware with basic Odin. I Then went into recovery and did a factory reset. It's gonna take awhile to set everything up how I like, but S Health works, I've got the Smart view toggle (didn't get to test it yet), mobile hotspot works, but I get some cool new features to explore (I especially like being to able to have more control over what notifications show for each app, instead of a blanket on/off). Not crazy about the new AOD font, but I'll get used to it. Thanks for nudging me in the right direction
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Woo, welcome back to the walled garden lol.. BTW I found in the themes/lockscreen app (can't recall where) they had the old lockscreen font I preferred as a clock option

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