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I had my nexus side by side with a Droid last night. And I noticed that when the AMOLED screen on the nexus dims down. it gets REALLY red and distorts the contrast/colors alot.
Is this normal? When my brightness is at a normal setting it looks great. its only when it gets dim. Im a little concerned.
its fine, thats just how AMOLED displays work.
I can't agree that it's fine ... if colour infidelity is part and parcel of AMOLED then maybe HTC should reconsider their use of it. I notice the red tint at all brightness levels but it's most noticeable at the lowest level.
I always have the brightness at 0% and automatic to off when not plugged in. Don't see any severe redness.
well, I guess it's not normal , I got my frist one with dead pixel but the color is bright so I did a refund as they recomended and buy a second one but this one came with redish screen..... I did the comparison and the one with the dead pix is a lot more brighter , so my luck sucks
This is my second nexus, both have pinkish hue when on lowest brightness
I haven't noticed any red/pink issues at any brightness with my phone, but I haven't done any side-by-side comparisons.
Call HTC support and see if this is a known problem they fix or if it is just part of a normal working Nexus One.
It's a part of a normal Nexus One. My friend had the red / pinkish hue on his screen and called HTC for a replacement. Once the replacement came, it was exactly the same hue. But with 50% brightness, it isn't noticeable. However, I'm probably the lucky one because I don't experience the 'problem' with 0% brightness on my Nexus.
Some nexus one don't have the red tint, I got 2 nexus one and one have the other doesn't show any red tint even at lowest brightness. I guess its just difference screen from difference suppliers.
This is my second nexus, both have pinkish hue when on lowest brightness
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I agree with this completely.
My nexus 7 screen, when it's showing a certain kind of gray, the half right of the screen turns red pinkish in color. I could have swore it doesn't happen the first day I bought it. Is this a known defect as well? Or is this what people means when they say about back light bleeding?
I swear that didn't happen on 4.1.. Only start noticing it when I got the ota update to 4.1.1
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First picture shows what I meant by the color showing pinkish red (when the screen is a certain bit gray as compared to second picture) . It doesn't flicker at all.
Backlight bleed is when you can see uneven lighting along the edge(s) of the display when viewing a dark image, so no, you don't have backlight bleed. It seems like you do have a defective display though.
return it....
Wow.
Turns out the problem is with the kernel TS-ALPHA86-1700-484.
Gonna go ask morfic now
I read some posts regarding the light bleed in pure black screen under a dark environment with brightness set to 100%. However, My Nexus 7 (2013) doesn't show a serious problem in this condition but very noticeable at the top edge with other colors especially the grey and blue.
I took two shots here and do you guys think it is serious?
My Nexus 7 (2013) has been repaired for 4 times (The first time I have one dead pixel in the center of the screen) and I afraid if the Asus service center replaced a new LCD panel for me, it will have dead/stuck pixels again.
Katecca said:
I read some posts regarding the light bleed in pure black screen under a dark environment with brightness set to 100%. However, My Nexus 7 (2013) doesn't show a serious problem in this condition but very noticeable at the top edge with other colors especially the grey and blue.
I took two shots here and do you guys think it is serious?
My Nexus 7 (2013) has been repaired for 4 times (The first time I have one dead pixel in the center of the screen) and I afraid if the Asus service center replaced a new LCD panel for me, it will have dead/stuck pixels again.
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Katecca,
There will always be light bleed sooner or later. I had my N7 G1 and it light bleed too. It gets worse with time but are you going to keep staring at the corner of the screen while you play Real Racing 3? With light background colours you won't notice it. My N7 GII had excessive light bleed the first time I turned it on but after I put a colourful wallpaper you can't see it anymore. If everything is fine then there is no point in bringing it in to Asus for repair.
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Katecca,
There will always be light bleed sooner or later. I had my N7 G1 and it light bleed too. It gets worse with time but are you going to keep staring at the corner of the screen while you play Real Racing 3? With light background colours you won't notice it. My N7 GII had excessive light bleed the first time I turned it on but after I put a colourful wallpaper you can't see it anymore. If everything is fine then there is no point in bringing it in to Asus for repair.
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The lighter background color, the more noticeable light bleed. I tried RR3 and it is noticeable when I focused on the left edge.
fcng said:
Katecca,
There will always be light bleed sooner or later. I had my N7 G1 and it light bleed too. It gets worse with time but are you going to keep staring at the corner of the screen while you play Real Racing 3? With light background colours you won't notice it. My N7 GII had excessive light bleed the first time I turned it on but after I put a colourful wallpaper you can't see it anymore. If everything is fine then there is no point in bringing it in to Asus for repair.
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Actually light bleed doesn't get worse over time. Unless somehow your screen gets so hot that it melts the seal of the screen. Which then means light bleed is the last of your issues.
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So I exchanged my first Nexus 7 because 1 dead pixel (build date 2013.10), got my second one with horrible multitouch problems and several dead pixels (build date 2013.08), my third one with multitouch problems and 8 dead pixels! and dust under the screen (build date 2013.09) and now on my 4th one (build date 2013.10).
- no multitouch problems;
- hardware is perfect, no dust under screen, no scratches, nothing (the first nexus also had some dust under the front facing camera);
- no dead pixels;
- but...it has in my opinion al lot of screen bleeding
Now, the question is, should I return this unit, I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?
edit: the bleeding is always seen on a black background during the evening (when its dark with normal house lights on), not so much in daylight. However the bleeding is seen even on 20% or 30% brightness, only if I turn on the automatic brightness things get a little better and the bleeding is minimised to the point that I am less bothered by it. Ooh and when I look at it from a different (a rather extreme) angle it also changes, so I guess it is some sort of glow
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So I exchanged my first Nexus 7 because 1 dead pixel (build date 2013.10), got my second one with horrible multitouch problems and several dead pixels (build date 2013.08), my third one with multitouch problems and 8 dead pixels! and dust under the screen (build date 2013.09) and now on my 4th one (build date 2013.10).
- no multitouch problems;
- hardware is perfect, no dust under screen, no scratches, nothing (the first nexus also had some dust under the front facing camera);
- no dead pixels;
- but...it has in my opinion al lot of screen bleeding
Now, the question is, should I return this unit, I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?
edit: the bleeding is always seen on a black background during the evening (when its dark with normal house lights on), not so much in daylight. However the bleeding is seen even on 20% or 30% brightness, only if I turn on the automatic brightness things get a little better and the bleeding is minimised to the point that I am less bothered by it. Ooh and when I look at it from a different (a rather extreme) angle it also changes, so I guess it is some sort of glow
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Oh....c`mon dude...if you want perfect blacks buy something with AMOLED display.I had that backlight bleeding on my Nexus 4,LG G2,Acer CloudMobile and even on Nexus 7(2013).I think this is normal for IPS displays.It`s just my opinion.But i`ve never seen a IPS screen wich renders perfect blacks like AMOLED.On my Nexus 7(2013) the white spot on the black is not that evident.I will make some pictures when I get home and post them here just for comparison with your pictures.
Manco123 said:
So I exchanged my first Nexus 7 because 1 dead pixel (build date 2013.10), got my second one with horrible multitouch problems and several dead pixels (build date 2013.08), my third one with multitouch problems and 8 dead pixels! and dust under the screen (build date 2013.09) and now on my 4th one (build date 2013.10).
- no multitouch problems;
- hardware is perfect, no dust under screen, no scratches, nothing (the first nexus also had some dust under the front facing camera);
- no dead pixels;
- but...it has in my opinion al lot of screen bleeding
Now, the question is, should I return this unit, I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?
edit: the bleeding is always seen on a black background during the evening (when its dark with normal house lights on), not so much in daylight. However the bleeding is seen even on 20% or 30% brightness, only if I turn on the automatic brightness things get a little better and the bleeding is minimised to the point that I am less bothered by it. Ooh and when I look at it from a different (a rather extreme) angle it also changes, so I guess it is some sort of glow
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I have blb in the exact same spots as you, but its less bright and i can not even see it when in a dark room.
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Somehow I don't believe what you're saying.
That much light bleed on 30% brightness? I call bull**** sorry to say.
It's on 100% brightness and it's on a black screen, what the hell did you expected? It's native to IPS screens so either live with it or guy buy a Samsung Tab 7.3 for 250€ with it's amazing hardware and screen. NOT.
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Somehow I don't believe what you're saying.
That much light bleed on 30% brightness? I call bull**** sorry to say.
It's on 100% brightness and it's on a black screen, what the hell did you expected? It's native to IPS screens so either live with it or guy buy a Samsung Tab 7.3 for 250€ with it's amazing hardware and screen. NOT.
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Like I said in the first post "I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?"
The light bleed is indeed visible on 20% or 30% brightness, but of course less than with a 100% brightness. The problem is, everything besides auto-brightness makes it visible. Normally on my other android devices, I turn off auto brightness and leave the brightness on about 25% with the standard widget (with the half moon sign). But on my nexus, I can't do that. The statusbar is always washed out.
The first 3 units didn't have this much bleed, they had very little, not worth mentioning. Also, I am very aware of the fact what I can expect with IPS displays, AMOLED displays (like my galaxy nexus), TN displays (like in my Macbook) and PVA displays (like on my dell 2408fwp). The thing is, this light bleed on my nexus is very obvious and beyond normal. If the light bleed was not so visible under say 60%, I wouldn't care one bit.
The thing is I am very disappointed with the quality of the hardware. I have never in my life returned a gadget more than twice. Normally, if the first one wasn't good, the second one is almost certain perfect. Don't get me wrong, the nexus 7 is a awesome device! But these faulty units ruin it for me.
Maybe bad batch? Mine made in August 2013, nothing wrong
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Manco123 said:
Like I said in the first post "I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?"
The light bleed is indeed visible on 20% or 30% brightness, but of course less than with a 100% brightness. The problem is, everything besides auto-brightness makes it visible. Normally on my other android devices, I turn off auto brightness and leave the brightness on about 25% with the standard widget (with the half moon sign). But on my nexus, I can't do that. The statusbar is always washed out.
The first 3 units didn't have this much bleed, they had very little, not worth mentioning. Also, I am very aware of the fact what I can expect with IPS displays, AMOLED displays (like my galaxy nexus), TN displays (like in my Macbook) and PVA displays (like on my dell 2408fwp). The thing is, this light bleed on my nexus is very obvious and beyond normal. If the light bleed was not so visible under say 60%, I wouldn't care one bit.
The thing is I am very disappointed with the quality of the hardware. I have never in my life returned a gadget more than twice. Normally, if the first one wasn't good, the second one is almost certain perfect. Don't get me wrong, the nexus 7 is a awesome device! But these faulty units ruin it for me.
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I don't want to sound arrogant or an ass, but I'll tell you what the problem with these threads is(which are alot believe me), light bleed annoyance/any of the other known issues is a personal thing.
And, coming here asking for advice is worthless because it's subjective and won't resolve anything. Everything about your device is up to you or whoever else opens a thread. If you find it bothering, go trade it until you get a unit working fine. Afterall, you payed and you have the right to have a fully working device. If it doesn't bother you that much, don't trade but and don't open a thread about it.
It won't change a thing, whatever people tell you it won't mater.
Good luck.
Hey, I had had 3 Nexus 7 2013s and all of them had light bleed. Even my iPhone 5 (bring on the hate bc i honestly hate my iPhone) has mild light bleed at 100% brightness on boot animation. My father had a Galaxy Note and he was used to flawless blacks and when he got an Xperia SP, he watches badminton matches at night and on loading screens, light leaked out from the sides. He went to Sony but they dismissed the problem
You have to decide how much it bothers you. It's much more than mine (100% bright), but my touch screen isn't what I'd like (like my N5 or even my old Toshiba Thrive).
EDIT: This pic taken of the N7 with my N5 should show better. It is a black background with 100% brightness. Only slight bit of bleed across the top.
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You have to decide how much it bothers you. It's much more than mine (100% bright), but my touch screen isn't what I'd like (like my N5 or even my old Toshiba Thrive).
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You aren't supposed to take a screenshot. You're supposed to put your phone in a dark room and display a fully black pic at 100% brightness
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That was a screenshot of Backlight Bleed test at 100% brightness in a darkroom. I understand that maybe the "screenshot" concept prevented light bleed from showing although both look the same. I'll fix it and re-up or remove it.
I'm hearing a lot of different stories regarding the screen turning heavily pink when the brightness is at its lowest.
Thought i'd make a poll to see how many people are affected, then we can hopefully gather its its a hardware defect.
No pink here, even using an app that takes it lower than stock.
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I'd say it's more purple than pink but yes I have it. Same thing when I had a Galaxy S4. I'm pretty sure they're using the same AMOLED tech, which is a shame but yeah.
spunkfaucet666 said:
I'd say it's more purple than pink but yes I have it. Same thing when I had a Galaxy S4. I'm pretty sure they're using the same AMOLED tech, which is a shame but yeah.
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No pink here, even using an app that takes it lower than stock.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Make sure to actually vote guys, would help out a bunch
I have had two 6's and sent the first back because of the pink issue. 2nd phone is still pink below 1/3 brightness slider, just not as pink as the first. Called Google and talked with a hardware tech and they said it was part of the performance of the screen, and just to keep it above 1/3 brightness (wack). Both phones I had only turned pink with adaptive brightness on and the slider below 1/3 in a dark room. In normal lighting it doesn't seem to dim into the "pink" range.
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I have had two 6's and sent the first back because of the pink issue. 2nd phone is still pink below 1/3 brightness slider, just not as pink as the first. Called Google and talked with a hardware tech and they said it was part of the performance of the screen, and just to keep it above 1/3 brightness (wack). Both phones I had only turned pink with adaptive brightness on and the slider below 1/3 in a dark room. In normal lighting it doesn't seem to dim into the "pink" range.
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Same. I use adaptive brightness. My grays have a pinkish hue at very low brightness settings. Doesn't bother me, don't usually have brightness so low.
Just part of being an early adopter, I suppose. Not that big a deal to me, but I can see how others might be upset. It's my first phone of this caliber so I'm still totally stoked with it.
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My device turns pink with adaptive on in a dark room. Also without adaptive only when the screen is just about to turn off.
Mine does this of course, because it is something that happens with every AMOLED phone I can think of. It was something I forgot about of course being on a phone with a regular LCD screen for the last year, but as soon as I got my Nexus 6 I remembered about this little quirk of AMOLED. Hopefully custom kernels can minimize how much we notice it with custom color calibration.
Mine is also much more purple than pink, if it is actually a really pink color them maybe something is wrong, IDK. My purple tint doesnt start to happen till I am about 25% of the way down the brightness slider. All the way down and the screen is very heavily tinted purple. But that is too dark to see with anyway so I never turn things down low enough to make things look bad enough that I would actually care about. The screen look beautiful in any normal lighting conditions. I just think of it as a "night time feature" to be easier on tired eyes. lol.
Wasn't this talked about before release? I thought it was part of the brightness setting and to make it more of a battery saver?
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On... So if I jack my brightness down, it gets a little pink. Whoopty-do... Why care? It looks fine at whatever brightness I use and I've never expected a display to look perfect when it's almost off. It's not some damning evidence that the thing is low rent.
Everyone's looking to complain. Omg, If I click on back 19 times while shaking the phone and switching back and forth into chrome, I drop a frame.... A $650 shouldn't do that!
Smh
Oh I'm not looking to complain at all, I just wanted to see if it's something everyone had or not.
I've just heard so much Conflicting info on this it's driving g me nuts... Either way, I'm super excited about getting it ?
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... Either way, I'm super excited about getting it ?
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You should, it's a great phone. But like every other phone out there, there will be some that have issues and others that are just here to stir the pot.
Heck, I thought it was a feature to make it easier to read text with the brightness super low...
*shrug*
Well, I guess if it's a bug I am glad I got a bad one. Sure as heck not sending it back with the PVS 13. With my luck I'd end up with a 2.
My 2014 Moto X screen turns pink when I crank the brightness down also on lollipop. I think it's due to the AMOLED screen because I can do the same to my N7 and it doesn't turn pink. I've noticed on lollipop that the screen can be made a lot dimmer than on kk
This is all due to amoled folks. And partly how it is calibrated. But it is an inherent quality in these display panels. As long as it's not pink at your "normal" viewing brightness then :thumbup:
Sorry my screen is pretty:good:
One thing I have noticed is that with adaptive brightness on...if I turn my brightness all the way down I do see tint pinkish hue. If I turn my adaptive brightness off and turn my brightness all the way down...I don't have a pinkish tint on the screen.
Anyone else's screen reacts this way?
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I've been reading about this issue all over. Maybe I lucked out but I don't have the pink issue at all.
gruppe3942 said:
One thing I have noticed is that with adaptive brightness on...if I turn my brightness all the way down I do see tint pinkish hue. If I turn my adaptive brightness off and turn my brightness all the way down...I don't have a pinkish tint on the screen.
Anyone else's screen reacts this way?
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Yeah mine does. Lol I am now learning that adaptive is not the same as auto-brightness. But seems like with adaptive on it keeps the screen a bit darker than without. I noticed with the slider maxed out or turned all the way down it gets much brighter and dimmer respectively with it off.
Gorjira said:
I've been reading about this issue all over. Maybe I lucked out but I don't have the pink issue at all.
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If you turn adaptive on, and manually turn the brightness all the way down (something you would likely never do in real word use) you will see it. Even in a dark room I don't see it since my display is still bright enough to stay over the threshold where this phenomenon manifests. If I go lower the brightness way down however, it appears.