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Different model numbers

Are A2017(Chinese) , A2017U(US) and A2017G(Global) three different device model numbers (hardware wise)?
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Are they three different firmware numbers that can be flashed on same hardware device?

They are different devices for different regions

And with the locked bootloader they aren't able to be flashed to different region.
Each have different bands for phone too...

silverxbv2 said:
They are different devices for different regions
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Thank you for the quick response.
So I presume the A2017G global firmware cannot be flashed on c Hines model A2017.
I am planning to buy the chinese model A2017 for use in Singapore. I Have verified that it does support the LTE network bands used by Singapore telcos. The seller on aliexpress confirmed that it will work in singapore and has English language and all Google apps
Would that be a wise thing to do or should I buy the global device model A2017G?
Would you happen to know out of A2017 and A2017G, which model has better
Dev support on xda? (From the perspective of rooting, unlocking, AOSP Roms etc)

darshanoza said:
Are A2017(Chinese) , A2017U(US) and A2017G(Global) three different device model numbers (hardware wise)?
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Are they three different firmware numbers that can be flashed on same hardware device?
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Both.
Hardware-wise, the three models are banded differently, and support different cellular connections. For example, the US and China models have CDMA support, while the Global model is not banded for CDMA. The three models have differing LTE bands as well (US model tailored to LTE bands used in North America, Global model tailored to bands used in Europe/Asia, etc).
Software-wise, they're pretty similar, but there are some differences. For example, the Global model has lowered audio output (compared to US model) potentially due to EU regulations. On the flip-side, the Global model has a special menu option for "Glove Mode", to make the phone easier to use when you're wearing gloves, which is omitted from the US model. The US model has an included theme called "Stock Android", which is missing from the China and Global models. The China model does not come with Google Play services by default, because China.
Support-wise, ZTE USA has a community forum that employees participate in to answer questions and whatnot, as does ZTE China. ZTE Europe, however, does not seem to, and can only be contacted via phone/email.
Someone here on XDA was able to flash the Global model's ROM on a US model, but had to specifically flash the US model's modem in order to get cellular working. However, it might have been because the US model can be bootloader unlocked, so the US model can be flashed with other ROMs. The Global and China models don't have official bootloader unlock yet (I'm not entirely sure if the unofficial method posted here on XDA works on the Global and China models)

Thank you for the detailed response. Much appreciated.

Does anyone has any pictures with that stock Android theme?
Sent from my ZTE A2017G using Tapatalk

razorsbk said:
Does anyone has any pictures with that stock Android theme?
Sent from my ZTE A2017G using Tapatalk
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Search for Axon 7 reviews on Youtube. Any review that shows a white Android app drawer icon in the middle of the nav bar is a US unit using the Stock Android theme.

Damn I'd love that stock interface. Now I'm running Pixel Launcher.
Sent from my ZTE A2017G using Tapatalk

Unlocked version and updates
Does anyone know if I buy the US unlocked version will be updated depending on carrier or ZTE updates push ? Sorry for the ignorance I'm just new on this... Thanks in advance

Filter182 said:
Does anyone know if I buy the US unlocked version will be updated depending on carrier or ZTE updates push ? Sorry for the ignorance I'm just new on this... Thanks in advance
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From Zte.

Nougat for SM-G930U firmware?

I'm on a Verizon s7 g930V running Samsung's stock firmware g930U and I've read that the phones bought through Samsung (so no carrier to go through) are getting Nougat OTA already.
I'm rooted, so it obviously gets mad if I try to check for an OTA, but should I unroot and check for a nougat OTA?
Do we know of anyone trying this successfully?
Does a Nougat Odin install package exist somewhere with "g930u" in the beginning of the filename?
Let me know if I should bother guinnea pigging on this one.

No need, I just checked and there's no update. Nothing online about it either. Seems only the international models are getting 7.0 at this time.

930/935 U is on quarterly updates. There will likely be no Nougat till April at the earliest.

so is there any possible way of running nougat on sm-g30u?
am i able to flash sm-g30f firmware on this to get nougat or is this not possible as they are different models?

[email protected] said:
so is there any possible way of running nougat on sm-g30u?
am i able to flash sm-g30f firmware on this to get nougat or is this not possible as they are different models?
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The F model is the international version and it is not compatible with the US unlocked S7. You can however flash any US carrier version firmware on the the SM-G930U.

thanks, are they any known issues in smg930u like the ones i raised earlier?
seems very buggy in australia. Microphone is also recording muffled and louspeaker calls echo on my listeners end and no noise cancellation

getting frustrated with the device, network is bad, any possible way of flashing the baseband from a sm-g30F to a SM-G930U?
I need the network more reliable. Now i regret not checking the model number before buying the phone

nrage23 said:
The F model is the international version and it is not compatible with the US unlocked S7. You can however flash any US carrier version firmware on the the SM-G930U.
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EDIT: Neverfmind, figured it out.

International Firmware

Before I start, this is the first android phone I've ever owned so the question may or may not be stupid.
So I live in India and I saw the trade-in deal for the S8. I was in need of an upgrade (iPhone 6) so I went for it as I was heading to the U.S soon. I heard that the international version gets updates sooner than the unlocked U.S version. Can I just change my firmware to international, get earlier updates with no drawback? If yes then why have I not seen a lot on this?

Pretty sure the firmware is locked to the device unless you root. I had an unlocked international S6(920?F) . It updated a lot earlier than the W released in Canada.
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ExLite23 said:
Before I start, this is the first android phone I've ever owned so the question may or may not be stupid.
So I live in India and I saw the trade-in deal for the S8. I was in need of an upgrade (iPhone 6) so I went for it as I was heading to the U.S soon. I heard that the international version gets updates sooner than the unlocked U.S version. Can I just change my firmware to international, get earlier updates with no drawback? If yes then why have I not seen a lot on this?
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If the device you get is G950F (international) then updates will come sooner. If you get any other version they are for specific regions, so if you get G950U (US unlocked) you can't flash international firmware to it. Can only flash firmware for the model you get.

callumbr1 said:
If the device you get is G950F (international) then updates will come sooner. If you get any other version they are for specific regions, so if you get G950U (US unlocked) you can't flash international firmware to it. Can only flash firmware for the model you get.
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Then what are the benefits of people switching carriers for example? There seem to be a bunch of threads giving a tutorial on how to change firmware to different carries e.g. From a T Mobile to Unlocked.

ExLite23 said:
Then what are the benefits of people switching carriers for example? There seem to be a bunch of threads giving a tutorial on how to change firmware to different carries e.g. From a T Mobile to Unlocked.
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For stuff like WiFi calling, voLTE, removal of bloat some csc tweaks

Guess that's unfortunate.

Not getting S8 software updates and getting errors (urgent) help plss

I bought my s8 today. I am on security patch of April. Whenever i tap on software update it says latest software already installed. My brother's s8 on the other hand is on October security patch. When i try to use Bixby voice it says update software to latest to use it. Pics below.
[Bixby error](https://i.imgur.com/Pz1CT6j.png)
[Message that already have latest software](https://i.imgur.com/A9BveEZ.png)
[Phone model](https://i.imgur.com/MJ7IxfF.png)
[Software info](https://i.imgur.com/8Kqmhz9.jpg)

same boat
What kind of s8? Is it through a carrier? I have the same problem with AT&T branded. I called AT&T and after they tried to push the update to my phone after getting my IMEI and SIM info verified, nothing happened. They referred me to Samsung. Samsung said I could drive to a Best Buy an hour a way and they could load the latest software in the store. In other words, no one really is accepting responsibility for it. I am basically at the point now where I've decided to flash the updates myself.

mhh84 said:
What kind of s8? Is it through a carrier? I have the same problem with AT&T branded. I called AT&T and after they tried to push the update to my phone after getting my IMEI and SIM info verified, nothing happened. They referred me to Samsung. Samsung said I could drive to a Best Buy an hour a way and they could load the latest software in the store. In other words, no one really is accepting responsibility for it. I am basically at the point now where I've decided to flash the updates myself.
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I have identified the issue. My S8 is on UK firmware whereas my brother's is on Indian cuz he got dual sim. Is there any way to update to a global firmware or a firmware that gets updates everytime?

Netherdrake034 said:
I have identified the issue. My S8 is on UK firmware whereas my brother's is on Indian cuz he got dual sim. Is there any way to update to a global firmware or a firmware that gets updates everytime?
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I'm by no means an expert, but as I understand it, all carrier branded updates go from Samsung to the carriers and from the carriers to your phone. Only unlocked comes from Samsung to you. (anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
If your carrier isn't pushing the update to you it could be because the carrier is not sending you the update because of the SIM issue if there's a mismatch in their system. There may be other reasons too, but that seems to be a common one.
Otherwise if you want to update firmware and it's not being sent to your phone, I believe the only alternative is doing it yourself. Check this forum for more advice.

Netherdrake034 said:
I have identified the issue. My S8 is on UK firmware whereas my brother's is on Indian cuz he got dual sim. Is there any way to update to a global firmware or a firmware that gets updates everytime?
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That firmware AQDG is old, from like April this year. You can download a different firmware or an updated UK firmware from updato.com and update with Odin. Knox will not be tripped.

LG G6 Using different KDZ's

I'm new to the LG Ecosystem and I have a few questions.
I have an LG G6 H870 from Entel in Chile, its currently on Android 7.
1) Can I flash it to something like the OPEN EU images which are newer?
Because they're all H870's are they the exact same hardware, meaning the functionality on different H870 kdzs should work fine? The Entel doesnt even have a 2018 release yet so I don't have great confidence they will update the LG G6.
2) Does flashing a KDZ affect the boot loader?
If I unlocked the bootloader for rooting would flashing the KDZ back reset it back to locked?
3) Is it safe to flash a KDZ via a virtual machine? The LG Bridge app wont detect my phone on Mac no matter what I try (High Sierra), (adb is fine iv tried the drivers etc), however it shows up when I connect it to a Windows 7 VM.
4) Is it likely that when the official Oreo 8.1 update comes it would be better to switch to something like an OPEN EU or UK image?
Or even just flash the new 8.1 KDZ when its available?
5) If I rooted and flashed something like LineageOS, can I easily go back to any of the KDZs with the LG tool?
I noticed theres an "error link which seems to download a KDZ for resetting your phone. Does that work off some kind of internal hardware serial, meaning that if things are ever soft-bricked I could just hit that button and go back to square one no problems?
6) Anything else I should be aware of or concerned about if I want to play with flashing different KDZs or custom roms? I dont care about warranty e.g. unlocked bootloader.
7) Whats the best tool for unlocking bootloader and gaining root these days, I know theres a tonne of AIO tools and things like KingRoot. Any suggestions from other LG G6 modders?

madhavajay said:
I'm new to the LG Ecosystem and I have a few questions.
I have an LG G6 H870 from Entel in Chile, its currently on Android 7.
1) Can I flash it to something like the OPEN EU images which are newer?
Because they're all H870's are they the exact same hardware, meaning the functionality on different H870 kdzs should work fine? The Entel doesnt even have a 2018 release yet so I don't have great confidence they will update the LG G6.
2) Does flashing a KDZ affect the boot loader?
If I unlocked the bootloader for rooting would flashing the KDZ back reset it back to locked?
3) Is it safe to flash a KDZ via a virtual machine? The LG Bridge app wont detect my phone on Mac no matter what I try (High Sierra), (adb is fine iv tried the drivers etc), however it shows up when I connect it to a Windows 7 VM.
4) Is it likely that when the official Oreo 8.1 update comes it would be better to switch to something like an OPEN EU or UK image?
Or even just flash the new 8.1 KDZ when its available?
5) If I rooted and flashed something like LineageOS, can I easily go back to any of the KDZs with the LG tool?
I noticed theres an "error link which seems to download a KDZ for resetting your phone. Does that work off some kind of internal hardware serial, meaning that if things are ever soft-bricked I could just hit that button and go back to square one no problems?
6) Anything else I should be aware of or concerned about if I want to play with flashing different KDZs or custom roms? I dont care about warranty e.g. unlocked bootloader.
7) Whats the best tool for unlocking bootloader and gaining root these days, I know theres a tonne of AIO tools and things like KingRoot. Any suggestions from other LG G6 modders?
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1) If it's just an "H870" than yes, it should be fine.
2) You cannot unlock the bootloader. Only unbranded US997 and European H870 can.
3) Never tried, it should, but in this i cannot give you a certain answer.
4) 8.1? We don't know it'll be 8.1. Anyway it's always better to flash the right firmware for your region.
5) You cannot do any kind of modding on your device atm, see the 2nd answer.
6) Flashing a wrong kdz could hard brick your device, so be careful on names. For the warranty you're good to go, you cannot do any kind of modding.
7) For G6 there is no "best" tool, there is only ONE way to unlock the bootloader but it won't work on your model (as explained in the 2nd answer), other tools like KingRoot don't work at all.
Bonus answer: No, flashing an european firmware won't allow you to unlock the bootloader.

Sorry for the noob question, it's probably been asked on here, but have not been able to find a solid answer. I have a US Cellular LG G6, which by now I know bootloader can't be unlocked. But, is there any way to update to Android Oreo? Currently on Android Nougat 7.0. thanks in advance.

FrankoHN said:
Sorry for the noob question, it's probably been asked on here, but have not been able to find a solid answer. I have a US Cellular LG G6, which by now I know bootloader can't be unlocked. But, is there any way to update to Android Oreo? Currently on Android Nougat 7.0. thanks in advance.
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Yes if you use non-UScellular US997 KDZ (21B is latest) US99721b_00_0823.kdz
https://lg-firmwares.com/downloads-file/16302/US997U21b_00_0823.kdz

HueyT said:
Yes if you use non-UScellular US997 KDZ (21B is latest) US99721b_00_0823.kdz
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Thanks. I just want to be sure before flashing any firmware, don't want to brick my phone :crying:

FrankoHN said:
Thanks. I just want to be sure before flashing any firmware, don't want to brick my phone :crying:
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See this KDZ guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295

FrankoHN said:
Sorry for the noob question, it's probably been asked on here, but have not been able to find a solid answer. I have a US Cellular LG G6, which by now I know bootloader can't be unlocked. But, is there any way to update to Android Oreo? Currently on Android Nougat 7.0. thanks in advance.
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I have found out the hard way that there are several versions of the model US997 variant of the LG G6:
https: //lg-firmwares.c o m/lg-us997-firmwares/firmwares/
(I apologize that the forum's spam filters are preventing me from posting a working link. Just take out the spaces.)
There is a USA unlocked version, two US cellular versions, two "Brightpoint" versions (whatever that is), and an Amazon version. And they all share the same model number. This is quite confusing because with most phones, usually there is only one version per model number. If your phone is stuck on Android Nougat, chances are you're like me and you're on the USA unlocked version of this phone, not the US Cellular version. The US Cellular and Brightspot versions have all been updated to Oreo and the latest update was in September 2018.
I have no idea why LG isn't upgrading the USA unlocked version. It was very frustrating when I bought it used and found out it was still stuck on Nougat, which I was not expecting.

midtempo said:
I have found out the hard way that there are several versions of the model US997 variant of the LG G6:
https: //lg-firmwares.c o m/lg-us997-firmwares/firmwares/
(I apologize that the forum's spam filters are preventing me from posting a working link. Just take out the spaces.)
There is a USA unlocked version, two US cellular versions, two "Brightpoint" versions (whatever that is), and an Amazon version. And they all share the same model number. This is quite confusing because with most phones, usually there is only one version per model number. If your phone is stuck on Android Nougat, chances are you're like me and you're on the USA unlocked version of this phone, not the US Cellular version. The US Cellular and Brightspot versions have all been updated to Oreo and the latest update was in September 2018.
I have no idea why LG isn't upgrading the USA unlocked version. It was very frustrating when I bought it used and found out it was still stuck on Nougat, which I was not expecting.
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Just use the US997 and NOT US997U and it'll work perfectly on non-US-Cellular or US-Cellular KDZ. 21B is latest Oreo

midtempo said:
I have found out the hard way that there are several versions of the model US997 variant of the LG G6:
https: //lg-firmwares.c o m/lg-us997-firmwares/firmwares/
(I apologize that the forum's spam filters are preventing me from posting a working link. Just take out the spaces.)
There is a USA unlocked version, two US cellular versions, two "Brightpoint" versions (whatever that is), and an Amazon version. And they all share the same model number. This is quite confusing because with most phones, usually there is only one version per model number. If your phone is stuck on Android Nougat, chances are you're like me and you're on the USA unlocked version of this phone, not the US Cellular version. The US Cellular and Brightspot versions have all been updated to Oreo and the latest update was in September 2018.
I have no idea why LG isn't upgrading the USA unlocked version. It was very frustrating when I bought it used and found out it was still stuck on Nougat, which I was not expecting.
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Actually the US Unlocked version has gotten the update and it's bootloader unlockable... My phone is the US997Z which is the US Cellular version. I believe you have to be connected to their service to be able to receive the update through their towers. I went ahead a upgraded my LG G6 with the US unlocked version kdz as the @HueyT mentions above. Update went great using LG up and uppercut no set back going through the update. If you need help I would happily help you out. Because I was in the same boat as you.

FrankoHN said:
Actually the US Unlocked version has gotten the update and it's bootloader unlockable... My phone is the US997Z which is the US Cellular version. I believe you have to be connected to their service to be able to receive the update through their towers. I went ahead a upgraded my LG G6 with the US unlocked version kdz as the @HueyT mentions above. Update went great using LG up and uppercut no set back going through the update. If you need help I would happily help you out. Because I was in the same boat as you.
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It's very strange that some versions of the LG G6 "US997" are not updated to Oreo yet and other ones with this version are. But if there is anyone out there reading this, you know know there is a workaround and you can force your computer to update the firmware on your LG G6 with the official LG ROM that runs Android Oreo.
For the $254 I paid for this phone used, with a case and the original charger, I can live with a phone that I have to update manually if I won't get OTA updates for some reason. And I did not break the phone's security because I'm still able to use Google Pay and online banking.