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roku-like audiocast to phone / headphones

Hey all.
I found a rather dirty hack that seems to work better than Bluetooth audio for listening to private audio from the firetv.
Installing bubbleupnp works good on my phone for audio casting to xbmc, so I tried the same on the firetv in reverse.
I had the xposed installer already on the firetv for llama support, so all I needed was to install the bubbleupnp app and bubbleupnp module in xposed.
Experimenting, I played from xbmc to my bubbleupnp app on my phone and it worked. There was a little delay, but it was more constant than the delay that BT headphones have with the firetv. Adjusting the delay on the xbmc app, and I had my private audio. I hadn't tried with any of the other video apps on the firetv, but I'm thinking the delay will be there. At least I can use it for xbmc.
Just wanted to put that out there. Hopefully a better option for sending and listening to audio will come out soon.

t3ch42 said:
Hey all.
I found a rather dirty hack that seems to work better than Bluetooth audio for listening to private audio from the firetv.
Installing bubbleupnp works good on my phone for audio casting to xbmc, so I tried the same on the firetv in reverse.
I had the xposed installer already on the firetv for llama support, so all I needed was to install the bubbleupnp app and bubbleupnp module in xposed.
Experimenting, I played from xbmc to my bubbleupnp app on my phone and it worked. There was a little delay, but it was more constant than the delay that BT headphones have with the firetv. Adjusting the delay on the xbmc app, and I had my private audio. I hadn't tried with any of the other video apps on the firetv, but I'm thinking the delay will be there. At least I can use it for xbmc.
Just wanted to put that out there. Hopefully a better option for sending and listening to audio will come out soon.
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so with what you did is, you basically had the audio stream of a video playing on your phone? I have already installed bubbleupnp on both my note 3 and the fire tv (xposed module on both devices too)but im clueless as to how to make this work. all i have managed is to cast audio(but only music and not video) from my phone to the fire tv, or initiate a video from the fire tv to start playing on my phone, making the fire tv a large remote and my phone the video player lol.
thing is I've never used bubbleupnp before so this whole casting thing is new to me. Maybe you are able to give more details as to what you did? what you set the renderer and library to on both your phone and the tv? Would gladly appreciate it as this is the last piece of the puzzle for me as to configuring the fire tv. would really like xbmc to play the video while my phone plays the audio!! thx!!

Exactly as you said it.
Set bubbleupnp to audiocast to my phone.
Listen on my phone.
Get frustrated because bubbleupnp won't ever change their design to be able to sync. Apparently, the delay is inevitable. Not sure why, as allshare seems to have it figured out.
I'm going to give up on this, as I've had no luck from this method. Will wait to see if a BT ad2p(?) Receiver Profile can be used with phones.

t3ch42 said:
Exactly as you said it.
Set bubbleupnp to audiocast to my phone.
Listen on my phone.
Get frustrated because bubbleupnp won't ever change their design to be able to sync. Apparently, the delay is inevitable. Not sure why, as allshare seems to have it figured out.
I'm going to give up on this, as I've had no luck from this method. Will wait to see if a BT ad2p(?) Receiver Profile can be used with phones.
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You know what im doing now? I play the movie using xbmc, but also start the movie playback on my phone using mx player.But mx player has the capability to only play the audio with the screen off, so thats what im doing now. Its easy enough to get the audio synced, and the batt drain isnt too bad, 16% for 130 minutes movie (DTS downmixing). a 40 minutes itunes web dl would consume about 4% if its on AC3, but i presume it would be very similar even if it was just AAC.
Until a more seamless method comes out, this is what im gonna be doing, as its easy enough, and no extra purchase required

ars_92 said:
You know what im doing now? I play the movie using xbmc, but also start the movie playback on my phone using mx player.But mx player has the capability to only play the audio with the screen off, so thats what im doing now. Its easy enough to get the audio synced, and the batt drain isnt too bad, 16% for 130 minutes movie (DTS downmixing). a 40 minutes itunes web dl would consume about 4% if its on AC3, but i presume it would be very similar even if it was just AAC.
Until a more seamless method comes out, this is what im gonna be doing, as its easy enough, and no extra purchase required
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Lol...
I've played around like that in the past. It does put more load on your network and hard drives though. Tolerable but unfortunate.
I'm giving BT another try. Picked up a car mp3 3.5mm out unit from amazon for $8.50 or so that I'll be able to sync up easily enough. i can plug my own headphones up and plug it into the USB chargers at my bed. I'll see how that works. Hopefully this will be an option.

How nice would it have been if they just gave the headphone out thru remote capability like the roku 3....sigh
Do update on how well your new plan goes. Thanks!
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Any update or progress on development of using bluetooth headphones without sync issues?

When you guys described the worsening audio offset which cannot be corrected because it keeps getting worse over time, how long does it take to see it noticeably worsened?
The reason i am asking is I finally was able to install Settings.apk and paired my bluetooth headphones (Noontec Zoro wireless BT headphones).
When I played a movie in XBMC, I didn't think the audio offset was that bad. Better yet, I didn't notice that it worsened over time. I watched it for over 20 minutes and didn't notice any change. I did a manual offset of .4 sec to compensate and it seemed fine after 20 minutes or so. Will I notice it after more time?
The only thing on my config that might be different than others is that in XBMC 13.1 Gotham stable release, is that I have Hardware acceleration enabled but I unchecked both Mediacodec and libstagefright (it is the only way that I can watch xvid without stutter and doesn't seem to affect mp4 h264 movies). Maybe someone else can try this?
Also, movies I played on Plex shows the same...small lag but somewhat tolerable and it didn't seem to get worse over time, but I only did this for about 5 minutes.

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Any update or progress on development of using bluetooth headphones without sync issues?
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Have had pretty good luck with xbmc 13.2 beta rc1.
Am using this BT adapter but only have a few issues now. This syncs up to the fire TV and the audio stays in sync with xbmc.
As I stated in my review, the channels are reversed. Not a real big deal as I can switch my headphones manually to the other ear. After checking my son's BT headphones too, I'm beginning to think all the Chinese imports have their audio connections backwards.
As I watch the show tonight, I can say that the BT alternative is working pretty good. I've had it set forward about 0.2sec ahead and it was quite tolerable. Seems to be getting better. Maybe next update will fix it.
Anybody else had any better luck?

t3ch42 said:
Have had pretty good luck with xbmc 13.2 beta rc1.
Am using this BT adapter but only have a few issues now. This syncs up to the fire TV and the audio stays in sync with xbmc.
As I stated in my review, the channels are reversed. Not a real big deal as I can switch my headphones manually to the other ear. After checking my son's BT headphones too, I'm beginning to think all the Chinese imports have their audio connections backwards.
As I watch the show tonight, I can say that the BT alternative is working pretty good. I've had it set forward about 0.2sec ahead and it was quite tolerable. Seems to be getting better. Maybe next update will fix it.
Anybody else had any better luck?
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So where do you plug this into? The USB port of the AFTV? how do you pair it?

superflysocal said:
So where do you plug this into? The USB port of the AFTV? how do you pair it?
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Its a simple little BT receiver that allows a 1/8” headphone jack or jumper to plug into your car aux. It has a battery which lasts three or so hours with headphones plugged in.
To sync, turn on the switch and search with your phone, firetv or whatever you have with BT audio. It automatically connects. Simple. Cheap.

I actually use a pair cheapo 2.4ghz headphones I got as a gift. None audio sync issues I had using a bluetooth transmitter. I just plug it into either the headphone port on the bedroom tv or on the av receiver when I watch in the living room when I can't sleep.
these look nice
The JBL WR2.4 looks nice for under $50 at Amazon

goodhur said:
I actually use a pair cheapo 2.4ghz headphones I got as a gift. None audio sync issues I had using a bluetooth transmitter. I just plug it into either the headphone port on the bedroom tv or on the av receiver when I watch in the living room when I can't sleep.
these look nice
The JBL WR2.4 looks nice for under $50 at Amazon
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Most tv now a day doesn't have headphone jack.
Some of us don't have receiver in bedroom tv

superflysocal said:
Most tv now a day doesn't have headphone jack.
Some of us don't have receiver in bedroom tv
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My bedroom TV has a headphone port the side and no av receiver. That tv is technically a computer monitor with hdmi and a tuner. So that may explain why it still has a headphone port. However, many larger TV's still have an audio out (line level, red and white RCA) that can be used with wireless headphones. There are also toslink to analog convertors or HDMI audio extractors that you can get for about $25. You could use one to achieve line level audio.
I have been researching TV's since the living room tv is old. My living room TV is ridiculous it is HD but it is a 50" plasma from 2004 and it was built before ASTC HD tuners were put in TV sets. The last owners left it because it was a pita to move, I can't imagine how much it would have cost in 2004.
The headphone I mentioned appears not to be a good choice in the line level audio output scenario.

t3ch42 said:
Its a simple little BT receiver that allows a 1/8” headphone jack or jumper to plug into your car aux. It has a battery which lasts three or so hours with headphones plugged in.
To sync, turn on the switch and search with your phone, firetv or whatever you have with BT audio. It automatically connects. Simple. Cheap.
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Then I am not sure how this approach would be different than using bluetooth headphones other than you getting lucky with this particular unit compared to others. It is bascially a bluetooth headphone without the headphones.
It's great that it works for you though.

superflysocal said:
Then I am not sure how this approach would be different than using bluetooth headphones other than you getting lucky with this particular unit compared to others. It is bascially a bluetooth headphone without the headphones.
It's great that it works for you though.
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You're right. They are no different. What I did notice is the audio did not seem too out of sync if at all with the newer version of xbmc.
Of course, it could just be a coincidence with a movie that had it audio set out of sync already...I don't know. I may have been more tolerant of the prep work in order to get it to work, pause the video, adjust delay forward, unpause and verify.
The point for me was that it was easy. The BT receiver could have been a more expensive one or cheaper. I don't think it matters too much right now as the BT audio is just an unintended positive side effect.
Amazon may enable a better fix soon or someone may mod a custom image with support if the bootloader opens. Its possible. Either way, I'm happy with the amazon TV. There a bunch more options and capabilities available on this xbmc box than any of the others I've had.

Bluetooth Audio Support?

Does the Nexus Player support Bluetooth audio? I'm designing an HTPC for my folks and I'd like to go as cordless as possible. The speakers are across the room and are Bluetooth-capable.
Has anyone tried BT audio with the Player?

Mymlan said:
Does the Nexus Player support Bluetooth audio? I'm designing an HTPC for my folks and I'd like to go as cordless as possible. The speakers are across the room and are Bluetooth-capable.
Has anyone tried BT audio with the Player?
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I tried Some headphones jabra revo and could not get them to show up when discovering

I tried with the Vamp and could not get that to show up when discovering either. I was hoping to do something similar, really hope this can be added with a firmware update or custom rom.

Couldn't get my bt skullcandys to connect either

Same here, cant find my logitech bluetooth audio receiver. This is huge disapointment but i hope google hears us and can fix this with an update.

Pairing Successful!
I found a workaround to pair my LG HBS-830 since doing a regular bluetooth search in the nexus player doesn't detect any headphones.. However, I'm now looking for another workaround to actually route the audio to the headphones!
To pair your headphones, just install ES File Explorer, and when you open it, there is an option to use bluetooth to connect to other devices in order to transfer files. However, when you do a scan for devices, the headphones actually show up (when set in pairing mode), and by clicking on it, it will automatically pair and appear in the nexus player's list of paired bluetooth devices.
By switching your headphones off/on, it automatically connects to your nexus player and even shows connected under the list of bluetooth devices, however no audio is routed to the headphones by default.. it is still routed to TV speakers.
So here you go, pairing is done.. let's now try to route audio to those headphones!
Hope this helps!

fadfood said:
I found a workaround to pair my LG HBS-830 since doing a regular bluetooth search in the nexus player doesn't detect any headphones.. However, I'm now looking for another workaround to actually route the audio to the headphones!
To pair your headphones, just install ES File Explorer, and when you open it, there is an option to use bluetooth to connect to other devices in order to transfer files. However, when you do a scan for devices, the headphones actually show up (when set in pairing mode), and by clicking on it, it will automatically pair and appear in the nexus player's list of paired bluetooth devices.
By switching your headphones off/on, it automatically connects to your nexus player and even shows connected under the list of bluetooth devices, however no audio is routed to the headphones by default.. it is still routed to TV speakers.
So here you go, pairing is done.. let's now try to route audio to those headphones!
Hope this helps!
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There is an app I use on my phone which may fix this problem. It's called Sound About Pro. It allows you to route your audio to different places... Like blue tooth or Handset Speakers or Headphones.

ryebread1974 said:
There is an app I use on my phone which may fix this problem. It's called Sound About Pro. It allows you to route your audio to different places... Like blue tooth or Handset Speakers or Headphones.
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I just installed SoundAbout on my nexus player.. I tried routing the media audio to my connected A2DP Bluetooth headset, but unfortunately I'm not getting any sound
Besides, the application is throwing some exception every time it's started.. maybe this is the reason..

I literally just hooked my player up for the first time and the very first thing I tried to do was connect my jaybird x headphones to it and they won't connect. I just assumed since the box had bluetooth and was an android device that it would support bluetooth audio. My quick search just now has revealed there is no bluetooth audio function enabled :crying: I got this explicitly for this function, so this is useless until someone finds a work around or google enables it. Anyone want to buy a brand new N player from me?

I'd try this trick from the FireTV forum but don't have the time right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714494

dc211 said:
I'd try this trick from the FireTV forum but don't have the time right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714494
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Sideloaded and tried it. It opens and appears to show normal settings, but crashes when I click anything. I'll keep trying things but so far I haven't been able to get this or ES File Explorer method to work :/

AllenConder said:
Sideloaded and tried it. It opens and appears to show normal settings, but crashes when I click anything. I'll keep trying things but so far I haven't been able to get this or ES File Explorer method to work :/
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ES File Explorer can only pair your A2DP bluetooth headphones with the nexus player.. Make sure you set your headphones in pairing mode before you do a scan for bluetooth devices.. Once found, just click on it and that's it, pairing will be made immediately.
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Okay so, I found out that the current SoundAbout released on the Google Play Store is still not compatible with Android 5.0. However, they added the support for that in the latest beta version. I'm unable to post the link, so just search for "SoundAbout beta" and you will get it from their official user board.
I tried sideloading the beta app on the nexus player.. Good thing: no more exceptions showing up.. Bad thing, still unable to route audio to headphones even when forcing media audio to use A2DP bluetooth.. plus, playing videos like youtube simply fails!

I tried that SoundAbout app too - but no luck.
I can't believe they don't support Bluetooth headphones. The only reason I was still using the Roku 3 is because the remote has a audio jack. I thought I could use the Nexus Player with Bluetooth headphones :/

Android M has got native support for A2DP Bluetooth streaming. You can flash the developer preview right now or wait for the release version in October/November. I wish Lollipop had this feature for AndroidTV to start with.

Yeah, same here, bought this device to be used with bt soundbar and projector ... all wireless ... can't believe this isn't working. Any tweaks ?

suhelbrar said:
Android M has got native support for A2DP Bluetooth streaming. You can flash the developer preview right now or wait for the release version in October/November. I wish Lollipop had this feature for AndroidTV to start with.
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Just updated my Nexus Player to Android M (Preview), and it works perfectly with my Jabra Move Wireless headset now ^^

So realistically I could just send the audio to my phone and use regular jack headphones

dakunclear said:
So realistically I could just send the audio to my phone and use regular jack headphones
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And how would you do that?
EDIT: Updating to the Preview of Android M now. I need to use Bluetooth audio...
EDIT2: Bluetooth audio works on the Preview but still too buggy. The apps I use crash. I guess I'll have to wait for the final stable release.

Nexus player control volume from external remote
What about to control the volume with external remote control that have the volume buttons?

[ROOT] Video on the FireTV, Audio on your phone

After seeing a post on reddit about someone wondering if this is possible I decided to try if I could get this to work. Could be useful if you could listen to the audio by headphones plugged into your phone and watching on the big screen. Found a solution quite fast in BubbleUPnP and using it's ability to send the audio to a DLNA renderer, this feature is called Audio Cast. You will need:
-Rooted FireTV with Xposed installed
-BubbleUPnP and the license, or you will be limited to 20 minutes audio streaming per app Launch.
-Mouse plugged into your FireTV, or droidmote/wukong/etc
Install BubbleUPnP and the license on your FireTV and enable BubbleUPnP in Xposed, then reboot your FireTV. Next you will need to install BubbleUPnP on any other DLNA renderer app on your phone/tablet/whatever you want to stream the audio to. Open BubbleUPnP on your phone so that the version on your FireTV can find it. Then open up BubbleUPnP on your FireTV, open the sidebar and as the renderer select your phone. Next to the renderer you can see a switch which you can use to turn Audio cast Off/On.
I would recommend first starting your movie/episode in XBMC before enabling Audio Cast, this seemed to give me the best result. So play your media in XBMC, enable Audio Cast and go back to XBMC and resume. You will notice there is a delay in the Audio. Use the Audio offset to correct for this. I needed to set the Audio ahead by 1.8 seconds to get it to sync up properly. However this can vary quite a bit between plays and it can be tricky to find the correct offset to fix the delay.
If you experience audio drops try increasing the audio buffer length in the BubbleUPnP Audio Cast settings on your FireTV. Not a perfect solution but seems to work well enough for the occasional movie when someone else is sleeping in the same room.

This is the response I got from bubbleupnp back last year when I was trying to get this to work.
Hi,
Audio Cast cannot technically be used to send synced audio with video. There is no way around it.
The only valid use of Audio Cast with videos is if you are only interested in the audio part of the video.
Cheers,
Bubblesoft
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Tried as much as I could, it wasn't a solution. Ended up with better results with xbmc and audio delay with BT headphones. Until a real.solution comes ....

If you have bluetooth headphones there is obviously no need for anything like this. I don't have any so listening through my phone can be useful at times.
There will always be a delay if you stream the audio to your phone while watching on the FireTV. However XBMC audio offset works well and it usually doesn't take too much effort to get the video and audio to sync up.

Bluetooth Headphones?

Hello!
Real quick question and haven't seen anything recent about it. Do Bluetooth headphones work with the nexus player yet?
Thanks for any info. About to set up an audio/video situation and this would be perfect for me!

Just paired my Jaybird X2's with it and they work.

They work after the Marshmallow OTA.

I have tried BT heaphones with Nexus Player and it doesn't work as well as the Fire TV. I get a lot of stuttering with the Nexus Player. Not sure if it's casue if the BT is better in Fire TV.

I have some that work and some that don't. Right now I have a Bluetooth receiver that I can connect to my wired headphones so I can watch movies at night without bothering the family.

is it possible to do it with a app that is running on the phone. For example ios or android phone. because these devices have the bluetooth feature

Air audio options?

Anyone know if there is a way to steam audio to a network receiver over wifi, not Bluetooth and not local music. Looking to be able to steam via dlana with music apps such as iheart etc. Only option I know that does this is airaudio but that requires root. Anyone know of any other options?

krad42 said:
Anyone know if there is a way to steam audio to a network receiver over wifi, not Bluetooth and not local music. Looking to be able to steam via dlana with music apps such as iheart etc. Only option I know that does this is airaudio but that requires root. Anyone know of any other options?
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One of the best option to send system wide audio to a Network Reciever is to get a Chromecast Audio dongle, connect it to Reciever via toslink cable if you reciever supports it and using "Cast App" send the audio to cast audio. Amazing audio quality.

I use the root App airaudio. Streaming to dlna Speakers. Needs root and the magisk airaudio Module.

Hey there,
AirAudio has been kicked by Google because they didn't like a link to a rooting-website inside the description anymore, written 7 years ago.
Its successor is called AirMusic and allows to stream some apps (eg. YouTube, YT Music, Deezer, PodcastAddict , radio.de, Plex and more, you have to try it out) without root on Android 10+.
On rooted devices, all audio can be transmitted.