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LG G3 (32gb) vs One Plus One (64gb)

so as the title states what would you guys rather have (att contract LG G3) or the 64GB One Plus One

The oneplus is a great phone but its hard to obtain due to the invite crap they do. If you have an invite I'd say buy both and see what you prefer. If you don't have an invite why even think which one to get.

say you had both boxed up on your desk right now.

They both have similar specs and camera too
both have s801,3gb ram, same sony camera sensor but the one plus is half the price and you need invite which is hard to get.
oh and then lg g3 have so called laser focus like dslr but anandtech proved that its not really a laser focus like dslr
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8062/a-closer-look-at-the-g3s-ir-laser-auto-focus-system

im just saying like if you had both still in box and had to give one up witch one would you keep? (and it would be your daily driver phone)

I previously posted my review of the OnePlus One over on the OnePlus forum but I guess I might as well post it here as well for others debating between the two...
TL;DR: I ordered the OnePlus One and the LG G3. When they arrived I was so unimpressed with the Oneplus One that I sold it to a coworker for the original price I paid and happily kept the G3.
Detailed version...
I won an invite from the Storm Of Invites about 5 weeks ago. I promptly placed an order and the phone arrived last Tuesday. However, while the phone was in transit I started doing more research to see if it really was the phone for me and if there were other options out there. In the end I chose to sell it to my co-worker and order the LG G3 instead. After doing my research I felt the G3 would better fit my needs. Once I finally got my hands on the OnePlus One in person and played with it for a bit I was VERY glad that I sold the One to my co-worker and opted for the G3 instead.
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of pros to the One, but the cons greatly outweighed them for me...
Pros:
- It's very snappy. It feels as snappy right out of the box as my Nexus 5 did with all the tweaks and CM11 installed. It was definitely snappier than the G3 right out of the box. (But after some minor tweaking I can now say that the G3 is as fast.)
- The back plate of the phone feels fantastic in the hand. It's very premium and will hold up vey well to scratching.
- The reviews convinced me that the phone would be too big for use with one hand. This is actually not the case. I don't have large hands by any means and can say that the One feels great in one hand. I was not afraid of dropping it at all.
- Overall the phone feels like a premium ($600+) device and I'd argue that the overall feel is higher quality than the LG G3.
Cons:
- The d*** yellow tint at the bottom of the screen. I read about it from many users before receiving my phone. Some said it was very noticeable while others said it wasn't a big deal. However, the yellow tint is definitely there, it absolutely is noticeable on light grey/white backgrounds, and there is no doubt in my mind that it is a defect. The fact that OnePlus refuses to admit this is a defect and replace phones with this issue is very off-putting and tells me a lot about the company.
- Chrome bezels. This is personal preference but I hate phones with chrome bezels because they just scratch way too easily, in my experience. I wasn't a fan of the chrome bezels on my Nexus 4 and I surely don't like them on the OnePlus One. I have no doubt that they will get scratched up (even with a case) rather quickly.
- While the phone does feel good in one hand, it's still too tall. The height of the phone is borderline awkward looking in person. OnePlus really should have eliminated the capacitive buttons and tried trimming the bottom bezel down a bit.
- Piggy backing off that last one, why the hell does it have capacitive buttons? Google designed great on screen buttons for a reason. There is no need to tack on additional buttons as well. OnePlus should have left that B.S. with HTC and Samsung. I understand you can disable them for the on screen buttons but it's redundant and unnecessary to have them.
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Anyway, aside from the yellow tint (which definitely would be a deal breaker on its own), the remaining "cons" would not be big issues individually. However, when combined, they made me significantly less impressed with the phone as a whole. Had I not sold the phone to my co-worker I would have returned it for a full refund.
For those who may be curious, here are 2 other big reasons why I decided to go with the G3 before the OnePlus One even arrived...
- Wifi calling (T-Mobile). The One will never have this feature and since my cell reception at home is horrendous, I've been wanting to get a phone capable of Wifi calling on T-Mobile for a while now.
- After watching MANY reviews of the OnePlus One and LG G3 over the past month or so, it seems everyone was most impressed with the G3's camera. The extremely fast laser focus is a very cool feature that I plan on making good use of. So far it's lived up to the hype.
- Buttons on the back instead of the sides. To me this is a great evolution of the smart phone. Over the past few years I've grown quite annoyed of side buttons that tend to cause issues with cases fitting perfectly and getting accidentally pressed when pulling the phone from your pocket. Plus I've felt that it can be awkward to access side buttons properly with one hand without feeling like you are going to drop the phone. The back buttons on the G3 are very welcomed, in my opinion.

@sn0warny great review. @therussiann although the oneplus sounds appealing I've read that its had a lot of issues software wise. And cm needs to push a lot of updates to fix these. It would be an awesome phone just needs a lot of refinement. That said G3 all the way
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I am a nexus 5 user. but i would get G3 over 1+1.

I have the oneplus 64gb black one in my pocket right now along side my nexus 5. I got it yesterday and wanted to test it out before deciding what to do. I also have an lg g3 coming tomorrow as well so im going to have all 3 at once to make my choice.
I can tell you right now i really really like the oneplus one. feels great in hand and the sandstone back cover is money. It is a little tall though. I will probably be selling it in favor of the lg g3. Check swappa soon for my post. phone is fast and awesome just not fully my scene i think. Will know for sure once i have a couple days with the g3...i played with one last night and it was really really nice

oneplus one is like big foot ....

This poll i a G3 forum is kind of pointless. We already know what the results will be. But I know LG will stand by their product and make good on their warranty. A new company coming in and trying to do things cheaply raises concerns for me in that area, and the apparent screen issue in the above comment reinforces that.
But I'm also a college student and don't have the money to just get another phone if mine has problems.

A big reason I stayed away from the OPO, is ease of repairs/replacement. Judging by how shady ONE Plus' business practices are, I feel you'd have to jump through hoops to get anything fixed.

lol, you never take poll in a biased community my friend. but LG g3 all day and every day...the phone is better, the company is better, warranty is better, shipping is better, obtainability is better, company honesty is better, screen is better (no yellow)...what else...

Lg. Simply cause I'm not interested in following contests and begging for invites. I rather walk into a store and buy my phone.

I'm using both the One plus one and G3 over the last couple of days. I'm liking the OPO over G3 currently mainly because it is more snappier and feels better in the hand than G3. I feel the G3 is little too wide to be held comfortably for long durations of time. The camera is better in the G3. Overall the OPO is a great value compared to G3 or other flagship if you could get hold of one at the actual price.
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Truth is I still love my nexus 5 over all. I will use the g3 until the nexus 6 drops probably

In before the lock, comparison thread
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my one plus one should be here in a day or two I will let you know what I think between g3, opo, and my old note 3

kirdroid said:
I'm using both the One plus one and G3 over the last couple of days. I'm liking the OPO over G3 currently mainly because it is more snappier and feels better in the hand than G3. I feel the G3 is little too wide to be held comfortably for long durations of time. The camera is better in the G3. Overall the OPO is a great value compared to G3 or other flagship if you could get hold of one at the actual price.
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If the G3 feels too wide, then the OPO would feel even wider, given it's the wider device.

Japultra said:
If the G3 feels too wide, then the OPO would feel even wider, given it's the wider device.
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No it's not because I'm using them both. OPO is taller and G3 is wider.

On the fence about buying a Nexus 6P; Convince Me

On the fence; convince me.
So, still rocking the nexus 5, but it's time to upgrade since the mic is giving out (my fault for being rough replacing the screen without a heat gun lol).
I know I want a nexus device but I'm not sure if I want to super-size my screen. I've never owned a "phablet", in fact I used to dislike them, but now that they're more common place I might reconsider. My hands are average if not on the larger side so I'm sure I'd get used to it, but do I want to? One handed use is nice when necessary, but is it ever absolutely necessary?
The beefier speakers, cpu, ram, battery, and screen (AMOLED) are all turn-on's. But I want to now how the transition was for all of you, be it to the nexus 6, Note, 6p, or whatever other device was your first big screen phone. Any regrets, big or small? Will you ever down size? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Stop worrying. Once you go phablet, you want want to go back. Plus, front facing mothereffing speakers! I rock the piss out of my nexus 6 and the speakers are just so, damn, good. Back on the size subject, you adapt to the size very fast and I hear the 6p is a narrower device than my N6, so I say go for the 6p.

Why not go with 5x

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Why not go with 5x
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It's between the 6p and the 5x for me, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for the jump in size.
mikehunt22 said:
I hear the 6p is a narrower device than my N6, so I say go for the 6p.
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Good to hear, I kinda thought the 6 was a little uncomfortable to handle with its size and design. Plus I prefer the more square design of the 6p over the roundness of the 6.
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I came from Galaxy S6, no regrets. I did own the Note 4 before that but after you make the adjustment you'll like having a larger screen.

I came from a Moto X 2014. The device feels huge but very premium and thin. The camera and screen are insanely good. I ended up returning it because when playing music through the aux it would stop randomly. Idk if it was hardware or software but it was annoying. The speakers are good as well but each sound a bit different. I assume it's what sits behind each speakers that gives it the effect that one is louder than the other. I also had weird stutters with apps like instagram, snapchat, and the settings menu. Ultimately I don't think I'll repurchase the device because of its size. I had it for a week and got used to making adjustments to handle a big device but it's so much easier for me to manage my Moto X 2014.
I also have the 5x sitting on my desk. I don't think I can justify the price to upgrade from my Moto X 2014 so that one will also be returned. You might want to check it out. It's more of the workhorse of the two and feels really good in the hand.

You get used to the phone being big for the most part. I was using a phone with a 5 inch screen temporarily after having a samsung note 3 and I did like how much easier it was to handle the phone but at the same time I missed the bigger screen. You need to decide yourself which is more important to you so you don't have buyers remorse.

Just buy my old N6. You'll love it. It's nowhere near as awesome as my 6P, but you'll love it. Yup.

You will adapt to its size after a hour or so of use. You will begin to realize that it isn't even that huge anymore.

Get another Nexus 5 for $100 on Ebay and enjoy life.

I'd love to share my thoughts about this phone with you. I have a lot and I also come from the Nexus 5 and skipped the Nexus 6 entirely because of its size. So strap in...
I was also on the fence back in mid October. I just couldn't make the jump yet. The 5X didn't seem like much of an upgrade to me. It just seemed like they remade the 5 again. I'm not here to argue specs with anyone, but personally, I wasn't too impressed. I was impressed with the 6P specs though. That felt more right in the way of an upgrade. I didn't really need an upgrade, but the screen is slightly raised on my N5. It clicks when you press the right spot. It does not impact functionality at all and it's been like that about 6 months now. I got my N5 brand new on launch, so it held up pretty well I'd say. I have a lot of friends who (despite my best efforts) are with the dark side and recently got the 6+ and 6S+ iPhones. They all justify the size of the phone with the real estate for gaming and movies. I get that, I do. I'd much rather game and watch movies on my 55" HDTV then on my 24" in the bedroom. After playing some games and checking out Netflix on their phones, I did like the bigger size in that sense. That being said, I got the phone delivered to me on November 9th and I am still getting used to it. If you've ever held a 6+, that is what you can expect. I compared my 6P to a buddies 6+ and they are exactly the same size.
My best advice to you (and anyone else in a similar situation) would be to be please, please, please, please, please do not let the threads in the 6P General forum scare you. There's a lot of threads about a lot of defects and issues. They have already acknowledged and addressed these issues and aside from a few bad eggs, from what I've seen the RMA's that have been going out have been better. I have 0 issues with my device. Everything is cut and lined up properly. All flush. Nothing is loose or raised. I decided to make the jump and was ready to order from Project Fi the moment I finally got my invite from them. That happened on 10/16/2015. I ordered the 32gb graphite. I love the overall look and feel of it way more than the N5 which I could not get enough of at launch. The build quality of the phone is amazing. The weight of it and the metal touch make it feel extremely high quality. That's the one thing I always thought Google could take a lesson from Apple in. Despite my opinion on Apple and iOS, I could always appreciate the build quality of the iPhones. They felt so solid and great to hold. None of my phones gave me the same satisfaction as iPhones did. I never had one, but I've played with my friends. It always felt so legit while my phones always felt like cheap lightweight plastic toys. Google finally stepped up in that sense. I have had mine since the 9th of November and so far I have not had a single issue as found in this forum. The phone still sits completely flush on the front or back. No wobbling when you press one of the edges. No bends, the back glass hasn't spontaneously cracked. Everything works 100%. It's solid. It's legit.
The feel is phenomenal. The first thing you will notice is the feel of the aluminum. It feels great. No, I mean great. Amazing, even. The one downside being that it is slippery. Keep a good grip on it. Don't try to balance it on your leg or clothes when you're sitting down. It'll slip. Besides that though? The first time you leave you phone idling in a cool room and pick it up. Oh man, I was not prepared for that. I would compare it to flipping your pillow over to put your face on the cool side. You get the same satisfaction. It's refreshing, every single time. 10/10 would recommend. You don't get that with the N5, no sir.
The next thing that I noticed right away was the haptic feedback. As soon as I pressed the home button I giggled like a schoolgirl. I don't know if my N5 had a defective motor (known issue, I know), but it never, ever felt like that. It feels so much crisper, cleaner and a lot more tight. My N5 kind of sounds and feels loose and rattly. Another thing I love, which isn't really a selling point...at all is that when you listen to the haptic feedback in a dead-quite room, it makes a neat sound. The vibrations just feel deeper and sharper. I can't get enough.
My screen is perfect. Not a single issue. There is no color or hue defects at all. There is no raised edges. Everything is 100% in this department. As mentioned earlier, it is awesome for movies and gaming if that is your thing. I don't really game much besides N64 emulators and as far as videos and movies goes, Netflix and YouTube is pretty much all I use.
Next up is the front facing speakers. The front facing speakers. The front facing speaks blew me away. Coming from a Nexus 5? Absolutely blew my mind. I had both phones, one in my left hand one in my right. I opened YouTube on both and I opened up 'Who Are You' by The Who on both. I played it first on my N5, rooted with V4A installed and finely tuned. My thoughts? "OK, sounds pretty good. Yeah." I had my Viper settings to my liking and that's what I was used to. The very second I pressed play on the 6P I had the biggest grin on my face. It was so LOUD and the sound was coming right at me! You know how when you hold the Nexus 5, half of the time you cover the speaker holes with your hand? It was just the way you held it and the placement of the speaker? Especially in landscape when trying to watch a video... I hated that sooooo much. I love these speakers so much. Some people here say the sound quality is bad, but I haven't noticed that at all. No crackling or popping. Nothing sounds distorted or washed out, but there are others out there a lot more judgmental in those regards than myself.
USB Type-C. Now when I mentioned earlier than I am still getting used to the phone, this is primarily what I mean. I cannot seem to shake the habit of slightly twirling the cable and looking down at it to make sure it's facing the right direction before plugging it in. You don't need to do that anymore, just plug and go. If I don't think about it and just go to plug in, I find myself doing that almost every time.
The buttons. The buttons are nice. They have a clean, crisp click when you press them. Almost like a snap. I like the way the power button is textured. It feels nice when you slide your finger over it. While on topic of the power button, I love the double press to access camera feature. I can't tell you how many pictures I missed (animal or insect that got spooked) waiting to open my N5 camera, even from the lockscreen. Even if the 6P is idle, a quick double press of the power button and the camera is open instantly. It's so fast, I'm blown away every time. I still haven't got used to that either. Oh and the 240 FPS is so cool, just make sure you do it in well lit places otherwise it comes out grainy. I don't want to go as far as to say potato quality, but you'll see what I mean if you try in a dimmer setting.
The only, and I mean only beef I have with the buttons is the placement. I am left handed. The way I hold and use all of my phones is that I primarily support my phones with my right hand and use my left for scrolling, reaching across the screen, zooming, etc. As a result, I got into the habit of using my right hand for single handed use. It just doesn't feel right to use only my left hand with my phones. It's awkward and just not natural for me. So when I want to take a screenshot, I do have to use both hands. My right thumb and then my left hand for the power button, otherwise I end up capturing a bug report. I can take screenshots one handed if I use my left hand, but I just don't do that, ever. Other than that I have no issues with that. I do not have any rattling from them during normal usage or movement of the phone. They do slightly rattle if I shake the phone quite hard. However having button rattle ONLY when I shake it hard enough to see if they rattle is not a turn of for me, at all.
The battery. I am honestly so incredibly impressed with the battery, I cannot even begin to tell you. On my Nexus 5, I would take all sorts of measures to improve battery life as well as screen on time. Granted I did have some things working against me like the Viper drivers and things of that nature, but I would keep the brightness around 50%, usually slightly under. NFC, location, etc. was all off and I was pretty impressed with 3-3.5 hours of screen on time, per charge. With my 6P I get 6 hours of screen on time every single charge. That is with the screen at 100% full brightness at all times. Nothing is turned off either. This is with the phone bare stock. It isn't unlocked or rooted, it is completely factory stock plus about 80 or so user apps installed. At least an hour of YouTube throughout the day, probably more. I also stream Spotify sometimes, not too much though. Aside from that just web browsing. XDA, Facebook, Google+, things of that nature. As far as the brightness goes, I'm not too worried about burn in as I never got any on my Galaxy Nexus and I had that for almost 4 years. The idle drain is insane. I went an entire work day without my phone. I left it in the car and at the end of the day when I went back, it was at 99%. 8 hour shift on full bars LTE. I often find myself using the phone and after so long I'm like yeah it's about time to charge it before it dies. Since I'm used to the Nexus 5 and all, but I pull the shade down and see like 40% left and I can't help but laugh. I love it. Love love love it.
Now as far as the size goes. If that's all you're worried about... Do yourself a favor and go order the phone right now. Just do it. I was so against it myself, but you do get used to it. You really do. Eventually you get the hang of using it one handed no problem. You kinda have to tilt it in towards your palm so you can reach your thumb across to the furthest corner, but that's only if you happen to need to press whatever is in the furthest corner. Texting in landscape was a bit of a curve as well. I don't have huge hands, but I don't have small girly hands either. That's a lot of phone to cover. Instead of just resting it in your fingers, you kind of have to set it further back on your fingers to cradle it. That way you have a bit more reach with your thumbs. It took some getting used to, but now I can text one handed, or landscape with no issues. Believe me though, when you first try you will probably say nope, this isn't happening I am returning it. Don't. You get over that. Really, you do. Everything else about this phone will make you fall in love before you are inconvenienced by the size even once. Seriously, pull the trigger. You want to and you know it, stop kidding yourself. I just got used to the size though, I didn't really fall in love. I would say if they made a phone with the same specs and they found a happy medium between the N5 and the 6P as far as size goes, I'd surely downsize and get it. Not until this phone put in it's 2+ years though. I wouldn't ever send it back to get a smaller screen now that I actually have it.
I have no real complaints with any aspects of the phone. It's been so great I honestly haven't even wanted to unlock or root it yet. Now that Cataclysm is available- and a user over in that thread commented that with systemless root he was able to successfully add cards and complete purchases with Android Pay, I may reconsider. Solid phone and a solid experience using it. Like you said, you have slightly larger hands, so you certainly will acclimate to the size of the phone in little to no time. I hope I could answer some of your questions about the device and alleviate some of your concerns! Let me know if you have any other questions!
tl;dr - Do it and welcome to the 6P forums.

It's OK to sit on the fence. Just make sure not to sit on the phone... It will bend.

6P imo is the best android phone you can buy right now, its a full package, much easier to hold than the N6 too

Jimmy_Noname said:
So, still rocking the nexus 5, but it's time to upgrade since the mic is giving out (my fault for being rough replacing the screen without a heat gun lol).
I know I want a nexus device but I'm not sure if I want to super-size my screen. I've never owned a "phablet", in fact I used to dislike them, but now that they're more common place I might reconsider. My hands are average if not on the larger side so I'm sure I'd get used to it, but do I want to? One handed use is nice when necessary, but is it ever absolutely necessary?
The beefier speakers, cpu, ram, battery, and screen (AMOLED) are all turn-on's. But I want to now how the transition was for all of you, be it to the nexus 6, Note, 6p, or whatever other device was your first big screen phone. Any regrets, big or small? Will you ever down size? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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You'd be surprised how quickly you get used to it. I went from a smaller screen to the OnePlus One and it was a pretty big jump, but I was used to it within a few hours. Now I have the 6P. You won't want to go back to a smaller screen.
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Try it and probably never look back!

I had a Nexus 5X until my 6P came in. Trust me, it's night and day and although the size difference is VRY noticeable, it's not unbearable. You're getting a lot of phone for a rock bottom price. NOT saying the 5X was bad at all, actually quite different. I just wanted the extra screen real estate.

I came from an N5, had the same phablet reservations. But after seeing what Google did with the 5X, it wasn't quite what I was hoping it would be. I love the 6P!
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I had a Nexus 5X until my 6P came in. Trust me, it's night and day and although the size difference is VRY noticeable, it's not unbearable. You're getting a lot of phone for a rock bottom price. NOT saying the 5X was bad at all, actually quite different. I just wanted the extra screen real estate.
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Returned my 6p for a 5x and could not be happier. The 6p is a very big and long phone.
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Hands-on review...

To preface this, here comes a wall of text.
I have evolved from not knowing how to even use a Galaxy S3, to being able to unlock/root/flash/repair my previous Nexus 6, all thanks to the members here, so thanks for all the help, and for reading this!
I am a construction worker by trade, so my phones need to be able to hold up to water, dust, and drops, which means I always have a case on it, and most of the time a screen protector. I do my best to keep them safe, but it doesn't always work out that way. My S4 broke 2 days after I bought it because it dropped on a concrete floor, and my first Nexus 6 fell out of my pocket from 30 stories up when I was in a safety harness hanging off the side of a highrise skeleton. This phone seems to be built pretty well, and feels good in my catcher's mitt-sized hands. I am having a little trouble typing in portait mode, but I am just attributing that to a different size screen and keyboard location relative to the way I hold the phone. I put an Otterbox Defender on it, but haven't decided whether I want a screen protector or not.
Speaking of that, the screen is decent. It isn't great by any means in my opinion, and toggling the Vivid Color setting on and off makes it go from meh to ok. I am not looking for Samsung-esque saturation, but I will echo what has been said about the colors seeming washed out. I am also having a bit of touch response issues, where I have to tap on the same thing multiple times to get it to respond and do what I am asking. Hopefully it is just me not being dexterous enough with my inputs, and not the phone itself. This is why I am unsure about the screen protector, since I think that might make things worse. Also, I have noticed that when backing out from a settings menu, my weather app opens, even though I haven't tapped on the weather.
I turned off the squeeze for Google Assistant already, and the always-on display since this phone will spend a lot of time in my pocket and I am extremely active all day, so I don't want them constantly turning on and wasting battery, or activating and me not knowing it.
I watched some YT videos of music/soundtracks I like, to see if the dual speakers really made a difference, and while it does sound good, to my untrained ears it didn't really sound all too different.
I took a few pictures of my kids and my dog, and they do look fantastic for sure. That is definitely an improvement over my Nexus 6.
To be honest, I am a little disappointed.
Maybe some of you more knowledgable members can shed some light on how I can fix these issues, if it is at all possible?
Thanks!

My previous phones include the Nexus 5, Nexus 6p and now the Pixel XL (I will not be getting the pixel 2 XL.)
I can't comment much on the screen response as I've never experienced the issue on any of the aforementioned devices.
As far as a screen protector, I don't use them. The glass technology used on premium smartphones has come a long way. They're pretty difficult to scratch. However, taking into consideration your line of work, it may not be a bad idea.
In my honest opinion, all previous Nexus/pixel devices have had washed out displays. Especially coming from a Samsung Galaxy which is notorious for saturated and vibrant colors, you're definitely going to notice it.
To combat the color issue on the 6p, I flashed ElementalX kernel and used the EX kernel manager to turn up the color saturation by about 15%. It made a world of difference and the display was much more pleasurable to view. Maybe give a custom kernel with optimized saturation/hue settings a try.

Thank you for the review!
I went into a Verizon store two days ago as was extremely underwhelmed by the Just Black Pixel 2 XL, particularly due to hardware. I was kind of expecting Nexus 6P or HTC level build quality/ in hand feel.
I have been doing my best to talk myself back into liking and wanting a 2 XL; basically repeating to myself what Dieter from the Verge said in his Pixel 2 review " The Pixel 2 and 2 XL are not the nice dining room table where you lay out the fancy silverware for your guests, they are the kitchen counter where you actually eat."
"A lot of phones are designed for one thing above all else, to give you a dazzling first impression. The Pixel 2 does not go in for all that. In fact the first hardware impression is not going to blow your hair back, but then you start to use it and you notice those little things and the software is fast and helps you be more productive."
In my mind he is saying "the hardware is average, but the software makes up for that and makes the Pixel 2 XL a great device in-spite of it lackluster hardware."
So your comment of "To be honest, I am a little disappointed."
Really hit home for me! Being brutally honest with us; what exactly is causing you to be a bit disappointed with your new Pixel?

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Thank you for the review!
I went into a Verizon store two days ago as was extremely underwhelmed by the Just Black Pixel 2 XL, particularly due to hardware. I was kind of expecting Nexus 6P or HTC level build quality/ in hand feel.
I have been doing my best to talk myself back into liking and wanting a 2 XL; basically repeating to myself what Dieter from the Verge said in his Pixel 2 review " The Pixel 2 and 2 XL are not the nice dining room table where you lay out the fancy silverware for your guests, they are the kitchen counter where you actually eat."
"A lot of phones are designed for one thing above all else, to give you a dazzling first impression. The Pixel 2 does not go in for all that. In fact the first hardware impression is not going to blow your hair back, but then you start to use it and you notice those little things and the software is fast and helps you be more productive."
In my mind he is saying "the hardware is average, but the software makes up for that and makes the Pixel 2 XL a great device in-spite of it lackluster hardware."
So your comment of "To be honest, I am a little disappointed."
Really hit home for me! Being brutally honest with us; what exactly is causing you to be a bit disappointed with your new Pixel?
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I got to use it a good amount last night and this morning, and I would say the thing that bothers me most is that it isn't leaps and bounds better in every way than my 3-year old Nexus 6, aside from the camera.
I am still having the touch response issues, and the constant opening of the weather is bothering me. It seems like there are software bugs that need to be worked out for sure.
The screen is bothering me more and more. It looks like there is a film over it that you just can't get off.
It might be going back, which sucks, because I don't know what else to get.

a.demarco, did you get your 2 XL from a Verizon store or from Google?
It might be that you just got a bad phone and hopefully they can switch it out for you.
I am in similar boat, as to I am unsure what else to get.
I feel like the 2 XL is one of best options out there, but I do not really want that option lol.
I am going to head to Verizon store later today to see if I like the LG V30 hardware and if I do I might end up getting that and running the Pixel launcher on it.
Very similar to what was done on this video.
https://youtu.be/cDC2amW1vlU

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a.demarco, did you get your 2 XL from a Verizon store or from Google?
It might be that you just got a bad phone and hopefully they can switch it out for you.
I am in similar boat, as to I am unsure what else to get.
I feel like the 2 XL is one of best options out there, but I do not really want that option lol.
I am going to head to Verizon store later today to see if I like the LG V30 hardware and if I do I might end up getting that and running the Pixel launcher on it.
Very similar to what was done on this video.
https://youtu.be/cDC2amW1vlU
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Preorder from Verizon... The software glitches are driving me nuts. Every time I leave the Settings menu by pressing the back button, it opens up the weather. I am still having to tap on something multiple times to get it to respond as well. Have done 2 factory resets already, and nothing has changed.
I really don't want the S8+ or the Note8...

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Preorder from Verizon... The software glitches are driving me nuts. Every time I leave the Settings menu by pressing the back button, it opens up the weather. I am still having to tap on something multiple times to get it to respond as well. Have done 2 factory resets already, and nothing has changed.
I really don't want the S8+ or the Note8...
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Yes, I would definitely be talking that bad boy right back to the Verizon store and asking them if they can swap it out!
Same, I can definitely do without any Samsung products lol!
So I am thinking V30 or Essential phone; but at the same time I really do not want those either haha... man I wish HTC had their stuff together and was making phones like they did back in Droid Incredible days!

Have you returned/cancelled your Pixel 2 XL or kept it?

I was just wondering how many of you guys and girls have returned or cancelled your order of the Pixel 2 XL? There are so many threads where a lot of members said that they either are returning their phone or cancelling their order based on general reception. And as I don't think we can expect any data about this topic from Google any time soon, I thought a poll would be nice to get an overview about the percentage of returns in this forum.
I live in Germany, and as the phone isn't released here yet there might be a chance for me to cancel my order if there are many returns because of screen and/or loudspeaker issues.

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I was just wondering how many of you guys and girls have returned or cancelled your order of the Pixel 2 XL? There are so many threads where a lot of members said that they either are returning their phone or cancelling their order based on general reception. And as I don't think we can expect any data about this topic from Google any time soon, I thought a poll would be nice to get an overview about the percentage of returns in this forum.
I live in Germany, and as the phone isn't released here yet there might be a chance for me to cancel my order if there are many returns because of screen and/or loudspeaker issues.
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Kept my Panda preorder. Actually having ages to wait is turning out to be a blessing. I'm leaving it as long as I can and keeping an eye on what's going on with the US ones. If it's still looking bad in mid December, then I'll still have the option to cancel.
Interestingly, Google will be coming to my place of work on 17th November, so I'll have the opportunity to grill them!
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I was just wondering how many of you guys and girls have returned or cancelled your order of the Pixel 2 XL? There are so many threads where a lot of members said that they either are returning their phone or cancelling their order based on general reception. And as I don't think we can expect any data about this topic from Google any time soon, I thought a poll would be nice to get an overview about the percentage of returns in this forum.
I live in Germany, and as the phone isn't released here yet there might be a chance for me to cancel my order if there are many returns because of screen and/or loudspeaker issues.
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I kept mine long enough to go to tmobile and get the 350 visa card going and then returning it. I'll wait or get a note 8 or just just stay with my current phone. All the main phones this year seem kind of disappointing.

I canceled my 2nd order two days ago and picked up a unlocked Note 8. After all the negatives with the 2XL coming out daily I figured I'd give Samsung another go. I will still keep an eye on the 2XL with a open mind. Hopefully the issues will be resolved soon because it is a beautiful phone. Good luck to those who are keeping theirs.

I'm keeping my 128 panda preorder the google reps that I spoke to are claiming that the second batch of phone will do much better screen wise I'm assuming this will delay my panda even more and that's fine with me as long as they iron out some of their kinks.

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I'm keeping my 128 panda preorder the google reps that I spoke to are claiming that the second batch of phone will do much better screen wise I'm assuming this will delay my panda even more and that's fine with me as long as they iron out some of their kinks.
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They mention how the phone "will do much better screen wise" ? Kinda odd that they switch it out that much but wont comment on the first ones coming out really.
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I canceled my 2nd order two days ago and picked up a unlocked Note 8. After all the negatives with the 2XL coming out daily I figured I'd give Samsung another go. I will still keep an eye on the 2XL with a open mind. Hopefully the issues will be resolved soon because it is a beautiful phone. Good luck to those who are keeping theirs.
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I wouldnt mind a note 8 but the fingerprint drives me nuts as i've used just the small s8 for past 2 months and that was annoying to get use to let alone a phone that much bigger.

I cancelled my pre-order for 64 GB Just black and will keep my brand new OG pixel for now till the screen issues is resolved.
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They mention how the phone "will do much better screen wise" ? Kinda odd that they switch it out that much but wont comment on the first ones coming out really.
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I wouldnt mind a note 8 but the fingerprint drives me nuts as i've used just the small s8 for past 2 months and that was annoying to get use to let alone a phone that much bigger.
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The two reps I spoke never really gave me specifics but then again I didn't even ask I just wanted to know if they knew anything about what Google plans on doing about the screen issues and should I cancel my preorder and they said they were aware and that much of the issues have been corrected on the second batch of pixels XL I then ask will my phone be apart of that second batch and they said yes

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I wouldnt mind a note 8 but the fingerprint drives me nuts as i've used just the small s8 for past 2 months and that was annoying to get use to let alone a phone that much bigger.
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It wasn't my first choice coming from a Pixel 5" but I am liking it so far and feel at ease with the purchase. But yeah it feels like a brick in my pocket lol. My wife got a S8+ last week so that kinda swayed me back to Samsung for a bit. As for the fingerprint, I rarely if ever use it. I can still purchase a 2XL when things get resolved but for now I'm good.

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It wasn't my first choice coming from a Pixel 5" but I am liking it so far and feel at ease with the purchase. But yeah it feels like a brick in my pocket lol. My wife got a S8+ last week so that kinda swayed me back to Samsung for a bit. As for the fingerprint, I rarely if ever use it. I can still purchase a 2XL when things get resolved but for now I'm good.
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The note 8 feels like a better phone than the pixel 2 does, the only reason I returned the note was you couldn't root it at the time. Once my XL is back in the mail back to google I am just getting one with the exn chip in it and staying with the note.

Cancelled order, will wait if the screen approve with future batch. Sticking to OG XL 6P replacement.

Kept. The screen blue tint doesn't bother me really at all. Most of the time I don't look at it at any other angle than dead on so seeing the blue isn't often. I think some people are just super nitpicky about things haha. So far I like this phone better than my og Pixel.

Decided to return mine this week. Have until next week to be within my 15 days. I will keep my V30. It just feels so much better size wize, wireless charging and headphone jack. When I use the Pixel I miss using the V30...just that simple.

Got my 128gb black version yesterday. I was surprised at how subtle the blue tint is in person. I barely notice it and I really have to angle it for it to show up - like nearly look at the screen directly from the side. The supposed washed out/dull colors are only obvious if you're comparing it directly to another device with higher saturation. I've especially noticed reds on the Pixel XL 2 actually look red compared to the oversaturated orangish look of the devices I compared it with (OnePlus 3T, Moto G4 Plus, iPhone 6 Plus).
With that said, I'm not sure that I'll keep it. $1000+ is a lot for a phone with display issues. Even though they're subtle, they're definitely there and I'm not sure one should just accept them. I'm not so sure about this "second batch" of phones, but maybe in a couple months these problems will be resolved.
Or maybe I'll keep it. I have time to think about it. I'll definitely use it through the weekend before making a decision.

I've had it for a day now. Great phone! Much better all around than the Oneplus2 I came from. Much better than the Note4 I had before that.
Plus, will get huge dev support. Not too many companies releasing source code any more and encouraging development.
This is my first carrier free google/nexus phone experience (the original G1 doesn't count, right?), and already - wow!!

Will be returning. Defect just popped up for my screen. I've got a grey bar that stretches across the screen below the bar is darker than above. Pretty disappointed as the software and overall hardware was damn nice on this phone.
Edit: the diagonal lines in the pictures are from the camera, not actual visible on phone.

Keeping mine. I love it. No issues except for the blue tint. The tint is mildly annoying at best. Anyway, if they somehow fix that, or actually end up using different screen hardware, I can always RMA it for a new one at that time.
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Keeping mine, no issues and have to tilt to get it to give the light blue tint not a deal breaker to me. Really a work horse and smooth as silk IMO. Not into vivid colors that much, but might try them out if they do a software update that give it just to see what is all the fuss over vivid color.

Cancelled my order. Might just get the smaller pixel 2 instead.
My Oneplus 5 is awesome but stuttery compared to anything from Google. WiFi is awful too.

What else to get?
Dear All,
I thought about cancelling the order but what other phone would I want? Nothing. Google has acknowledged the bugs and will fix in upcoming update. My order won't arrive till end of November which gives Google time to iron out the bugs. The blue colour shift they can't fix with software but would it really deter your overall user experience? Time will tell...

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto G6, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G6 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Got it activated first on Project Fi 3 days ago, for some reasons - I was "expecting" it to be a little bigger but it's just 2 clicks larger than the Nexus 5X getting traded in with the "generous" upgrade. For an entry/mid-range smartphone in 2018, I voted a 4 out of 5 (not that the absence of NFC or inability to use G.Pay is a make or break deal, I hardly use it & most places still do not accept it as mobile payment here in the US)
Dolby sound is very good, screen is bright & audio played via the speaker is fine - giving it a good workout as we hit the road today for a trip, more on the G6 later ... bootloader still locked at the moment.
Net cost to get this brand new G6 to me is about $120 after the trade-in, not really spend much more than paying someone to replace the old, tired & not as good 2.5 years old battery on the Nexus 5X, so I'm a little biased on this Lenovo/Motorola piece.

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Got it activated first on Project Fi 3 days ago, for some reasons - I was "expecting" it to be a little bigger but it's just 2 clicks larger than the Nexus 5X getting traded in with the "generous" upgrade. For an entry/mid-range smartphone in 2018, I voted a 4 out of 5 (not that the absence of NFC or inability to use G.Pay is a make or break deal, I hardly use it & most places still do not accept it as mobile payment here in the US)
Dolby sound is very good, screen is bright & audio played via the speaker is fine - giving it a good workout as we hit the road today for a trip, more on the G6 later ... bootloader still locked at the moment.
Net cost to get this brand new G6 to me is about $120 after the trade-in, not really spend much more than paying someone to replace the old, tired & not as good 2.5 years old battery on the Nexus 5X, so I'm a little biased on this Lenovo/Motorola piece.
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Similar thoughts as you (also running the Project Fi version of the phone).
- Phone is smaller than I expected.
- Loving the thin bezels, looks much more premium than the actual cost to me ($200)
- I don't use NFC. Don't trust it, so the lack of NFC is not a big deal
- Battery life is good, front facing speaker loud, screen is bright and sharp
- Responsiveness is in line with what you would expect from a $300-400 phone IMO
- Nearly stock Android experience = CLUTCH

Agree with others. Coming from a 5X most everything is acceptable given the price. I was blown away by the speaker. BUT my biggest gripe is the cameras low light performance...its not good by any means, very grainy, colors are bad. Regular outdoor pics are good though. Also wouldve preferred for it to NOT have a glass back since im a klutz and guaranteed to break it.

Have had this phone a couple of weeks now. Got to say I like it a lot. Definitely a step up from my Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 that I had for 3 years. This is also the most expensive phone (about $250) I've had as I'm a cheap skate and no way I'm ever paying $400 plus for a phone. Just can't bring myself to do it. The price I paid for this phone is "high dollar" for me, lol. Still getting used to the new 18x9 screen. A part of me likes it and a part of me likes 16x9 better. Since pretty much all phones are going to this size, I guess I better get used to it. The new screen size almost feels like a "cheater" to me. Moved the menu icons inside screen and made the width smaller making keyboard in portrait view (which is the way I text) actually a little smaller than what I had. Taller view but most stuff you view in landscape has bars so I don't see the benefit to it yet. Most comments I read about it, people love it. Me not so much. Phone itself is very good. Performance is very good, screen resolution is very good, camera is very good, battery life is very good (especially compared to my Redmi Note 2 which was a battery sucker). I like Android 8 and Moto apps. Pretty much bloatware free, and is nice and snappy. Had to put a case on it (put a Spigen on it) cause the phone actually felt a little small in my hands. The case gave it a little more bulk and made it feel a lot better in my hand. Love the fingerprint scanner which to me is the coolest thing since sliced bread (yup I'm a dinosaur). To tell the truth I would probably still be using the Note 2 but it started acting up on me. Now since I got this one though, it pretty much blows away my old phone in every way possible which of course is a good thing since I spent the bucks for a new phone. All in all I'm pretty damned happy with this phone. About the only thing I could say I wished it was, was a bigger phone. I went from a 5.5" 16x9 screen to a 5.7" 18x9 screen and this feels smaller than the other one to me in my hands. In the 18x9 size, I wish a had like a 6" or 6.5" screen. That would give more width that I would like to have. The width on the 16x9 was actually about 1/4" wider than the18x9 one, which is actually a substantial difference when using a keyboard.

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Have had this phone a couple of weeks now. Got to say I like it a lot. Definitely a step up from my Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 that I had for 3 years. This is also the most expensive phone (about $250) I've had as I'm a cheap skate and no way I'm ever paying $400 plus for a phone. Just can't bring myself to do it. The price I paid for this phone is "high dollar" for me, lol. Still getting used to the new 18x9 screen. A part of me likes it and a part of me likes 16x9 better. Since pretty much all phones are going to this size, I guess I better get used to it. The new screen size almost feels like a "cheater" to me. Moved the menu icons inside screen and made the width smaller making keyboard in portrait view (which is the way I text) actually a little smaller than what I had. Taller view but most stuff you view in landscape has bars so I don't see the benefit to it yet. Most comments I read about it, people love it. Me not so much. Phone itself is very good. Performance is very good, screen resolution is very good, camera is very good, battery life is very good (especially compared to my Redmi Note 2 which was a battery sucker). I like Android 8 and Moto apps. Pretty much bloatware free, and is nice and snappy. Had to put a case on it (put a Spigen on it) cause the phone actually felt a little small in my hands. The case gave it a little more bulk and made it feel a lot better in my hand. Love the fingerprint scanner which to me is the coolest thing since sliced bread (yup I'm a dinosaur). To tell the truth I would probably still be using the Note 2 but it started acting up on me. Now since I got this one though, it pretty much blows away my old phone in every way possible which of course is a good thing since I spent the bucks for a new phone. All in all I'm pretty damned happy with this phone. About the only thing I could say I wished it was, was a bigger phone. I went from a 5.5" 16x9 screen to a 5.7" 18x9 screen and this feels smaller than the other one to me in my hands. In the 18x9 size, I wish a had like a 6" or 6.5" screen. That would give more width that I would like to have. The width on the 16x9 was actually about 1/4" wider than the18x9 one, which is actually a substantial difference when using a keyboard.
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Great post, MikeO89...
Love your enthusiasm for the G6. It pretty much echoes mine.
I paid £220 here in the UK for mine, and like yourself, it's really about as much as I want to pay for a phone these days. There's been a considerable amount of coverage over the recent release of the Samsung Galaxy Note 9, and certainly the specs do look pretty damn awesome, but at close to nearly a £1000, an eye-watering sum of money for me... well, I just couldn't envisage spending that amount, even if I had it. Maybe when I have the next winning Euromillions lottery ticket, I'll buy one or whatever flagship is out then, but until that auspicious and lucky day arrives, I'm more than happy with my Moto G6.
And which I bought to replace my ageing and battery-dying HTC One M8, which I paid £530 for back in 2014. I remember my Dad at the time saying in almost stunned and amazed disbelief "You want to spend how much on a phone??!!!" as though he'd not quite heard me correctly. Of course, I did try to explain that it was more of a personal pocket computer that just happens to have the ability to make phone calls. After I bought one and he saw it in action and began to understand the capabilities of it... well, he went out and bought one himself!
That was four years ago, and I'm a little bit more price conscious these days, so when my One M8's battery began to die earlier this year, I knew I needed a new phone.
Initially, I made the mistake of assuming that you needed to spend £600 or £700 on a phone to get a quality device. I'd been hearing about the Moto G series phones and the rave reviews they'd received around a year before, so when I heard about this years G6 release, I checked out all the reviews. My initial response was one of skepticism ~ how can a company like Lenovo release a phone with such great features at just a shade over £200 AND make a profit. Surely there's a catch, I mean there has to be, right? Wrong!
As it turns out, the Moto G6 is every bit as good as the reviews say it is. And you don't need to mortgage your soul to own one. I mean, where do I begin... fast turbo charging, really nice vibrant colourful screen, amazing battery life, Android 8 Oreo with next-to-no bloat, and fingerprint unlock. Yeah, I love fingerprint unlock. It's like your very own personal ON switch that nobody else can use, and no more playing join-the-dots and trying to remember which unlock pattern is correct for this device amongst the other devices (tablets) I own.
As for the size and aspect ratio, I love it. Coming from my old HTC One M8 which had an aspect of 16:9 and a resolution of 1080x1920...
...to the Moto G6 with an aspect of 18:9 (Rhetorical question: why isn't it just simply called 2:1) and resolution of 1080x2160, which my calculations reveal to be a 12.5% increase based on number of pixels alone. It is a sort of a cheat, but I feel in a good way. I now have a phone that doesn't feel significantly bigger than my One M8, because the width has stayed the same, but the height has increased, but not by that much when you 'add-on' the One M8's speakers at the top and bottom, but the actual screen size increase on the G6 is quite noticeable.
I use Nova Launcher, and I like tinkering around with Themes, Icon Packs, Wallpapers and Layouts and with the increase vertically, I now have more layout options for things like icons and widgets, because there's an extra couple of rows on the Nova desktop. And 5.7 inches feels about right to me. I'm not sure I would feel comfortable handling something like a 6 inch or larger device. If I can, I like to operate my phone one-handed and the bigger these things get, the more difficult one-handed operation becomes.
I do take your point about black bars in landscape mode though, particularly if you're watching video content, most of which tends to be shot in 16:9 aspect. This doesn't overly bother me really, because I generally don't watch a lot of stuff on my phone anyway. And when I do, I just sort of ignore the black bars. I watch a lot of old films and TV dramas on my TV back when things were shot in 4:3 aspect, and I just got used to seeing left and right black bars on my TV, so on my phone it's really not an issue for me.
I guess we can quibble about the shortcomings of the G6 ~ for example, the one thing I do miss is the left and right stereo HTC BoomSound front facing speakers that provided great quality audio on my old One M8. On the G6 there's only a single mono speaker - it sounds pretty good, but I miss the stereo - gotta dig out my headphones now if I want stereo. Great that there's an old fashioned 3.5mm audio socket on it for me to use my headphones. Won't get that an some £1000 flagships! I jest of course; I'm not having a pop at flagship devices, I'm just amused by the irony of it.
So, on the whole, minor quibbles aside, the Moto G6 is a pretty amazing phone for such a great price. It performs brilliantly and looks great. The Gorilla Glass back adds a touch of class to the device, although it can feel a little bit slippery at times. When I first got it, I had unpleasant visions of it sliding out of my hand and crashing to the concrete outside and cracking all that beautiful glass (the horror, the horror!), so I have now ensconced it in the protective embrace of a Spigen case, which actually looks quite good, and feels good in the hand too.
Well, that pretty much says it all really. A great phone at a great price. Can't really say much more than that... Well, I could, but then I'd be here all night typing superlatives and this post would just go on and on and on and on, etc., etc. and etc.
Ged.

its not the fastest device but for a budget device I really like it.

Overall probably the best bang for your buck if your looking at carrier specific devices. Came from a Galaxy S7 which I kinda went swimming with. I'm loving the 18:9 screen. I do notice the occasional hiccup when multitasking, but the battery life is on another level compared to my old S7.

Love my North American unlocked G6! Great value for the money. The battery life is fine, but I suggest using a browser for some of your social media, if you want to get plenty of power for a day of use.
I've already gotten direct looks at my phone from other people, and some folks can't believe I paid less than $300 for it. Glad I chose the oyster finish vs deep indigo. I do have a case on it, as the glass back is known to crack easily if the phone falls hard on the ground. My B&H order came with a free frosted silicone case, and tempered glass for the screen. Perfect!

Coming from U11 life, this phone seems better.
VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling work out of the box with T-Mobile
Rather loud speaker
I think 2:1 screen is OK
It looks like plain Android
Cam looks OK under low light
Decent reception with B12
It's fast like 6xx processor.
Adjustable screen tint
I am satisfied with the phone for the price.

Cool looking..

I've manageg to buy mine G6 for 129EUR, for that price it's best device I could choose.

Great phone for ~$100 now on eBay that's still getting security updates.
Pros:
+ $100 now on eBay for like-new condition
+ Almost pure stock Android, very little bloat and what is there I actually use (chop twice for flashlight, etc). Very stable.
+ Great band support, unlocked XT1925-6 will work on any US carrier, only missing bands 14, 46, and 71.
+ 3gb RAM is plenty sufficient to keep about three resource-heavy apps active at once.
+ Camera is decent enough and about what you'd expect from a phone in this price range.
+ You can adjust DPI under developer options, which makes content on phone appear larger/smaller so you can fit more on-screen. Very handy.
Cons:
- SD450 is an obvious bottleneck in resource-heavy apps, expect sporadic lag if you're playing PUBGM or running a browser with ten tabs open.
- Battery life could be better, usually end the day around 20% with moderate use. Not bad, but not great either.
If this had a SD600 series and a slightly larger battery it'd easily be 5*. For $100 bucks though it's hard to be upset with it.

Well I found the first problem with this phone. I can't get it to recognize an external microphone to record with the camera. I plugged in an external mic I had (3.5mm with 4 pin plug) and at first thought it was working as I made a couple of videos. Then I noticed in the videos that the sound would go up and down through the video. As I later found out, the volume was going up and down each time I would walk away from the phone while recording being the external mic had a 6 ft cord on it. I then actually tested the external mic this time (like I should have from the beginning) and found out the whole time it was still recording with the onboard mic even with external mic plugged in. The G6 was just ignoring it as a microphone and treating it as a headphone. So now I'm stymied. The onboard mic works well enough but I really wanted to have an external mic if I wanted it. I can hardly find any info on this whole external mic vs onboard mic thing with cellphones. Still like this phone and plan on having it for quite some time but a little bummed about this latest development.

OK, doing a follow up post to the one above concerning the issue with G6 not recognizing external mic when making a video. I had about given up on this and I had been searching like crazy about it. With my lack on finding anyone having similar issues like this, I was starting to think I'm the only one who is trying to use an external mic with this phone to make videos. I thought maybe is was just a jack issue so I then tried same external mic with my voice recorder app. With that app the external mic was working. Now I knew it wasn't the jack. I then installed "Open Camera" from the Google Play Store. There was actually a setting in video settings to select an external mic for recording. I then went ahead and made another video using the external mic and what do you know it worked perfect! One other setting that I'm excited about so far in Open Camera is the video stabilization setting. I don't have the steadiest hands and always had to use a tripod or my videos would come out like being on a boat. Made one with that setting on and it kept the video still as I was shooting it. It made me look like my shake was gone (wish it really was). This Open Camera app just kicks the living **** out of the Moto G6 stock camera app! Sure glad I tried it.

Got one on Motorola promo for $100. Very nice inexpensive backup phone!