I already posted this on "general", but.. yeah.
Hi! I really need help with this phone. SD cards won't appear on my phone, they used to though. The problem, I suppose, started when suddenly my phone gave me an error message saying that my SD card was corrupted. I left it like that for a while, but the message never went away, until recently when I tried to fix it by formatting the card with my computer as FAT32 so I could root the phone. After that it recognized it but quickly stopped, it just disappeared, and every time I removed the card and placed it back in the message would appear for a second and vanish the next. I decided to try to format it again on the pc and see if it would get recognized on another phone (Moto G 2gen.. which had another card on it), and it did.. When I saw that the other phone could see it and even use the card, I tried to see if the one that was on that phone worked on my Moto X.. it didn't. It didn't even display the error message. So I placed the first card back on the Moto X Play and the corruption message appeared for what seemed like less than a second every time I remove and replaced the card, that kept happening for a while, until eventually no message appeared even if I rebooted the phone. The card can be used by just about anything, but nothing gets recognized on the phone. I don't think that the slot is faulty since I've had the phone for more than a year now and more than half of that time I didn't use an SD card, also the problem started just recently and the slot seems just fine, the sim card works great and it goes right on top of the SD card. Help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
PS: Is there anyway to root the phone without sd card? I really need to root it. Also the phone is running Marshmallow.
Update: Now the phone won't charge.. I don't think it's the connector since I charged the phone yesterday without any problems, although, it wasn't showing like it was even connected. That all started yesterday. I think it's a problem with the OS, not sure though.
I went through five of this device in less than a year. No joke. Three of them had SD card failures.
Three of them had headphone jack problems. If ANY moisture got in the headphone jack, the device would think there were headphones pluggged in, and would disable the earpiece. The device would then be usable only via speakerphone or bluetooth. Two devices died from light moisture (caught in a drizzle, while in Otterbox Defender). They powered up, but the screens were dead.
Essentially, multiple problems with each X Play I used. Rather than continue to burn money on replacements, I coughed up a little extra and went with the Moto X Force instead. Night and day. The Force is a true flagship with a thoroughly robust design, features, speed, etc. I can actually now take advantage of AC wifi speeds. Super fast, especially on Nougat. AMOLED. If you look at the iFixit teardown (Droid Turbo 2 or X Force), it has a surprising amount of parts packed in, screwed, glued, and sealed. Shatterproof screen.
In my opinion, a flagship (even if two or three years old) will always be vastly superior to a brand new midrange or entry level, and a better way to go.
I in no way intend to bash the Play. I bought it because every Moto I'd used in the past had had rock solid quality. I really liked the Play. Had I gone with the Force from the start, it would have lasted, and I would have saved myself $2,000CAD wasted on five of them, along with the headaches. The lower price was not worth the slow performance nor poor build quality.
If you start having problems with your Play, consider moving to the Pure or Force, instead of wasting money buying another Play.
After moving to Xiaomi Mi5 for the same price, today I can honestly say that MXP is not worth the price!
And overall Moto/Lenovo is letting me down for many reasons...
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After moving to Xiaomi Mi5 for the same price, today I can honestly say that MXP is not worth the price!
And overall Moto/Lenovo is letting me down for many reasons...
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The Mi5 is an excellent choice. Lenovorola has been pooping the bed over the last couple of years, for sure. I constantly shake my head, wondering WTF they're thinking. I went with the Force because it addresses the Play's shortcomings: speed, AMOLED, AC WiFi, and build quality.
Even the Otterbox Defender for the Play is crap. The holster couldn't hold the phone in place. The phone constantly fell out in the middle of busy intersections, when running down stairs, while running in general, and twice in the snow, leaving my house. Both times, I noticed the phone was gone, halfway to work, and had to turn around. Useless! The Force holster has the same design, but has a bad-ass claw grip. I expected the worst, but it it just as sturdy (if not more) as iPhone and Galaxy holsters. I can use keep the Force in the Otter holster on my belt while on my motorcycle, without fear of losing the phone.
In addition, it has MicroUSB. I will rather not replace my plethora of Quick 2.0 chargers, Tronsmart Titans, and USB power outlets, to switch to USB C.
Interestingly enough, on 6.0, the Force was charging at 9V/4A. 35 watts!!
Right now on Nougat, it's capped at 9V/3.5A - 31.5 watts. A lot faster than most of the new "Big Boys" (Dash Charge, etc.)
Good stuff, nonetheless. Anything is a better buy than the Play.
Hi! Thank you all for the replies! At the moment I can't afford a new phone so I'm stuck with the X Play, but as soon as I get the chance it's probably going in the bin. While fiddling with the phone I discovered that it will charge when I let it boot up after the recovery mode screen, althogh it doesn't say it's charging and it's very slow. Just wanted to add that piece of info for people who might be in the same situation.
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Hi! Thank you all for the replies! At the moment I can't afford a new phone so I'm stuck with the X Play, but as soon as I get the chance it's probably going in the bin. While fiddling with the phone I discovered that it will charge when I let it boot up after the recovery mode screen, althogh it doesn't say it's charging and it's very slow. Just wanted to add that piece of info for people who might be in the same situation.
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May be Flash the latest firmware and start from scratch. see if the issues are resolved !
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I got this gadget when it first came out. I really love chunky smartphones that let you do real work on them - that's why I like the x75xx as well.
Now that credit crunch is here, and there's less to spread around, sometimes a gadget resurrected is as good as a new one. So I got my Jasjar out of its wraps and first (second) impressions are really very good. For one thing, compared with WM6, it is really very fast. What I really like is the battery life. Putting a 3G SIM in the thing is a revelation. The SIM kills my x7500, or the TyTN II, but the Jasjar seems to plough through. Plus the massive extra big batteries you can get (I have got a 3800mAh one) mean that you can use the thing during the day for all sorts of extras, namely, music on the go. That is a real plus.
There are problems of course - the lack of memory is real minus, but installing as much as I can on storage card means I can get more out of it, and using Memmaid and shutting down apps when I don't need them wrings a little more performance out it.
Which brings me to what I wanted to say: the tweak for letting it recognise SDHC cards over 2GB - the reason I migrated away from it in the first place - means I have an 8gig card in it now, with as many ebooks and songs as I could realistically want away from the office. So a big thank you to the regulars of this forum who go to the trouble of developing and publishing these things. I am really grateful. I think this is one gadget that deserves to be resurrected, with a new version, the design with the rotating screeen to tablet is just superb.
So - not a complaint, not a problem, just thanks to the regulars.
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I have to agree with you.
When I got my Exec (a £160 grab off eBay with a 4GB SIM card and all the accessories bundled) I must admit, I was skeptical. That screen, too flimsy. That layout, too buggy. That OS, too slow... But with some playing about it now runs a charm, a really nice phone to use. The only downside is having to hold what seems like a chunk of Lego next to your face when you want to take a call, and I can never remember which button is which on the spine to answer/hang up calls. So I always end up hanging up on someone before I've even answered it!!!
Right now though, it's a lovely phone. That flimsy screen can be tightened, that layout can be modified, and that OS has been upgraded to Tomal's latest.
All I got to do now, is get myself an O2 SIM which has 3G on it!! Still on PAYG, which I've been meaning to change for a while. Ah well - on the Christmas list!!!
Universal is the best device!
Even today with the new devices Uni still having one of the best screens, almost same processor than the actual ones, and a keyborad that no device can beat!
Long live to Uni! (Even if it´s big, but it felts more solid on your hand)
Very true. With its big size comes its power which is second to none. Other than memory I have no complaints with this big man. I use bluetooth headset all the time so no worries like holding it for long. My jasjar has gone through very rough handling. But still it keeps on and on. Seems like its immortal. Its been more than 3 yrs with and so many things like iphone have passed by, but nothing attracts me more than this. Some of the things which make it royal and rich are:
lavish night glow keyboard
solid metallic frame
cool brushed finish
tablet design with sturdy hinges
two perfectly placed cameras
I can spend all day writing on this micro laptop. In short, its a never ending love.
But I cant conclude without mentioning the contribution of the members of this site. Everytime I start getting a little bit bored with it, I come to this site and put on some noce softwares or flash it. My love with it becomes even more energized. Thanks guys for all your efforts.
Out of all the phones I've purchased, tried and sold...I sometimes wish I would of kept my O2 Exec.
Funny really. I keep threatening to sell my 'ol Exec.
I bought it from O2 when it was first launched and retired it 6 months ago in lieu of something a little smaller (Touch Dual Plus).
Every now and then I get it set to sell it, but I just can't bring myself to do so
I'm hoping Father Christmas will bring me a new Batt and SD card so I can resurrect it fully.
Long live the XDA Exec
Mav
I'm more and more concerned about the quality of the NookColor due to countless complaints about the display and charging issues.
I have NC on order and it makes me nerves since I'm not located in US
Did you have to replace your NookColor ?
PLEASE PEOPLE VOTE, even if you have nothing to say to get large sample of users to see if this is real problem
THANKS
107 votes now and about 30% failure rate is very bad Looks like it is not unusual to return the device several times. Shame on the manufacturer to have this kind of quality control!
Yes, I had to replace my NC (Christmas gift) within the first 2 days. However, it was due to a sound issue - also discussed on several websites - and it couldn't have been an easier process. My local B&N said that of the hundreds of NCs they'd sold, mine was only the 2nd exchanged. I think that's a pretty safe ratio. My new one has had no quality issues at all. Given that I've had to replace PCs, smartphones and other electronics for quality issues, this doesn't seem too out of the norm.
I've had to replace mine as well. First due to sound issues. Now the piece of plastic around the "N" button isn't completely flush with the screen. I'm not taking it back for that reason because the rest of the hardware is fine. I do, however, have to get a new NC cable since the one i have now won't charge my NC. If it's not one thing, it's another.
Had to replace mine too, xmas gift, due to screen quality. There was a lot of light leaking along the bottom edge and a dead pixel. Super fast and easy, even transfered the extended warranty right over to the new serial. New NC is perfect so far.
Those with sound issues what were your symptoms?
Mine's been great. I certainly wouldn't discourage anyone from buying.... I'm not discounting the issues people have had (multiple returns is certainly eyebrow-raising), but I'm sure for every problem you hear about on the forums, there are many with no problems that you just don't hear about.
Mine has been great, aside from one dead pixel. Can't even notice it for the most part, especially since adding one of the anti-glare screen covers.
Sent from my LogicPD Zoom2 using XDA App
I just replaced mine today for sound issues!! Every time it would hibernate I would lose all sounds and the only way to get them back was to reboot.
Not an issue in sight. No screen problems. No sound issues. My biggest complaint is no bluetooth.
Sent from my NC 1.0.1 AN2.12.18
Thanks for all replies folks!
I feel better now
It will be interesting to see more votes in couple days.
No problems at all here 3 weeks in. I visit the B&N forums somewhat frequently and never heard of the sound problem before reading this thread.
My biggest problem is reboots after rooting.
First one dust under screen, dead pixel dead center.
Second one dead pixel lower right corner.
If you look at various sites, you will realize that there really is a quality problem that seems to be more centralized to screen issues/plastic noise.
Also realize that most of the issues are not major hardware failures but simple flaws.
Another thing to notice is that people are willing to exchange multiple times in efforts to find a keeper because the unit is just that good.
3rd one is on it's way! 1st & 2nd one had display issues...!!! Stupid me bought it online & as a bonus, it can't be exchanged in local B&N shops...
Yep ... 5 times. 6th (current) one is great, first 5 all had dead pixels.
I suppose it does say something about how awesome I find the device (once rooted), for me to go through that much trouble driving around getting it replaced ...
Got mine on release day and have had -0- problems ... got a second one a week b4 Christmas and it also was 'perfect' .. no performance or plastic problems ... live in a 'low demand' area I think and perhaps B&N is 'reprocessing' some of the returns that then get shipped to high demand area? Or maybe it's just luck of the draw ... anyway am really pleased with the two I have ...
3 weeks of hard use and no problems, but not rooted. yet.....
My front Bezel starting becoming unstuck at day 12 of the 14 day return period. It was showing the stretching glue on the left side that creaked. I noticed it warping and looked at it in landscape mode from the top.. Surprise!
-CC
Ok, I am B&N is sending my 3rd replacement. (Not Rooted!)
1st one would not boot/reset after plugging it in to recharge.
2nd one reboots and reloads on its own. Called tech. support and had me do a factory reset but the next day did the same thing but came up with an install failure.
My cousin bought one on release date and had no problems with her's.
My first one(Tursday) came OOB with a borked USB port on the NC. I managed to get the cable inserted twice on Thursday(almost took it back the first time that I plugged it in but the cable finally went in as I was about to give up). The next morning no amount fiddling would get the connector to insert properly.
Had a horrible time exchanging it. The idiot at the register kept trying to tell me that it was "fine" and that was how it was "supposed to be" until I made him hook up the power adapter, point out no LED, took it over to the demo unit and demonstrated there, got them to get their charger out try it in the obviously defective one and couldn't insert that cable either. Finally they gave in and deigned to exchange it. After all of that I had decided to check the exchanges connector right then and there, and lo and behold it was just like the demo unit and obvious VERY clearly inserting unlike the defective unit.
B&N have crappy QA, cs, and sales. No wonder they're in trouble... I think that if anything crops up w/this one before my 14d are up its going back permanently. I probably should've bought it from the Worst Buy literally across the street or Walmart for better cs alone.
Who is manufacturing the NC for B&N ?
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IIRC correctly , the hardware is by Inventec (Taiwan). As far as problems, none... nada... zero... zilch with mine, nor have I had problems with either of the "classic" Nook ereaders that we have.
1. Turbo charger is insane
2. The screen is gorgeous
3. The battery will make a full day of work with heavy duty usage
4. Love the Moto voice
5. No Verizon logos
6. Love the looks, and the nylon back is awesome
7. I do believe the size is the sweet spot, my note's great for use, but not do much carrying it around, this beast is big enough even for my old eyes and disappears in your pocket
What else do you like about this phone?
It's very early in the turbo's life, yes I think a few things needs fixed, and I believe they will in time, reading these threads make it seem like a disaster of a phone, I'm saying there's more to love then hate.
I really don't have a problem with the phone. I'm still learning what it does. Like it telling me good afternoon and reading my text message to me today..lol
I use the phone for work and as a personal phone. The biggest thing for me getting the phone was the battery. I bought it yesterday so, I have only charged it once. When I snagged it at 7am this morning, I played Clash of Clans, checked my email, the weather ans played Spades. Bout 30 minutes. I then talked throughout the day for around 5 hours of talk time. Played COC a few more times for a couple minutes, checked emails, had google find me a FedEx box and navigate me to it and a few other random things. As I am right now, the battery is at 53%. THAT IS EFFING RETARDED!! I came from an S3. I had to charge it twice daily just to be able to make it home from work without it dying. I felt like that commercial against Apple where everyones at the airport hugging a wall. I was that guy..lol Ever gone to a college basketball game and found yourself next to the mens room charging your phone so you have enough juice to make a call on the way home in case of emergency?
I can hammer this phone with everything I got and it's going to make it through the day. I could ask for nothing more. Add in a 15 minute charge can get me 8 hours... wow.
Screen size is perfect, fabric back is cool and in a month or two I will have Lollipop and my Data and Voice at the same time back with VoLTE. I'm good to go.
Its basically the sexiest phone ever.
I was in the elevator, a lady wanted to have my babies because of the Turbo.
If thats not a job well done by Motorola, I dont knwo what is
This phone pretty much changed my life! Once I left the Verizon store and waddled over to Walmart, the chicks took notice immediately! The chicks noticed the tier 1 Kevlar on this phone so they immediately assumed I was a millionaire and asked to borrow money for something called meth?!? No way was I gonna give them money for whatever that stuff is cause they clearly needed soap way more. Once I gave them girls some soap money they drove off in their rascals into the night and that's when it happened, I caught a whiff of pall malls and mountain dew and from out of nowhere comes my dreamgirl! The sweatpants and flip flops she was wearing were just like the ones she was wearing in my dreams! Once we finished up our mickey D $1 doubles we shared a smoke and went back to my trailer and made sweet love. Thank you droid turbo!
What I like
No Verizon logos anywhere. Welcome change from my DROID DNA
Went from 2020 mAh to 3900 mAh. Battery is insane from what I'm used to
Build quality is great. My DNA creaked and flexed. The Turbo is rock solid
Moto Display is pretty cool and useful
Nearly stock Android is a huge plus
Much faster than my DNA. No stutters or lag
Charging is extremely fast and not needed often
There's plenty more but these are the most important to me.
The complaints I see, seem like they are coming from people who did not do their research, or otherwise cannot appreciate how awesome simple, stock Android is. But I agree with all of the above. Its a great phone.
I like that my wife doesn't complain about her phone anymore and tells me she's happy instead!
Just got mine at 4 this afternoon and setting up. Was really scared when I started reading all the posts about problems from Saturday to today, but coming from a DNA to this I can't seem to wipe the smile from my face.
All I can say is thank you Motorola for this great device.
My only complaint is the usb cable that came with it is too short.. But I like how it's got an indent so you can feel if you're plugging it in correctly in dark.
Coming from Samsung. I've got used to the left side back button. Wish I had a close all apps option.. Otherwise I love this effin phone....
Was a Motorola fan for years then switched to Samsung. There is something about Motorola that I love and the turbo is a wet dream come true!!!
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My only complaint is the usb cable that came with it is too short.. But I like how it's got an indent so you can feel if you're plugging it in correctly in dark.
Coming from Samsung. I've got used to the left side back button. Wish I had a close all apps option.. Otherwise I love this effin phone....
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that reverse back button will bite you in the ass..lol Im trying to get used to it. 3 years give or take with an S3 and my finger just goes there with my brain letting it happen. (to the wrong side)
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that reverse back button will bite you in the ass..lol Im trying to get used to it. 3 years give or take with an S3 and my finger just goes there with my brain letting it happen.
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Haha.. I'm adapting quick.. I was unrooting my s3 and kept hitting the menu button..
Well its good to see this thread. I was going to not buy this phone because of all the complaints. And I was going to get the nexus 6. But I have no clue when the nexus is coming out. Maybe I'll give this a try and if I don't like with within the 14 days I'll get the nexus if it's available or the note 4.
So I hit a little buyers remorse over the past day or two. I even tried to switch out for the Note 4, but it would cost me around $100 extra due to restocking fees and activation fees and blah blah. Maybe this will help.
The battery has been good. One charge a day keeps it going, and the turbo charge is spectacular. I'm coming from a SGS3 with a ZeroLemon 7000mAh battery, so I have to keep reminding myself that the battery life just wont compare.
The screen is beautiful, even if it is over saturated.
Ballistic Nylon FTW. Never had a phone where I don't immediately want to slap a case on it, although in my profession, it really really needs one.
Replacement screen is something every company should offer at least one time. I still hate microscratches, but it definitely gives me piece of mind that I don't have to run out and get a screen protector.
The camera is at least an upgrade.
Capacative buttons aren't really all that bad.
I made-do with a 32 gig micro sd card in my S3 for two years, so I guess I don't need expandable storage.
It really likes to go fast.
Lolz. Every forum on XDA fills up with complaints. The people who are enjoying their phones, which are usually the majority, are out doing other things. This is normal - I've been on here since 2006 and its always been like that. Squeaky wheel...
Likes:
Battery life (even though I'm still tweaking it)
Nearly vanilla android
great screen
no hard home button
super fast and smooth
size is good
Coming from a GS4 which I never really liked. I was missing my Galaxy Nexus goodness! I think the Turbo will serve me for quite a while as long as we get the bootloader unlocked.
I love this phone. I have had zero issues with it so far. Coming from an S4 this thing is amazing. Still learning stuff about it
Hopefully hibiese more forums to help us repair certain errors
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that reverse back button will bite you in the ass..lol Im trying to get used to it. 3 years give or take with an S3 and my finger just goes there with my brain letting it happen. (to the wrong side)
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I was so happy when Cyanogenmod made on screen navigation buttons with the correct android layout an option. I can't stand that Samsung has switched them around from what Google intended. So in all, this has been an easier transition for me than most Samsung owners.
Here's a picture of my S4 with correct navigation buttons, taken with my Turbo.
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Lolz. Every forum on XDA fills up with complaints. The people who are enjoying their phones, which are usually the majority, are out doing other things. This is normal - I've been on here since 2006 and its always been like that. Squeaky wheel...
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This is so true..
Not sure how long I've have my ZenFone 2 (ZE551ML) but I feel like it's about time I move on to another device.
Things I've replaced so far:
- Touchscreen assembly; first device I've had that seemed prone to getting its screen cracked (replaced 3 or 4 times)
- Battery; punctured the original battery while replacing the original touchscreen assembly
- Lower board/charging port; broke the first one while replacing touchscreen and again when the second one wouldn't fast charge
- Speaker; must have gotten the original one wet or something because it just suddenly stopped working
Also, I've noticed that the gyroscope, orientation, and magnetic field sensors have stopped functioning, rendering apps like Maps and Pokémon GO difficult to use.
The straw that broke the camel's back was that the screen cracked while in my pocket last night. The screen was against my thigh with nothing else in that pocket.
It has been a mostly reliable device and I would recommend it to others.
I've already ordered a new device; a Moto G4 Plus.
It's been real, guys.
Good choice mate. As a matter of fact, I have moved on as well to Moto G5S+
I always baby my phones and never dropped, damaged or even scratched a single one.
For the first time ever, I had to replace the screen of my ZE551ML due to ghost touches earlier this year... while my old Samsung Galaxy Nexus is still running strong.
Now only 6 months later, the ghost touches are back (as well as a thick dead horizontal line on the lower half of my screen) but go away when I run this app.
I have no idea why it works, but it does.
As well, whenever I scroll it reads it as a tap.
Just waiting for my Mi A1 to arrive and I'm abandoning ship.
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Good choice mate. As a matter of fact, I have moved on as well to Moto G5S+
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Looks like you made a pretty good choice too! I probably would have chosen the same phone if I had known about it, but the Moto G4 Plus was the most attractive choice that was in my price range. Plus I'm really liking the idea of having a fingerprint scanner.
Have you flashed any custom ROMs on your G5S+?
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I always baby my phones and never dropped, damaged or even scratched a single one.
For the first time ever, I had to replace the screen of my ZE551ML due to ghost touches earlier this year... while my old Samsung Galaxy Nexus is still running strong.
Now only 6 months later, the ghost touches are back (as well as a thick dead horizontal line on the lower half of my screen) but go away when I run this app.
I have no idea why it works, but it does.
As well, whenever I scroll it reads it as a tap.
Just waiting for my Mi A1 to arrive and I'm abandoning ship.
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I think the screen is the biggest issue for me. When I bought my ZF2, the screen was already cracked. Bought a new one, changed it out (with a few difficulties) and everything seemed fine. Then I started noticing that the screen would flicker every so often, especially after charging or being asleep for a while. That screen ended up cracking, followed by two more that had the bottom half of the screen becoming glitchy. The screen I have now is, for whatever reason, very sensitive and wakes up often in my pocket.
It was a good phone but I think it's increasingly obvious that its bit dated, as well as very unsupported.
Same reason here. Screen got damaged. That's why I was forced to change the mobile.
After 2½ years I got the tearing screen, bought a lcd+frame replacement on aliexpress and replaced it easily, only things I have changed on my phone, still run strong.
I cannot find another phone better that this for the price, ze551ml has an antutu of 55000, SD card, 2 SIMs, buttons not on screen taking estate, 5GHz ac wifi, NFC, quick charge, FHD display, FM radio, smart cover, etc. I got all of this for $199.
I checked the G5S+ but no NFC in the US. About all the sub $300 phone have a Snapdragon 430 which is slower than this 3yo Intel.
Even the G4+ with a snapdragon 617 is slower than the ZF2 in all becnhmark.
Things like Zenfone 4 Max only has a 720p display, slower CPU, no 5GHz, no NFC, no quick charge, nothing!!!
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Things I've replaced so far:
- Touchscreen assembly; first device I've had that seemed prone to getting its screen cracked (replaced 3 or 4 times)
- Battery; punctured the original battery while replacing the original touchscreen assembly
- Lower board/charging port; broke the first one while replacing touchscreen and again when the second one wouldn't fast charge
- Speaker; must have gotten the original one wet or something because it just suddenly stopped working
It's been real, guys.
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The Only thing in this list i didnt replace (yet) is the touchscreen.
I'm moving on too. I'm too old for this phone
I'm on a trail of a Moto G5 Plus potter.
I'll loose 2gb RAM but it's a nice phone either way and there's a plenty of development for it right now (this made me choose it over Xiaomi Mi A1).
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After 2½ years I got the tearing screen, bought a lcd+frame replacement on aliexpress and replaced it easily, only things I have changed on my phone, still run strong.
I cannot find another phone better that this for the price, ze551ml has an antutu of 55000, SD card, 2 SIMs, buttons not on screen taking estate, 5GHz ac wifi, NFC, quick charge, FHD display, FM radio, smart cover, etc. I got all of this for $199.
I checked the G5S+ but no NFC in the US. About all the sub $300 phone have a Snapdragon 430 which is slower than this 3yo Intel.
Even the G4+ with a snapdragon 617 is slower than the ZF2 in all becnhmark.
Things like Zenfone 4 Max only has a 720p display, slower CPU, no 5GHz, no NFC, no quick charge, nothing!!!
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Yeah, I was kind of bummed out they the G4+ doesn't have NFC but I don't really use NFC anyway. I also noticed that the clock speed for the processor for the G4+ is a tad lower than the ZF2; I'm fine with that though. At this point, I'd rather something with better support than slightly better specs.
Other than the processor, they're basically identical: 5.5" 1080x1920 screen, 64GB ROM, 4GB RAM. And I'm really liking the idea of having a fingerprint scanner.
And, actually, according to this, the processor in the G4+ is slightly better:
https://versus.com/en/intel-atom-z3580-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-617
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The Only thing in this list i didnt replace (yet) is the touchscreen.
I'm moving on too. I'm too old for this phone
I'm on a trail of a Moto G5 Plus potter.
I'll loose 2gb RAM but it's a nice phone either way and there's a plenty of development for it right now (this made me choose it over Xiaomi Mi A1).
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Have you looked on Swappa? I had seen a G5+ for about $200 (for the 64GB; $170 for the 32GB) on there yesterday. I mean, that's assuming that you're in the US. https://swappa.com/buy/moto-g5-plus-unlocked
The G4+ that I ended up buying only cost me $150. As I've mentioned, the one I'm getting doesn't really lose anything except for NFC but I don't really use that anyway.
To me, the ZF2 is like an old car; works really well when you take care of it but the cost of maintaining ends up being too much and it's just cheaper in the long run to get something a little newer.
The only thing I had to replace (under warranty) was the battery, never had any other problems. Still using Zenfone 2 after two years and a half because I don't have any issues with it. Will eventually change it too, but I guess that will be when the phone won't keep up with apps and games anymore or when it gets damaged somehow.
Ragarianok said:
Have you looked on Swappa? I had seen a G5+ for about $200 (for the 64GB; $170 for the 32GB) on there yesterday. I mean, that's assuming that you're in the US. https://swappa.com/buy/moto-g5-plus-unlocked
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I'm from Brazil. We dont have shawarma Swappa here.
Ragarianok said:
To me, the ZF2 is like an old car; works really well when you take care of it but the cost of maintaining ends up being too much and it's just cheaper in the long run to get something a little newer.
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Perfect analogy.
C-Ph87 said:
I'm from Brazil. We dont have shawarma Swappa here.
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That's a bummer. :/
I have my ZE551ML for something like two years now. I moving to the Galaxy S7 in a week. I really tired of the battery life, I have to charge my phone twice a day if I have a long day...
The Zenfone was a good option because it was cheap but now, it's time to move !
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I have my ZE551ML for something like two years now. I moving to the Galaxy S7 in a week. I really tired of the battery life, I have to charge my phone twice a day if I have a long day...
The Zenfone was a good option because it was cheap but now, it's time to move !
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The battery life was pretty good at the beginning but I noticed that the battery started draining fairly quickly, even when the phone was just sitting on my desk overnight.
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The Only thing in this list i didnt replace (yet) is the touchscreen.
I'm moving on too. I'm too old for this phone
I'm on a trail of a Moto G5 Plus potter.
I'll loose 2gb RAM but it's a nice phone either way and there's a plenty of development for it right now (this made me choose it over Xiaomi Mi A1).
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LIfe's wierd.
Spend days tracking prices of retail Moto G5 Plus Potter...
Ended up buying a Redmi Note 4x Mido...
I'm no hardware guru, but have a minor league rep among my friends for being able to resurrect computers and phones. The other day, a friend handling his company's phone needs handed me a OnePlus 2, made in China back in 2015 and which caused quite a buzz as "The Flagship Killer." "Do what you can... it's all yours," he said. Hmm.
The problem with my new problem phone remains undiagnosed, though the symptoms are many spontaneous reboots and sometimes just downright lock-ups with black screen. Now... what would *you* do with your Samsung Note 4 if you got a lock-up? I'll answer that rhetorical question. I'd open up the back of the phone (about five seconds) pop out the battery, pop it back in (about 3 seconds), close up the back and hit the on button. And nearly always, it reboots happily.
You just don't know how good you have it until you are faced with this same task holding a OnePlus2 (or any OnePlus if I understand right). First, off comes the back of the phone. Five seconds, cool. BUT... what is this? A second "inner" back, this one with - count 'em - 18 tiny phillips head screws. Oh, and six of them have tiny rubber plugs over the top of 'em. And oh, don't forget to remove the dual sim card holder before you pull that baby off. And when you unscrew that little last screw with the white paper top on it? You *just voided your warranty*. (Though the 2015 date on these makes that unimportant now.)
A heck of a lot longer than what I described with the Note 4 in this situation. Hold your Note 4 in your hand and be glad.... be very glad.
But now comes the battery. It isn't easily removable (wedged tightly into its seat and taped beneath with some infernal stuff). But the good news, unless you're replacing it, is this: Unplug it, replug it. A little square plug that though odd can be undone with the edge of a finger nail. Plug it back in. And let's say the phone reboots with out trouble.
Great! So now I put the back(s) on again, after all those screws... only to have the phone suddenly lock up again. And not start. With any button combination.
The only Note 4 I've seen do that consistently is one smitten with the dreaded emmc memory errors. But the OnePlus community forums are filled with people trying to figure out how to reboot their phones after such mysterious shut-downs. Half of the "answers" look suspiciously like voodoo. Look, the OnePlus2 is a year newer than the Note 4, and it does have a really nice fingerprint pad right on the front. And it works great (I did get to use it for a while before it once again shut off). But did I mention that though it can run two sim cards, neither one will allow for a micro-sd card? Look again at your lowly Note 4, and be glad.
I am *really* loving my Samsung Note 4 right now. And whatever comes in the future, any phone I use must have a removable battery, not to mention the extra micro-sd slot. The OnePlus 2? Pretty much, because of the insane battery design, this is how *not* to engineer a phone. (I won't diss the not so great screen... because I have a Note 4 with a great screen and mocking others without such a nice screen just wouldn't be nice.)
So... what have we learned?
Never buy a phone without an easily removable battery.
Never buy a phone that restarts constantly, in part because of (see above line).
And....
Look again at your Note 4, which you own. Yes, you made that decision. You could have had a OnePlus2. Yikes! And good job!!
I had already made a clear decision never to buy a phone with a non-replaceable battery but manufacturers have been deliberately making this extremely difficult and our options are becoming much more limited. The market has not been driven by what consumers demand but rather by what manufacturers dictate.