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Anyone else notice that the battery cover doubles as a case?

The battery cover is really unique on the device in that is covers alot of the device, especially the parts that are prone to dents and scratches when dropped. If you drop it and hopefully if it doesnt land on the screen side all you really have to do is replace the back cover for probably really cheap (less than $10 i'd imagine on ebay) and you are back to square one! Nice idea motorola! I hope it was intentional.

I think Engadget said the screen was gorilla glass. It shouldn't have any effect if you drop it.

tassadar898 said:
The battery cover is really unique on the device in that is covers alot of the device, especially the parts that are prone to dents and scratches when dropped. If you drop it and hopefully if it doesnt land on the screen side all you really have to do is replace the back cover for probably really cheap (less than $10 i'd imagine on ebay) and you are back to square one! Nice idea motorola! I hope it was intentional.
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I think Engadget said the screen was gorilla glass. It shouldn't have any effect if you drop it.
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The battery cover is NOT a case - its a battery cover
Dropping any phone with gorilla glass and having it land on the screen can and most likely will break/shatter the screen - its NOT indestructable... it will even scratch.

scratch proof does not mean shock proof.
if the material is harder, it may be scratch proof. In addition, the stiffness is also increased, so the materil is brittle

Hm. Perhaps I was wrong, I saw a video of some guy stabbing a Dell with gorilla glass with a pen and he just wiped the ink off and was still the same.

i agree with the OP... i LOVE the cover design... it rounds around the corner and if ever gets nicked, just get a new battery door.... yeah its kind of a ***** to take off.... but i really dont do that often.... AWESOME battery door design!

you know what, i'd never actually looked at my phone until just now, and i see what you mean. i cant believe i never noticed this

anyone else notice that on a cold day the phone feels like one of those water filoled balloon tubes with a hole in the center and is damn near impossible to move around in one hand without almost juggling it?
AKA: it's damn slippery

art3mis-nyc said:
anyone else notice that on a cold day the phone feels like one of those water filoled balloon tubes with a hole in the center and is damn near impossible to move around in one hand without almost juggling it?
AKA: it's damn slippery
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YES! I will be investing in a rubberized case of some sort.
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Nice description. You mean the water balloon torus? Or if that doesnt help, like a elongated donut.
I haven't had trouble with slippage, but I do note that any bit of moisture or food grease really makes it slick. Just keep your hands clean.
I really like the prospect of battery door designs, as well as its ease of replacement in case of scratches. No entirely new body parts, just one battery door.

Screen Protectors?

So this phone is made with gorilla glass, do you guys think that we're gonna need a screen protector for it? I mean, it was only $199, so.... thoughts?

Augman said:
So this phone is made with gorilla glass, do you guys think that we're gonna need a screen protector for it? I mean, it was only $199, so.... thoughts?
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Like all Blu phones, it comes with screen protectors and a case in the box. I'm sure there will be third party protectors cases out eventually.

Augman said:
So this phone is made with gorilla glass, do you guys think that we're gonna need a screen protector for it? I mean, it was only $199, so.... thoughts?
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I picked up a few extra front and back protectors on eBay today. Always a good idea if you aren't going to use a case...even with G glass.

millertimefl said:
I picked up a few extra front and back protectors on eBay today. Always a good idea if you aren't going to use a case...even with G glass.
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Okay, i'll heed your advice. Could you drop a link? Thanks!

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231461497167&alt=web
I am happy with this protector.

Augman said:
So this phone is made with gorilla glass, do you guys think that we're gonna need a screen protector for it? I mean, it was only $199, so.... thoughts?
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Personally, I never use screen protectors or cases for my phones. I still have my Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and other than a few gouges in the plastic surround and some very light scratches, it's fine. That's a phone that I've dropped and outright thrown towards the ground (by accident, of course) multiple times. I would say that the Galaxy SIII just as strong, except the SIII's larger size and grippier plastic meant that it fell out of my hands a LOT less often than the Fascinate. (Disclaimer: my SIII did get smashed up, but it was my fault for leaving it somewhere I shouldn't have and it was destroyed by a very large force.) My LG Volt is a very cheap phone. It's more susceptible to scratching, as its screen is some sort of cheap plastic, but even that phone has withstood a few drops and frequent pocket traffic without any major problems.
I keep my right pocket free of everything but my phone. So perhaps if you're throwing keys in there with the phone, or other objects, your results may vary, but I always like to keep my phone separate to keep it nice, with the side benefit of making it easier to pull out without extra stuff in that pocket.
I've had great luck with the Gorilla Glass though. The plastic on my other phones definitely took more of a beating than the glass itself, and it's worth noting that when I was using the Fascinate, I was working in irrigation where my phone got accidentally tossed around quite a bit, in rocks and dirt, and it still looks great. And again, the physical shape of that phone made it much more prone to coming out of my hands than something like the SIII or Vivo Air.
I wish the Air had the length and width of the SIII, which makes it an easy phone to hold IMO, and the glass back isn't quite as grippy as the smooth plastic on the SIII, but I don't forsee any major issues having held the phone for a while now, and the Air has the benefit of being lighter which seems to help keep it in my hands a bit better (in other words, if it were the same size and shape, but with the weight of the SIII, I feel like it would be a bit more prone to falling out of my hand).
All of this being said, I think what it boils down to is how you treat your phone and what you expect out of it. If you treat it relatively carefully, and don't expect perfect glass after a year, then I don't see the problem with using it naked. If you're prone to breaking screens, then by all means get something but I don't actually think a screen protector will help you. I repair phones and tablets for a living and I see all sorts of shattered screens, yet I've never shattered a screen on my own. Personally, I'm not going to put anything on the Air because I dislike cases that add bulk to the size (the size is part of the reason why I bought it) and I feel that screen protectors do more to interfere with touch input than anything else.
It's kind of like when someone buys a TV and doesn't remove the plastic wrap that's meant to keep it looking nice during shipping, and then ten years later it's peeling badly and there's dust and junk sticking to it.. Yeah, it may still look great once you peel it all off but since it's still there, it looks like crap and it's time to junk the TV anyway, so what good did leaving that plastic on actually do? I replace shattered iPhone and iPad digitizers all the time on devices that have screen protectors on them. Screen protectors don't protect the glass from excessive shock.
All in all, I think the Air is a phone that fits very well in my hands and definitely feels grippy enough not to have to worry about dropping. Because of that, and due to its extremely sleek shape and style, I feel like it's a crime to weigh it down with bulky protectors. I'm going to use it as-is and if anything happens to it, a replacement is only $200, which is not a bad price really. I'm confident I can use the phone for at least a year without causing any major problems, which is good enough for me for a $200 phone (especially since I paid $125 for this Volt and it's unusable after only about 6 months).
PS- Sorry for the wall of text.

Ordered the S7 Edge, I'm scared I'll drop it and break it....

Currently I'm using an S5 without any cases or covers, and it's still drop-proof, dropped it multiple times on hard floor/concrete and there is no damage on the screen what so ever. And before that I had an HTC One X, which is probably more similar to the Edge in that the screen isn't protected if it drops face down, I did eventually crack it with that kind of a drop. However the edge is gonna be even more problematic because even the back is glass, and no plastic protruding edge to protect it.
Sure I could put it in a bulky case but then it kind of defeats the purpose of having one of the most premium feeling phones ever doesn't it? It'll also negate any ergonomic benefits of the curved back edge as well as the ease of edge swipe on the front edge. Might as well just get something like a.... I don't know, nobody makes high end plastic phones anymore now days, even cheap phones like One Plus is front+back curved glass. Also this thing is already a bigger phone than what I'm used to, adding a beefy case is just gonna make it that much bigger, which I do not like.
Well I guess plenty of people did survive the iPhone 4 glass sandwich era just fine, I'll just have to wish myself luck. I wonder how much would one of those adhesive skins help in a drop situation. Sure they are very thin but if think about the physics of it, gorilla glass is actually quite flexible so it doesn't break from the acceleration of the impact itself, so thinness doesn't really matter. What actually breaks these surface hardens glass is usually a microscopic failure on the surface developing into a big crack. And those microscopic failures can happen when they make contact with sharp hard stuff like individual sand particles, they effectively puncture the surface and develop a weakness. So if you have a skin on the glass, what'll hopefully happen instead is that the skin will be thick enough for the particle to not make direct contact with the glass, and prevent breaking. Even though such thin skins cannot significantly reduce the impact acceleration.

I understand your points, but please, don't ever try to use this phone naked. You NEED a case, the grip is so bad that dropping it is almost a guarantee and the back glass seems to be much more fragile than the front glass from what I have seen in videos. About the cases, you may want to look into the Samsung official plastic backs or (when available) the leather backs. The official plastic back cases from Samsung are the only ones (in my opinion) that really do not ruin the phone's design, the design remains almost intact. However, while the grip is much improved over the naked phone, it is nowhere near other bulky and rubberized cases. A rubberized plastic wrap would be a solution, but the big problem still remains - the metal sides of the phone which are very narrow.
PS: As I understand from the latest spy pics, the iPhone 7 will have a glass back again...probably needed for radio/charging/payment/other secret developments.

There are plenty of case available that won't make the phone look s**t. I'm using a Spigen Crystal Clear, a very good combination of protection and looks. It's impossible to completely keep the phone's look and feel, but it's probably as close as possible whilst being confident of being able to accidentally drop it from pocket height without damage.
Glass protectors on these curved screens are to be avoided, that's my personal opinion anyway. My brother bought numerous types of these for his S6 Edge (expensive and cheap) and not one went on properly without raising on the curves within twenty minutes, causing touch problems on the edges. Go for a good quality film type like a Zagg HD Dry.

I copied you entirely mate I'm not ashamed to say. Got my Spigen Crystal Clear yesterday and, your right, it does look good, but not as good as the nekkid phone itself. But I guess that's the price of good protection.
Just waiting for my Zagg HD Dry front and back covers to arrive today.

I'm personally using Otter Box Commuter for me and my wife's phone. I was able to try it on in store before purchasing. I was sort of desperate for a case on delivery day and it was the most protective case I found. I'm happy with it overall. It's sleep and slim and although the whole front in uncovered it does have raised top and bottom edges so if the phone falls flat the screen doesn't actually touch the floor.
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Use it naked.
Control your fingers.

nobnut said:
Use it naked.
Control your fingers.
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Too risky lol
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I would love to use the phone naked as it just looks so good, but I am scared to risk it. I have never dropped and cracked a phone, and I had an Iphone 4S without a case for 2 years which were well known for getting smashed, I have a clear case on the edge at the moment to offer it some protection.

Carrying and using smart phones without any case is just asking for trouble. I have the S7 Edge and when it arrived on March 2nd it stayed at home in the box until my Spigen Ultra Hybrid case arrived (which was a few days later). I was still using my S5 because I didn't want to take any chances.
After my case arrived I put it on but I still keep the original plastic film on the screen because I was waiting for my Skinomi screen protector to arrive. My Skinomi arrived yesterday and I installed it last night.
So if you don't want a bulky case get the Spigen Ultra Hybrid (I went with the crystal clear color). I ordered my case and screen protector from Amazon. The case is very nice looking and doesn't add any bulk to the phone.

Sk17z0 said:
but I still keep the original plastic film on
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Oh my.

I'm using this case. It's amazing. Thin, easy to grip and not too expensive.
http://www.bodyguardz.com/unequal-shock-case-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html

I use the phone naked and dropped it from about 3,5 feet, first it hit the steel base of a table and than it bounced on a wooden floor, not a scratch :angel:

Juuls said:
I use the phone naked and dropped it from about 3,5 feet, first it hit the steel base of a table and than it bounced on a wooden floor, not a scratch :angel:
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Q.E.D.

I just bought the galaxy s8. Should I get a case or a skin?

I would normally buy a case because it is safer and this phone is so damn expensive (it had been a long time since I had purchased a phone and I did not know prices were that high)... But the device is so mind-blowingly gorgeous that I'm considering a skin. I rarely drop my phone but, in the eventuality (it will happen) that I drop it, will a skin protect it? From what kind of falls? And if I end up buying one, which company should I turn to (obviously I heard of dbrand but I don't know about the alternatives)? Also if you think I should get a case, which one would you recommend that still lets me appreciate the aesthetics of the phone?
Thank your for your time.

A skin will protect it against scratches but that's about it, there's plenty of thin clear cases on ebay that will give you some protection.

I'm also wondering if I should buy a case or not.
Didn't Samsung advertise that the front screen and back screen are Gorilla Glass 5? This means they are scratch-proof yes?
The phone is absolutely gorgeous and using a case / cover makes the look a bit dull. I have been using the phone without cover for a few weeks now and thankfully, no scratches so far. I hope I can keep it the same way.
What is your idea guys?

definitely a case, im getting the tough armor myself . I already shattered the back panel :silly:

meshaun said:
I'm also wondering if I should buy a case or not.
Didn't Samsung advertise that the front screen and back screen are Gorilla Glass 5? This means they are scratch-proof yes?
The phone is absolutely gorgeous and using a case / cover makes the look a bit dull. I have been using the phone without cover for a few weeks now and thankfully, no scratches so far. I hope I can keep it the same way.
What is your idea guys?
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Yes Gorilla glass 5. Scratch proof? NO!!!
I like to think I was babying my phone. I had it in my pocket tried to avoid having keys in with pocket ect while I figure out case/skin situation. I am already noticing very fine scratches on the front and back. Not too bad at all, but if you look you can see them, and I do know they are there.
I am contemplating insurance for the phone because if the glass cracks that would totally blow. But I don't want a fat case because the phone is pushing the size limit for me. I will most likely go with ultra slim case and Whitestone glass protector.
Bottom line, get SOMETHING for it asap. You would think it would be tougher when it comes to simple scratches, but not so much. I've had mine since launch.

I will recommend you the case I have got. It's clear slim case from aicek https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0...=DMN9FAPAZX942JJGC4VS&dpPl=1&dpID=61itnhJDTBL
Like it a lot. Gives proper protection to the screen and edges but it's slim and s8 looks great in it.
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I bought a Spigen Case Thin Fit for a S7 Edge that I had for a day. When I bought the S8 I went looking for the same case and I totally love it!

Just get the Elago Origin Case for Galaxy S8 in amazon. It's as thin as paper or phone skins (0.35mm) and you can easily remove / put it back whenever you want. It's having the protection you need but not sacrificing the design and feel of the phone which is why you've bought it in the first place.
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meshaun said:
I'm also wondering if I should buy a case or not.
Didn't Samsung advertise that the front screen and back screen are Gorilla Glass 5? This means they are scratch-proof yes?
The phone is absolutely gorgeous and using a case / cover makes the look a bit dull. I have been using the phone without cover for a few weeks now and thankfully, no scratches so far. I hope I can keep it the same way.
What is your idea guys?
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I got a slight scratch within two days of owning it. I never put it with my keys and always in my pocket. I know many others are saying they've already received scratches so no, the screen is far from scratch resistant.

It doesn't make sense to not use a case. Glass front and back, one drop could be all it takes. In fact, one drop on concrete or a hard surface will leave damage. With a slim TPU case 99% of the time there won't be any damage in the same instance.
As far as the display, I normally use tempered screen protectors, but those don't really work with the curved edges. Better off to get some kind of wrap-around wet application protector for the display. One can use an S8 tablet wet-fit protector and cut it to fit the length of the phone wrapping it around the back on both sides, or there is one being made that actually wraps over the curved edges adhering to the back of the phone that looks good too. Going naked on the display WILL end up with scratches of some kind at some point. Really depends on how you are using your phone. But even the most careful will still accumulate some damage, that's just how it works in the real world. These devices were not built to last decades.

Both ha I got a dbrands skin which i love purely because its pretty much the equivalent of goin naked but it doesnt attract finger prints etc! I did buy a case too but i lasted a week with it lol Iam forever buying cases and after a few days i take them off! It just ruins how the phone feels in hand and for me it almost makes using it less enjoyable! Currently using just a skin which i probably isnt recommended but personally iam pretty careful with my phones and have yet to ever break a screen (touch wood)

I got a case and a screen protector yesterday. I grabbed a cheap case by Lohasic while waiting on the Samsung promotion with the free case, sd card, and netflix subscription. Unfortunately the case does push the screen protector off the sides even though the screen protector was apparently"case friendly." It is hard to decide to put a case on it because it looks so good. No case I know of doesn't ruin the look of the phone.

I too put the phone in a case now. A very very thin case so that it won't be noticeable and still displays the best looks of the phone. Phew. Thanks guys.

I had a skin and a glass protector on my first S8+ and the front glass shattered under the protector on a 2 foot drop onto tile floor.
My second S8+ had a Spigen Neo Hybrid, and dropped on 1 drop onto gravel.
Baby those phones people.

Ergonomics (in-hand feel)

Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Xiaomi Poco F1 feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Very comfortable in hand, hardware buttons are well placed, for the finger print scanner, some may have had that concern due to proximity to the camera lens but that fear may not be true as the scanner is recessed a bit and easy to locate.

Included Case
The case I got is very poor quality and can be easily removed not perfect fit. Does anyone have same issue. It's very loose fit feels phone ccan fall from this if you don't hold it tight.

Garshasp007 said:
The case I got is very poor quality and can be easily removed not perfect fit. Does anyone have same issue. It's very loose fit feels phone ccan fall from this if you don't hold it tight.
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This included case is for temporary use until you buy one. At this budget don't expect for the quality, just enjoy the performance of the device :silly:

The in hand feel is great. I have owned Mi4i before, and honestly, i have no issues with the polycarbonate back, it does wonders for gripping, and compensates the weight for that huge battery underneath. My only two grievances with the device are it's weight ( coming from a MI5 here, that was 129 grams), it kinda hurts my hand when using for longer periods of time. And the second is that palm rejection is poor, besides that, its awesome for the price, the buttons feel clicky, and the device stays cool

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The in hand feel is great. I have owned Mi4i before, and honestly, i have no issues with the polycarbonate back, it does wonders for gripping, and compensates the weight for that huge battery underneath. My only two grievances with the device are it's weight ( coming from a MI5 here, that was 129 grams), it kinda hurts my hand when using for longer periods of time. And the second is that palm rejection is poor, besides that, its awesome for the price, the buttons feel clicky, and the device stays cool
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In hand feel is just like any other phone out there. You won't feel the unpremiumness that much at all.
But yes the device a bit on the heavier side.
PS: get the screen protector.

Been using the phone for 72 hours now. In the beginning the in-hand feel was quite difficult since i am jumping from a 5.5in and felt heavy too. But now have gotten used to it. The stock case feels and fits quite bad, going for a new one asap.

Can I ask a question that some of you may feel very basic!
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In hand feel is just like any other phone out there. You won't feel the unpremiumness that much at all.
But yes the device a bit on the heavier side.
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Why should the screen protector be used and by "screen protector" do you mean tempered glass?
If yes,
If it is to prevent scratches, doesn't gorilla glass 3 take care of that?
My nexus 5 had gorilla glass 3. I had used a tempered glass for some days but felt the touch feel inferior and hence removed the tempered glass and didn't have any scratches until the phone died after 2 years because I messed up the battery circuit.
If you mean back cover then I can understand, I had used pu back cover with nexus 5 and it survived 2 falls with that. Poco f1 on the other hand might need a strong body armor, I'm not confident about the glass as it's a taller display and edge to edge 2.5d glass.
Having said that, if the edges of back cover protrude up around the scren and wrap it, so as to protect the screen (as in case of my nexus 5),when placed face down, will the full screen gesture control still work on Poco f1?!

PD2091 said:
Why should the screen protector be used and by "screen protector" do you mean tempered glass?
If yes,
If it is to prevent scratches, doesn't gorilla glass 3 take care of that?
My nexus 5 had gorilla glass 3. I had used a tempered glass for some days but felt the touch feel inferior and hence removed the tempered glass and didn't have any scratches until the phone died after 2 years because I messed up the battery circuit.
If you mean back cover then I can understand, I had used pu back cover with nexus 5 and it survived 2 falls with that. Poco f1 on the other hand might need a strong body armor, I'm not confident about the glass as it's a taller display and edge to edge 2.5d glass.
Having said that, if the edges of back cover protrude up around the scren and wrap it, so as to protect the screen (as in case of my nexus 5),when placed face down, will the full screen gesture control still work on Poco f1?!
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I drop my phone a lot. Me not that much but sometimes my sister or her children get hold of the phone and you can imagine the rest. I have owned 4 phones all broken in the first few months. So any kind of protection is most welcome here. And no I'm not worried about scratches, that'd be silly.
I don't know if the protrusion would be that far up so as to interfere with touch.
Any suggestions how to protect the 2.5d curved edged screen from drops?

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I drop my phone a lot. Me not that much but sometimes my sister or her children get hold of the phone and you can imagine the rest. I have owned 4 phones all broken in the first few months. So any kind of protection is most welcome here. And no I'm not worried about scratches, that'd be silly.
I don't know if the protrusion would be that far up so as to interfere with touch.
Any suggestions how to protect the 2.5d curved edged screen from drops?
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I am getting my tempered glass tomorrow, will revert about the impact it has on gestures

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I am getting my tempered glass tomorrow, will revert about the impact it has on gestures
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I put on a real cheap (₹100) tempered glass which doesn't even cover the whole screen and the touch response is great.

sayHello21 said:
I drop my phone a lot. Me not that much but sometimes my sister or her children get hold of the phone and you can imagine the rest. I have owned 4 phones all broken in the first few months. So any kind of protection is most welcome here. And no I'm not worried about scratches, that'd be silly.
I don't know if the protrusion would be that far up so as to interfere with touch.
Any suggestions how to protect the 2.5d curved edged screen from drops?
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I love rhinosheild bumper case.
Really hope that they have it for poco f1.
Still cant find any bumper case for poco yet...

ronald_loulan said:
I love rhinosheild bumper case.
Really hope that they have it for poco f1.
Still cant find any bumper case for poco yet...
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Rhinoshield and Spigen, if only they made cases for Xiaomi

aditya1999 said:
The in hand feel is great. I have owned Mi4i before, and honestly, i have no issues with the polycarbonate back, it does wonders for gripping, and compensates the weight for that huge battery underneath. My only two grievances with the device are it's weight ( coming from a MI5 here, that was 129 grams), it kinda hurts my hand when using for longer periods of time. And the second is that palm rejection is poor, besides that, its awesome for the price, the buttons feel clicky, and the device stays cool
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Hi, Is the rear of Poco as soft and grippy as the Mi4i? I believe it will be same for all the colored backs, Blue black..
I love phones where you do not need to apply cover and just a screen guard works! (Tantrums of a OPO owner!)

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Hi, Is the rear of Poco as soft and grippy as the Mi4i? I believe it will be same for all the colored backs, Blue black..
I love phones where you do not need to apply cover and just a screen guard works! (Tantrums of a OPO owner!)
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Yes, its matt finish, just like the Mi4i. Its not exactly soft, the phone definately slips, but its better than metal and glass. You can use it without a cover, but I reckon the back will pick up scratches, i went for a camouflage skin for the back, makes it grippy and still keeps the phone just as thin( i mean 8.8 mm isn't exactly thin, but with a cover this phone would be hard to hold).
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In hand feel is just like any other phone out there. You won't feel the unpremiumness that much at all.
But yes the device a bit on the heavier side.
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Nah. Touch response without one is simply something I am not willing to give up, maybe a matt lamination in the future, but nothing for now.

the frame made of plastic or aluminium?

maXDAmn said:
the frame made of plastic or aluminium?
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Plastic with plastic buttons

Hunteres said:
Plastic with plastic buttons
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so, no metal here? because i will try to make a liquid metal mod if it's true :laugh:

maXDAmn said:
so, no metal here? because i will try to make a liquid metal mod if it's true :laugh:
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Nope..all plastic.... Sorry

watsinaname said:
Rhinoshield and Spigen, if only they made cases for Xiaomi
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Actually Spigen will make cases for Poco F1, they confirmed to me yesterday, but they said they don't have an ETA just yet.