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Discussion: TouchWiz 4.1.2 vs. Android 4.3

Hello.
I'm in the mood for some discussion. Currently waging which rom to install on my note, TouchWiz or latest android (4.3). How would you people rate a 4.1.2 rom built on correct sources against the latest version of Android? Performance, battery and user friendly wise.
Bring it on!
/pemell

This is the original Galaxy Note (GT-N7000) forum.

Jeez, just realised that. Was looking my ass off to find my thread
Actually, I own a N7000 device too so why not let it stay, I'll just change the op a little.

Built on correct sources? Grmpf... They (Samsung) don't provide proper sourced, but if they did, I would prefer an aftermarket firmware version of Android 4.3 with correct sources over a Gingerbread UI built Touchwiz rom... Or even a Galaxy Note Google Edition would suite my Note well

but... how is an aosp 4.3 in comparison with TW 4.1.2? i searched a lot but i dont find any comments about the batterie or the overal performance... and what about the spen? is there a note taking app in aosp?

Touchjeez sux!

I'd rather trust my nethers to a lunatic with a Burdizzo than have TW on my Note.

it is so simple
if you are looking for speed , stability and up-to-date go with aosp or cm
if you you want s-pen stuff and more useless stuff like smart stay the tw will be your target
P.s : i bought the note just for the spen feature so i think i will stick with TW for a while

AA1973 said:
Built on correct sources? Grmpf... They (Samsung) don't provide proper sourced, but if they did, I would prefer an aftermarket firmware version of Android 4.3 with correct sources over a Gingerbread UI built Touchwiz rom... Or even a Galaxy Note Google Edition would suite my Note well
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chasmodo said:
I'd rather trust my nethers to a lunatic with a Burdizzo than have TW on my Note.
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AA1973, chasmodo, you're still here in the n7000 section. Even if I never knew you by person or chatted with you on this forum It was heart touching seeing your replies in this thread.
I'm on SlimBean v.8 stable currently on my N7105 and jellybeer on my N7000. I'm thinking of switching to TW on my N7105 to get the best out of the battery. My knowledge says TW has better battery life. I might be wrong.
A deal breaker for me is that I had my current theme chooser theme ported for touchwiz.

I don't use SPen in a daily basis but now and then when I have to annotate picture, my Note shines. Once I had to go buy handbag for my lady and there were two dozen at the store neatly decorated. I snapped, numbered them from 1 to 20 using SPen and sent picture through Whatsapp.
If one buys Note to put ROM that doesn't support SPen, then I don't understand why they buy Note at all?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

You don't need to understand. Of course, the SPen does work. Not identically as on a Touchdizz Rom, but you're able to draw 1-20 on pictures, fore sure
Papyrus, Jotter, Gnote, Memo Beta, Skitch are some apps as alternative to S-Not.

AA1973 said:
You don't need to understand. Of course, the SPen does work. Not identically as on a Touchdizz Rom, but you're able to draw 1-20 on pictures, fore sure
Papyrus, Jotter, Gnote, Memo Beta, Skitch are some apps as alternative to S-Not.
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but chief you are going to miss a lot of features like gestures and s-note and i did not find a decent alternate to s-note yet

I only got the Note for its Hardware so i can stick an AOSP inside in it.
I dont use Stylus. Never wanted to.
4.1.2 vs 4.3 is Light years a head Maybe more than a year when you can think of an update if they are even planning to provide one.
You never know Samsung can surprise us

umbrella android said:
but chief you are going to miss a lot of features like gestures and s-note and i did not find a decent alternate to s-note yet
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The most important gestures *for me* are integrated in CM, AOSPA, slimbean etc: Left, right, up and down swipe as well as long press and double tap.
Actions to be chosen are back, home, menu, recent apps or you choose a specific app to be launched. That's enough for me.
No, personally, I think I do not miss S-note and I definitely do not miss Touchwiz
The infamous screenshot feature via S-Pen or the hand can easily be replaced
The SPen wasn't the killer feature and reason I bought the Note. It was nice to have, but not a must have for me. The main reason at that moment of time was the screen size and some other hardware specs. But this is way OT for a 4.12 vs 4.3 discussion

I was thinking of buying a new phone because touchwiz was so slow now and I thought that was the norm of phones used for more than a year.
As last desperation I installed asylum 4.3 and I just saved myself a whack of money because finally this phone is usable again.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

umbrella android said:
but chief you are going to miss a lot of features like gestures and s-note and i did not find a decent alternate to s-note yet
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try InNote really good snote replacement.:good:

rom
can any one upload
gennxt rom for galaxy note n7000
its really amazinggggg
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can anyone plz provide me
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Show me one AOSP/CM ROM that is as stable and battery friendly as TouchWiz... right, there is none. Still, like we men tend to do stupid things like ducktaping us to the ceiling, we throw away stock stable experience for flashing madness )
My favorite TouchWiz-ROM: Live Note 5.2 (well its just stock)
Favorite AOSP-ROMs: Utackas Paranoid android (fairly stable overall), FSC ROM (awesome customizations)

ritvik1423 said:
can anyone plz provide me
gennxt rom for galaxy note n7000
plz quick replyyy
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We coullllddd butttt weeee don'tttt wantttt tooooo.

Ravensysteam said:
Show me one AOSP/CM ROM that is as stable and battery friendly as TouchWiz... right, there is none. Still, like we men tend to do stupid things like ducktaping us to the ceiling, we throw away stock stable experience for flashing madness )
My favorite TouchWiz-ROM: Live Note 5.2 (well its just stock)
Favorite AOSP-ROMs: Utackas Paranoid android (fairly stable overall), FSC ROM (awesome customizations)
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LMFAO

C-rom note 3 gtn9005

I have installed C-Rom on my international galaxy note and I'm loving it.
But there is only one thing that I really need to have and I can't find on this rom. That is the screen mode on samsung devices. I want to set my screen mode to dynamic to show the colors more lively with more contrast.
After searchingon the internet I couldn't find an answer so I would be thankful if someone could help me on this.
Thanks,
Ali.

alirezait said:
I have installed C-Rom on my international galaxy note and I'm loving it.
But there is only one thing that I really need to have and I can't find on this rom. That is the screen mode on samsung devices. I want to set my screen mode to dynamic to show the colors more lively with more contrast.
After searchingon the internet I couldn't find an answer so I would be thankful if someone could help me on this.
Thanks,
Ali.
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If I remember correctly after flashing most AOSP ROMs, Carbon ROM and PAC should have this feature.

I have an idea to port Touchwiz to the XT103(1/2)

So the Samsung Galaxy Avant came out recently, and I noticed that it has the same processor and same graphics. Since those are the most important parts when you port a rom, I figured it would be the best choice to use when porting a Touchwiz rom to the Moto g. I gave it a try and it failed, but I'm not nearly as advanced in this as some of you guys. Just a small tip for those of you that actually want Touchwiz on here.

Does it have same size and resolution? That's the most important thing for porting manufacturer roms.

Comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5831&idPhone2=6542​

It doesn't have the same resolution unfortunately... They're both 4.5 inch screens but I think the avant is hdpi.

Why would you ever want Touchwiz? That thing is the slowest and sluggish piece of bloatware ever made.
You should ve thankful having stock Android in our Moto G.

True, it's not as fast. And yes I'm glad we have stock, but in my opinion, its too bare. Not mentioning the fact that its something new for the device. Everyone likes different things.

Maybe it isn't so good idea (for me)! If i want TouchWiz i'll buy a Samsung!

CarbonROM
If you don't like stock Android's bare feeling, use Carbon ROM! Lots of customisation options there, including one to have a quick-settings ribbon like TouchWiz. But honestly I had my buddy go for CM11 for his GS2 due to the fact that TouchWiz looked horrible (not it mention it was 4.1! )

Jhdoubleoseven said:
If you don't like stock Android's bare feeling, use Carbon ROM! Lots of customisation options there, including one to have a quick-settings ribbon like TouchWiz. But honestly I had my buddy go for CM11 for his GS2 due to the fact that TouchWiz looked horrible (not it mention it was 4.1! )
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Same here, I have an S3 mini with omnirom, I keep it just because I don't want to unlock the bootloader of the Moto G and it keeps my flash addiction in control...
Sent from my XT1039

davidnj11 said:
So the Samsung Galaxy Avant came out recently, and I noticed that it has the same processor and same graphics. Since those are the most important parts when you port a rom, I figured it would be the best choice to use when porting a Touchwiz rom to the Moto g. I gave it a try and it failed, but I'm not nearly as advanced in this as some of you guys. Just a small tip for those of you that actually want Touchwiz on here.
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I'll try.

h2o64 said:
I'll try.
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Good luck

Hey Guys,
Galaxy Grand 2 also has same processor and resolution. It could also be another alternative for porting touchiwz to moto g .Only Difference is camera and screen size.

manikbhola said:
Hey Guys,
Galaxy Grand 2 also has same processor and resolution. It could also be another alternative for porting touchiwz to moto g .Only Difference is camera and screen size.
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I'm uploading a dump from Galaxy Acent (msm8226)

for my opinion Touchwiz is ugly among all oem Rom I like LG framework.if Samsung use pure android ui then all samsung phone 30-40% more faster.

My dump
https://mega.co.nz/#!59ERyKpb!bjW4n3JIIzBgKwmmECpsPVHxCUW5JaTjVrnqjXKUpxk

You can use touchwiz themes also..

being_sahil said:
You can use touchwiz themes also..
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We are devs.
We don't want just themes.

h2o64 said:
We are devs.
We don't want just themes.
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No point of real touchwiz on moto g -_-

being_sahil said:
No point of real touchwiz on moto g -_-
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Fun? See how the performance are?

h2o64 said:
Fun? See how the performance are?
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My previous phone, galaxy grand was a Pretty bad performer.

[Q] G900f aosp with some TW features (possible)?

Hey guys..
I would like to ask you about an aosp rom with samsung futures.. cause i hate touchwiz.. the settings.. the statusbar and everything.. I have been searching for a long time but could not find anything about such roms.
So my question is: Is it possible to take a rom like CM 12 and add featuers like the power saving mode of TW or a fingerprintscanner support for that rom... Would be great to hear about a rom like that
Greetings.
Nessty
Sent from G900f with Xtrestolite 1.5

No. Closed source makes it difficult. Personally I find touchwiz sufficient and can't wait for lollipop.

But couldn't anyone take the priv apps and port then for cm and add a setting for the priv apps then or something ?
And lollipop will be great... but much will be white.. they take a amoled display and then they do everything in white ?! Thats dumb...

Nessty. said:
But couldn't anyone take the priv apps and port then for cm and add a setting for the priv apps then or something ?
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And the entire set of framework code that will go with it
There's a reason no one has done it in the years that aosp and touchwiz custom ROMs have been around
Mods generally are written from scratch in aosp ROMs

Nessty. said:
But couldn't anyone take the priv apps and port then for cm and add a setting for the priv apps then or something ?
And lollipop will be great... but much will be white.. they take a amoled display and then they do everything in white ?! Thats dumb...
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If it were that simple I would do it myself, your only hope is a google play edition but I reckon even if we get one it won't have a fingerprint sensor. And I don't really believe the whole black is better battery thing. I mean sure pixels off is but a lot of the time we actually get pixels showing a dark shade rather than off. You would have to spend a lot of time in settings or sms to care is what I'm saying. Plus if anything like my nexus 7 lollipop will improve battery and counteract this. But samsung may screw it up, pray that they don't cos kitkat got it right and made touchwiz an artistic and useful interface. White is used because its more pleasing to the eye than that bluey grey thing they got going on

Just sad... but thanks for your answers..
If there would only be a fingerprint scanner support i would even be happy.. but sad if its not poosible/too hard

Nessty. said:
Just sad... but thanks for your answers..
If there would only be a fingerprint scanner support i would even be happy.. but sad if its not poosible/too hard
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You could try Alliance ROM with AOSP theme

Infinity Wallpaper vs AOD

Hi,
Im currently using infinity wallpapers on my sm-g935f (Renovate Rom) and I haven't noticed that parts of wallpaper aren't moving on AOD. It sounds ridiculously since Samsung propably wouldn't make wallpapers which may harm the display. So i want to know is it just my paranoina or real trouble.