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My Evo battery is draining at a rate that is all together too fast. I took it off the charger about 3.5 hours ago and it has drained about 30-40%. I have not made a call nor used the net at all save for the receipt of 3-4 emails. I had a rooted phone but I reset the phone back to complete unrooted stock. I have not even so much as installed an app. What can I do about this?
turn off your mobile data when not in use. This will save tremendous amounts of battery.
if you search the forums you should find countless threads on battery and how to find out what is draining your battery and to extend life.
not sure why you would unroot unless you were exchanging it at sprint store but it greatly limits what you can do to help prevent battery drain. If you dont want to mess with much jsut use a rooted stock rom and it is pretty much the same thing as being unrooted but you keep the extra rooted benefits.
your best bet on non rooted device make sure mobile data, 4g, auto orientation, bluetooth etc are turned off. do the HTC battery condition/charge trick. and turn off background sync.
my suggestion is to re root and look into undervolted kernels and many other battery saving tricks found using search!
hopefully it helps some.
I had the same problem OP.
Turns out my radios weren't update.
Head over to the developer section and download the newest radios and stuff.
I've seen significant improvement of my battery life by using Collin_ph Battery Tweak 1 that was offered by Myn's when I flashed his/her's rom. I had my BF take his Evo to work after he come home complaining that the charge would only last about an hour or two and behold, he got through the whole day without having to charge his battery. This is after listening to music at work for 8 hours also. I HIGHLY recommend this tweak for ROOTED PHONES as I and everyone else I've recommended loves their Evo now and have no complaints...I'm at work right now and I'm at 79% and when I usually get home the battery is either still green (full) or orange (med) charge. I'm not sure if this tweak can be used with other mods but I'm very happy with this tweak as it has made my phone perfect now~~
Could be a Rogue app running killing your battery or radios not updated like stated above.
I recently started having the same issue. Advice such as turning of data and the GPS aren't helpful since the device functioned fine with GPS and data on before. Also if the battery was draining at a slower rate on the current radio before, you shouldn't need to update it, should you?
Seems that either something is making the Evo use more juice than it was before or that the battery is not holding the same capacity it used to. For some reason Phone Idle and Cell Standby have been using quite a bit more juice than they used to.
I don't like some of the software mentioned to try and locate anything that could be using more juice since those programs seem to use quite a bit themselves. Either way, what could be doing it that would come up as Phone Idle or Cell Standby in the included battery monitor? Wouldn't anything else come up under Android System?
The battery draining that quickly is not normal even with background sync, GPS (idle), 4g, data, or anything else on. There is another issue which must be solved. To troubleshoot so far I've tried another battery (same thing happens) and now I'm trying with everything turned off. If I can isolate what was causing my sudden rapid battery drain, I'll update everyone. This just started a couple nights ago for me. I think I'm on the latest radio, but I'll check.
Last post sums up my problem perfectly. I have an extended battery that lasts half the time it has over the last 4 months. Started with the radio updates. running myk
Use the battery usage functions of 'spareparts' to determine what's consuming cpu or preventing the phone from sleeping.
Can't fix the problem until you've isolated what's at fault.
Turning off mobile data will indeed fix a problem of some app trying to access the network, but it won't solve the actual cause.
bcarter2000 said:
turn off your mobile data when not in use. This will save tremendous amounts of battery.
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I think juice defender does this automatically when the screen is off.
In the case of my phone, and I believe the OP's, we don't have any rogue apps or things running in the background. I know this phone like the back of my hand. I have completely uninstalled unnecessary apps like facebook, twitter, all things like news and weather are on manual update, i don't keep 4g or gps on, and I use wifi at home. I turn off 3g in terrible reception areas. I'm not a new user who doesn't understand the basic ways to save a little battery. I'm pretty sure the OP isn't either by his post. I use my phone the same every day. My chinese extended battery would last me easily from morning to bedtime with 20 to 30 percent to spare. Now I can't get near that after the radio updates. Since it's been well known that something is weird with these current updates, I've downgraded to 1.77 to see if that helps. My phone was sleeping fine though, so I don't know how much it will help. Always some BS with this phone.
Log out of gtalk and latitude. Those two seem to kill battery.
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Log out of gtalk and latitude. Those two seem to kill battery.
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I appreciate it. I really do. But that is exactly the things I'm saying are already off. GTalk is turned off immediately on my phone from the jump and latitude has never been opened. It's got to be radios. I guess I'm not really asking a question, I'm just telling the OP he isn't alone.
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I appreciate it. I really do. But that is exactly the things I'm saying are already off. GTalk is turned off immediately on my phone from the jump and latitude has never been opened. It's got to be radios. I guess I'm not really asking a question, I'm just telling the OP he isn't alone.
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this is the thread with flashable .zips of alllll the radio updates ever out for the EVO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485&highlight=radio
if you are having trouble after a radio update, just try some of these other radios and see if that helps
Your best bet would be to root your phone again and give one of the SBC kernels a shot. I'm running CM 6.1.2 along with Zendroid 1.1.0 BFS AVS SBC and I can easily get 16+ hours with HEAVY use. And when I say heavy use, I mean hundreds of sms, dozens of calls and lots of websurfing. You will love the SBC kernels. Give it a try.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
We can offer suggestions until we're blue in the face.
First off, the OP needs to provide specifics of what's installed on the device, including rom, kernel, radio, etc, not to mention the hardware version itself.
Assuming it's not the known pri /rom conflict, then determination needs to be made as to what's actually consuming cpu - see first sentence above.
Need to use a systematic approach to troubleshoot this, otherwise it's a waste of time.
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My Evo battery is draining at a rate that is all together too fast. I took it off the charger about 3.5 hours ago and it has drained about 30-40%. I have not made a call nor used the net at all save for the receipt of 3-4 emails. I had a rooted phone but I reset the phone back to complete unrooted stock. I have not even so much as installed an app. What can I do about this?
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That sounds like a very weak cellular signal is forcing the radio to keep searching for it, draining the battery very quickly.
One way to somewhat alleviate this problem is to force roaming, to connect to a provider with a better signal.
"Roam Control" app does this (Market).
gpz1100 said:
We can offer suggestions until we're blue in the face.
First off, the OP needs to provide specifics of what's installed on the device, including rom, kernel, radio, etc, not to mention the hardware version itself.
Assuming it's not the known pri /rom conflict, then determination needs to be made as to what's actually consuming cpu - see first sentence above.
Need to use a systematic approach to troubleshoot this, otherwise it's a waste of time.
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Dude....This is the best post in this thread...
Sometimes I wonder how far android users went in school....is scientific method lost these days? By no means am I qualified to help here..so my flamesuit is on for the post but damn.."my ****z broke...halp" won't cut it in a developer forum...
"it works on my machine"....words to die by.
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....is scientific method lost these days?
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What's that??????
d3x502 said:
Dude....This is the best post in this thread...
Sometimes I wonder how far android users went in school....is scientific method lost these days? By no means am I qualified to help here..so my flamesuit is on for the post but damn.."my ****z broke...halp" won't cut it in a developer forum...
"it works on my machine"....words to die by.
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Actually,
some android users looked at the posting date, saw that the op hasn't updated in over 24 hours, wanted to complain about it, decided against it, posted quickly the most useful idea they had.
All that while doing real science.
In the past few days out of nowhere I've noticed a massive amount of battery life attributed to Google Services. I checked on better battery stats and the wakelocks are coming from process: NLPWakeLock.
I've searched on the net and several forums, and I'm getting very mixed info. The majority of the info points to Google Now as being the culprit, and that it's somehow related to 4.3. I actually really like Google Now and would hate to disable it. It's odd because I've had the phone a few weeks and Google Now was always enabled, but only now these wakelocks are starting to show up.
Does anyone have any further info on this? Could it be something else? I've already frozen so many things in TiBu I'm losing track!
TIA!
I'd like to just confirm in case anyone else was having this issue - it was in fact Google now.
siciliano777 said:
I'd like to just confirm in case anyone else was having this issue - it was in fact Google now.
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So did you just freeze Now? I'm having the exact same issue -- was working fine until just recently (I think 3 days or so ago) when I started getting many wakelocks from NLPCollectorWakeLock and NLPWakeLock. I also like using Now and don't want to disable it if I can avoid it. I did find a thread in the G2 forums with a possible solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453850
Basically, he deleted GooglePlayServices using Titanium, then reinstalled directly from the market and found that fixed his issue. So I just deleted it (phone auto rebooted after doing so), then got a notification saying Maps request an update of Play Services which I got from the market. Rebooting now, will keep an eye on the wakelocks and let you know how it goes.
I didn't freeze it, I just turned it off within Google now settings. I'd like to keep it on too, but it def helped battery life.
Let me know if that method you used works.
Thanks!
Hey guys, I have tryed to find same issue, but i dont seem to find anything that is exactly the same on this forum, yet i see it everywhere on the web/google.
I have a problem with my new 2weeks old note 3! It have problems maintaining a prober battery drain and its really pissing me off. I have to restart my phone everyday, its like its slowly building up overtime or overnight... mby even after i recharge it?
I wanted to post some links to my dropbox with screenshots of betterbatterystats and gsam battery, but cant right now because im new, so first up ill see if anyone have any idea without further explanation!
Im rdy to do allmost anything, but i have no idea how kernel and stuff like that can be fixed... :S
Heres some of the pictures from working and not working!
When working:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vtvrrde5fp1d0fn/5C5mnacZvm
When being a ****ing pain in the ass- After first 2 hours:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lqqcnr8ypy7fvjn/iVfE9n0bP_
2hours later on same charge:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3cpaq079rhsn1ng/FuB8_HFr4Z
Pay attention to the deep sleep, no increase in 2hours...
I really like touchwiz, but I HATE that I am forced to have bad battery because of some retarded fault in kernel!!!
zipn said:
Hey guys, I have tryed to find same issue, but i dont seem to find anything that is exactly the same on this forum, yet i see it everywhere on the web/google.
I have a problem with my new 2weeks old note 3! It have problems maintaining a prober battery drain and its really pissing me off. I have to restart my phone everyday, its like its slowly building up overtime or overnight... mby even after i recharge it?
I wanted to post some links to my dropbox with screenshots of betterbatterystats and gsam battery, but cant right now because im new, so first up ill see if anyone have any idea without further explanation!
Im rdy to do allmost anything, but i have no idea how kernel and stuff like that can be fixed... :S
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Try Wakelock detector from Google play
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Try Wakelock detector from Google play
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Wow that looks much better than betterbatterystats, atleast easyer to understand! seems its samsung push and exchange mail that is the top users.. Could they both go under the category as a android kernel?
if you don't use exchange corporate mail you can freeze both apks. I use touchdown app for my corporate email, so those apps are also freezed.
I use the build in calendar, and its synced with my work calendar, so i use "Microsoft exchange activesync" to keep it updated. Could that really be the killer? according to gsam battery monitor my exchange "mail" is only 0.6% battery use while Kernel (Android OS) is 28.2% then its Android-System and then rest is below 2%..
Gonna share some screenshots when its gonna be available for me! This is really annoying me, knowing the phone can easly function and have battery for 2days+ the way i use it!
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It have problems maintaining a prober battery drain and its really pissing me off. I have to restart my phone everyday, its like its slowly building up overtime or overnight... mby even after i recharge it?
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When I have a battery drain the first thing I do is give the phone a soft reset. Switch your phone off, take the battery out for a minute, reinsert the battery, do a cache wipe (start up in recovery mode by press and hold VolumeUp-, Home- and On/Off-buttons at the same time, and choose "Wipe cache partition"), then reboot.
Usually that solves the problem. If not, then I will start investigating what is causing wake locks etc.
If everything fails, than I do a factory reset.
To my feeling, people in general tend to do the investigation too soon, leading to nothing and forget to do the soft reset first (which doesn't delete any settings, apps or data, so there's no reason not to try it).
I had an unexplainable battery drain two weeks ago, solved by a soft reset as described, perfect battery since.
In location services (in Google Maps) I've switched off Location History and Location Reporting, which are known battery drainers, but that's pretty much all I do to prevent battery drain. I did notice that Nova launcher takes more battery than the stock launcher, but not enough to skip using it (at least not for that reason).
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When I have a battery drain the first thing I do is give the phone a soft reset. Switch your phone off, take the battery out for a minute, reinsert the battery, do a cache wipe (start up in recovery mode by press and hold VolumeUp-, Home- and On/Off-buttons at the same time, and choose "Wipe cache partition"), then reboot.
Usually that solves the problem. If not, then I will start investigating what is causing wake locks etc.
If everything fails, than I do a factory reset.
To my feeling, people in general tend to do the investigation too soon, leading to nothing and forget to do the soft reset first (which doesn't delete any settings, apps or data, so there's no reason not to try it).
I had an unexplainable battery drain two weeks ago, solved by a soft reset as described, perfect battery since.
In location services (in Google Maps) I've switched off Location History and Location Reporting, which are known battery drainers, but that's pretty much all I do to prevent battery drain. I did notice that Nova launcher takes more battery than the stock launcher, but not enough to skip using it (at least not for that reason).
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Even though it don't delete any settings etc. it still helps for some time. but my mobile is as close to stock as it can be, I hardly use anything that could cause this, except if its from android itself/samsung installations. Which it seems to be!
How often do you have to do such a painful reset? in my eyes, thats something you have to do, if its Broken!
Starting to belive its exchange, mail_service.
That specific one have 92x wakes in 2hours and all most 2mins used. I Think thats what keeps my phone from having deep sleep going. but its weird cause I only have it syncing calendar, which also show as a specific thing under the "mail_service" and it have like x2 wakes and less than 2sec used...
Apparently this bug is not new! Come on google!
I have read some people having kernel problems. .. and they have fixed it with changing kernel..
Do anyone know a good kernel for note3 ?
Speeking of the devil: today my Note3 wouldn't go into deep sleep again. Solved it by again by a soft reset, but start to wonder what triggers it. In my case I suspect the Tomtom app that I used yesterday, which gives me other problems as well every now and then (e.g. when the phone goes into stand by while Tomtom is running in the background).
I guess doing a soft reset on a regular basis is something I should do to keep my phone happy. In that, smart phones are not that different from PC's, which tend to show instability after a while as well if you don't restart them regularly.
But I do agree: in a perfect world it should not be necessary.
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Heres some of the pictures from working and not working!
When working:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vtvrrde5fp1d0fn/5C5mnacZvm
When being a ****ing pain in the ass- After first 2 hours:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lqqcnr8ypy7fvjn/iVfE9n0bP_
2hours later on same charge:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3cpaq079rhsn1ng/FuB8_HFr4Z
Pay attention to the deep sleep, no increase in 2hours...
I really like touchwiz, but I HATE that I am forced to have bad battery because of some retarded fault in kernel!!!
Just to make a thing clear though, I am not looking for battery saving tips etc. that would ruin the point of having a smartphone, its all those cool features that makes it worth buying. But knowing it can work WITH all these features and Not drain the battery, makes me crazy mad(I am at the point of returning it as being "defect")! It just destroys my experience of having it when I know something is not right. And it wasnt exactly cheap..
Anyone know anything about this?? Do the Screenshots help anyone? I am so close to the decission of rooting and then change kernel and rom this weekend if I dont find out why my phone is using this amount of power, When I know it dont have to!!
I've the same issue too on my completely stock set! Can't figure out what exactly is the culprit though ...
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Speeking of the devil: todsuper attention to What I install So i know When it .ay my Note3 wouldn't go into deep sleep again. Solved it by again by a soft reset, but start to wonder what triggers it. In my case I suspect the Tomtom app that I used yesterday, which gives me other problems as well every now and then (e.g. when the phone goes into stand by while Tomtom is running in the background).
I guess doing a soft reset on a regular basis is something I should do to keep my phone happy. In that, smart phones are not that different from PC's, which tend to show instability after a while as well if you don't restart them regularly.
But I do agree: in a perfect world it should not be necessary.
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I just got totally fed up with it, so i did a factory reset and done minimal account bindings. So far it's working! So now I will just pay super attention to What I install. So i know When it goes wrong!
having similar issues recently..
and I can't detect what's wrong with BBS either :/
I am also having the same issue with my Note 3. Always the same thing. Works OK for some time after a soft reset and then starts not deep sleeping properly. When viewing at Battery usage it usually shoes "Media" or "Android OS" or "IndexerServices" as the number one.
I am happy with my Note 3 but it is really annoying knowing that your battery is being wasted without real usage.
Have someone contacted samsung or google about this?
Nice knowing I'm not the only the one with this Android OS causing battery drain when phone is idling.
Not nice knowing there isn't a solution yet.
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Nice knowing I'm not the only the one with this Android OS causing battery drain when phone is idling.
Not nice knowing there isn't a solution yet.
Lets keep this going, I am going to contact google about this when i figure out what it is, for now im just being super observing! I did a factory+cache reset this friday and now sunday evening its still working(didnt even charge it all weekend!!!)(https://www.dropbox.com/s/khjosuw9t207paf/Screenshot_2013-12-01-19-35-23.png) I havnt synced it with much yet, but I have a little bee buzzing in my ear, telling me that its very likely something with the samsung_push service/email. So atm I have NOT added any email to the phone. Going to charge it up over night, use it normally all day tomorrow AND- if it still works, ill then at evening add my work email and then do this kinda step by step and check when it ****s up. Cause who am I kidding, if I just contact google/samsung now, they wouldnt care ****.
any updates on this mystery?
I'm starting to think the goodness of the Note 3 battery is becoming a joke. What I did was clear my cache partition and did a factory reset after from the recovery menu. I have not installed any other apps yet. I just set up dropbox, play books, email, etc. Normal things for normal use.
I did a reset because my battery was draining before and I thought a reset could resolve it. I need to ask for solutions as this is really giving me a headache.
Don't ask if I have turned off this or that, most probably I did as I read from multiple threads. Those threads are only guessing or otherwise throwing the OP in a loop for the search of answers.
Xda, I need your help to figure out how to SOLVE this stupid drain.
Note on the screenshot: I took that screen after 30 mins after plugging it out. It drained 2% while I was doing absolutely nothing but stare at the Android System bar graph go higher. Its like a plague for the damn phone.
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I installed BBS and here are screenshots of the partial and kernel wakelock. Is this normal though? This happened while I was sleeping overnight and I have not installed any apps other than BBS. This is how my stats were before and my battery is draining fast especially when I'm using my phone.
Thing is, I have set all measures possible to extend battery life non rooted and it goes down by the minute of light use.
Pokkle said:
I'm starting to think the goodness of the Note 3 battery is becoming a joke. What I did was clear my cache partition and did a factory reset after from the recovery menu. I have not installed any other apps yet. I just set up dropbox, play books, email, etc. Normal things for normal use.
I did a reset because my battery was draining before and I thought a reset could resolve it. I need to ask for solutions as this is really giving me a headache.
Don't ask if I have turned off this or that, most probably I did as I read from multiple threads. Those threads are only guessing or otherwise throwing the OP in a loop for the search of answers.
Xda, I need your help to figure out how to SOLVE this stupid drain.
Note on the screenshot: I took that screen after 30 mins after plugging it out. It drained 2% while I was doing absolutely nothing but stare at the Android System bar graph go higher. Its like a plague for the damn phone.
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at least should mentioned ur model n900 or n9005!?
anyway i did this for my N900 after i got battery draining once and it solve problem;
when it discharge to ~15% turn it off and connect it to charger and let it charging 100%
it can help battery to charge without using it at same time
i mentioned it before several times (in another threads) it s like re-gauging battery.
another thing u can do is flashing another stock firmware
but search for the more stable firmware.
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Sorry! I have the SM-N9005. Bought from the Philippines (Smart carrier)
Pokkle said:
I'm starting to think the goodness of the Note 3 battery is becoming a joke. What I did was clear my cache partition and did a factory reset after from the recovery menu. I have not installed any other apps yet. I just set up dropbox, play books, email, etc. Normal things for normal use.
I did a reset because my battery was draining before and I thought a reset could resolve it. I need to ask for solutions as this is really giving me a headache.
Don't ask if I have turned off this or that, most probably I did as I read from multiple threads. Those threads are only guessing or otherwise throwing the OP in a loop for the search of answers.
Xda, I need your help to figure out how to SOLVE this stupid drain.
Note on the screenshot: I took that screen after 30 mins after plugging it out. It drained 2% while I was doing absolutely nothing but stare at the Android System bar graph go higher. Its like a plague for the damn phone.
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The joys of Android!
Wakelock detector and BetterBatteryStats are your best friend in regards to stuff like that. - Usually it's Alarmmanager or something similar that causes it. What generally fixed it for me was switching ROMS
radicalisto said:
The joys of Android!
Wakelock detector and BetterBatteryStats are your best friend in regards to stuff like that. - Usually it's Alarmmanager or something similar that causes it. What generally fixed it for me was switching ROMS
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The joys Android bring me alright...
I downloaded bbs and will check after I wake up!
*rooting, switching roms and other watchamacallit are out of my comfort zone atm. I am trying to read about them alright but idk, I just don't get it lol. The Note 3 is my first Android/smartphone coming from the olden mobile phone days.
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Sorry! I have the SM-N9005. Bought from the Philippines (Smart carrier)
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Do you also have a microSD or a large amount of custom files in your (internal or external) memory? Since when you do factory-reset you also clear all the preliminary indexes and caches that the system created, and it will work pretty hard to re-index all that after first reboot!
Ahh wise not messing if out of your comfort zone then, sensible guy.
However, have a good read around, you'll find after some heavy duty reading you'll probably feel alright in maybe trying rooting and debloating some apps etc. But then again, you might not. That is one of the best things about Android, you can play around to suit your needs whether novice or pro.
Also, if you do fancy rooting and need help you can post here, or you can just shoot me a PM I'll help you over the first hurdle at least if you want :good:
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Do you also have a microSD or a large amount of custom files in your (internal or external) memory? Since when you do factory-reset you also clear all the preliminary indexes and caches that the system created, and it will work pretty hard to re-index all that after first reboot!
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No, I don't have an SD card inserted. This is my second reboot since trying to solve the problem.
Hi everyone. So I've scoured the web high and low for some help on this topic, and so far I've gotten some scattered information, but not a lot of concrete solutions.
I'm having bad idle battery drain problems on my un-rooted, stock Verizon N9000V (MJE). Using BetterBatteryStats I've singled out bam_dmux_wakelock as the culprit. From what I've been able to find online, I guess this is a kernel level wakelock caused by something accessing cellular (not-wifi) data when the phone is asleep. I've pulled my hair out individually un-installing apps one at a time to see if I can pinpoint the culprit. I've also factory reset the phone and started from scratch, adding my apps one at a time, but due to the intermittent nature of this wakelock (it is not always present) I've had a whole bunch of false positives, thinking I'm safe only to have it pop up again the next day.
At it's worst, this wakelock is keeping my phone out of deep sleep around 50-75% of total battery time.
I do know that a thread exists on this topic over on the GSIII board, and I'm not trying to duplicate threads. I'm really just wondering whether any Note 3 users have experienced this patricular wakelock, and maybe what you've done to combat it on this particular phone. I've already tried some of the things others have suggested from other phones (disable Google+, disable Hangouts etc.) I'm really at my wit's end.
Thanks for your time and I appreciate any input.
This is also what is causing my rooted Note 3 to not go to deep sleep.
From previous xda threads, it looks like it is also present on the S3, maybe other phones too.
example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811365
Maybe the solution is to just turn off Mobile Data when you are not using internet.